I was using my nexus s on Rogers network, and I thought, that since Fido is basically the same company as Rogers and Nexus S is an unlocked phone, my nexus s should have no problem working on Fido's network, and all I have to do is changing the SIM card.
The truth turned out to be, my nexus s, with a Fido SIM card inside, is ROAMing on Rogers network! I cannot see any carrier but Rogers if I go into the "network search" menu! Even if I checked the "only use 2g network" option!
I live in Montreal and I should have perfect Fido reception. My guess is that my nexus s may be secretly locked to Rogers network, and no matter what SIM card I put in it always, and only, finds Rogers network and connects to it, making the service become roaming if i use SIM card from other local carrier.
Is there any nexus s using Fido's network properly in Canada? or specifically in Montreal area?
Has anyone found a problem like this when doing a network switch?
it will work only as Voice
data will be EDGE only
Its currently asw 1700 / "t-mobile" only' therefore wind or mobilicity will get 3G.
Rogers Fido Bell & Telus use HSPA 850 1900 will not.
Is your phone *really* roaming on Rogers?
Fido is owned by Rogers, and as far as I know, they share the same network.
It could be that your Nexus S is just not displaying the network name "FIDO" and is displaying Rogers instead.
Wind Mobile, for instance, displays their network number on the Nexus S, but if you put the same chip on a Blackberry it will either show "Wind Home" or "Wind Away".
fishfuse said:
Is your phone *really* roaming on Rogers?
Fido is owned by Rogers, and as far as I know, they share the same network.
It could be that your Nexus S is just not displaying the network name "FIDO" and is displaying Rogers instead.
Wind Mobile, for instance, displays their network number on the Nexus S, but if you put the same chip on a Blackberry it will either show "Wind Home" or "Wind Away".
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Yes. My Nexus S works fine with rogers. If I switch to a Fiso SIM card, it literally ROAMs on rogers network with a little "R" on top of the signal bar and ONLY finds rogers network in the "wireless" menu.
This is so weird.
Boszman said:
Its currently asw 1700 / "t-mobile" only' therefore wind or mobilicity will get 3G.
Rogers Fido Bell & Telus use HSPA 850 1900 will not.
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It finds Rogers network and connects to it in EDGE. Even Fido and rogers use the same network/frequency/towers, it just can't see any network but Rogers.
Are your phones working well with Fido?
thllxb said:
If I switch to a Fiso SIM card, it literally ROAMs on rogers network with a little "R" on top of the signal bar and ONLY finds rogers network in the "wireless" menu.
This is so weird.
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it doesn't matter, it still is on FIDO
i had an old Treo phones that did the exact same thing, because FIDO is not considered a real network in Canada as it's owned by ROGERS, so most of the time they get grouped together
but if you see their tower ID, you'll see they are on the correct tower
but it is a very tedious process to do that
regardless you will not get billed roaming as fido=rogers=fido=rogers=one company with 2 faces
My friend and I are both on Fido. We have older basic phones. I am on a basic plan. He is on older CityFido plan. Neither of us have data plan, voice only. His phone shows Rogers. Mine shows Fido (perhaps due to my SIM).
When I look at available networks in my phone, I only see Rogers. Fido no longer exists as a network. It is merely a cosmetic sub-brand of Rogers.
Fido and Rogers merged networks years ago; there is only one network: Rogers.
I hope this helps.
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I'm taking a holiday to Australia, and want to use my Telus TP2 in Australia.
If I unlock my Telus TP2, and get a Telstra SIM, will that work?
According to this Wikipedia page you should be good for 3G there.
quid246 said:
According to this Wikipedia page you should be good for 3G there.
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I don't care about 3G (because I don't get 3G on Telus' network anyway...****ers...), I care about being able to SIM unlock my phone, put a Telstra SIM in, and connect to the Telstra network as a Telstra customer (I would get a plan there).
I've heard weird things about CDMA and its registration plan...
Telstra works on regular GSM bands. You should be fine.
I don't know if they have any CDMA networks in AU... but in any case, just set your (unlocked) phone settings to GSM/UMTS only and it won't see any CDMA networks.
I just got off the phone with Telus and what they told me is that they are releasing ANOTHER TP2 on the GSM network and that I would have to buy another phone TP2 just to get onto the GSM network.
This being said, is there any way to modify the radio signal in my CDMA phone to read both CDMA and GSM, or atleast get more speed out of my phone for connectivity to the net?
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I just got off the phone with HTC and the lady I spoke with told me, that to change the radio frequency I just had to change the ROM. That being said IF, I put a Telus HSPA ROM on there the phone should be capable of working on the network. Now that being said. If this is possible would it not be possible to run on both networks, CDMA and HSPA, making the signal control software dependent, meaning I have CDMA controls for standard phone calls and HSPA for running the highspeed network?
Update in previous post.
Eazy, just HardSPL and security unlock your radio bro...Only then you can use the GSM networks in your country (I'm guessing it's US)
But you can only activate one at a time. Either GSM only or CDMA only..CMIIW..
