Can anyone think of good arguments I can convey to her to get her to go WP7? She likes the GUI, but hates that it doesn't have a front facing camera (we are AT&T). It's almost a deal breaker.
Does WP7 update via the manufacturer/carrier or via microsoft like the iPhone. (Samsung sucks at getting out Android update, so if it's the first I WILL NOT buy the Samsung, but if it it's the like latter I will).
But other than that, any ideas.... like facebook integration, ease of sync'ing music, controlling xbox music if possible, good applications, etc. Thanks!
Well if she wants to use the front facing camera for Skype (the only good reason to have one right now) then it will be tough to argue with her. But if she's only planning to use FaceTime you can convince her that not everyone has an iPhone 4 and not everyone uses it as much as she may think.
Based on the information that has been released, Windows Phone 7's updates are tested by the carriers but the actual update is sent out by Microsoft through the Zune desktop software. Updates will take longer than the iPhone in most cases because MS has to make sure the update works with every single phone available before sending it out. But it should still be faster and easier than Android's poorly handled OTA updates.
If she's a big Facebook user, it integrates extremely well with the People Hub and the Pictures Hub but the integration is not deep enough to make up for a full featured app. However the way WP7 handles Facebook is still much much better than most Android phones and the iPhone doesn't even have any unless you get the app. Besides that you can argue that WP7 looks better than the iPhone's software, it is just as fast and responsive, and has a lot of big name apps and games that the iPhone also has.
Good luck!
To be honest.... she be happier with an iPhone. I love wp7, but iPhone is better for casual users.
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Man - tell her the front facing camera will come with an update later this year
pittphan said:
To be honest.... she be happier with an iPhone. I love wp7, but iPhone is better for casual users.
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my girlfriend is debating between a focus and iphone 4... I love my focus (coming from a 3gs) but told her to get the iphone... WP7 just isn't ready enough yet for people like her. She's still under contract with t-mobile for another 2 months and then will switch to AT&T either way. I'm hoping by then I'll be able to recommend WP7 instead, but she has no tolerance for bugginess... it will be her first smartphone, so it'll have to be an easy transition, and right now that means iOS. It's a shame too because I think iOS is getting worse with each update... I use to jailbreak my phone mostly for multitasking... now it's jailbroken to keep things (mostly safari) from multitasking apple's way because it's awful (maybe it's better with an iphone 4?) anyway... hopefully this upcoming update will make me change my mind. It doesn't even really have to do anything more for her, just has to do what it currently does better.
I agree. Let her get the iPhone 4, she wouldn't really be happy with WP7 as of right now. It still needs a lot of work to catch up. Restricting her at this point isn't really fair.
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Man - tell her the front facing camera will come with an update later this year
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Legend.
That's what I would say too.
erickit said:
Can anyone think of good arguments I can convey to her to get her to go WP7? She likes the GUI, but hates that it doesn't have a front facing camera (we are AT&T). It's almost a deal breaker.
Does WP7 update via the manufacturer/carrier or via microsoft like the iPhone. (Samsung sucks at getting out Android update, so if it's the first I WILL NOT buy the Samsung, but if it it's the like latter I will).
But other than that, any ideas.... like facebook integration, ease of sync'ing music, controlling xbox music if possible, good applications, etc. Thanks!
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Don't let her know there is no music shuffle setting in the Zune player. I discovered this just this evening when I tried to shuffle the songs in a playlist. The songs were playing linearly and I wanted them to shuffle so I tried to find a shuffle setting. There is none. The only place songs will shuffle is all of them in the main "Shuffle all" songs category.
Not only is there no shuffle setting, but there are no settings period...save for the slider for connecting with Zune.
Let her het the iPhone, WP7 isn't mature enough for most people, she will hate it and hate you too.
Plus it's her phone for her to use, why do you care if she uses an iPhone? Do you have share at Microsoft? If you wanted a PS3 and she was trying to make you buy a Wii you wouldn't have it I'm sure.
She is a woman take her iPhone so she can also show it to her friends and tell how much it is nice
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She is a woman take her iPhone so she can also show it to her friends and tell how much it is nice
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This, a phone is a fashion accessory and nothing more, iphones are the expensive cool thing. unless she is tech savvy and demands more from a phone but its unlikely.
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Don't let her know there is no music shuffle setting in the Zune player. I discovered this just this evening when I tried to shuffle the songs in a playlist. The songs were playing linearly and I wanted them to shuffle so I tried to find a shuffle setting. There is none. The only place songs will shuffle is all of them in the main "Shuffle all" songs category.
Not only is there no shuffle setting, but there are no settings period...save for the slider for connecting with Zune.
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Don't spread lies just because you dontknow how to do something. Wp7 certainly does have shuffle and repeat. Just click on the cover art when playing a playlist and 3 options come up: repeat, like and shuffle.
MartyLK said:
Don't let her know there is no music shuffle setting in the Zune player. I discovered this just this evening when I tried to shuffle the songs in a playlist. The songs were playing linearly and I wanted them to shuffle so I tried to find a shuffle setting. There is none. The only place songs will shuffle is all of them in the main "Shuffle all" songs category.
