I just installed RandomKing's "ThunderHawk III Final" rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343669
I noticed I have a bug with my wireless not working, and wanted to report that, but apparently the forum prevents new users from posting to development threads. Must I really make 10 random posts just so I can do that? (I realize I may be able to PM RandomKing directly, but I figure it'd be good for other users to also be aware of what bugs are out there for these roms ...)
I guess I'm a little annoyed at being prevented from doing something that I considered "good" for the community ...
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I just installed RandomKing's "ThunderHawk III Final" rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343669
I noticed I have a bug with my wireless not working, and wanted to report that, but apparently the forum prevents new users from posting to development threads. Must I really make 10 random posts just so I can do that? (I realize I may be able to PM RandomKing directly, but I figure it'd be good for other users to also be aware of what bugs are out there for these roms ...)
I guess I'm a little annoyed at being prevented from doing something that I considered "good" for the community ...
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Did you read threw the thread to see if others had this issue? What did you do to try and fix it? Did you look in the Q&A forums in your device forums?
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Did you read threw the thread to see if others had this issue? What did you do to try and fix it? Did you look in the Q&A forums in your device forums?
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Yeah, I read through the tread, and as far as I can tell, the bug's been persistent through several versions of the rom. It was claimed that it was fixed with his latest version, but I guess not ...
The only fix I had found was to reboot the phone Today, the "app" to make calls (I think it's called "phone?") crashed several times, meaning I can't call people reliably, so I think I'm going to try a different rom. Thanks again for your help though!
same here. I'm having an issue with another rom myself, and just want to post to the developer a major bug that I am having. I read throug the entire forum post for that rom, and no one else mentioned the issue that I'm having.
its pretty bazaar that I when I answer a call waiting call no one can hear me. If I switch back to the original call, the same problem happens no one can hear me. This is only when i get another incoming phone call.
The rom i installed is for Energy Rom sense 3.5
Haha, well, if we keep posting to places like this, I guess we'll soon hit our 10 post limit
FYI for anyone that cares, I just installed CleanGB v1.1.2 (for the Epic 4G):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22241642
So far it seems pretty good. If I run into any issues, I guess I'll be posting here again xP
As already stated. There are Q&A forums for most devices. Use them.
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PREFACE:
Okay, I'm sure like many of you, I'm starting to get a bit tired of development threads being turned into repetitive Q&A threads where questions go unanswered, so I thought I'd start a thread here in the PROPER section and provide a link in the official thread that (hopefully) doesn't get buried. So please, if someone keeps asking a repeat question, direct them here so proper development in that thread doesn't get buried.
SO ANYWAYS,
So far, I'll just leave this here and let it get populated, and update the OP accordingly as common issues come in. Hard to tell when exactly build 2a issues came about, because many issues were fixed (as well as found) when 2/2a was released.
IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE
Check here first: Google Code Issue Page
This is a collaboration of all major issues that have been presented and have been fixed in major alpha updates. If you have an issue that's listed here, please don't ask about it, as it's already been acknowledged and probably already being worked on.
If you have a potential answer to any of those problems, please, feel free to post what worked for you to fix it. (After all, this is a Q&A thread, right? )
I'll try and keep this OP updated as much as I can with issues that are presented but not on the Google code page. Just thought I'd make this thread to ease a bit off the main thread and also make users' subscriptions to it actually USEFUL and not have them be notified when someone is simply asking how to get Instagram working or when we'll get sources.
-Fortune
Reserved
Could be just me maybe I should do a fresh install. But I have noticed when I restore cm9 from recovery I miss calls an texts randomly.
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I think that may actually be a problem with the rom itself. There is a known issue that cell signal drops every so often, and that may be what is causing you to miss things. One of the big reasons top doesn't recommend this as a daily driver quite yet.
