After a month of a stock captivate, my first android (was a crackberry addict), I rooted it then the next day installed my first ROM Firefly 1.5. I loved it, worked great with very few bugs then two days later I updated to 2.0.5 and have been running it for three days, it's even better. Once I got over the fact I could make a plastic brick I have started having fun, next up for a flash is Serendipity.
So with all these great hot rod ROM's why would I even want stock froyo?
Thank you XDA.
U are right I was running darky's 8.0.1
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Ya at this point I don't really care.the only thing will be better source for the roms. I used to love perception and cognition but I have found my battery is loads better with firefly
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I think for most people it's two main things. First, all of our current ROMs are using source from a different phone. Some are other Captivates from other parts of the world or they use the I9000 as a base. I think alot of people would like to be able to use our own Captivate source to start from.
The second, and really the biggest issue for me, is that it simply hasn't been released yet. At this point I definately would NOT update to it but the fact that Samsung and AT&T haven't bothered to release Froyo really Pi$$es me off. I paid alot of money for this phone. I'd like to see some support for it. Especially since this "was" their flagship phone.
But did you buy the phone solely for the release of froyo? I bought the phone for what it was, like I have bought every phone, not for updates down the road that I didn't know about. After coming from Blackberry I love being able to play with anything and everything I want. Although if ATT does release froyo to us will it be that much different than what was released in Canada? Will any future ROM's have a better starting point?
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But did you buy the phone solely for the release of froyo? I bought the phone for what it was, like I have bought every phone, not for updates down the road that I didn't know about. After coming from Blackberry I love being able to play with anything and everything I want. Although if ATT does release froyo to us will it be that much different than what was released in Canada? Will any future ROM's have a better starting point?
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Quite frankly yes, my thinking they would quickly upgrade to Froyo was a big motivator to buy the Captivate. Certainly not the only reason but it was a consideration. Remember, when this was released they were teling us September to November for Froyo, all unofficial of course.
I'm more upset about the lack of support. They have a major issue, the GPS, that they haven't fixed with ANY update. They've had a phone out for 7+ months and they haven't released and update for 5 months.
Again, at this point I don't particularly care. But it will definately be something I consider when I upgrade my phone next time.
Same Here. I got the captivate just because of Super AMOLED screen and Froyo. FROYO is the minimum requirement to have Skype working in Galaxy S device. I guess I would just stick to the iOS device because it supports two Bluetooth headsets, keyboards, Skype video call, very intuitive copy and paste including the web format and pictures. ANDROID still has a lot to catch up.
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Did I buy it for Froyo? No. BUT a big reason I did choose it over othrr options is that soon it would have the ability to run flash. Guess what. It still doesn't. When my contract expires I'll be saying farewell to ATT & Samsung.
I settled for the best ATT had since they chose to invest in Windows Mobile and iPhone while ignoring Android and the rest of the family was still under contract. I paid new phone prices and ended up with a used phone when mine wouldn't stay turned on. Traded a phone that wouldn't stay on for one that the GPS doesn't work. Been jerked around by BOTH companies while trying to get the trouble fixed. In the mean time I got locked into a contract. I've been with ATT since they bought out Cingular here, and had Cingular because they had the best coverage. But coverage is meaningless if the phone doesn't work. I'll move to Verizon and it has nothing to do with the iPhone.
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Is Verizon any better though? I've been with Cingular/ATT for 10+ years and have had very few problems but had thought about switching to Verizon which seems like the only other viable network but ATT coverage has been great in Texas. I guess what I'm really saying is that anything beats a Blackberry Curve.
What todo?
Is Verizon any better though? If Verizon expects to sell >25,000,000 iphones in 2011, IMO stay with AT&T I got my first AT&T phone in 1983
I can agree to a point. Alot of users say we need the source. But i bet maybe a handfull of "devs" know what to do with it lol.
Just my opnion though.
I didn't buy my Captivate specifically for 2.2 but now that I have it on there it is quite an improvement. I have never put a custom rom on it so I can't compare to those but it is faster than 2.1 was.
If I never got the update I don't think I would be all that upset though because the cappy is a huge upgrade from my old htc Dream on 1.6. Also I never really had lag and my gps would always lock in 2.1 so it wasnt the huge upgrade for me that it would be for others.
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Coming from 10+ yrs of Nokia and symbian...my wishlist would be an unlocked, unbranded android device so we don't have to rely on the operator...The Captivate is the first subsidized device I've bought in a long time and probably the last. I'm not interested in flashing a custom rom on a subsidized phone. Hopefully there will be some availability in the near future of just a plain jane unlocked unbranded android phone and screw the operators of the world.
I have fun flashing custom roms............but...........my phone dont like them. I could be talking on the phone and all of a sudden I get a weird noise and the call drops. I tried numerous roms, kernals, and modems and they all do it. I wouldnt mind 2.1 if the data was faster and there was a mobile ap like the custom roms have.
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I have fun flashing custom roms............but...........my phone dont like them. I could be talking on the phone and all of a sudden I get a weird noise and the call drops. I tried numerous roms, kernals, and modems and they all do it. I wouldnt mind 2.1 if the data was faster and there was a mobile ap like the custom roms have.
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There's apps that support tethering for stock builds, as far as data goes, dl speeds should be comparable to customer roms, uploads speeds is where you see the difference if you're using HSUPA. Try forcing 850 or 1900 bands using SGS tools.
As as needing Froyo, meh!
I guess having the source is good but how much better is it really going to be? There are lots of stable/fast builds already off of official i9000 roms. I'm sooo over Froyo. Where's Gingerbread
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I have fun flashing custom roms............but...........my phone dont like them. I could be talking on the phone and all of a sudden I get a weird noise and the call drops. I tried numerous roms, kernals, and modems and they all do it. I wouldnt mind 2.1 if the data was faster and there was a mobile ap like the custom roms have.
