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TB for Music or stick to the iPod?

SO currently I use my ipod touch for music, and I also use itunes. However, I thought about using my TB as my music player, here are some questions:
1. How big of a pain is it to get music on
2. Rhapsody or iTunes (library is on itunes, never used rhapsody)?
3. Possibly my biggest question is quality. I have run Pandora on my TB and the quality is much lower than that of an iPod (understandable as its a radio frequency). However my point is, if I have to run songs on my TB at VOL 50 instead of VOL 40 in my car to adjust to the quality and get the bass up, then I am not sure the TB is the best music player. With that said, whats your experience with the quality?

I use my TB exclusively for music, thanks to Google Music. Haven't had an issue with quality with my Sennheisers, but YMMV.
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CC268 said:
1. How big of a pain is it to get music on
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Simple, Connect your phone to your PC, and copy the music you want to your SD card.
CC268 said:
2. Rhapsody or iTunes (library is on itunes, never used rhapsody)?
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You don't have to use a certain program to sync, you can if you choose to, there are many out there, I don't sync my music so I can't help there.
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3. Possibly my biggest question is quality. I have run Pandora on my TB and the quality is much lower than that of an iPod (understandable as its a radio frequency). However my point is, if I have to run songs on my TB at VOL 50 instead of VOL 40 in my car to adjust to the quality and get the bass up, then I am not sure the TB is the best music player. With that said, whats your experience with the quality?
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I connect it via the 3.5mm jack to the aux in 3.5mm jack in my 09 jeep with a monster audio cable. Things sound great to me, especially using the SRS enhancement with the stock music player. Bass is nice, not crackly like you would get with an FM transmitter, I would honestly say it is at least CD quality. But all my music is ripped at a high VBR or 320kbps.

There are apps that will let you sync your iTunes library to your Android device, do some Googling.
If you are used to using your iPod for music then I don't think you are going to like the interface.
I miss having my iPod Touch but I refuses to carry separate device just for music.
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All my music needs are fulfilled with slacker radios caching. It allows me to save 100's of songs on my phone and play them without needing a data connection. Bad part for some would be you can't pick what song to hear unless you have the higher paid account. For 4.99 a month I just cache my favorite stations for all my music needs.

ddgarcia05 said:
All my music needs are fulfilled with slacker radios caching. It allows me to save 100's of songs on my phone and play them without needing a data connection. Bad part for some would be you can't pick what song to hear unless you have the higher paid account. For 4.99 a month I just cache my favorite stations for all my music needs.
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Subsonic can do that also, think it's a one time $10 donation for unlimited use. Can stream pretty much any type of media on your computer.

Check out Audiogalaxy. It's a free app that streams your *entire* music library from your desktop/media server to your phone. If you are in a 4G area, it streams without compressing. I have an ipod classic but I rarely use it anymore. Streaming via AG is more convenient & sounds just as good.
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If you are going to listen to your own music on the thunderbolt, i would strongly recommend buying power amp. That player will allow you to drive the actually good audio hardware to its limits, dropped my old mp3 player faster than a sack of rocks after i started using poweramp

Haven't used my iPod in forever... I use the following:
Slacker: When I want to stream and/or listen for new bands...
Subsonic/Google Music: When I want to listen to my personal music collection (which is too big to fit on any size device right now).
PowerAMP: For cahced music.
Now Google Music is not that great right now (Subsonic is better IMHO) because it is picky about some of the music I have and won't upload it. Subsonic turns your computer into the music server so you don't have to upload anything, you just have to asign your computer a static IP and keep it on.
I love PowerAMP for the quality of play so I will usually use Subsonic or GM to cache (or download) some songs and then play them with PowerAMP, since the Subsonic and GM players don't hold a candle to PowerAMP.

Deltaechoe said:
If you are going to listen to your own music on the thunderbolt, i would strongly recommend buying power amp. That player will allow you to drive the actually good audio hardware to its limits, dropped my old mp3 player faster than a sack of rocks after i started using poweramp
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+!000000000000000000
I just installed PowerAmp...Holy Crap! This sounds great, I most definitely second this statement.

Deltaechoe said:
If you are going to listen to your own music on the thunderbolt, i would strongly recommend buying power amp. That player will allow you to drive the actually good audio hardware to its limits, dropped my old mp3 player faster than a sack of rocks after i started using poweramp
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+1
After reading the last couple comments, I downloaded the trial, listened to 2 songs, tweaked the EQ and settings, and listened again, and then bought the unlocker, this is an amazing music player.

