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I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
I tried opera, but dont like how the fit to screen option distorts the page and desktop option makes the page become massive and difficult to navigate.
Also, is there anyway way of watching online videos SMOOTHLY?
The flash plugin works but its really choppy.
Not sure whether ill be keeping the upgrade, taking offers for it.
The choppy video is probably because of the driver issues (you can read more about it in the forums if you search a little)
And did you get opera 8.5 bundled with your phone? Opera 9.5 is much smoother and better looking than the 8.5 version (imo), and i'll suggest you try upgrading to it to see if there is any difference.
I watched the video regarding Opera 9.5 but its still not released, and by the looks of what I gathered from other forums, people are becoming impatient.
Im currently using Opera 8.65 and no it wasnt bundled with my phone.
So will those driver issues fix the choppy video playback?.
Normal videos saved to the device work fine its just the online ones that use a flash applet like dailymotion
Try Skyfire (you'll have to sign up for it), is really amazing, is very fast and smooth
thegr8one23 said:
I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
I tried opera, but dont like how the fit to screen option distorts the page and desktop option makes the page become massive and difficult to navigate.
Also, is there anyway way of watching online videos SMOOTHLY?
The flash plugin works but its really choppy.
Not sure whether ill be keeping the upgrade, taking offers for it.
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Need to do some more research on it before you get it I guess.
Anyways, CorePlayer, TCMP player all play videos fine.
ALL browsers are FINE and work great for different things.
I myself use pocket IE for sites that are in mobile format, and opera 9.5 "beta" for sites that are not in mobile format. I would use opera mobile if it wouldn't install over my 9.5, instead of pocket IE, but all my text based sites work fine in pocket IE (ebay, paypal, howardforums, flickr, youtube, etc)
I don't really know who watches youtube videos or other internet based videos via their browser, I've always seen them being watched through TCMP, CorePlayer, WMP streaming or HTC streaming media.
There are no official driver updates coming.
I am unsure as to the technology that Dailymotion uses, but if it's youtube based then you should have no problems.
I think you are looking for a desktop in a pocketpc, which no one has quite yet. Maybe an HTC advantage, who knows.
Doesnt matter what phone you have, all software will run the same if the devices were made in the same time frame.
Oh and I assume orbit 2 is in Europe somewhere? None the less, Skyfire is available to U.S. numbers only apparently for it's beta. Maybe NetFront would work for you, try that. I hated it.
thegr8one23 said:
I got a new orbit 2 a few days ago, only to be dissapointed about the web browser capabilities.
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Have you tried Opera Mini? Their new beta v4.1 can be downloaded and really works great. My favorite browser so far.
try opera with limit paragraph on. that's amazing.
Opera 9 (beta) is working really well, especially for a beta. Panning in web pages is pretty smooth most of the time and as the above poster said, with limit paragraph on, reading articles on news sites, etc is doable.
The negatives are it is a beta so bugs here and there. Other issues are the touch keyboards (numbers only) don't work and neither does pocketCM (space between every character). I don't believe there is flash support in the browser either.
I use PIE for youtube/flashbundle combo.
whats flash bundle?
do a search on it. it allows you to watch videos from sites like youtube (the real youtube not the mobile version of it). those sites use flash video and the flashbundle is a plugin for PIE that enables that functionality in PIE.
I have the flash 7 plugin, is that the same thing?
Whenever i try and load the non-mobile version of u-tube on PIE,
The whole phone just crashes and i have to take the battery out!
thegr8one23 said:
The whole phone just crashes and i have to take the battery out!
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You know there is a little round hole on the bottom of the device next to the USB called the 'Reset Hole"??? Put the stylus in it and you won't have to get the battery out....
Just search for TCMP and FlashVideoBundle cab files and install them.
When you go to youtube.com and watch a vdieo, it will give you an option of saving or playing the video. It uses the true youtube video not some crappy mobile version as said before, and it's really smooth. I watch cartoons and shows that way that i can't get on my tv, it's a life saver. really great quality and resolution for my cruise.
Try NetFront 3.5 for the ultimate web experience on a phone It's a class of it's own
You can get it here.
