TB for Music or stick to the iPod? - Thunderbolt General

SO currently I use my ipod touch for music, and I also use itunes. However, I thought about using my TB as my music player, here are some questions:
1. How big of a pain is it to get music on
2. Rhapsody or iTunes (library is on itunes, never used rhapsody)?
3. Possibly my biggest question is quality. I have run Pandora on my TB and the quality is much lower than that of an iPod (understandable as its a radio frequency). However my point is, if I have to run songs on my TB at VOL 50 instead of VOL 40 in my car to adjust to the quality and get the bass up, then I am not sure the TB is the best music player. With that said, whats your experience with the quality?

I use my TB exclusively for music, thanks to Google Music. Haven't had an issue with quality with my Sennheisers, but YMMV.
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CC268 said:
1. How big of a pain is it to get music on
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Simple, Connect your phone to your PC, and copy the music you want to your SD card.
CC268 said:
2. Rhapsody or iTunes (library is on itunes, never used rhapsody)?
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You don't have to use a certain program to sync, you can if you choose to, there are many out there, I don't sync my music so I can't help there.
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3. Possibly my biggest question is quality. I have run Pandora on my TB and the quality is much lower than that of an iPod (understandable as its a radio frequency). However my point is, if I have to run songs on my TB at VOL 50 instead of VOL 40 in my car to adjust to the quality and get the bass up, then I am not sure the TB is the best music player. With that said, whats your experience with the quality?
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I connect it via the 3.5mm jack to the aux in 3.5mm jack in my 09 jeep with a monster audio cable. Things sound great to me, especially using the SRS enhancement with the stock music player. Bass is nice, not crackly like you would get with an FM transmitter, I would honestly say it is at least CD quality. But all my music is ripped at a high VBR or 320kbps.

There are apps that will let you sync your iTunes library to your Android device, do some Googling.
If you are used to using your iPod for music then I don't think you are going to like the interface.
I miss having my iPod Touch but I refuses to carry separate device just for music.
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All my music needs are fulfilled with slacker radios caching. It allows me to save 100's of songs on my phone and play them without needing a data connection. Bad part for some would be you can't pick what song to hear unless you have the higher paid account. For 4.99 a month I just cache my favorite stations for all my music needs.

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All my music needs are fulfilled with slacker radios caching. It allows me to save 100's of songs on my phone and play them without needing a data connection. Bad part for some would be you can't pick what song to hear unless you have the higher paid account. For 4.99 a month I just cache my favorite stations for all my music needs.
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Subsonic can do that also, think it's a one time $10 donation for unlimited use. Can stream pretty much any type of media on your computer.

Check out Audiogalaxy. It's a free app that streams your *entire* music library from your desktop/media server to your phone. If you are in a 4G area, it streams without compressing. I have an ipod classic but I rarely use it anymore. Streaming via AG is more convenient & sounds just as good.
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If you are going to listen to your own music on the thunderbolt, i would strongly recommend buying power amp. That player will allow you to drive the actually good audio hardware to its limits, dropped my old mp3 player faster than a sack of rocks after i started using poweramp

Haven't used my iPod in forever... I use the following:
Slacker: When I want to stream and/or listen for new bands...
Subsonic/Google Music: When I want to listen to my personal music collection (which is too big to fit on any size device right now).
PowerAMP: For cahced music.
Now Google Music is not that great right now (Subsonic is better IMHO) because it is picky about some of the music I have and won't upload it. Subsonic turns your computer into the music server so you don't have to upload anything, you just have to asign your computer a static IP and keep it on.
I love PowerAMP for the quality of play so I will usually use Subsonic or GM to cache (or download) some songs and then play them with PowerAMP, since the Subsonic and GM players don't hold a candle to PowerAMP.

Deltaechoe said:
If you are going to listen to your own music on the thunderbolt, i would strongly recommend buying power amp. That player will allow you to drive the actually good audio hardware to its limits, dropped my old mp3 player faster than a sack of rocks after i started using poweramp
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+!000000000000000000
I just installed PowerAmp...Holy Crap! This sounds great, I most definitely second this statement.

Deltaechoe said:
If you are going to listen to your own music on the thunderbolt, i would strongly recommend buying power amp. That player will allow you to drive the actually good audio hardware to its limits, dropped my old mp3 player faster than a sack of rocks after i started using poweramp
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After reading the last couple comments, I downloaded the trial, listened to 2 songs, tweaked the EQ and settings, and listened again, and then bought the unlocker, this is an amazing music player.

Don't forget that the thunderbolt is compatible with DHS enhancements

Thanks a lot for the responses guys, I will try your suggestions and test it out!