Yeah LOL bit too late figuring that out...after the gf yelling I been texting an calling all day. Maybe I should actually be glad got rid of one head ache CM9 ftw :thumbup:
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ReForMatt said:
Yeah LOL bit too late figuring that out...after the gf yelling I been texting an calling all day. Maybe I should actually be glad got rid of one head ache CM9 ftw :thumbup:
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I got those same discussions from my gf
You should put a faq on the op btw with the questions already answered
CM9 Skyrocket
In an attempt to not step on the lawn, I am going to try and make my first post useful to other noobs, regardless of my own ability level.
I see that others have made a "my first phone" thread in other sections using search, and I did not notice one in this forum yet. I don't know if this post will make it past muster or not, or if it will be the same as other kinds of posts, but the way I see it, it would be rad if I came to xda/htc/attonex and found a post identical to this one, that had started a couple months ago. Alas, time travel isn't available.
My problem is that I am literally experiencing this phone as my first smartphone ever, and I am too ignorant to even know what a good question is. So I find myself with a quandary. On the one hand, I am tech savvy enough to know that my phone is capable of more than at&t/htc wants to let on, and I know that there is this sea of people that know a lot about this stuff. On the other hand, I don't even know what phones can really do, why I would want it to do those things, or how to go about learning the smart and safe way to do those things without fear of "bricking" my new toy.
It's really daunting to look at this forum for a noob. I need some good info on android as well as good info on my phone, and just browsing the forum for the last few days has led me to more questions and more complex questions before I have the basics, and I feel like that's going to get me in trouble here.
If people could do the following in response to this post: point me in the right direction for informative posts/websites/forums/etc on android, specifically basic OS functionality & rooting basics for people who do not understand/use linux; point me to informative beginner oriented (not just reviews or w/e, but basics) posts/websites/forums/etc on the at&t1x, specifically anything that is not on the htc site or the at&t site, which is basically my understanding level right now; if i ask stupid questions about your thought-out posts in here and i totally miss your point, please be patient with me; point me to apps and app stores, I have only used the play store - I know there is more out there, but freaked out about viruses and stuff.
I know I'm asking for a lot of hand-holding, but I promise that after the movie we can make out if you want. I'm not stupid, but I am certainly ignorant about androids. HALP.
YouTube is you friend, there are some great walkthroughs on there. Along with read,read,read. Welcome to XDA, ENJOY your time here, you are off to a very advanced start, great phone choice along with grea first post...the force is strong with this one:thumbup:
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@MichaelHaley
You wouldn't happen to be from Buffalo New York would you?
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What I did when I started was just look at posts and any word or anything at all that I didn't understand i just Googled it. I learned alot like that.
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http://droidlessons.com/
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@MichaelHaley
You wouldn't happen to be from Buffalo New York would you?
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Nope. California.
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What I did when I started was just look at posts and any word or anything at all that I didn't understand i just Googled it. I learned alot like that.
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I don't have a problem with understanding words, but thanks.
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droidlessons - link which i can not post yet
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This is the kind of stuff I'm looking for, I figure people here would know which ones like this are quality vs. time wasters. This level and slightly above is about where I'm at. Thanks a lot.
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Nope. California.
I don't have a problem with understanding words, but thanks.
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I don't think he meant basic words. But stuff like adb shell. Asop. Root. S off. S on. Just to name a few. If you don't know this basic words, your time here will be a pain.
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tae_254 said:
I don't think he meant basic words. But stuff like adb shell. Asop. Root. S off. S on. Just to name a few. If you don't know this basic words, your time here will be a pain.
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Lists of useful words and terms are awesome! Thanks! Please add!
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Lists of useful words and terms are awesome! Thanks! Please add!
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You're still missing bradleyG's original point. If there are esoteric terms you don't understand, just Google them. This will help you out:
http://bit.ly/KSfCM7
Boom. That was easy.