Don't forget that the thunderbolt is compatible with DHS enhancements

Thanks a lot for the responses guys, I will try your suggestions and test it out!

The srs in the htc music app is amazing, especially with in ear headphones
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Just installed full version of power amp, how should I transfer my itunes music to my phone? I dont know that I would like to keep using itunes, waiting for google music beta invitation so I can start using that

I use the ipod only because there is no good way to connect it with my car radio that doesn't leave a bunch of wires all over the place... I've emailed HTC about a bottom connector but they weren't to receptive to it.
Again I know I could do it with the phone, but having that bottom connector on the ipod allows me to have it in my car and hidden without a bunch of wires all over the place.
+1 for subsonic, donated to that project and use it all the time... everywhere!

I use iTunes as well and use the Thunderbolt for my music player.
iSyncr (and/or iSyncr WiFi) syncs itunes music including playlists so it is very easy to set up. Use Bluetooth in my car; not missing anything from when I used an iPhone/iPod. It even syncs playcounts if you have Last.FM scrobbling.

06ms6 said:
I use iTunes as well and use the Thunderbolt for my music player.
iSyncr (and/or iSyncr WiFi) syncs itunes music including playlists so it is very easy to set up. Use Bluetooth in my car; not missing anything from when I used an iPhone/iPod. It even syncs playcounts if you have Last.FM scrobbling.
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iSyncr is the way to go. It's what I use to get my music on the Bolt.

If you're not concerned about the battery, I wouldn't use your iPod anymore. PowerAmp does just fine as a music player.

I use Google Music and upload to the cloud

Music Setup

I don't think there is a lot of discussion about this, so I thought i would start one. Good evening, my name is Gregg and I am a recovering Ioser. It started out with just an ipod...you know it was convenient, it was shiny. It worked well. Buying music was a simple process. You clicked and could listen immediatly. At first it was just occasionally, but I got into the podcast scene and itseemed to fit me perfectly. Podcasts would let me listen to things while I was doing chores around the house. Eventually though podcasts on my ipod weren't enough for me. I also had to carry around a phone on the side, so I decided that maybe it would be OK to try a little iphone. The first click was awesome...phone and tunes...podcasts done well. I was hooked.
For two years I was doing a lot of Ios, but eventually the shiny IOS had me hooked. There were bills for apps that did nothing but make funny noises, their was music that I paid for but never listened to. I was hooked. I probably hit rock-bottom last year. My iosing was out of control and I thought I would go cold turkey. So I got my G2x.
Sorry for the goofy intro, but I though this would set me up a bit. Here's what I have itunes on the windows side. So getting music and podcasts from itunes to the g2X involves multiple layers.
1. Moving music to the machine.
2. Moving and managing podcasts
3. Playing and managing music (which includes playing, rating music and searchng through my music)
So I will start with the first question. From what I understand there are really two ways that I know of to move music and podcasts from itunes to your phone. One is doubletwist, the other is isyncr. There might be others, but these are the two that I worked with. of the two I went with iSyncr and here's why. Doubletwist has a lot going for it. Really a nice interface, and a nice music player on the android side. Its trying very hard to give me, an ex-ioser a bit of what I am missing. The sync app looks like itunes and allows me to sync my playlists. The app looks a lot like itunes. It plays music fine. The player struggled with my phone, though. Somehow it didn't cooperate with the cm7 ROM I am using. It wouldn't play well on the lock screen and seemed buggy. The syncing was buggy too. Genius podcasts wouldn't refresh when they changed on my itunes. There were workaround(relaunch itunes and doubletwist).
Isyncr is a 2.99 purchase. Its simple. You install the app on the android(you pretty much install and forget it) and it syncs when you launch the windows EXE on the memory card when the phone is docked to the computer. It works well. It syncs podcasts, and ratings. To me, that was important because I have this theory that I will rate my music into organization in itunes.Its flawless. I haven't tried the wifi setup, but I might in the future. It doesn't play your music, so its just a solution for syncing.
As for podcasts, I tried very hardto find a solution on the android side that will satisfy my needs right on the android. I bought the full version of pocketcasts. There are a lot of good things going for it, but there are bugs. One that was kind of a deal breaker was that if you try to advance the podcast in the player while its playing you lock up the app. Restart is the only solution. So, it was a good, pretty solution, but it had to go. I tried a couple other apps, but I wasn't sold.
So, ultimately, isyncr is my solution for podcasts too. It woks well, but it will require a daily sync. The advantage ultimatley of syncing from the desktop is also that I am able to make Mp3 CDs of podcasts as well as sync my podcasts from the same source. Simple, efficient and workable.
Which brings me to playing. I love google music(I have two more invites if anyone wants one), and it allows me to access my music when I am around wifi seamlessly. It allows me to make instant mixes based on a song. That's a killer feature. Combined with wireless access to all my music via the cloud its excellent. Advancing and moving within tracks and podcasts works well. Its not a full-feature app, but it works.
Almost there, there is one last aspect. I would like to rate music from my library while its playing. Isyncr has a nice widget that allows you to rate and see your playing apps and see the album art. Its part of the package. The ratings and playcounts go right back to itunes.
My preferences represent my unique quirks in terms of music and listening: I am a podcaster and a music listener and I prefer to rate my music. Because of this I am happy with: Isyncr and google music.
Long set-up, but ultimately I am asking you what your music listening setup is. Thoughts?