The srs in the htc music app is amazing, especially with in ear headphones
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Just installed full version of power amp, how should I transfer my itunes music to my phone? I dont know that I would like to keep using itunes, waiting for google music beta invitation so I can start using that

I use the ipod only because there is no good way to connect it with my car radio that doesn't leave a bunch of wires all over the place... I've emailed HTC about a bottom connector but they weren't to receptive to it.
Again I know I could do it with the phone, but having that bottom connector on the ipod allows me to have it in my car and hidden without a bunch of wires all over the place.
+1 for subsonic, donated to that project and use it all the time... everywhere!

I use iTunes as well and use the Thunderbolt for my music player.
iSyncr (and/or iSyncr WiFi) syncs itunes music including playlists so it is very easy to set up. Use Bluetooth in my car; not missing anything from when I used an iPhone/iPod. It even syncs playcounts if you have Last.FM scrobbling.

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I use iTunes as well and use the Thunderbolt for my music player.
iSyncr (and/or iSyncr WiFi) syncs itunes music including playlists so it is very easy to set up. Use Bluetooth in my car; not missing anything from when I used an iPhone/iPod. It even syncs playcounts if you have Last.FM scrobbling.
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iSyncr is the way to go. It's what I use to get my music on the Bolt.

If you're not concerned about the battery, I wouldn't use your iPod anymore. PowerAmp does just fine as a music player.

I use Google Music and upload to the cloud

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[Q] good/best EQ for music playback?

I regularly connect my phone(Incredible 2) to my car stereo via the AUX cable to play music. I've noticed when I compare an Ipod Touch to my phone, the sound quality isn't as good... even when using the Ipod w/ the EQ disabled it still blows away the I2.
I've tried using the program PowerAMP and no matter how I tweak the EQ on it the Ipod still blows it away. Does anyone know if there's a good stand-alone EQ app I should try or possibly a music player that's very good?
I hate having to do extra adjustments to my stereo just to have my phone's music player compete with my ipod.
The iPod will normally beat out any Android players. It's a sad truth . Hopefully things will get better. PowerAMP was the best thing I could find, and I guess its not satisfactory for you.
I don't think its in the market but maybe you can find the DSPmanager app somewhere?
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TB for Music...

So after some testing I really like using my Thunderbolt for Pandora, but not too sure about trading it out for my ipod...the ipod seems to give better output, as I have to crank it up to about 50 to match a volume level of 38-40 on my ipod. Even at that the vocals are struggling and the bass seems to drown it out a bit even with the bass turned all the way down. This may not be a TB issue but maybe a player issue (I use Poweramp Unlocked version). While Poweramp is nice its not exceptional. At this point I am not sure what to do as I would like to use Google Music instead of iTunes, but I am not sure if its ipod compatible or how big of a hassle is. I am hoping a really nice music player will come out soon...what do you guys think?
I was very unhappy with the default music player.
I would suggest getting doubleTwist, I find it to be waaaaay better than the default. And after you try out the free version, I would HIGHLY recommend getting the paid version with AirSync. It offers an iTunes like interface that can wirelessly (and pretty amazingly and bug free) sync music to your phone over your wifi network.
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I was very unhappy with the default music player.
I would suggest getting doubleTwist, I find it to be waaaaay better than the default. And after you try out the free version, I would HIGHLY recommend getting the paid version with AirSync. It offers an iTunes like interface that can wirelessly (and pretty amazingly and bug free) sync music to your phone over your wifi network.
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I was very very interested in this, and now that you mention it I will try it out. The reason I didn't try it was because of all the bad comments on it in the market, but those are always a bit hard to trust anyways, I will definitely give it a shot
I'm a music geek. I have to have all of my music in 320 mp3 or lossless. And I hqvent experienced low quality with poweramp and volume plus. Just make sure you have the eq off.
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I'm a music geek. I have to have all of my music in 320 mp3 or lossless. And I hqvent experienced low quality with poweramp and volume plus. Just make sure you have the eq off.
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and how do you do the 320mp3 and lossless?? I get a lot of my music from either Itunes or youtube. so far I am using double twist and man is it flawless as far as the airsync, havent played it on my stereo yet though. However are there any settings on doubletwist player?? I dont see volume plus on the market, what is that?
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and how do you do the 320mp3 and lossless?? I get a lot of my music from either Itunes or youtube. so far I am using double twist and man is it flawless as far as the airsync, havent played it on my stereo yet though. However are there any settings on doubletwist player?? I dont see volume plus on the market, what is that?
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anyone know how to do this and what volume plus is?
CC268 said:
At this point I am not sure what to do as I would like to use Google Music instead of iTunes, but I am not sure if its ipod compatible or how big of a hassle is. I am hoping a really nice music player will come out soon...what do you guys think?
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Give Google Music a try. It's spectacular! I uploaded 6,000+ songs from my iTunes library and now listen (with excellent quality) on my TB. Important note: I uploaded the songs from my Music folder not my iPod. I have not tried uploading from an iPod, although that is offered as an option in the Google Music Manager. Let us know how it works.
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Give Google Music a try. It's spectacular! I uploaded 6,000+ songs from my iTunes library and now listen (with excellent quality) on my TB. Important note: I uploaded the songs from my Music folder not my iPod. I have not tried uploading from an iPod, although that is offered as an option in the Google Music Manager. Let us know how it works.
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Tried google music but 225 of my songs weren't transferred for some DRM problem, even though they are all paid for music. It looks like I will be going back to my ipod. The sound quality is just no where near my ipod when it comes to car stereo. Still turning my music a good 15+ up than with my ipod. Also, for some reason after about 20 minutes of listening the music just suddenly gets quieter...this is a huge problem and I have no idea what it is