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
Picsel browser is fast and smooth and does a nice job of re-formatting, also reads .PDF files and a bunch of other things
Opera mini 4.1 is very good for browsing although I don't like the way you input web addresses, and lack of file save features.
And for tabbed browsing newest Opera or Pieplus
briggs81 said:
Just search for TCMP and FlashVideoBundle cab files and install them.
When you go to youtube.com and watch a vdieo, it will give you an option of saving or playing the video. It uses the true youtube video not some crappy mobile version as said before, and it's really smooth. I watch cartoons and shows that way that i can't get on my tv, it's a life saver. really great quality and resolution for my cruise.
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Does that solely only play Youtube?. or can it play other online video's too like Veoh and Megavideo and Toudo etc. etc.
I looked at that picsel browser, couldnt find a download link though ..
I love netfront 3.5 The site rendering on the pda is perfect.
Just try it but be do it quick as the concept version will stop 31 may 2008
thegr8one23 said:
Does that solely only play Youtube?. or can it play other online video's too like Veoh and Megavideo and Toudo etc. etc.
I looked at that picsel browser, couldnt find a download link though ..
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If the player on the page is based on Flash then possibly yes...
I just installed Flash 7 and it hosed my PIE. Froze the phone and had to soft reset. Could not view any page with flash content. I uninstalled and I'm back to being able to view with TCPMP. So basically flash 7 is not compatible with PIE... I was thinking about trying it with Opera Mini but didn't even get that far. Is Flash 7 necessary with Opera Mini or Opera 9.5?
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I just installed Flash 7 and it hosed my PIE. Froze the phone and had to soft reset. Could not view any page with flash content. I uninstalled and I'm back to being able to view with TCPMP. So basically flash 7 is not compatible with PIE... I was thinking about trying it with Opera Mini but didn't even get that far. Is Flash 7 necessary with Opera Mini or Opera 9.5?
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Not sure what the fascination is with playing YouTube thru the browser. I am not a real big YouTube user but I find that vTap is more than sufficient at playing whatever it is I need.
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
Adobe Flash Player 10.1 beta 2 for Android (2.2) FroYo is now available
The Adobe Flash Player 10.1 beta 2 for Android 2.2 is now available for download on Android Market for the Google Nexus One and other devices that support Android 2.2. Flash Player 10.1 beta 2 for Android enables your device to access the full web - which includes all your favorite videos, games, interactive media and web applications.
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To download (only from the phone, only for Froyo):
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html#android
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does anybody know what has changed?
Official release notes :
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player_10.1_for_Android#Fixed_Issues
Does a page with flash content still lag? this was the reason why i removed Flash.
I'm note able downloading it, my market doesn't show the flashplayer anymore...
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I'm note able downloading it, my market doesn't show the flashplayer anymore...
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my market shows it but it fails to download everytime. if someone has an .apk available for manual install that would be awesome.
Here it is: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1611645/Adobe Flash Player 10.1 10.1.72.4.apk
I tried it. Pre-update, flash videos were a little choppy. Post-update, they're as smooth as silk. Well, the ones I tested were. I've heard of some people still getting choppy playback.
As for the above mentioned issue of flash lagging sites out, change the plugins option to 'on demand' in the browser settings. Then flash content will only load when you want it to load.
The new update fixed a lot of issues. I have re-enabled Flash now...
Ive been using its, some of lag has been finxed, its more fluid i find.
Still doesn't work in xScope. =(
hardware accelerated so it's smoother. long tap to full screen works good.
sites tested using nexus one froyo:
m.flash.com
nba.com
espn.com
justin.tv
channelsurfing.net
I wouldn't say it works good. It works, but I'm a long way from impressed. Long tap works 1/4 times, the other times you get some strange results. Either nothing happens, the video stops, loads another page etc. Playback is usually very choppy or laggy. channelsurfing.net was choppy and justin.tv barely played at all.
watched episodes of house on justin.tv on 3g and it's smooth on fullscreen mode.
could be there a reason I can't find flash in the market? It was there till the other day...
dany74q said:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
To download (only from the phone, only for Froyo):
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html#android
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ONLY available for the Nexus One Froyo release. Not available on the market to Droid owners who are on Froyo. DAMMIT!
daemondemise said:
hardware accelerated so it's smoother. long tap to full screen works good.
sites tested using nexus one froyo:
m.flash.com
nba.com
espn.com
justin.tv
channelsurfing.net
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It's still not hardware accelerated but it is smoother. They fixed some memory leaks and did minor optimization.