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What's the big deal with mobile AP? I used a Nokia device on Symbian for years with Joiku hotspot and used it occasionally at best. Granted it worked fine when needed, but it would amount to about 1 day/year with all the wifi out there nowadays
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Quite frankly yes, my thinking they would quickly upgrade to Froyo was a big motivator to buy the Captivate. Certainly not the only reason but it was a consideration. Remember, when this was released they were teling us September to November for Froyo, all unofficial of course.
I'm more upset about the lack of support. They have a major issue, the GPS, that they haven't fixed with ANY update. They've had a phone out for 7+ months and they haven't released and update for 5 months.
Again, at this point I don't particularly care. But it will definately be something I consider when I upgrade my phone next time.
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Samsung did release GPSRestore in the market to "fix" the GPS issue, but it only restores the settings and doesn't correct the software issue. Nonetheless it is an attempted "fix".
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Anyone still on 2.1 is officially obsolete. Google has released a ton of new features for froyo and gingerbread users. Including google instant, new gmail app, and other things.
Which leaves 2.1 users with old software never to be upgraded again.
I still haven't flashed (due to warranty issues) but even if I did I would be upset because it still is based on buggy pre-release software.
Based on the epic 4g leak the froyo should be version 2.2.1 so new roms would be 2.2.1 instead of buggy 2.2
Why doesn't samsung care about their customers!
Yea, I share your sentiments. I tried most of the 2.2 leak ROMs, but most had troubles. The list of apps that don't work on 2.1 and below is growing. I wonder if Google Maps 5 will be the same way.
I really thinking about just buying an unlocked nexus s but then i realize its still samsung!!!
I returned a samsung tv i bought for my family for christmas because they suck so much ;D
The more I read about this (and the GPS malfunction), the more I think that when my Captivate arrives tomorrow I may just take it into an AT$T store and demand a refund and contract cancellation.
What we need is a Samsung Customer Service number we can start calling to voice our opinions. Any have a good Samsung number for this or a similar purpose?
Yes more than half of android devices are "obsolete"...
Return it? Because your too lazy to flash your phone with functional software instead of the junk Samsung and att gave us? I've been rocking the beta cm 6.1 for quite awhile and blows the doors off any 2.1 variant that was out there.....and as far as voiding your warranty its almost impossible to brick these phones so its completely easy to flash back to an out of the box state. So quit whining. This is what makes android so great. Take a phone with amazing hardware with crappy software and put amazing software on it
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For one, I'm not lazy or whining. I shouldn't have to flash my phone to get basic functionality out of it. The GPS should work without my having to invest in searching through a myriad of unauthorized solutions and risk not only voiding my warranty, but bricking my phone. If I wanted to put this much effort into making a phone work I would have stuck with WinMo 6.5 and my Tilt 2, which I know inside and out already. I moved to Android hoping I'd no longer have to spend so much time dicking around with my phone just to get things to work. You know, the whole "Droid Does" marketing ploy? The main reason I agreed to buy this phone was because I read on several different sites where Samsung said they were definitely going to update it to Froyo. I understand that their timetable may be off, but they should at least keep their promise. Is that too much to ask or expect?
Samsung promised Froyo by the end of the year for the US Market. They still have a 20 days. Their stance has not changed, so I don't see what anyone has to complain about.
As for GPS mine works as good as the one on my Bravo - my Tracks, Turn by Turn are the same. If your GPS has problems, take it back. If you try multiple phones and still have a problem, then make them switch you to another phone.
everyone knows they won't make the end of december date
It's not that I don't want to try custom ROMs. However, all the custom ROMs are built on leaked (and often buggy) Froyo ROMs. The sooner AT&T releases an official release Froyo ROM, the sooner we can get a stable (or more stable) custom Froyo ROM....hopefully they release the source code too. There's code in the custom ROMs that comes from all sorts of other ROMs lol
Ditto^^^ Well, according to Mr. Smalls, we're just lazy, whiny jerks with no valid excuse for not wanting to use a custom ROM on our phones.
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It's not that I don't want to try custom ROMs. However, all the custom ROMs are built on leaked (and often buggy) Froyo ROMs. The sooner AT&T releases an official release Froyo ROM, the sooner we can get a stable (or more stable) custom Froyo ROM....hopefully they release the source code too. There's code in the custom ROMs that comes from all sorts of other ROMs lol
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try axura.. VERY stable, fast, practical rom with good themes. its a work of art. been rocking it with very minimal issue (less issues compared to stock).
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For one, I'm not lazy or whining. I shouldn't have to flash my phone to get basic functionality out of it. The GPS should work without my having to invest in searching through a myriad of unauthorized solutions and risk not only voiding my warranty, but bricking my phone. If I wanted to put this much effort into making a phone work I would have stuck with WinMo 6.5 and my Tilt 2, which I know inside and out already. I moved to Android hoping I'd no longer have to spend so much time dicking around with my phone just to get things to work. You know, the whole "Droid Does" marketing ploy? The main reason I agreed to buy this phone was because I read on several different sites where Samsung said they were definitely going to update it to Froyo. I understand that their timetable may be off, but they should at least keep their promise. Is that too much to ask or expect?