Music Setup

I don't think there is a lot of discussion about this, so I thought i would start one. Good evening, my name is Gregg and I am a recovering Ioser. It started out with just an ipod...you know it was convenient, it was shiny. It worked well. Buying music was a simple process. You clicked and could listen immediatly. At first it was just occasionally, but I got into the podcast scene and itseemed to fit me perfectly. Podcasts would let me listen to things while I was doing chores around the house. Eventually though podcasts on my ipod weren't enough for me. I also had to carry around a phone on the side, so I decided that maybe it would be OK to try a little iphone. The first click was awesome...phone and tunes...podcasts done well. I was hooked.
For two years I was doing a lot of Ios, but eventually the shiny IOS had me hooked. There were bills for apps that did nothing but make funny noises, their was music that I paid for but never listened to. I was hooked. I probably hit rock-bottom last year. My iosing was out of control and I thought I would go cold turkey. So I got my G2x.
Sorry for the goofy intro, but I though this would set me up a bit. Here's what I have itunes on the windows side. So getting music and podcasts from itunes to the g2X involves multiple layers.
1. Moving music to the machine.
2. Moving and managing podcasts
3. Playing and managing music (which includes playing, rating music and searchng through my music)
So I will start with the first question. From what I understand there are really two ways that I know of to move music and podcasts from itunes to your phone. One is doubletwist, the other is isyncr. There might be others, but these are the two that I worked with. of the two I went with iSyncr and here's why. Doubletwist has a lot going for it. Really a nice interface, and a nice music player on the android side. Its trying very hard to give me, an ex-ioser a bit of what I am missing. The sync app looks like itunes and allows me to sync my playlists. The app looks a lot like itunes. It plays music fine. The player struggled with my phone, though. Somehow it didn't cooperate with the cm7 ROM I am using. It wouldn't play well on the lock screen and seemed buggy. The syncing was buggy too. Genius podcasts wouldn't refresh when they changed on my itunes. There were workaround(relaunch itunes and doubletwist).
Isyncr is a 2.99 purchase. Its simple. You install the app on the android(you pretty much install and forget it) and it syncs when you launch the windows EXE on the memory card when the phone is docked to the computer. It works well. It syncs podcasts, and ratings. To me, that was important because I have this theory that I will rate my music into organization in itunes.Its flawless. I haven't tried the wifi setup, but I might in the future. It doesn't play your music, so its just a solution for syncing.
As for podcasts, I tried very hardto find a solution on the android side that will satisfy my needs right on the android. I bought the full version of pocketcasts. There are a lot of good things going for it, but there are bugs. One that was kind of a deal breaker was that if you try to advance the podcast in the player while its playing you lock up the app. Restart is the only solution. So, it was a good, pretty solution, but it had to go. I tried a couple other apps, but I wasn't sold.
So, ultimately, isyncr is my solution for podcasts too. It woks well, but it will require a daily sync. The advantage ultimatley of syncing from the desktop is also that I am able to make Mp3 CDs of podcasts as well as sync my podcasts from the same source. Simple, efficient and workable.
Which brings me to playing. I love google music(I have two more invites if anyone wants one), and it allows me to access my music when I am around wifi seamlessly. It allows me to make instant mixes based on a song. That's a killer feature. Combined with wireless access to all my music via the cloud its excellent. Advancing and moving within tracks and podcasts works well. Its not a full-feature app, but it works.
Almost there, there is one last aspect. I would like to rate music from my library while its playing. Isyncr has a nice widget that allows you to rate and see your playing apps and see the album art. Its part of the package. The ratings and playcounts go right back to itunes.
My preferences represent my unique quirks in terms of music and listening: I am a podcaster and a music listener and I prefer to rate my music. Because of this I am happy with: Isyncr and google music.
Long set-up, but ultimately I am asking you what your music listening setup is. Thoughts?
I use the standard music app since it has DTS for the g2x. Google music as well for some streaming music. Google Listen app for podcasts. I also like BeyondPod.
I drag and drop music. It's not fancy but I don't mind.
Power Amp with some EQ modifications and Voodoo Sound is how I enjoy my music. I used to use Doubletwist for syncing my music to my phone, but each update made more and more bloated, along with random freezes, so I just uninstalled it. Sony's Media Go software good is good for adding music, but I prefer to drag and drop into organized folders.
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If you're using a stock ROM, I'd recommend sticking to the stock player because of it's DTS feature. It greatly improves sound quality if you have it selected.