The major change that I really liked was the fullscreen option on long tap. It makes interacting with flash much easier.
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I wouldn't say it works good. It works, but I'm a long way from impressed. Long tap works 1/4 times, the other times you get some strange results. Either nothing happens, the video stops, loads another page etc. Playback is usually very choppy or laggy. channelsurfing.net was choppy and justin.tv barely played at all.
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justin.tv plays great for me, very smooth!
I picked it up in the market a couple of days ago - fancast works perfectly, as do any sites that pepper me with Flash ads. Oh, and Disney's site works as well.
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Is it just me or does Disney employ half of the world's Flash devs? ESPN, Disney, ABC sites are all brimming with the stuff. [/ASIDE]
is there anyone that can upload the apk, I still can't install it off the market even having reverted back to my stock install with no root/oc/uv enabled, fails at the install every time.
edit: nevermind, found it in general
With the installation of flash, I was hoping to be able to watch games streamed from ESPN3. When clicking a link to watch a live stream, the player window opens, but it remains blank.
I tried this on the stock browser, and on Firefox mobile (fennec). Anyone else tried it?
My g-tablet:
Stock Tap'nTap with 1.01 update
LauncherPro
Rooted
ESPN on g-tablet
You may want to verify that your flash setup is working properly. I also have Tnt 1.01 + flash (folio apk), and ESPN3 live streams work fine for me. I'm watching Boston College vs. Texas A&M right now. The only difference is that my gtablet is not rooted.
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You may want to verify that your flash setup is working properly.
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How might I do this?
Does it involve editing the stagefright setting in the build.prop file? I seem to recall something about this.
What browser are you using?
It works for me in Dolphin HD on TNTLite 2.0 with the Flash fix.
Go to the adobe flash website (search in google for Adobe - Flash Player
Once the website page is loaded, if it's working properly, the flash logo will appear and it will tell you flash is installed successfully.
I'm using the stock browser that comes with the gtablet.
OK.
I edited the first line of where "stagefright" is listed, in the build.prop file. I changed it to "false". I rebooted and started the default browser. ESPN3 streaming is now working. I will also try it in Firefox.
I want to say that the quality of the streamed video is great!
Since I am a Linux user, flash video in general sucked. Mainly because Adobe refuses to make a Linux version that has hardware acceleration. I have resorted to booting an old WinXP HTPC that I have, when I need to watch a game on ESPN3. That picture was OK, with occasional hiccups. The video on the g-tablet is about the same. Since this is Linux based, I did not expect it.
Still haven't tried it on Firefox.
The video window still remains blank on Firefox Mobile. I guess it is a Firefox issue, not a g-tab or Android issue.
Does anyone know what the default browser is? I heard that it may be the Google Chrome browser. I installed Google Chrome on my Atom based netbook, but the video is horribly choppy. If I could install OpenOffice/LibreOffice on the tablet, the netbook would be history!
Has anyone tested the new flash to see how it works on our gtabs? also does anyone posses the skills to download the new flash, do the hex edit hack and then repackage the apk so that us less technical folk can use it?
i believe this is what you're looking for flash 10.2 hulu fix
Flash 10.2
i have problem with that either, but i wait for solution
ddarvish said:
Has anyone tested the new flash to see how it works on our gtabs? also does anyone posses the skills to download the new flash, do the hex edit hack and then repackage the apk so that us less technical folk can use it?
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I think if it was possible to repackage it someone would have already done it. I have no exerience with hex editing and I was able to do it. Just use this hex editor http://www.chmaas.handshake.de/delphi/freeware/xvi32/xvi32.htm
Use root explorer to pull out the file libflashplayer.so and open it up with the hex editor and use the find to search for text string AND and change it to WIN. Then copy it back over to the original file location. If you need more help send me a pm.