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Am I correct that you don't even have your device as you're typing that?! Try it first..a lot of the stuff you read isn't what you will experience. I.E.: my gps has worked a charm since I picked mine up in mid October..it's an excellent device. I've had a Samsung DLP for more than 2 years and it works flawlessly. People like to rant..find out for yourself for chrissake. It's nice to be happy with a cell device for the first time in awhile for me..only complaint is att dragging heels on 2.2. I'm too busy and old (55) to have the energy to do all that stuff that many do..but it's also nice to know that if I get tired of waiting and get a wild hair, I'll root and flash when I'm good and ready. Meantime I think the Captivate is a great companion
From what I've heard, I think that it might be the carriers that are delaying the update. Don't know if this is true or not but I kinda doubt this is Samsung's fault.
@fldude, Thanks for the encouragement. I used to love fiddling with my WinMo phones and I enjoyed modding my Tilt 2 to where it runs great and does (almost) all I ask of it. I'd still be using it if WinMo wasn't a dead platform and the thing wasn't so laggy. That saidI was hoping the switch to Android would mean I finallly would have a phone that I could tinker with if I wanted to, but didn't HAVE to, like WinMo. I guess reading through these forums exposes one mostly to the negative since most people only post when having problems. I brushed most of it aside, but the GPS issue really stood out because I use GPS-enabled apps a lot and it works so well on my Tilt 2. I can't wait for the Cap to get here tomorrow so I can start playing with it. Thanks to running XDAndroid on my Tilt 2 I already have some idea of what to expect and how to use it.
I will say this, reading about rooting and flashing of Android, kernel this and apk that is a lot more intimidating than working with WinMo. I never hesitated to edit my registry, but modding Android sounds pretty scary.
By the way, does fl mean you're a fellow H-D rider?
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Samsung promised Froyo by the end of the year for the US Market. They still have a 20 days. Their stance has not changed, so I don't see what anyone has to complain about.
As for GPS mine works as good as the one on my Bravo - my Tracks, Turn by Turn are the same. If your GPS has problems, take it back. If you try multiple phones and still have a problem, then make them switch you to another phone.
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They were previously quoted saying by the end of November. There was that whole JH7 fiasco. And your argument doesn't change what he was saying. His whole point was that he shouldn't have to **** around to make it work. It just should.
david717;971 His whole point was that he shouldn't have to **** around to make it work. It just should.[/QUOTE said:
Ummm, I'm stock, never rooted, make phone calls, email, navigate with gps, surf the web, play games, usw.. How is this not a working phone? By my calculations this phone does "just work" and has since I pulled it out of its box in July.
I too am waiting for, now, v2.2.1...
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Before I bought mine I knee of the GPS issues and swwvthat a fix was coming. It still is. Besides the GPS my phone just works. Texting browsing g music video all just worked email too. Running the froyo leak my phone now completely 100% percent works. I'm excited to see how much more stable the official release will be.
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I have been following the forums regarding the so called Froyo release and I have to say that I am rather frustrated as well. I actually called AT&T last week to complain about the delay with Froyo with Gingerbread's release within a few weeks. Not to mention Honeycomb on the horizon.
In speaking with one of the techs he also shared his frustrations and was hoping that it would be released in early January. I told him that it was understood that it would be release at the end of the year and he confirmed that same understanding. However his sources revealed that it is now for early January. Let's hope this is true, but as you all know we have been given so many empty promises.
Furthermore,I read an article that Samsung is undecided whether to release Gingerbread for the Galaxy devices. For a product that has been so popular and successful, what are they thinking? Or maybe they are not!!
Either way my fingers and toes are crossed for Froyo for now...
Samsung posted this updated installation guide on their website this morning. IMHO if it's going to happen in December it's going to be this week. http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SGH-I897
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...2349485/ATT_I897_Captivate_Kiesmini_Guide.pdf
I think they just added the instructions for recovery mode. Seeing as how "Some of" the Canadian Vibrants are reporting corrupt storage issues after trying to upgrade via kies mini.
With all of the gingerbread action in the past week, I don't know why anyone would even bat an eye at an official froyo release. If you aren't running a 2.2 rom based on the leaked versions yet, you are severely limiting the speed and "snappiness" of your device. In short, while you guys wait for Sammy to roll out their "official" 2.2 update, we'll be running GB.
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I think they just added the instructions for recovery mode. Seeing as how "Some of" the Canadian Vibrants are reporting corrupt storage issues after trying to upgrade via kies mini.
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Good point, but isn't that the U.S. site?
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With all of the gingerbread action in the past week, I don't know why anyone would even bat an eye at an official froyo release. If you aren't running a 2.2 rom based on the leaked versions yet, you are severely limiting the speed and "snappiness" of your device. In short, while you guys wait for Sammy to roll out their "official" 2.2 update, we'll be running GB.
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There are plenty of reasons as discussed in these forums. For me I heavily use my phone for business and cannot afford any "hiccups".
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With all of the gingerbread action in the past week, I don't know why anyone would even bat an eye at an official froyo release. If you aren't running a 2.2 rom based on the leaked versions yet, you are severely limiting the speed and "snappiness" of your device. In short, while you guys wait for Sammy to roll out their "official" 2.2 update, we'll be running GB.
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JH7 w/ Voodoo is faster than any ROM based on a leaked Froyo build (from my experiences). I haven't tried the i9000 based ROMs however.
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There are plenty of reasons as discussed in these forums. For me I heavily use my phone for business and cannot afford any "hiccups".
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I too use my phone for work. And I also cannot have any "hiccups". I can be without it long enough to flash a ROM and then re-setup the stuff I need. That process takes less than 30 minutes nowadays.
If you stick to a true Cappy ROM (not an i9000-based one), then you won't experience hiccups...at least I don't. Battery life is a slight issue, but really, when are completely without the means to charge up some?
I've flashed maybe half a dozen times since I can't afford a bricked phone. I'm picky about flashing. But I'm also very picky about having a phone that is quite impressive hardware-wise, but almost completely crippled by the lackluster software. While Froyo isn't the most awesome thing ever, it is a major improvement over Eclair.