Not only is there no shuffle setting, but there are no settings period...save for the slider for connecting with Zune.
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Press the album art of the current song you are playing and repeat, shuffle and favourite buttons appear.
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Don't spread lies just because you dontknow how to do something. Wp7 certainly does have shuffle and repeat. Just click on the cover art when playing a playlist and 3 options come up: repeat, like and shuffle.
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For someone to be lying, they would have to be intentional. I was not intentional. The setting is vague to the point of only discovering it by accident. I have other Zunes that the setting is clear to get at. Never had to press the AA in any of them. You need to stop calling people liars when they aren't. You are a false witness.
Oh dear more MartyLK FUD
Music: Tap the album image, and then tap Shuffle to play the items in the current playlist in random order.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/music/play-music-videos-and-podcasts.aspx
+1 on iphone
you will regret it if you push for a wp7 device when all her friends are facetiming each other and she's just got .... mmm... nothing.
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This, iphone is a fashion accessory and nothing more, iphones are the expensive cool thing. unless she is tech savvy and demands more from a phone but its unlikely.
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It could be argued that the iphone is currently better suited to the tech savvy than wm7.
Until Microsoft fix/improve the legion of bugs/omissions then WP7 is an expensive uncool thing.
I don't expect this to be the case forever but that is the sad truth in the meantime.
So for now tell her to the iphone- at least she can't blame you if she doesn't like it
ps before I get flamed- I hate apple but the iphone is a more polished/rounded product- you can change ring tones, retain camera settings, tether, etc, etc. I do expect that WP7 will have advanced features one day but I don't know if or when that will be- nor does anyone else here. The pessimist in me suspects that WP8 will be what we had hoped WP7 would be...
Give her an iPhone... when WP7 matures a bit more, and has a few more applications on the market, with perhaps some newer models, she's ready for one.
Till then... iPhone with a nice pink case
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lol I love seeing BS spouting tools like this dolt get pwnd. You get a thanks =D
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It could be argued that the iphone is currently better suited to the tech savvy than wm7.
Until Microsoft fix/improve the legion of bugs/omissions then WP7 is an expensive uncool thing.
I don't expect this to be the case forever but that is the sad truth in the meantime.
So for now tell her to the iphone- at least she can't blame you if she doesn't like it
ps before I get flamed- I hate apple but the iphone is a more polished/rounded product- you can change ring tones, retain camera settings, tether, etc, etc. I do expect that WP7 will have advanced features one day but I don't know if or when that will be- nor does anyone else here. The pessimist in me suspects that WP8 will be what we had hoped WP7 would be...
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legion of bugs? I'd love to see that list...
where are you getting your information from? You CAN use custom ringtones on WP7, you CAN retain camera settings, you CAN tether. We also have file explorers and a registry editor. Does iOS?
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iphone designed websites
are super when your stuck in a edge area i cant lie
facebook actually works, found a movie listings, tv listings from aol that are very simple. gotta love it
but of course when data permits, nothing beats the REAL internet
Well at least you found one good thing.
The one good thing about iphone is how much it made me miss windows mobile.
The iPhone is actually a great phone for if you wanna get away from it all; and by "it all" i mean doing anything productive or worthwhile.
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The iPhone is actually a great phone for if you wanna get away from it all; and by "it all" i mean doing anything productive or worthwhile.
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Oh c'mon, paying a dollar for the "Be like Lil' Wayne" app in the app store is totally worthwhile.
How about the fact that if it was not for the iphone and Apples inovative thinking most of the apps and phones we now have based on WM6 would not be available to us yet.
Touch scrolling, accelerometers, larger screens, better browsers, etc.
I never would buy an iphone do to the fact that I cound not add my GPS software or my task managers and customize it the way I like it, but if it wasn't for the great thought process it invoked for so many programmers we would still be stuck with using the stylus.
The only good thing about the iphone is that it made my AT&T ESOP get bigger. THATS IT.
the only reason why the iphone is good is because qualcomm devices make it look good.
One "redeeming" feature is the app store. Even with that feature there are so many useless apps and the Apple store policy keeps any useful apps from being developed.
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How about the fact that if it was not for the iphone and Apples inovative thinking most of the apps and phones we now have based on WM6 would not be available to us yet.
Touch scrolling, accelerometers, larger screens, better browsers, etc.
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I hope you are being sarcastic?
I believe HTC were the first company to release Touch Nav, Large screens have been around for awhile and Opera has been a fine browser for phone for awhile as well...
All apple has done is released another consumer toy to play with... Windows Mobile/ Windows CE has been around a hell of a lot longer. They have copied the idea of "custom" application, MS and Palm have had custom apps for yeaaaaaaars.
Next you are going to tell me apple invented the mp3!
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The iPhone is actually a great phone for if you wanna get away from it all; and by "it all" i mean doing anything productive or worthwhile.