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i believe this is what you're looking for flash 10.2 hulu fix
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This works just fine on my G-Tablet, running VEGAn-Tab Build, BETA 5.1.1. Thanks for posting.
In addition to ksc6000s post... find the "and" which comes before the flash version number. Then replace and with win and the android version number with the windows version number, this way you don't get an update to the latest flash dialogue. Some people put nines for numbers and have reported success. Or download the pre edited version floating around this post. Then make sure your browser settings are allowing plug ins and set to desktop. hope that gives some more detail also if you see loading for a while be patient it takes a bit to load in my experiences.
Works fine in portrait mode. A little jerky with lag in full screen landscape mode with 480 resolution. Dolpin set to Desktop mode. REMEMER TO UNINSTALL Flash 10.1 before installing 10.2 with Hulu fix.
Stock 3318 pack with 3.14 enhancement pack.
Installed. Seems slower than 10.1. But on the bright side, hulu hack works. It never did on 10.1
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Installed. Seems slower than 10.1. But on the bright side, hulu hack works. It never did on 10.1
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I agree about the slowness, but Hulu with 10.1 didn't work on Vegan 7. This one does. Now if we could only get general video support on Vegan 7...
Ill have to try this I've tried a few times to get hulu and no fix ever seemed to work.
Hulu works for me. Even tethered to my phone. May pause when tethered but only initially. No problems on home wifi. Fullscreen isn't quite fullscreen but if you choose the pop-out it fills the screen almost prefect. The on screen controls for the player are a bit difficult to use, but I can use them. The Hulu app works really well in portrait mode as a way to watch shows quickly. The about:debug part of the hack is critical.
i get no sound out of my flash videos, im on vegan 7. ive tried hulu and youtube, videos play fine but no sound
This worked on samsung galaxy tab Verizon with Klean v3. The trick is to enable flash plugin all the time in dolphin. I had mine set to on demand and when i changed it hulu worked. I also recommend choosing the pop out player when watching a movie. After you give it some time to load it runs really smooth
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i get no sound out of my flash videos, im on vegan 7. ive tried hulu and youtube, videos play fine but no sound
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+1 same issue same ROM
I'm on Vegan 7 and works fine for me other than working the controls is a pain (was like that before, not a 7 issue). Other flash players don't have that problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1037483
Try that .so file.
cruiser771 said:
i get no sound out of my flash videos, im on vegan 7. ive tried hulu and youtube, videos play fine but no sound
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+2 on this.
Hulu working!
Wrote up a guide on the Nook Color forums. Works great on the gf's G tablet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13010882&postcount=1
Does anyone else have problems with choppy video in Dolphin using Hulu? Is there a trick to get it to play smoother? Other videos play fine outside of the browser. I am running TnT Lite 4.4.0
No Sound...
I am also experiencing no sound irrespective of the source through the speakers. I can get sound through the headphones via music player though.
Update: I now have sound through the speakers but nothing from hulu....
I can view anything at or above 360p from YouTube via default or dolphin browser?
The default YouTube app sucks dong cuz it buffers forever and I can't change quality of video...
If anyone know why I can't choose 360p in browser please let me know.
In the YouTube app there is HD button to switch between SD HD.
If you visit the desktop version of YouTube on the xoom you will have the same options as you would on your computer.
If you don't know how to do that search for about:debug ua string.
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I am running desktop UA but YouTube would not play anything above 360p in browser.
Is it only me?
I prefer YouTube in browser than the dumb app.
Same issue here, seems to have just started a couple of days ago as it worked fine before when watching 720p in the browser. Now no videos work in pluse, stock browser or dolphin. Just get "an error, try back later". So then I click to go to the YouTube page for the video and still does not work. The only way to work is to swtich the ua string to android, I use the dolphin toggle extension but it is very annoying to have to do this all the time, I don't want to view mobile site on my tablet. Wtf is Google doing this, why block tablets from seeing HQ video, the main differentiation between their offerings and the ipad.
My guess, something to do with copyright. I personally think that its stupid to block mobile video in the first place.
I have had no issues. 720p plays in browser. Check your settings for playback on the YouTube site. If that don't work. Clear data for browser. That will loose all your bookmarks etc though.