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I too use my phone for work. And I also cannot have any "hiccups". I can be without it long enough to flash a ROM and then re-setup the stuff I need. That process takes less than 30 minutes nowadays.
If you stick to a true Cappy ROM (not an i9000-based one), then you won't experience hiccups...at least I don't. Battery life is a slight issue, but really, when are completely without the means to charge up some?
I've flashed maybe half a dozen times since I can't afford a bricked phone. I'm picky about flashing. But I'm also very picky about having a phone that is quite impressive hardware-wise, but almost completely crippled by the lackluster software. While Froyo isn't the most awesome thing ever, it is a major improvement over Eclair.
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I used to flash quite often.. But it got to be a hassle restoring game saves... Contacts (then re-linking then to my Facebook contacts)... yada yada... It takes up more tme than one would think.
And like its been said. A stable release from Samsung means a stable release for the devs.
Though Im not gonna think twice about flashing 2.3... Can't wait for a working version.
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Good point, but isn't that the U.S. site?
There are plenty of reasons as discussed in these forums. For me I heavily use my phone for business and cannot afford any "hiccups".
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thats understandable but i would say in my experience there are less hiccups with most custom 2.2 roms than there are with either stock 2.1 rom.
Not to mention on the business front Exchange is much more stable and functional for me on the 2.2 roms vs. 2.1 stock.
Axura, Assonance, Chronos all very stable.
I thought the hold up was the carriers on the update. But I think Samsung has been really slow in the release of 2.2. Samsung not AT&T has been the problem all along. Don't you think one of the carriers would have tried to be the first to have their device on 2.2 to sale through the holidays.
more speculation here, but I suspect there has been some back and forth between samsung and att. Like att put it through their testing procees. (we know it is pretty extensive) and asked for a change or two. 'caus I'm pretty convinced that samsung just checks that the phone powers up and gets signal with no care as to the quality of signals it is receiving... I am certainly intrigued to see what they come out with after "working" on it for so long.
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I thought the hold up was the carriers on the update. But I think Samsung has been really slow in the release of 2.2. Samsung not AT&T has been the problem all along. Don't you think one of the carriers would have tried to be the first to have their device on 2.2 to sale through the holidays.
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The carriers don't care that much... OS version as a selling point matters ZERO to most users unless it brings some major feature. Most feature improvements are minor and don't affect most users - they are not hackers or flashers. For every one person visiting phone Forums, there are 10 others that own the phone and just use it.
2.2 has been out for Galaxy S and Armani - so it is really done for the hardware - we haven't seen any Froyo leaks in a while either - the hold up is the carriers - Samsung was probably late getting it to them, and now they have to give it their blessing.
The Vibrant Froyo was released recently but pulled as it corrupted internal storage. So T-Mo was first, and i guess AT&T will be second.
I also think this updated doc is relevant to the Froyo release - we didn't see this doc with the previous Kies Mini update and there was no Emergency recovery option - they are definitely getting ready to push something new.
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I thought the hold up was the carriers on the update. But I think Samsung has been really slow in the release of 2.2. Samsung not AT&T has been the problem all along. Don't you think one of the carriers would have tried to be the first to have their device on 2.2 to sale through the holidays.
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No...certainly not AT&T...they always push the I-phone harder than their Android phones...Can't say for any others selling Galaxy phones though..
Seriously...I use my phone for my work and business as well,and there are quite a few stable 2.2 roms out to use.Hiccups...are always possible...but most times..it's because of a bad install that causes more headaches than anything else..or something left over on the system too. No way in hell would I wait on either Samsung or AT&T for another bloat filled update.Not to mention...all of the bricked phones that happened with Kies last time around...Your much safer getting your upgrade longing filled here..than any OTA update....at least if you get it from here you will get help fixing it...Good luck doing that with AT&T or Samsung...you'll be out a phone for a few days or weeks..
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alphadog00 said:
The carriers don't care that much... OS version as a selling point matters ZERO to most users unless it brings some major feature. Most feature improvements are minor and don't affect most users - they are not hackers or flashers. For every one person visiting phone Forums, there are 10 others that own the phone and just use it.
2.2 has been out for Galaxy S and Armani - so it is really done for the hardware - we haven't seen any Froyo leaks in a while either - the hold up is the carriers - Samsung was probably late getting it to them, and now they have to give it their blessing.
The Vibrant Froyo was released recently but pulled as it corrupted internal storage. So T-Mo was first, and i guess AT&T will be second.
I also think this updated doc is relevant to the Froyo release - we didn't see this doc with the previous Kies Mini update and there was no Emergency recovery option - they are definitely getting ready to push something new.
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Froyo was not released then pulled for the T-Mobile Vibrant. It was released and pulled for the Bell (Canada) Vibrant.
Thought that Sprint's Epic has Froyo released? Or is that just another leak too? Forgot to ask my brother last night (he has the Epic)
None of the US carriers has Froyo update for Galaxy S yet. That tells me it is Samsung that is dragging the feet.
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None of the US carriers has Froyo update for Galaxy S yet. That tells me it is Samsung that is dragging the feet.
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Even if samsung pushed the update to the carriers 2 weeks ago they still have to test it.
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Even if samsung pushed the update to the carriers 2 weeks ago they still have to test it.
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Samsung knows exactly how long carriers need to validate and test the firmware. If they intent to release the Froyo on schedule, they should have pushed the update earlier. After all, carriers test updates from all manufacturers like Motorola and HTC, not just Samsung. If Motorola and HTC can release Froyo, and subsequent patches, in time for their phones, there is no reason Samsung can't if it is capable of.