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Good lord, what is this, disinformation central? I've been FAR more productive while mobile in the last 2 weeks since I traded my Fuze in for an iPhone than I ever would have been on the Fuze. As someone who does a lot of web work, the iPhone blows the Fuze or any other WM phone out of the water. The free WordPress app *alone* guarantees that anyone doing mobile blogging will be more productive.
As a 3 year veteran of the great HTC Wizard, I'm a serious lover of Windows Mobile devices, but let's face facts here guys: In 2008, let alone 2009, the current incarnation of Windows Mobile is sadly, woefully and pathetically behind the times. iPhone is, to be sure, a VASTLY overrated device, but statements like this are just as misleading, but in reverse.
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I hope you are being sarcastic?
I believe HTC were the first company to release Touch Nav, Large screens have been around for awhile and Opera has been a fine browser for phone for awhile as well...
All apple has done is released another consumer toy to play with... Windows Mobile/ Windows CE has been around a hell of a lot longer. They have copied the idea of "custom" application, MS and Palm have had custom apps for yeaaaaaaars.
Next you are going to tell me apple invented the mp3!
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WM has certainly been around longer--and it's also been neglected longer, too. The App store is a brilliant innovation, and it's loaded with tons of useful apps (though I'd be lying if I didn't also say that it's loaded with gimmicky horse ****, too). WM truly NEEDS something like the App store, by which I mean that it needs a method for distributing apps and games via download, through the device itself, with a transparent installation process that is easy for users to understand and use.
What Apple really needs to do to take the device to the next step is adopt some WM ideas--specifically it needs to be able to do multitasking (beyond just playing music in the background with the iPod app), it needs cut and paste, and it desperately needs for ALL apps to support a landscape keyboard (Windows Mobile also suffers from this problem). Apple also needs to open the device a bit more for a greater range of app types from a greater range of programmers.
Windows Mobile is good and proven system. iPhone is a relatively new system but it's also very good and it brings a LOT of great ideas to the table.
Neither system is perfect, but where iPhone needs some polish and additional openness, Windows Mobile needs a major overhaul in the User Experience area, because right now it's idly back in about 2004, and that's just sad. Hopefully Microsoft's recent work overhauling the Xbox interface will have some runoff into the Windows Mobile arena.
I look forward to WM7, but for my money, WM6 is a waste of time on a modern device.
After looking at the presentation of IPhone 3G v3.0 and already have read the articles about the WM v6.5 and v7.0, a huge disappointment came over me.
You see I am a top shouter in my environment for the HTC phones which are all equipped with the WM OS's.
The greatest impression on me where some articles about guys(who seemed in my eyes a real priority on this, i am dutch so not quickly impressed by anything), who wrote all similar story's about the WM v6.5/7.0. Stating Microsoft is not at all doing anything to compete with the Google and APPLE OS's. There are just very few improvements and absolutely not at all impressive enough as the IPhone OS.
Reading some article they are looking for a lead developer for the new core for WM v7.0 are not honored and contradicting, like saying oke guys i know the current OS is ****ty so we need to start over, can anyone help us?
That is not the sort of message I as WM lover like to hear.
It seems that Apple is just about the only one who is really listening to the users and they are working their ass off getting all requested functionality integrated. APPLE have done more on the OS in 1 year then Microsoft did on all development of the WM versions.
I am working at an IT company where the IPhone is making a serious entry and I am working at support and people asking me for information getting the IPhone working with the company applications. and guess what, it is sooooooo much easier getting it setup then every other WM-device i have seen. And they seem to shrink in number at the company.
Now I am really in love with the HTC-devices, but i am slowly getting confused by the latest IPHONE OS.
I expect that Microsoft will loose this battle due to their arrogance and dragging all major mobile company's down with it. So expect another crisis in a year or 3 because now the smart phones are booming but people will come to their senses and they switch to IPhone after their subscriber to the providers has ended.
So please bring me to my senses and say I am totally wrong!!
yes and no
the problem is migrators. people whove had there nokias and stuff then want a better device. theyll run to iphone dueto the flashy marketing and support
bu winmo is more like an old pair of sneakers. sure theyre ugly aan dirty
but they do the job they were built to do. in my opinion as long as they do there job making it work i can do my job making it look pretty. coz id rather get ther in my old confy sneakers to get there than getting blisters from a new pair
i dont think any die hard winmo fan will move not really because at the end of the day we always go back to those old trainers
ive got a headache now
stop making me use my brain
i went from iphone to iphone 3g to windows mobile
i prefer my diamond to be honest even thou iphone can do alot more in ways the diamond does more in other ways
hands down id rather go with diamond or pro
@jayjay8585
Thanks for your response.
I hope you are familiar with ice skating?
They where skating years and years on the normal skates and the fastest times stayed longer and longer on the list.
Then someone decided to change the skate(klikskate, the iron comes half lose when lifting the skate) so significantly everybody said out loud that will not work, so they tried it a bit but went back to their old skates(sneakers).
Until someone who always was just under the top 10 decided, oke I reeeeeeealy going to try this and trained for 2 years on it.
So the next major tournament this person broke all long standing records.