I use the standard music app since it has DTS for the g2x. Google music as well for some streaming music. Google Listen app for podcasts. I also like BeyondPod.
I drag and drop music. It's not fancy but I don't mind.

Power Amp with some EQ modifications and Voodoo Sound is how I enjoy my music. I used to use Doubletwist for syncing my music to my phone, but each update made more and more bloated, along with random freezes, so I just uninstalled it. Sony's Media Go software good is good for adding music, but I prefer to drag and drop into organized folders.
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If you're using a stock ROM, I'd recommend sticking to the stock player because of it's DTS feature. It greatly improves sound quality if you have it selected.

Music Storage

What is the best to store music. I have double twist, but it is a pain to sync my checked songs in Itunes. I am coming from a iphone, had one since 08. I also uploaded most of my music I listen to to Google Music. Is that the easiest? I am afraid with double twist it will sync all of my music. Also will stock music app play songs that I have on Google Music?
Thank

I have DoubleTwist, but I only use it for AirPlay, not for syncing, so I can't speak on that part.
The Play Music (Google Music) player is the only player that will stream your Google Music from the cloud. However, within Play Music, you can download songs to your device. At that point you need a third-party app to convert the downloaded Google Music songs to regular mp3's for use with other apps like the stock app or DoubleTwist.
Sorry, I can't recall what any of these third-party apps are called, but if you google around, you should be able to find them.

If you want to keep music on your phone (which is of course handy for when you don't have a data connection), I use Syncr, which seems to have an easier interface, and less buggy than DoubleTwist. I just dump the music I want into playlists, and sync the playlists to my phone using Syncr.
Haven't used Doubletwist in a while. But when I did, it seemed that more times than not, it would try to synch all my music to my phone, regardless of the fact that I indicated to only sync certain playlists. Since I have something like 40+ GB of music, it lock up my computer, and fail to sync successfully anyway (since there is obviously not enough storage on the phone). Then I would have to start over synching, and on subsequent attempts, it would finally do what I wanted.

I find the solution I use to be quite useful and actually pretty awesome.
I've uploaded my entire music collection to Google Music. Yeah, it takes a while, but just leave your computer on for a couple of nights and it will finish.
Next, I made sure everything was well-organized. I only keep complete albums (like buying a CD), so sometimes there will be a song or two that need to be manually grouped into the album. Do this!
And finally, go into the Google Music app for your phone, select a few albums, and make them 'Available Offline'. It takes a minute or so to get an entire album transferred onto the device. Make sure you do this while on WiFi.
Since my phone can't hold all of my music, I select about 10 albums or so- more than I can realistically listen to while I'm out, and swap in/out albums when I get new ones or want to listen to something else.
It's also pretty useful if you stumble into anywhere with WiFi and want to listen to your entire music collection- something a lot of us cannot do even with 32GB phone storage. You can also make some more music 'Available Offline' when you find WiFi out in the wild.
This has worked wonders for me so far.

So does Google music not let others tie into their service? Big disappointment IMO, I am coming from windows phone and iPhone that have these app silos. Android has a file system and I thought this could be avoided.
I want to use the new HTC Music Hub and at first thought that it was going to tie-in from Google music and bring down all of my music as well as tie-in with local music I have on the phone. Which I am realizing is not the case. All the HTC Music Hub is going to do it let me launch Google music... Disappointing
New question though. Can Google Music two-way sync from the phone? Let's say I download an album from the internet onto my phone. If I put it in a certain folder will it sync? or is there an option in Google Music to upload music from the phone to Google Music?
And last but not least, can the Google Music player play music stored locally on the phone?