Best Music App since only 16gb

I'm sure for most of us this is our first device with non-removable storage. Welcome to iphone-ville territory (WHY HTC?). Anyway, for those of us who enjoy music on a regular basis and prefer not to store all of our music on the phone, what app do you use to cloud-sync? I've tried google music but it seems limited and the upload is very slow. So what is your preferred method to listen to music?
Pandora and Grooveshark!
those apps are good for random playlists. But im talking about your own personal music library. I like the htc music app, but its useless if I can't store my entire music library.
Google Music upload is slow? Are you kidding me? I mean, maybe the initial upload - but after that, it's super fast and auto adds songs you add to your music collection instantly. I love it.
I like and pay for Spotify.
It integrates my itunes collection including playlists and I can sync whatever I want for offline playback.
I pay for Spotify as well and Im coming from Zune marketplace, of which I loved! Spotify is just as good imo and I don't find that it sucks my battery dry within an hour either.
Google Music and Spotify.
Off topic slightly but since some of use google music where and how does it store music for off line listening? Does it store them as actual MP3 files or something else and how do remove them when no longer wanted? Thanks in advance
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Off topic slightly but since some of use google music where and how does it store music for off line listening? Does it store them as actual MP3 files or something else and how do remove them when no longer wanted? Thanks in advance
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Not sure how it is stored, but basically you go to the Music app, then you hold down on an album, hit "Make availible offline" and it downloads is somewhere. Then after you want to delete it, hold down on it again, and uncheck "Make availible offline" Its really awesome, try it out if you haven't already.
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Google Music upload is slow? Are you kidding me? I mean, maybe the initial upload - but after that, it's super fast and auto adds songs you add to your music collection instantly. I love it.
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yeah thats what im referring to when I speak of uploading. Good to know it gets faster because that was my only issue with google music.
Audiogalaxy hands down. The best sound quality out there (IF YOU HAVE A GOOD QUALITY LIBRARY) You stream your own personal library from home. You can log in from any computer anywhere and have your playlists and library. it caches wonderfully. sounds better than pandora, slacker, tune in, iheart, lastfm all of them. All my music is either lossless or itunes aac highest quality and it sounds amazing. It uses your itunes playlist also. the best thing is its FREE! 5 of my friends are logged in to my library at all times.. its in the market.. Audiogalaxy
yeah I just downloaded audiogalaxy. It uploads alot faster than google music. Liking it alot so far
Check Amazon MP3 player.
Audio galaxy is OK if your fine with being the server ... instead of Google...
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amazon got my monies ages ago with prime, and then they released their mp3 service before google. I honestly don't like how google music adds random tracks based on your "likes" I have a zune and zune pass, when I wanna explore I do it there.
I download all my music from zune and then upload the mp3s to amazon and call it a day.
I keep a solid 2gb on my phone, the rest is easily streamed with my unlimited LTE plan, and if you root and install either rogers or asia rom (I have asia) you don't even have to worry about att throttling your data

Best music app?

Now that I have a 64gb phone, I'm thinking about doing away with my 32gb iPod Touch. The main downside for me is going to be losing the USB connection from my Pioneer car stereo. I'm at least going to give it a try though. Any suggestions for the best music app to replicate or improve upon the iPod Touch interface?
Power amp is the best.I have also heard that google play music is very good.Give them a try
I ended up going with JRTStudio's iSyncr and Rocket Music Player. The iSyncr app is pretty sweet for utilizing your iTunes library on your Android device. It handles all the syncing directly between iTunes and your phone. Their companion music player works well too, at least so far.
Oh, and I got iSyncr from the Amazon App Store since it was only $0.99 there compared with $3.99 from the Play Store.
Power AMP is the best
Poweramp. Google play music sucks,!
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Poweramp
I agree with majority PowerAmp rocks !
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I agree with majority PowerAmp rocks !
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i think is poweramp:fingers-crossed:
Best music player is cloudskipper :victory: :victory: or google play music
Power amp! Definately Power amp!

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