Now everybody is using the new ice skates and up until now, records keep broken almost every new major tournament.
Shortly: I half agree with the sneaker story but it will not hold on the long term.
Microsoft just messed up to big, so if Bill wants to see another billion or 2 added on the Forbes list he has to get serious on this.
Windows Mobile 7 is not even beta yet so how can you be making comparisons with that OS? And while apple has added features to bring it on par with modern smartphones I personally am too used to the freedom of using a device of my own choosing with whatever carrier I choose and not being tied to using apple software and hardware products.
Here is what I have to say about the iPhone. The iPhone............
iPhone = Flashy Fashiontoy laden with DRM Crap no one here wants. Period.
Yup!
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iPhone = Flashy Fashiontoy laden with DRM Crap no one here wants. Period.
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Quoted for the Mo-Fo'm truth!
How about the g1? It listens to its users the users and devs nake this phone better everydaay. I have had my for just over a week and don't know how I livd without it. I love how it works It can do all the iphone can and more. My main thing is it needs flash player other than that. also anyone seen or have any ideas on the new plam?
I personally wouldn't touch the G1 even if my life depended on it... Someone has to remove all the frickin' Google Crap from the OS (mandatory googlemail acc, anyone ?) before I'd be willing to shell out a few hundred bucks for one of these.
I'm not willing to let Google put a leash up my ass...
To the above guy. Besides making a mail account that's ur only leash. That beats being to to steve and bill in my opion. U can change the browser and well just about every u can get a lot of apps on line. U don't have to use the market that came on the phone everything is open.
the G1 I tested required a Googlemail Account.
Granted, I already have one and only Spam gets redirected there, but I don't want Google to know who i have as Contacts on my Sim and my Appointments no one has to read either.
Google on G1 = No Phone for me
Well whre are getting that they do that? And if they do why dosent everyone else? I figuer all cell phone data is almost public anyways
just wanted to add my 2 pence worth.
I've only had 2 WM devices so far, the XDA Exec and now the Touch Dual.
As much as I've enjoyed playing with these, I'm starting to really like the look of the iPhone. Everyone I speak to that has one say they love it because it does what is says on the lid. It works.
I'm fed up with having to reset my phone when it crashes on an incoming call, or re-syncing it to my BT car Hands free set...............
I've had to work hard and rely on the good devs here (thanks folks)to be able to get to a point where my phone is just about stable.
The iPhone is starting to look like a possability when my contract is up in six months
WM 6.5 will make it better as well as ROM Cookers. I have the Iphone 3G - in the box. Yes its flashy and its more fluid I like the control I have over my Touch HD. I like being able to flash it and try it out. I like the fact that I can change the BATTERY out on it. I like the ability to sync with Outlook, I like the fact that there are many many apps for the WM 6.1 and 6.5(when it becomes available).
And I like my screen resolution and Garmin XT NAV
Oh yeah.. Did I mention that I hate ITUNES and DRM?
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the G1 I tested required a Googlemail Account.
Granted, I already have one and only Spam gets redirected there, but I don't want Google to know who i have as Contacts on my Sim and my Appointments no one has to read either.
Google on G1 = No Phone for me
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you do realize that you can turn off syncing, which means that you wont send any data to the google acct. so none of your contacts/appointments will leave your phone, and gmail wont sync. if you root your G1 you dont even have to use a google acct.
This is an article from BRIGHTHAND:
Cut, Copy, and Paste
Confirming the earlier rumors, iPhone 3.0 will -- finally -- allow iPhone users to cut-and-paste and copy-and-paste. Naturally, the process for selecting text will take advantage of this device's multi-touch screen. This feature will be available in Apple's own software and third-party apps.
And it extends to more than just text. Users will be able to copy images and paste them into an email.
MMS, A2DP, Etc.
iPhone 3.0 will also mark the arrival of other features long available in the iPhone's competitors, including MMS messaging, Stereo Bluetooth, device search, and voice memos.
In addition, landscape support is being added to more of the bundled applications.
Apple is also going to release a new SDK (software developer kit) for handling streaming audio and video, including HDTV streaming.
Still No Multitasking
Apple had some good news and bad news for users. The bad news is that it's still not allowing multitasking because running third-party applications in the background is more than the device can handle. Scott Forstall, Apple SVP iPhone Software, who handled much of today's presentation, said that an IM application running in the background reduced the iPhone's standby battery time by 80%.
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I don't think the iPhone is able to beat anybody yet, as you can see, the above upgrade or fix to the coming iPhone 3 are qualities that should have been there since it's first release. They are still playing catch-up to Windows Mobile.
The only thing I like about the iPhone is the speed. Other than that, nothing else. With more powerful processor coming out, this will definitely be a brighter future for WM.
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I'm fed up with having to reset my phone when it crashes on an incoming call, or re-syncing it to my BT car Hands free set...............
I've had to work hard and rely on the good devs here (thanks folks)to be able to get to a point where my phone is just about stable.