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Got the same problems myself now.
albundy2010 said:
I have had no issues. 720p plays in browser. Check your settings for playback on the YouTube site. If that don't work. Clear data for browser. That will loose all your bookmarks etc though.
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R u using desktop ua or android?
I have no problems with it either way. If its android it just loads the mobile then I click on open desktop site. When on desktop it just goes right to desktop of course. No issues.
Cant watch any videos on the desktop site now.
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Cant watch any videos on the desktop site now.
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You should be able to watch 240p
You're right, but that sucks.
Are you guys having the problem with stock Adobe Flash or only the modified version of Adobe Flash for hulu.com support?
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Are you guys having the problem with stock Adobe Flash or only the modified version of Adobe Flash for hulu.com support?
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Youtube doesn't even play for me with the flash from manta rom...
I have the modified hulu version.
am also using modified hulu version....
In my version of the hulu flash, all I modified was the version number and from Android to Windows so unless youtube now actually verifies the version number along with the version type, that may be the reason. There is a new version of Adobe Flash released yesterday, I will modify it as usual and will report the results here since I can't do much with hex editing as that is the only known hack.
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In my version of the hulu flash, all I modified was the version number and from Android to Windows so unless youtube now actually verifies the version number along with the version type, that may be the reason. There is a new version of Adobe Flash released yesterday, I will modify it as usual and will report the results here since I can't do much with hex editing as that is the only known hack.
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can you post please because I would like to watch YT on my xoom again.
If you all are still having troubles with your Youtube on the Stock Browser, Dolphin, Opera, or Firefox, can you please give me some more details on your settings?
When you say "Desktop Browser" are you refering to www.youtube.com and forcing it to stay that way or is it going to www.youtube.com and then changing to the mobile version, m.youtube.com?
(Only Stock Browser) Have you done the "Aboutebug" (Without quotes) mode and change your browser to LOOK like a desktop UI?
~~If you are using the "Aboutebug" Mode, are you running on Wi-Fi only or are you running 3g?
(Dolphin/Opera Browsers only) Have you gone in and changed the settings to make it look like a Desktop Browser or are you still allowing it to display as a Android Device?
When the videos do work, have you tried to clear your Cache and History to keep the information in the buffer low when you are just getting ready to watch videos/just after you are done watching videos? (I ask because I noticed on my Wi-Fi Stock Rooted Rom that if you do not use the Youtube App, it bogs down the Cache and the History just gets cluttered...)
Are you making sure there are not other applications running too and choking out the Browser UI's? (aka, getting a task manager and killing apps before you go into another app)
I hope to help you out, as well as others in the near future (be it advice or with the same problem) and get this problem resolved!
Thank You for the information in advance! ^_^
Sure,
When you say "Desktop Browser" are you refering to www.youtube.com and forcing it to stay that way or is it going to www.youtube.com and then changing to the mobile version, m.youtube.com?
=> No, I'm using desktop UA string so it is always www.youtube.com. I have to manually go to m.youtube.com.
(Only Stock Browser) Have you done the "Aboutebug" (Without quotes) mode and change your browser to LOOK like a desktop UI?
~~If you are using the "Aboutebug" Mode, are you running on Wi-Fi only or are you running 3g?
=> I have WIFI xoom so WIFI only.
(Dolphin/Opera Browsers only) Have you gone in and changed the settings to make it look like a Desktop Browser or are you still allowing it to display as a Android Device?
=> Yes, I am using desktop UA in dolphin as well. I don't see why using mobile UA on the tablet is usefull at all.
When the videos do work, have you tried to clear your Cache and History to keep the information in the buffer low when you are just getting ready to watch videos/just after you are done watching videos? (I ask because I noticed on my Wi-Fi Stock Rooted Rom that if you do not use the Youtube App, it bogs down the Cache and the History just gets cluttered...)
=> Videos ONLY WORK for me at 260p....doesn't matter whether I clear cache or history.
Are you making sure there are not other applications running too and choking out the Browser UI's? (aka, getting a task manager and killing apps before you go into another app)
=> Yes, rebooted and only running browser...tried many many times.