This just tells you how somethings never change when it comes to firmware update from Samsung.
Then why does AT&T have the Samsung Galaxy Tab available with Android 2.2?
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Then why does AT&T have the Samsung Galaxy Tab available with Android 2.2?
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Because the tab was released with 2.2. It never had to get updated.
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Then why does AT&T have the Samsung Galaxy Tab available with Android 2.2?
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I think you may have answered your own question. It's likely that Samsung put their development resources in the Galaxy Tab and let the phones wait. They already have our money.
With the new entries into the at&t android scene, will the captivate be left behind by the devs? A couple have already picked up new devices, is there cause for concern?
There will be others who step in, and given that you can run vibrant and i9000 roms there will be new stuff going on. The i9000 forum is really where the action is anyway. If hardcore and supercurio move on then I would say you have seen the end of what can be done with the sgs.
Porting vibrant roms, simple kernel/modem swap? Can it be done before and after flash?
Hope not.
@mccord
Yep, I usually boot the rom then flash the kernel and modem. Sometimes it wont work simply swapping them first.
It already has been abandoned. Jump ship while you still can.
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Yep, I usually boot the rom then flash the kernel and modem. Sometimes it wont work simply swapping them first.
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Solid info, any recommendations? ;p
My point in the thread is this, were will development be in a month, what are our options. I9000 and vibrant ports are solid options. I don't think many understand how easy it is to do on their own
It will carry on no matter what. Browse around. Heck there is still stuff going on with devices that are 5 years old and older. So no it will not ever "end"
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With the new entries into the at&t android scene, will the captivate be left behind by the devs? A couple have already picked up new devices, is there cause for concern?
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The new entries that is rolling out now, IMO, doesn't have the "wow" factor for anyone to upgrade and renew for another 2 years or even 1, yes opinion. I just returned my Inspire cause of it.
The Atrix, we will see. Accessories, accessories, accessories...reach deep in the pocket for it. Not worth it, ....we are just talking about a phone.
Samsung Infuse...oh yea... Neveragain.
I predict 3rd quarter, then "man overboard"
Development for these phone are easy for these devs, as long as leaked firmwares keep on popping up, and they have been. We all should be safe for awhile.
Sorry for the rambling...morning java...strong.
But yea, what newter55 said
I don't know if this indicative of how many people actually OWN a captivate, let alone DEVING...but I often find that next to Android development section of the captivate the number of viewing is usually around 300. There's still lots of captivaters, and I don't think everyone is in a position/able to jump ship.
I don't see why people are so worried, I'm looking into getting a Captivate myself. I know it's no Inspire 4G etc etc. But it's still a relatively new device. I know when I started in the WM6 days, people were still making WM5 roms etc for old devices. You will see people still working on them.
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I don't see why people are so worried, I'm looking into getting a Captivate myself. I know it's no Inspire 4G etc etc. But it's still a relatively new device. I know when I started in the WM6 days, people were still making WM5 roms etc for old devices. You will see people still working on them.
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Not worried, there has been a general distaste towards samsung on this section. A couple major devs have already started work on other devices. They will be back fillef I am sure. Just curious to see what direction things go
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Not worried, there has been a general distaste towards samsung on this section. A couple major devs have already started work on other devices. They well be back fillef I am sure. Just curious to see what direction things go
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Oh of course. I have been away for a long while. The last device I owned was a HTC Kaiser. Been with Blackberry since then. The Rhodium in my sig is my mothers that I tweaked for her.
Why do devs not like the Captivate? I've been looking into getting one to be able to learn Android and be as helpful as I was back in my older device days.
gps, no official froyo, quality control issues,rfs file system
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gps, no official froyo, quality control issues,rfs file system
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Interesting. Funny that you mention Quality control, my brothers brand new Captivate's screen went out under a month of getting it. It's like the screen decided not to turn on one day.
I've wondered this myself. I feel like if development will continue after the next 6 months its going to be on cyanogen... but hey. I'm relatively new to android so take what i say with several grains of salt
If the atrix lives up to the hype ill be abandoning my captivate....unlocked bootloader and its over
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I feel that the amount of work the devs are putting into this phone are making it a great device. I switched to an LG Quantum recently (and love it) But thanks to the joys of owning a sim card, I switch to my captivate at least twice a week. Go to the LG Quantum forum, and you'll see why. There isn't much to do. Not much hacking, no OC's, no UC's, just questions like "What case looks prettiest on my phone?" =/
This even applies to the majority of Motorola android phones, especially MOTOBLUR devices. There just isn't that much to do with them. As for the Captivate, there will always be some random, somewhat useless feature we're all going to go gaga over. ("OMG I CAN TAKE PANORAMA SHOTS.... MUST SHARE WITH XDA...") It's just the spirit of the Captivate forum. We're all in the same poorly navigated, highly customizable boat.
*group hug* xP
Well the origianal droid is about as customizable as the galaxy s it has gingerbread already...and honestly up until recently most of the "custom" roms were just bloatware free versions of vibrant or i9000 versions of TW. Andromeda and serendipity and supernova all are themed giving a feeling of something new and fresh....if we could get some aosp builds then this phone would really be great and we would see some true custom roms.....the devs are what's keeping the galaxy s alive.
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*wonders to self how some people ever figure out how to get dressed in the morning*
It seems like we might have a chance of getting it. Engadget has a post up saying all 2.3 devices after.the nexus s should get ICS being that the nexus s is getting it....and we technically have a stock build of android. So I'm keeping my hopes up that we still have a chance of getting it.....what are your thoughts?
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I think if people show some positive encouragement to LG to work with and for purchasers of the p999 rather than the immature hostility that permeates several of the threads at the LG forum an update should happen. It is still and active model in tmos system.