The iPhone is starting to look like a possability when my contract is up in six months
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Sorry to see you are having trouble, but for me, my setup is very stable. No crashes nor freezes, so I am happy with Windows Mobile. BT works flawlessly too. I believe stability is related to what applications you have installed. I have about 350 applications and games installed, you just need to try them one by one and see which one causes the problem. This is the proceedure I do each time I upgrade my device. By the way, I have an HTC Advantage X7510. I just use my HTC Universal as the test subject nowadays.
I'd like to thank those brave enough to say that the iPhone does in fact pose a huge problem to WM, and those brave enough to say that they're willing to move away. Another thing I'd like to say is that being tied to a carrier/network that you don't like is not actually an argument against the iPhone, rather the circumstances surrounding it. Let's keep this thread based around an SIM-unlocked iPhone for a change. Also, let's just look at the OS, and not the extras HTC/Samsung/SE has overlayed on top.
Now, let's face it, WM is losing appeal- fast. WM is dynamic and flexible- almost like an open-source OS, but the UI is outdated and still bears an uncanny resemblance to it's oldest predecessor almost 10 whole years ago. Also, it can get laggy, and crashes even on stock ROMs, so there's another bunch of disadvantages.
Not much left. Let's hope WM7 saves MS.
I agree 100% with cktlcmd.
Thanks for putting it exactly how I would,
so I don't have to think.
This is what I'm feeling so far.......... (my two cents)
I love my wimo (6700, 8525, tilt and now touch Pro) and at first I use to tell people that only way that iPhone is making a killing is because how they advertised the phone.
People with iPhones use to be like your phone looks and feels like a brick. I will tell them how the wimo can do all types of things, so they started coming back to me and showing how once they jail break the phone they can do about all most the same thing. I would laugh and say well you still can't get mms, teathering, or cut/paste......3.0 is coming out for the iPhone, now I feel like hiding from the ones I laughed at.
If Microsoft is reading......please help us out, because the reason I love the phones is because they can do wonders but now I'm starting to feel like an old school guy with and old phone not willing to give up.............We (I hope I can speak for all the wimo people) spend at alot of time and money on these phone and just want a little something back, beside a new phone......think about the inside the phone and help us out so we can stay and be the top dogs again.
Hey friends,
whats up? How you like Android? Is it fulfilling all of your need? Have fun
Being someone that moved from Palm to the Android, I am fully satisfied! The only thing that I missed from palm is the ability to record my phone calls. But this is not Android OS issue it is hardware issue. So I am a happy Android(HTC Desire) user!
Of course! Everything I need in one homescreen, custom ROMs, plus it beats the hell out of an iPhone!
Most of my needs...
..and for the others we have women
Completely satisfied... Anything it didn't do straight out of the box was easy and painless to add. Having been a BB and iPhone user before, I can safely say Android is by far the best for me.
Although... It doesn't make my coffee in the morning and run me a bath when I finish work, so I've been forced to get married to cover these missing functions...
It has far surpassed my needs!
Even satisfied needs I didn't know I had!
Only drawback I can point to with switching over is there needs to be a way to get out of the cloud if you don't want to have your head, contacts and Calendar in those clouds.
And the lack of Sync with PC for Outlook built in is a major inconvenience.
(I have found some 3rd party functionality here none of it perfect yet)
I used to use my WinMo phone like it was intended, mostly as a communications device and for a wireless hotspot. Sometimes a MP3 player and rarely to get web pages or manuals for the devices I use in my work (Broadcast Video Engineer)
Now on android I have dish pointer that lets me know what satellites I can hit through the camera, I have better web to read and get Manuals where I can zoom much quicker and precisely than I could before.
It automatically will update all the programs I have gotten from the marketplace keeping itself up to date.
And the resposiveness of the hardware (1.2 Ghz) is just a pure pleasure!
It allows me to set the machine up in a sense like format (different tabs for different functions) and the widget is everything WinMo Today plugs SHOULD have been.
I am all for brand loyalty and I understand it is hard to leave a house that you spent so much of your life in but I can't ever imagine wanting to go back or onto the very simplistic and uncustomizable WinPho7.
Android isn't perfect but it sure is a lot better than the other OS' I have seen.
Coming from IOS it doesnt seem as smooth or polished but it has been able to do everything I need...
^^
+1...android has lots of customizations..great features but it isnt just as smooth as my iphone was.
drafunt said:
Being someone that moved from Palm to the Android, I am fully satisfied! The only thing that I missed from palm is the ability to record my phone calls. But this is not Android OS issue it is hardware issue. So I am a happy Android(HTC Desire) user!
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There is an app in the market called call rocorder...i m using it currenty with my evo...and it works great...it uses the phones mic to record and the recorded conversations are clearly audible.
You can try it for your phone.
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whats up? How you like Android? Is it fulfilling all of your need? Have fun
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The only thing is miss from my iphone is the ability to listen to podcasts at 2x speed. I know there are some apps out there that have a solution for this but they dont work on my Streak.
I would say i'm very Satisfied with android coming from a iPhone was a big upgrade to me. I like the freedom that we have and can customize pretty much everything. But I will admit that the only things I missed from having a iPhone is the music player and some of the apps were pretty sweet.