Seriously, Google is your friend, as is the XDA search. You're not going to think of a question that hasn't already been answered at length on XDA. Maybe not for the One X, specifically, since the device is so new. But for general Android stuff, just doing a general search using the XDA function, of Googling will probably get you an answer within a few minutes. For that matter, just spend some time browsing through the General, and Q&A forums, and reading the threads that look of interest to you. In no time at all, you'll have some decent working knowledge. The learning curve may look intimidating from where you are. But don't worry, its really not that bad. Seriously, just a few hours of reading on XDA will probably put above the knowledge level of the majority of smartphone owners.
If you are truly stumped after searching and reading on your own, post a question in Q&A. But do your due diligence first. Simple reason for this is that the forum would become useless if it was clogged up by every single question that beginners think up.
And welcome to the club. The One X is a helluva first smartphone.
redpoint73 said:
You're still missing bradleyG's original point. If there are esoteric terms you don't understand, just Google them. This will help you out:
http://bit.ly/KSfCM7
Boom. That was easy.
Seriously, Google is your friend, as is the XDA search. You're not going to think of a question that hasn't already been answered at length on XDA. Maybe not for the One X, specifically, since the device is so new. But for general Android stuff, just doing a general search using the XDA function, of Googling will probably get you an answer within a few minutes. For that matter, just spend some time browsing through the General, and Q&A forums, and reading the threads that look of interest to you. In no time at all, you'll have some decent working knowledge. The learning curve may look intimidating from where you are. But don't worry, its really not that bad. Seriously, just a few hours of reading on XDA will probably put above the knowledge level of the majority of smartphone owners.
If you are truly stumped after searching and reading on your own, post a question in Q&A. But do your due diligence first. Simple reason for this is that the forum would become useless if it was clogged up by every single question that beginners think up.
And welcome to the club. The One X is a helluva first smartphone.
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Ai ai ai. Thanks for the help dude, but my whole point is that I don't even know enough to know what kinds of questions I should be having. Once I get started, I can use forum searches and google well, so for specific questions I will need very little help. I'm just not coming up with any questions.
Picture me sitting there, staring at the phone, hoping it will do something, looking puzzled when it doesn't, and then start posting links.
I see what you're saying. What you are asking for is really too broad a topic to write a guide or anything like that. As a start, just try looking through the threads in the various forums. Development subforum has mods (modifications) and stuff along those lines. The Themes and Apps subforum will give you some ideas on some cool apps and widgets. You'll quickly get a good idea of what possibilities are out there. And trust me, plenty of specific questions will pop up in your mind soon enough.
Since you are brand new to the smartphone world, apps is a good place to start. Just Google around for best Android apps and see what interests you. Even the Play Store has some issues with malware and other malicious software. But these are usually less popular apps, made by shady software developers. If you read up on best apps at reputable websites like PCMag, Gizmodi, CNET, you shouldn't go wrong. The more popular, tried and true apps tend to be very safe. Lots of the best functionality of smartphones is through apps, so this is a good place to start.
My advice would be to use the device for a while, and see what it can do running stock before you think about rooting and other mods. Unless you are looking at specific mods (removing bloatware or adding back some of the things that AT&T removed like FM radio and flashlight) you probably shouldn't be considering root just yet.
Android Central is a good website with lots of information that you should find interesting if this is your first android device. They have put together a really good android dictionary which is found here: http://www.androidcentral.com/dictionary
They also run an android a to z series on their blog which has a ton of info and goes a little more in depth than just giving definitions.
Enjoy your phone, for a first smart phone you picked a serious winner! There are a few quarks (which are all outlined pretty well in this forum) but for the most part this phone is great.
bradleyG said:
What I did when I started was just look at posts and any word or anything at all that I didn't understand i just Googled it. I learned alot like that.
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Cant beat this advice. Read everything, assume your questions has already been asked. The more you read, the more questions you'll have and then the more reading you'll want to do to find the answers. This website is really a PHENOMENAL resource, but I find myself constantly googling terms/comments/procedures that I dont understand. I'm quite technologically inclined but relatively new to the android world and have only been using XDA for a couple months. However, I find myself mostly only posting on very topical threads. For the hardcore technical research and development, I prefer to sit back and just read about the amazing work that the developers are doing. Welcome!