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I was under the impression the G2x runs a stock gingerbread looking skin over LG framework. As in, just looks stock, not actually stock. http://twitter.com/#!/CM_arcee/status/63255644676960256
Seeing how much LG pooped the diaper on the GB update, I wouldn't hold your breath for anything official in the short term.
I thought they are suppose to support the android phones software upto date in period of 18months after they releas3 it? If the phone hardware can support it? Well thats what google said. I don't think lg have choice.
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But the rain came back and the birds stopped singing soon after the Google I/O Day One keynote. Barra’s comments set off a wave of excitement, but only because people misunderstood his words. Google is not forcing carriers or manufacturers to update their phones; it’s simply working with them to make updates faster and more likely.
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http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/
LG doesn't have to do anything.
I would say a G2x ICS update is totally a possibility, I just wouldnt expect LG to drop it anytime soon. Seeing how long it took LG to release GB, if the G2x does get an official update I doubt it would be before next summer.
True,.but I'm hoping some kind of news gets released saying the g2x.will get it
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I don't care what operating system version my G2x is running as long as the radios and/or drivers that control them just don't work.
I've had 4 G2Xes, on 2.2 and 2.3, with multiple sim cards and used them in many areas of the US. They simply do no stay connected to the network. I have to reboot them manually several times a day to maintain connectivity/functionality. The Android part works fine especially since the GB update, but the phone part, and even the WiFi and GPS parts just are flaky as hell. If they don't fix that, putting ICS on this phone will not be any better an experience.
And I'd bet $100 LG never updates this phone again. They are SO washing their hands of it, it's a disaster they don't want to "waste" any more time and money on even if that means screwing thousands of customers. The users know it, LG knows it, T-mobile knows it, but they are not admitting it, because responsibly dealing with this disaster would cost them a fortune. For T-mobile/LG to fix this problem they'd have to send every G2X owner a different model phone that isn't fundamentally flawed.
I wouldn't count on it.
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I don't care what operating system version my G2x is running as long as the radios and/or drivers that control them just don't work.
I've had 4 G2Xes, on 2.2 and 2.3, with multiple sim cards and used them in many areas of the US. They simply do no stay connected to the network. I have to reboot them manually several times a day to maintain connectivity/functionality. The Android part works fine especially since the GB update, but the phone part, and even the WiFi and GPS parts just are flaky as hell. If they don't fix that, putting ICS on this phone will not be any better an experience.
And I'd bet $100 LG never updates this phone again. They are SO washing their hands of it, it's a disaster they don't want to "waste" any more time and money on even if that means screwing thousands of customers. The users know it, LG knows it, T-mobile knows it, but they are not admitting it, because responsibly dealing with this disaster would cost them a fortune. For T-mobile/LG to fix this problem they'd have to send every G2X owner a different model phone that isn't fundamentally flawed.
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My G2x was also a POS I got it (like a fool) the day it came out, and when i first got it it sucked so bad after the second day i had it it went back in the box and sat on the closet shelf and I went back to my Nokia N8 but a month or so ago i got it out and just for the hell i played around with some ROMs and have been running Weapon G2x 2.4 without a single flaw or hiccup since.
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My G2x was also a POS I got it (like a fool) the day it came out, and when i first got it it sucked so bad after the second day i had it it went back in the box and sat on the closet shelf and I went back to my Nokia N8 but a month or so ago i got it out and just for the hell i played around with some ROMs and have been running Weapon G2x 2.4 without a single flaw or hiccup since.
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I have two G2Xes, one with CM7.1 one with stock GB. They both suck at staying connected to the network. Perhaps it's time to try another distro, but I'm pretty convinced the baseband is fundamentally flawed. If I stay in the same place I start to think it's all working, then I drive somewhere and realise how useless this phone is. I wanted to love this phone so much, on paper it's just awesome, perfect for me. In reality it's garbage and I can't wait to be rid of it. I've wasted weeks of my life on this useless thing thinking surely it can be made to work.
I got a G2x early on. Reboots every other day in the beginning, etc.
Now i'm pretty stable, can go more than a week. Just have GPS lock issues.
Rooted, stock GB, using Go Launcher and SetCPU.
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After the GB update I wouldn't hold my breath. Our phones are more than capable of handling ICS, but I doubt we'll see it.
Yeah, it can get ported, but won't work the same.
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My g2x works flawless for me, no hiccups,.always connected to the network....nothing wrong. I came back to the g2x from the mytouch 4g slide because of stock android and the support. I have a good feeling we'll see ICS eventually. If not ill just go prime
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I dunno, the G2x is like the black sheep any more. I don't see anything about it. LGs track record thus far doesn't look good in regards to updates. I bet CM team will get something stable on ICS but your looking at months...
Not a big deal. Well probably have themes and apps that could pretty closely replicate ICS while still using GB. On the nexus one, I used a GB theme on Froyo for a while before actually switching. A nice theme and new Widgets will ease the wait.
I run MIUI and Faux 4.3 and have no network issues what so ever.... that's actually what kept me on MIUI for so long... and now I'm addicted. MIUI works fantastic minus wifi calling.
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I dunno, the G2x is like the black sheep any more. I don't see anything about it. LGs track record thus far doesn't look good in regards to updates. I bet CM team will get something stable on ICS but your looking at months...
Not a big deal. Well probably have themes and apps that could pretty closely replicate ICS while still using GB. On the nexus one, I used a GB theme on Froyo for a while before actually switching. A nice theme and new Widgets will ease the wait.
I run MIUI and Faux 4.3 and have no network issues what so ever.... that's actually what kept me on MIUI for so long... and now I'm addicted. MIUI works fantastic minus wifi calling.