Very much!
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Coming from IOS it doesnt seem as smooth or polished but it has been able to do everything I need...
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I guess it depends on your phone and ROM. I use a Galaxy S, and Doc's ROM (fully customized from the kitchen), and my phone literally couldn't be faster. I click something and usually it's done before I lift my finger. Except for 3G (which is pathetic in Australia).
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Absolutely! I used an iPhone for a year before switching to Android. A couple months ago, I decided to sell my iPhone so I booted it up to clear everything out, and couldn't figure out how to do anything! Simple actions, like turning on wifi, and finding an app, are multi-step processes there. Android is awesome, simply put.
Android has not failed me so far, not in regards to software. Apps are great, software gets better every update, account syncing makes adding contacts so much easier... I could go on.
That said, I've had my truly great experiences with the software only after I rooted my device, shortly after HTC pushed out their 2.1 Sense ROM for it. Since then, I've used a variety of amazing ROMs, both 2.2 and 2.3, which are much more representative of what Android is capable of when truly optimised to a specific device. I've used Symbian and iOS, but I don't think I'll be looking back from Android any time soon.
Yep! I find it can do everything I want and really fast, plus more. I must say there are some really handy apps out there.
One area which I think could improve is GPS software, I'm talking about offline map GPS software. I use CoPilot and while it's the best I've seen so far on Android, iGO8 on my i900 WinMo is much much better.
Great for multitasking, smooth, very customizable. I love android and will never switch to another os
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Works great for me, I can't get away from my phone. I just wish service was better, but that's another story.
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Android is the best upgrading i ever did, switching from my dumb nokia n97..
The only thing degrading rite now is the android market.. Slowly, day by day, the android market has turned into itunes app market.. Lot's of crap apps rather than really useful apps.. Seriously, what's up with fart apps, stupid bikini puzzle, pointless sexy girl wallpaper apps?? We don't need million stupid apps that cluttering the market.. That is one of the reasons i stop myself from buying an iphone4..
No offense..
it is more than full filing my needs . I do everything with it fun, work, multimedia etc.
Far from satisfied.
Navigation isn't as good as on WM
Keyboard sucks, had to get swype
Can't make calls using phone numbers emailed to me
Email client is soooooo basic, only good thing about it is the ability to connect to 2 exchange servers
Browsing the web is a PITA, go to zoom in, accidently hit a link instead which is too small to read (hence the need to zoom in) and then have to go back and do it again. Also there are many pages/links which it can't handle using default browser/firefox/opera
So many apps, so few decent ones
Hi everyone, i have a couple of questions, now im in no way a troll or anything but i was thinking to switchin to wp, im with android at the moment i have a galaxy note.
Basically i just wanted to know what does wp 7.8 or even the upcoming wp8 devices have thats different to say an android or ios phone? I have no experience whatsoever with wp and would just like to know why you as users love your devices, ive seen the videos of the nokia 920 on youtube and it looks absolutely amazing, the reason i would like to switch is probably the fluidity of the os but other than that is there much else a reason to swap, even if someone could post a link as to reasons why wp is a good os that would be great, once again im not a troll i just have no clue about the operating system at all, i was curious about broadening my horizons abit many thanks if anyone can enlighten me
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Obvious troll is obvious.
And three question marks is rude.
I just said i werent trolling are u stupid???
Its people like u who make xda such a nasty place to be in, i had a genuine question cos i was seriously thinkin bout switchin from android to wp, so i say to u to stop being so paranoid bout trolling when someone asks a genuine question oh and stop spamming my post with useless comments, if u thought i was a troll then why bother using ur energy and time to post in the thread, ur the troll causing needless arguements
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Your question would be better asked in the WP8 forum. No need to beat this horse.
You watched the videos , you should have a pretty good understanding of the OS. What you see is exactly all there is to it, nothing more.
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Hi everyone, i have a couple of questions, now im in no way a troll or anything but i was thinking to switchin to wp, im with android at the moment i have a galaxy note.
Basically i just wanted to know what does wp 7.8 or even the upcoming wp8 devices have thats different to say an android or ios phone? I have no experience whatsoever with wp and would just like to know why you as users love your devices, ive seen the videos of the nokia 920 on youtube and it looks absolutely amazing, the reason i would like to switch is probably the fluidity of the os but other than that is there much else a reason to swap, even if someone could post a link as to reasons why wp is a good os that would be great, once again im not a troll i just have no clue about the operating system at all, i was curious about broadening my horizons abit many thanks if anyone can enlighten me
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The reason why i love my Windows Phone is the design, the minimalistic design which is "modern" since 1950 till today that style is modern like black and white clothes. the second thing is that i dont need so much apps for every possible thing. i dont need to know how my wp7 works to manage it to work for months.