You can only add songs to Google Music from your computer, for now.
If you make music 'Available Offline', it becomes stored locally and you can listen to it without an internet connection.
You cannot use Google Music to listen to non-Goolge Music locally stored music.

danada said:
I find the solution I use to be quite useful and actually pretty awesome.
I've uploaded my entire music collection to Google Music. Yeah, it takes a while, but just leave your computer on for a couple of nights and it will finish.
Next, I made sure everything was well-organized. I only keep complete albums (like buying a CD), so sometimes there will be a song or two that need to be manually grouped into the album. Do this!
And finally, go into the Google Music app for your phone, select a few albums, and make them 'Available Offline'. It takes a minute or so to get an entire album transferred onto the device. Make sure you do this while on WiFi.
Since my phone can't hold all of my music, I select about 10 albums or so- more than I can realistically listen to while I'm out, and swap in/out albums when I get new ones or want to listen to something else.
It's also pretty useful if you stumble into anywhere with WiFi and want to listen to your entire music collection- something a lot of us cannot do even with 32GB phone storage. You can also make some more music 'Available Offline' when you find WiFi out in the wild.
This has worked wonders for me so far.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking of doing if I get the One X. Some questions...
Is is simple to swap in/out albums for offline listening? (When on wi-fi.)
So the music is stored locally when downloaded for offline listening? For the One X would that mean the 'phone storage'? (The 9.8 available for media.)
Any idea how long it would take over wi-fi if I hypothetically chose 6 GB of music to download for offline listening?
How well organized is your music once you use the Google Music app? Any bugs? (Songs missing, artist listed twice, anything else.)
Thanks in advance for your answers.

Best Music App since only 16gb

I'm sure for most of us this is our first device with non-removable storage. Welcome to iphone-ville territory (WHY HTC?). Anyway, for those of us who enjoy music on a regular basis and prefer not to store all of our music on the phone, what app do you use to cloud-sync? I've tried google music but it seems limited and the upload is very slow. So what is your preferred method to listen to music?

Pandora and Grooveshark!

those apps are good for random playlists. But im talking about your own personal music library. I like the htc music app, but its useless if I can't store my entire music library.

Google Music upload is slow? Are you kidding me? I mean, maybe the initial upload - but after that, it's super fast and auto adds songs you add to your music collection instantly. I love it.

I like and pay for Spotify.
It integrates my itunes collection including playlists and I can sync whatever I want for offline playback.

I pay for Spotify as well and Im coming from Zune marketplace, of which I loved! Spotify is just as good imo and I don't find that it sucks my battery dry within an hour either.

Google Music and Spotify.

Off topic slightly but since some of use google music where and how does it store music for off line listening? Does it store them as actual MP3 files or something else and how do remove them when no longer wanted? Thanks in advance
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Off topic slightly but since some of use google music where and how does it store music for off line listening? Does it store them as actual MP3 files or something else and how do remove them when no longer wanted? Thanks in advance
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Not sure how it is stored, but basically you go to the Music app, then you hold down on an album, hit "Make availible offline" and it downloads is somewhere. Then after you want to delete it, hold down on it again, and uncheck "Make availible offline" Its really awesome, try it out if you haven't already.

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Google Music upload is slow? Are you kidding me? I mean, maybe the initial upload - but after that, it's super fast and auto adds songs you add to your music collection instantly. I love it.
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yeah thats what im referring to when I speak of uploading. Good to know it gets faster because that was my only issue with google music.

Audiogalaxy hands down. The best sound quality out there (IF YOU HAVE A GOOD QUALITY LIBRARY) You stream your own personal library from home. You can log in from any computer anywhere and have your playlists and library. it caches wonderfully. sounds better than pandora, slacker, tune in, iheart, lastfm all of them. All my music is either lossless or itunes aac highest quality and it sounds amazing. It uses your itunes playlist also. the best thing is its FREE! 5 of my friends are logged in to my library at all times.. its in the market.. Audiogalaxy

yeah I just downloaded audiogalaxy. It uploads alot faster than google music. Liking it alot so far

Check Amazon MP3 player.

Audio galaxy is OK if your fine with being the server ... instead of Google...
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amazon got my monies ages ago with prime, and then they released their mp3 service before google. I honestly don't like how google music adds random tracks based on your "likes" I have a zune and zune pass, when I wanna explore I do it there.
I download all my music from zune and then upload the mp3s to amazon and call it a day.
I keep a solid 2gb on my phone, the rest is easily streamed with my unlimited LTE plan, and if you root and install either rogers or asia rom (I have asia) you don't even have to worry about att throttling your data

google play music

Can anyone tell me if the gear s3 is able to stream Google play music? Or is compatible with the Google play music app??