Just my 2 cents
Actually it's Canada
Right but if I unlock the phone, and switch it back and forth on and off the networks, how would that affect my account, could I hide the fact i was doing this?
slight22 said:
Actually it's Canada
Right but if I unlock the phone, and switch it back and forth on and off the networks, how would that affect my account, could I hide the fact i was doing this?
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I have this phone on Telus...I got it unlocked and I put my work sim card in this phone and it's on rogers. I switch networks when necessary....If you get a Telus sim card you would be able to use it GSM.
You should be able to pick which network you use. I saw it in phone settings, I think.
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I have this phone on Telus...I got it unlocked and I put my work sim card in this phone and it's on rogers. I switch networks when necessary....If you get a Telus sim card you would be able to use it GSM.
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TELUS does not provide GSM at all. They are CDMA and UMTS.
So does this mean its possible. If i have a CDMA Sprint HTC Touch pro 2. That i have the potential of using it on At&t in the US?? All i have to do is unlock it?? Any information would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks!!
And if one does unlock a radio on said Telus phone, can one use both radio frequencies, thus enabling both CDMA and HSPA frequencies?
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TELUS does not provide GSM at all. They are CDMA and UMTS.
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So Telus new 3G network is not GSM? It does have drop down menu showing "Send SMS over" GMS and CDMA. GSM is selected by default.
Ok, I have tried the registry editor for sprint to force to roaming....the reason I want to do that, is because I'm in southern Ontario, and the Bell network is using HSPA (which is a lot faster), its under my understanding that I would not get billed for roaming if I am using a bell tower.......Thank you
the HSPA network is gsm and you are running cdma. So unless you get a bell sim card I don't see this happening.
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the HSPA network is gsm and you are running cdma. So unless you get a bell sim card I don't see this happening.
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and i dont think you get 3g on gsm?
correct i doubt the phone supports the bell 3g gsm band
So I bought a Samsung Google Nexus S i9020A 850/1900 3G Unlocked from a US Vendor and I put my FIDO simcard in and everything is fine, but I'm seeing the roaming icon, although I am clearly on Fido and in Canada. For 3G to work, I had to turn "International Data Roaming" ON.
Now to the question: Will I be charged for roaming (data and/or voice) by FIDO?
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yes the stock ROM has outdated Canadian company GSM info
you don't get charged Roaming unless you exit your regular service area
Fido = Rogers
AllGamer said:
yes the stock ROM has outdated Canadian company GSM info
you don't get charged Roaming unless you exit your regular service area
Fido = Rogers
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thanks. will flashing CM's ROM fix this? or should I be flashing a newer radio?
it was the same problem for Windmobiles
it was only showing the network number instead of the name
the latest 2.3.3 patch fixed it for me
I'm hearing reports of this for NS models bought in Canada and used on a different carrier. I don't known an NS but I'd be useful to know what to tell people is the solution.
Radio UKCD1 has the correct carrier info and gets rid of the roaming icon. This was the radio that either came with my phone purchased from FIDO, or was updated when I installed 2.3.4.
I'm personally using XXKB3 as it gives me a way noticeable difference in signal strength here in Winnipeg. I'll live with the roaming icon for now.
Hi folks,
I've just received my Verizon 3G/WiFi Xoom from the US and have been trying to get it to work with my Telstra NextG sim-card with no success?
Can anyone advise what I might be doing wrong. I just placed the NextG (UMTS 850) sim-card in the slot and rebooted. Then I asked it to "activate my wireless device" and it just sat there for like half an hour without doing anything.
Can anyone advise please?
Thanks
I'd say it's a good bet that the Xoom's 3g radio which is set up for Verizon's network is not going to work with your network.
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I'd say it's a good bet that the Xoom's 3g radio which is set up for Verizon's network is not going to work with your network.
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How is a radio "set up" for Verizon's network? It's the same frequency, I've used other Verizon devices on Telstra's network before with no issues.
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How is a radio "set up" for Verizon's network? It's the same frequency, I've used other Verizon devices on Telstra's network before with no issues.
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They use completely different network technologies (even though they're both called 3G). Telstra uses UMTS, Verizon uses CDMA/EvDO. It's *not* going to work.
ed. And even if they *were* compatible, they do use different frequency bands, from Moto's own site: "CDMA 800 /1900 LTE 700, Rx diversity in all bands". Telstra use 850.
Also, the sim card isn't goign to be used until the 4G upgrade. verizon 3g doesn't require a sim card.
Yes, my mistake. I noticed yesterday that Telstra dumped their CDMA network back in 2006
Oh well. We're supposed to be getting 4G/LTE by the end of the year.
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Yes, my mistake. I noticed yesterday that Telstra dumped their CDMA network back in 2006
Oh well. We're supposed to be getting 4G/LTE by the end of the year.
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On 1800MHz, not the 700MHz that the Xoom's 4G LTE upgrade will have.
Telstra are probably going to release the Xoom in AU anyway, so you could see about getting a LTE card from them, perhaps.
Right, thanks for the tip!
An expensive lesson learnt :`(