3rd what i love is the durability, i switch my wp7 only off if i have a new rom (that happens maybe once a year ). In wp7 you dont need to feel that your device uses you, you have the full control over the functions what your device can do for you. you dont need to bother if the device is gonna shut off at any time, no bother about slowdowns or maybe even forcing to restart like i saw multiple times on my brothers stock HTC evo 3D.
and the 4th are the live tiles, you spend way less time customizing and arranging your live tiles then on android the look and feel.
5th. my battery last now in my device over one day and 10 hours, and my battery is 1 year and 3 months old. and only 1500mAh! the lumia 920 has 2000mAh, just imagine what can be done with it. and how long it lasts.
6st. wireless sync with my pc, all my videos and pictures get synced automatic if my device is charging anywhere in my house.
7th. the people hub, there i have all the news from twitter, facebook, windows live, and linked in in one "app" that doesnt have a loading, if you have internet it download instantly the news if you switch to the "news" tab in the people hub.
8th. i love the overall simplicity of wp7, no bunch of setting for each app, instead microsoft has found the middle way, settings for all apps together. and i think it is a good way despite users say "i need a seperate volume ringtone and seperate volum for sms" you use your device or you dont use it you have volume turned on or off. thats what i need, nothing in between.
9th. i love the bunch of new developers with new app and functions like the official FC Bayern football app, if i'm not at home it send me an instant notification about goals, and the result is on the live tile, it is visible even without opening the app, thats only one example of apps that i like (instant news and info without opening app) - so to say "on the go"
10th. a wp7 has not every of my friends. i dont like mainstream to much.
11th. reason why i love windows phone 7 or 8 or 7.8 is that making apps for them is really easy (i heard from various developers that developing for iOS is a pain in the ass), with a few books and tutorials and some practice everybody can make an app, as an student you get an free dev center account where you can publish your apps and even earn money on them.
12th. reason is i'am 24h online, so i get emails instantly, news about my buddys... my brohter turn its wifi off on its Android HTC EVO 3D because he says it drains its battery... i dont like that. if it is a smartphone let it be a smartphone 24h not only 2h daily.
and WP7 is truly a smartphone, it makes my life easier, much.
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1. The main strength is its UI. Even after almost two years of ownership, I still get amazed watching smooth animations on my phone. It simply never ages, never slows down. Even typing on its keyboard feels quite amazing.
2. Second biggest strength is its exclusive apps. For example, Nokia Drive served me many times and quite beautifully. Nokia Group Shots is extremely handy and blows my friends away. Photosynth is just mindblowing (now available on iOS as well)! MS Office is quite useful. My phone quite easily connects to all kinds of WiFi networks with proxy settings, no hassles at all! Xbox avatar (see my xda avatar) is just so cute and achievements add a new dimension to games.
In a small summary, it's some small things which can't be mentioned on specs sheet which makes WP7 truly amazing. It is so wonderful that I can't even care if my phone is not getting WP8 upgrade. I'm actually far more looking for a slew of new Nokia apps like Xpress browser which has saved me 84% data so far
daAppu said:
1. The main strength is its UI. Even after almost two years of ownership, I still get amazed watching smooth animations on my phone. It simply never ages, never slows down. Even typing on its keyboard feels quite amazing.
2. Second biggest strength is its exclusive apps. For example, Nokia Drive served me many times and quite beautifully. Nokia Group Shots is extremely handy and blows my friends away. Photosynth is just mindblowing (now available on iOS as well)! MS Office is quite useful. My phone quite easily connects to all kinds of WiFi networks with proxy settings, no hassles at all! Xbox avatar (see my xda avatar) is just so cute and achievements add a new dimension to games.
In a small summary, it's some small things which can't be mentioned on specs sheet which makes WP7 truly amazing. It is so wonderful that I can't even care if my phone is not getting WP8 upgrade. I'm actually far more looking for a slew of new Nokia apps like Xpress browser which has saved me 84% data so far
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So refreshing to see such a positive note for WP7.x! :good:
Gentlemen, time to retire the old Thunderbolt. Looking into the 8X and Droid DNA. I have watched and read a ton of vids and reviews on the 8x and DNA, now its time for the experts to lend thier opinion.
I will not be rooting or whatever we call it on the windows platform. thats a condition of the new phone. I have rooted or unlocked all prior phones, including my old Imagio, but the wife is accurate when she said they never work as good as when you left them alone. So with that, need un-unlocked opinions.
Storage - I use the phone mostly for music, some pictures for facebook and MMS, how bad is 16 (actually 11!?) with 7 skydrive? How many songs (or hours). Dont ask me to compare what I have space wise on my 32G SD card, my music is scattered from one file to the next, and the card is full of apk's and zips.
Overall performance - Really, this is where you guys can offer me true expertise. What do you personally think of the 8X compared to your old phone, especially if you came from a TB or android based OS?
iPhone factor - So I really like to brag about how my phones rock well beyond what my sheeps iPhone---I mean wife's iPhone can do. Can I truly have my tag say 'The iPhone killer!'
Thanks in advance guys! Everyone here at XDA just rocks the mobile world!
Come on guys, anyone got any opinion? Really would hate to reduce my choice to the DNA because I didn't get any feedback. Your opinions really matter, and would like to go into the store with a real good idea on the choice.