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Miui that good? Man ive been out if the rooting loop for awhile.....whats the benefit of faux kernal?
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I dunno, the G2x is like the black sheep any more. I don't see anything about it. LGs track record thus far doesn't look good in regards to updates. I bet CM team will get something stable on ICS but your looking at months...
Not a big deal. Well probably have themes and apps that could pretty closely replicate ICS while still using GB. On the nexus one, I used a GB theme on Froyo for a while before actually switching. A nice theme and new Widgets will ease the wait.
I run MIUI and Faux 4.3 and have no network issues what so ever.... that's actually what kept me on MIUI for so long... and now I'm addicted. MIUI works fantastic minus wifi calling.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI
Asus Transformer - 3.2 Revolver
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For me MMS doesn't work on MIUI. Only reason I'm not on it.
I agree though, don't think LG will give us the update officially. It's kind of sad that Google is letting it's platforms get so dispersed. I mean both Apple and Microsoft have the updates down-pact.
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For me MMS doesn't work on MIUI. Only reason I'm not on it.
I agree though, don't think LG will give us the update officially. It's kind of sad that Google is letting it's platforms get so dispersed. I mean both Apple and Microsoft have the updates down-pact.
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Both closed platforms, that is the trade off
Which ROM has MMS working?
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For me MMS doesn't work on MIUI. Only reason I'm not on it.
I agree though, don't think LG will give us the update officially. It's kind of sad that Google is letting it's platforms get so dispersed. I mean both Apple and Microsoft have the updates down-pact.
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What ROM are you using? My MMS does not work either, I am on Xboarder's ROM(OTA Tweaked) and whenever I have wifi+2g or wifi+4g I cannot send out an MMS. If I want to send out MMS I have to turn off wifi, switch 2g on, then switch 2g off, then finally stick with 2g or 4g and then TRY to send out the MMS sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
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http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/
LG doesn't have to do anything.
I would say a G2x ICS update is totally a possibility, I just wouldnt expect LG to drop it anytime soon. Seeing how long it took LG to release GB, if the G2x does get an official update I doubt it would be before next summer.
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how can you say LG took long to update to Gingerbread. i still have my vibrant and galaxy s 4g and their still have not yet come out with gingerbread on them. imagine that after over a year.
lets see the g2x came out on april 20th
and gingerbread was july 15th
thats 85 days thats 4 months since it released date
i think LG was pretty fast with the update.
comparing to others brands
my g2x never had any problems at all
So what you guys are saying is I should return my G2X? ha I live in Milwaukee, WI and have heard good things about tmobile, why I switched and 4G is stable here. I'm still in my 14 day window and just wondering if anyone thinks I should get a better phone?
Well as you all may know, LG claims korean devices will get ics. We have been holding our breathe for a long time, suprised we are not all dead yet. Regardless, what does everyone think about the g2x and the current development that is going on? I myself am quite frustrated with it. I can get jellybean to build but it is still very much broken, and I refuse to release something that turns my device into a paperweight. I will open source my stuff before too much longer, just to see what others can do, but I do not see many people, deving, modding or even themeing anymore.
I personally like my g2x it stomps my galaxy nexus in quadrants (which means nothing, I just like the big numbers) but it also seems to handle games alot better. I have been through 6 defective ones but, I still hang on to it. I have sold all my other devices besides my nexus and my g2x.
I am sure I got off on the wrong foot with some people, however everything I said came true. Certain teams claimed other teams work as their own and refused to submit their minute changes upstream as required by the gpl they claim protects their rebranded work and now all further development has stopped. The more people that work on something the better off the chances are for success but yea.....anywho
This is not intended to be a flame thread or an i told you so thread. This is intended to find out what everyone thinks of the current development and state of their phone. I want to know what the average user would like to see. What is everyone looking for besides the perfect jellybean/ics rom because none of them will be perfect untill LG gets off its ass.
Sold. Got a Galaxy Nexus enjoying a 100% working ROM of Jelleybean 4.1
I am getting a Samsung Galaxy III when I come back from vacation.
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I don't mind if I don't get ICS, cm7 is stable as hell (using kameask or however you spell it), plus faux keeps up with kernels.
V6 super charger makes it twice as snappy, and testing out swapper again just to see.
But regardless, this phone does everything it needs to do at a very good pace. I don't mind if it doesn't get ICS . There isn't much benefit over it then what we have now.
I love the phone and the support from the community but despise the neglect from LG/nVidia. I was running different ROMs until I needed full bluetooth support on the v21y baseband so now I'm back on stock Gingerbread :-\
I bought this phone on contract with intentions of it being future proof and lasting the full 2 years. A year into my contract and the specs are still great on paper. A little bit more RAM would be nice but I can work with it. Just please LG, hook us up with ICS. I don't really want to cough up 400 bucks for a Galaxy Nexus...
I love my g2x...I have been messing around with Harsh's kernel for CM 7...(I even got a OC/UV version...hehe)...I thought about making a CM7 kang (with tweaks and what not)...or an AOSP GB ROM...but right now I'm in school...and debating if I should put the time and effort into development...I don't mind...I'm still learning about how kernels works...and would love to develop something (or at least help out) for our devices...
I like my g2x a lot. Bought it off eBay 7 months ago and have been impressed with the power this thing has. I am very distrought that we are 2 versions of android behind. Yes we have ICS but its not to the level of perfection I need and thus am still on GB. This is my 3rd android phone and I have never fallen this behind thanks to devs of xda.
I understand the driver/source code issues that are holding us back. If we can get a port of our Korean counterpart's ICS, then I will most likely just hold onto this phone for awhile longer.