I think it should be working on any default music player on device, as mine can control the spotify without any problems

I can control the music from my phone while it's playing music via Google play but I don't think it can stream directly to the watch. I was glad it's able to do that at the least. You can play, pause, and skip songs, view the song list, and even control the volume.

Spotify will be released mid December for our watches

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I can control the music from my phone while it's playing music via Google play but I don't think it can stream directly to the watch. I was glad it's able to do that at the least. You can play, pause, and skip songs, view the song list, and even control the volume.
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Okay, thank you!

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Spotify will be released mid December for our watches
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I have a personal beef with Spotify. (Somebody hacked my account. They can restore playlists, but not my "Liked or Added" music. Apparently those aren't playlists. Long story short I lost about a year and a half of collected music. So yeah....
Anybody know if there is word or intent to bring GPM to the S3? It's nice to at least be able to control the music with our watch when it's playing from the phone, but, would be REALLY nice if I could just leave the phone at home and stream GPM while out and about. Kind of why I got the LTE variant in the first place.
Furthermore, does anybody know if spotify and potentially GPM, will use up the data allotment or will that also fall under tmobiles free music streaming thing?

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I have a personal beef with Spotify. (Somebody hacked my account. They can restore playlists, but not my "Liked or Added" music. Apparently those aren't playlists. Long story short I lost about a year and a half of collected music. So yeah....
Anybody know if there is word or intent to bring GPM to the S3? It's nice to at least be able to control the music with our watch when it's playing from the phone, but, would be REALLY nice if I could just leave the phone at home and stream GPM while out and about. Kind of why I got the LTE variant in the first place.
Furthermore, does anybody know if spotify and potentially GPM, will use up the data allotment or will that also fall under tmobiles free music streaming thing?
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I would love to know the same, I just got the subscription for Google play music and don't want to be tied down to just Spotify.
And with the data, my plan on T-Mobile is unlimited everything, for just $5 more than the 500mb plan. I'm not savvy on their plan details as I have only been a customer since Wednesday.

I can control Play Music from my watch with the music playing through my phone speaker. I haven't tried using the watch speaker.

Same issur: would like to take my gpm playlist standalone on the s3 for workout amd peave the phone at home. Until now not possible. Except maybe by physically downloading the playlust to sd card of the phone (i think there are apps for this) and then transfer to s3 via gear companion app... Complicated.

Come on guys - its never going to happen. This isn't like iOS where there's a huge market lead. And without an api there's no way for someone else to code it as well.

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Come on guys - its never going to happen. This isn't like iOS where there's a huge market lead. And without an api there's no way for someone else to code it as well.
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THere is an API that at least someone knows, you can download any song in your library (even subscription songs) using an app on the play store called Cloud Music Importer. If you can view your library, and download the songs, its got an api.

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I can control the music from my phone while it's playing music via Google play but I don't think it can stream directly to the watch. I was glad it's able to do that at the least. You can play, pause, and skip songs, view the song list, and even control the volume.
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Can you select a playlist from your watch? I like this feature on my Android wear device and it would be nice if the Gear also can do that.

nik_rex said:
Can you select a playlist from your watch? I like this feature on my Android wear device and it would be nice if the Gear also can do that.
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Here's a screenshot of what it can do. The phone looking icon changes audio source from phone to watch, and the open app option allows​ you to see the list of songs in your current playlist. I don't see any option for selecting the playlist though, its always showed me the last song that I've streamed.

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Here's a screenshot of what it can do. The phone looking icon changes audio source from phone to watch, and the open app option allows​ you to see the list of songs in your current playlist. I don't see any option for selecting the playlist though, its always showed me the last song that I've streamed.
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Okay thank you

Download the app Music Mate to your phone. It lets you get the songs off of Google music as standard MP3 files. You can then Port them to your phone.
Music Mate is free for a few songs and then there's a fairly low purchase price for unlimited downloads.

Yes Gear S3 Streams Google play Music
YES -- absolutely -- by default

Is there a way to save downloaded music from Google Play Music to the Gear S3?

Save only phone

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sapien.android.musicmate
Thx me later

vijay.alapati said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sapien.android.musicmate
Thx me later
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How do you then get the music onto the watch?
My GWA2 only has an option to 'automatically sync' in the Gear app. The problem with this is it brings over all the voice messages from my Telegram group chats, and also the tracks I use to sleep to (10 hours of white noise) which basically fills the watch up immediately.