Let me know what you all think! Thanks again guys and gals!
Hey there,
Ive been running wp7 and its successors on my hd2 for some time (well over a year), as well as trying android and the dreaded ibone.
What i would say about wp8 and the 8x is this: It is completely different to droid & iOS. Both those os's are completely app dependant therefore data & memory hungry.
WP8 is different, if you are a facebook/twitter/linkedin bod (like me) these are fully integrated in to the os, hit 'people' tab and 'boom' all there in one screen - no app involved (in fact i hardly ever use the official fb/twit apps).
The os is smooth as butter, it was even on wp7 in the early days. WP8 is much better, the next generation, its fast, stable makes you smile in its natural and instinctive 'user-bility'.
What i would also say, is that you cannot fully appreciate a wp device whilst playing with it in a shop for 10 minutes. If you can, borrow one for a week and live with it - get it set up for YOU.........windows phone is for YOU. You will either love it or hate it, but i promise you an experience - Yes im a windows bod, have been since the days of wm5 - be different and own something that can only get better (just look at the low level of development from the ibone 4 to the 5 - point made)
Just my 2 cents of course - it is purely subjective.
Thanks Timmymarsh! I would love to borrow one, but doubt that will happen. Maybe I can get Verizon to go with a 15 day trial period or something.
I have a friend who works at MS, and he gets all the latest and greatest, and just loves his phone. Doubt he can get one for me ;(
Thanks for the information, it really helps to hear honest opinions!
I too have had rooted androids and jailbroken iPhones, but this phone has completely changed my outlook on things. While it has a few things I'd like different, I don't have any desire to change or alter it. Its fast, smooth, and didn't leave me with buyer's remorse immediately afterwards
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I too have had rooted androids and jailbroken iPhones, but this phone has completely changed my outlook on things. While it has a few things I'd like different, I don't have any desire to change or alter it. Its fast, smooth, and didn't leave me with buyer's remorse immediately afterwards
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How easy is its initial set up? I mean getting the screen to show the way you want, and setting up say outlook for contacts and emails? and can you tell me how that skydrive works? Does it play the music from there, or just downloads what I need?
Also, the xbox portion of the phone, if you xbox, how does it integrate and does it expand the xbox or more informational?
sooo easy to set up its painful, beats droid out the ground re contacts etc. I have an outlook account, gmail, msn, facebook, twitter & 3 other email accounts. So easy to link all your contacts so they appear in one contact page. Once you done it, its backed up for the next time - new device or hard rest
Mate, be different and get one, all new devices have their quircks, inc google and apple, but having said that, you wont be disappointed.
As for drop box, someone else will have to comment there as i dont know, i just sync the music i immediately want on my device so sant comment
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sooo easy to set up its painful, beats droid out the ground re contacts etc. I have an outlook account, gmail, msn, facebook, twitter & 3 other email accounts. So easy to link all your contacts so they appear in one contact page. Once you done it, its backed up for the next time - new device or hard rest
Mate, be different and get one, all new devices have their quircks, inc google and apple, but having said that, you wont be disappointed.
As for drop box, someone else will have to comment there as i dont know, i just sync the music i immediately want on my device so sant comment
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Thanks again Timmy. I just watched a ton of vids where they demonstrated the 8X against android and apple, and I am really liking the idea of the live tiles, the different way the screen provides information, and the speed at which he was able to do stuff. Even counting he is paid to be that fast, its still impresive especially since he shows them how it works.
I am a minimilistic fan, and use SSLauncher with nothing but texts for my 'icons', but surprising, I find the boxes refreshing. I was leaning more towards the DNA, but ever since I started to get responses here, I think I am going to seriously check out the 8X.
not putting you off the 8x, its a great device, but try the nokia 920 in the shop too.
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not putting you off the 8x, its a great device, but try the nokia 920 in the shop too.
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Yea, last rumor mill had it showing up around August, that came and went. So now they are saying end of this year (like in 18 days) or next year. If it doesn't come soon, then it wont happen for me.
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How easy is its initial set up? I mean getting the screen to show the way you want, and setting up say outlook for contacts and emails? and can you tell me how that skydrive works? Does it play the music from there, or just downloads what I need?
Also, the xbox portion of the phone, if you xbox, how does it integrate and does it expand the xbox or more informational?
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not sure how SkyDrive works as I haven't used it yet. The Xbox support was a high point for me since it does so much that other phones can't or don't. Setting up your home screen is as easy as any I suppose. Simple but not boring
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Hey guys, want to thank all of you for helping, voicing your opinions, etc. I have made my decision.
Watched a 6+ part video on each area of the 8X and then learning about WPDemo.com, decided to go back to Microsoft. Looking forward to getting the new phone. Guess only question now is, what color?
Thanks again everyone! I even found several apps that are both WM and android. So I only loose a few (turn by turn hurts a little though!)
Any idea when thats going to be corrected? I refuse to pay Veri$on any more money then they are already getting!
Thanks again everyone!