My contract us up in 3 months and I could save money by going to a monthly plan. If we can't get fully functioning ICS though, I'll be hopping on the note 2. I'm getting the note 2 regardless, but would just like to wait till the right deal comes along instead of paying top dollar.
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There are still some ports showing up, but I see 2 things being a barrier to more/better dev activity -
1) Driver availability. Both ICS and GB. ICS ROMs are stuck on things needing HW acceleration, for example. The Froyo camera is almost fully ported to 2.3+ but not exactly. JB - even more so.
2) In call BT audio for new BB. Even though we can flash to have custom ROMs work with v21y, this function is still not working. That is a big reason why I have quit flashing the past few months.
I do like the phone and will keep it until it breaks.
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I love my g2x but its lagging seriously since i got it up too 132 using gps but running your rooted stock. My phone only likes stock roms cm based just force close everything. But ill keep it tell it dies
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I don't attempt to run ics or jb roms anymore, they still seem unstable. But I am quite content with gb, though I still haven't found a rom+kernel that solves everything. Either it lags or I get SOD/overheating. So far I like cm7 nightlies best, don't know which kernel to go with though.
Galaxy Nexus is on it's way. My G2X is just too buggy, but I am going to keep it as a backup. Plus I want to go to an unsubsidized plan as the rates are much cheaper. For the same price I pay now I can get unlimited talk, text and data, plus hotspot (which I am not paying for now but have been warned that it will soon be an additional $15/month). I make back the cost of the GNEX in one year with the better service and reduced rate.
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I don't mind if I don't get ICS, cm7 is stable as hell (using kameask or however you spell it), plus faux keeps up with kernels.
V6 super charger makes it twice as snappy, and testing out swapper again just to see.
But regardless, this phone does everything it needs to do at a very good pace. I don't mind if it doesn't get ICS . There isn't much benefit over it then what we have now.
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I like Kwes and BuruRom rooted stock in addition to Temasek's CM7. I've got my phone figured out. If/when (on CM7 based roms) data drops or MMS bugs cause me frustration, I just restore Nandroid back-ups of those rooted stock version(s). If I need to drive an HD movie out the HDMI port for my kids in the backseat, I have better results with Morfic's kernel/CM7. Yeah, the phone runs hot (gets unstable) when pushed hard. It still does all I ask of it - day in, day out. I plan to make it work till I am eligible to upgrade. I hope my replacement for my G2x won't need to be any bigger. I miss the days of being able to forget my cell phone is in my jeans pocket!
I am waiting for a new nexus phone to come out and i am going to buy that and ditch the g2x. I am still running Bionix Reloaded because it is the best rom I have found to date and I have no reason to switch. I tried some ICS roms but my battery died in a few hours and I barley got a data connection. I appreciate all of the hard work and development with the G2X but LG killed it by not releasing drivers. I find it really sad because the G2X is such a powerful phone. I think it is still competitive with current phones that are being released with the software being the only exception. I told myself I will never purchase a new phone unless it is a nexus phone due to the fact that they will get updates.
LG definitely lost my business for a long time.
Personally
I would love to develop for the G2x(I'm learning, but just barely) , but I can't see much that I am capable of doing right now. I'm gonna cook versions of CM7 and play with building kernels. We are in a holding pattern until the nVidia drivers come forward or the CM7 bluetooth thing gets resolved.
Going to keep the phone until at least Christmas, even later probably. My Nexus 7 has made my g2x have great battery life!
Sent from my paranoid Nexus 7.
Lol... I got my nexus 2 or 3 weeks ago and swore I would sell my g2x ( at one point I was contemplating having my friends form a firing line directly at the phone. Then sending the video to lg and nvidia, interrupted by Linus giving them the finger.) But I haven't. I really love the phone to be honest. I was lucky enough to get one without major screen bleed and it has only locked up on me twice (PC/UV kernels).. I'm seriously contemplating keeping it as a back up phone.
I do wish that nvidia and lg would hurry up with the update so I could play around with fully functioning jb Roms, but since I know nothing about coding, I'm no help.
I also notice fewer and fewer devs working on it. I hope they are just waiting for the drivers tho.
So all in all, I still have the phone, even though I have moved on.
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No more Korean phones
kwes1020 said:
...what is everyone looking for besides the perfect jellybean/ics rom because none of them will be perfect untill LG gets off its ass.
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Thanks for OP posing this topic. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the contributors in G2X sections, it has benefit me as a Wind Mobile customer in Canada.
I am am not looking for the next new Android OS, I just want a custom ROM that has little or no bloat-wear that is very stable and utilizes the phone's fullest potential. LG /or Wind Mobile has abandon the upgrade to our phone and it is stuck at 2.2.2. We screamed, we yelled, we petitioned and its not going any where. Therefore I will not buy/support any Korean manufactured phones in the future.
So, please keep up the good work.
Thank you,
Cody
cody168 said:
Thanks for OP posing this topic. I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the contributors in G2X sections, it has benefit me as a Wind Mobile customer in Canada.
I am am not looking for the next new Android OS, I just want a custom ROM that has little or no bloat-wear that is very stable and utilizes the phone's fullest potential. LG /or Wind Mobile has abandon the upgrade to our phone and it is stuck at 2.2.2. We screamed, we yelled, we petitioned and its not going any where. Therefore I will not buy/support any Korean manufactured phones in the future.
So, please keep up the good work.
Thank you,
Cody
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Agreed, the devs here have done a wonderful job. Though I don't blame them for moving to another device.
I am running ics(hellfire sandwich) on g2x. Except the camera everything seems to work. Waiting for jellybean. I dont think i will change my phone atleast this year. All the games run well. I am dissapointed cuz we are being ignored by lg and nvidia.
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