I'll second what everyone else said. I was where you were a few months ago. Though I came from four years on iOS, I was an Android noob. I've been reading and browsing xda and other sites just trying to get my bearings. It's very intimidating at first, but you've just got to start somewhere. Start reading, trying to get the general gist of things before worrying about the exact terminology. Bit by bit things will start sounding familiar, and you'll have some context to start framing your searches. Really, they're not kidding about 99.99% of noob questions being already answered somewhere; you've just got to know the right way to ask.
Just be patient and don't give up. Three weeks into my One X ownership, I'm rooted and gradually getting some confidence in modding my phone. (I was an experienced iOS jailbreaker, but life is different over here in a lot of ways.)
redpoint73 said:
You're still missing bradleyG's original point. If there are esoteric terms you don't understand, just Google them. This will help you out:
http://bit.ly/KSfCM7
Boom. That was easy.
Seriously, Google is your friend, as is the XDA search. You're not going to think of a question that hasn't already been answered at length on XDA. Maybe not for the One X, specifically, since the device is so new. But for general Android stuff, just doing a general search using the XDA function, of Googling will probably get you an answer within a few minutes. For that matter, just spend some time browsing through the General, and Q&A forums, and reading the threads that look of interest to you. In no time at all, you'll have some decent working knowledge. The learning curve may look intimidating from where you are. But don't worry, its really not that bad. Seriously, just a few hours of reading on XDA will probably put above the knowledge level of the majority of smartphone owners.
If you are truly stumped after searching and reading on your own, post a question in Q&A. But do your due diligence first. Simple reason for this is that the forum would become useless if it was clogged up by every single question that beginners think up.
And welcome to the club. The One X is a helluva first smartphone.
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This is exactly what I meant. There is no all powerful guide that will teach you everything you need to know. It takes time to learn all these things and only diligence will prove to give you what you need. I remember when I first got my g1 I didn't know anything. I started looking for mods/hacks I could do to it and stumbled upon xda. Then I found out about rooting so I looked up stuff about rooting like what are the benefits of it, the risks, and tutorials. Then one thing leads to another rooting leads to ROMs and kernels, kernels lead to overclocking, etc. You'll soon be an expert and have advice to give other people. The more you read, the better. But you will never get to a point where there is nothing new to be learned, you will eventually make a habit of looking up different things after you do it for so long. Just stick with it and you will get the hang of it.
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redpoint73 said:
I see what you're saying. What you are asking for is really too broad a topic to write a guide or anything like that. As a start, just try looking through the threads in the various forums. Development subforum has mods (modifications) and stuff along those lines. The Themes and Apps subforum will give you some ideas on some cool apps and widgets. You'll quickly get a good idea of what possibilities are out there. And trust me, plenty of specific questions will pop up in your mind soon enough.
Since you are brand new to the smartphone world, apps is a good place to start. Just Google around for best Android apps and see what interests you. Even the Play Store has some issues with malware and other malicious software. But these are usually less popular apps, made by shady software developers. If you read up on best apps at reputable websites like PCMag, Gizmodi, CNET, you shouldn't go wrong. The more popular, tried and true apps tend to be very safe. Lots of the best functionality of smartphones is through apps, so this is a good place to start.
My advice would be to use the device for a while, and see what it can do running stock before you think about rooting and other mods. Unless you are looking at specific mods (removing bloatware or adding back some of the things that AT&T removed like FM radio and flashlight) you probably shouldn't be considering root just yet.
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Yes thank you for that, I know that apps are about my speed right now but my sights are set UP!! Hehe. I really was trying to figure out about the flashlight and FM radio already, but couldn't find a setting in the phone. Is that a root thing? I also hate bloat ware, even if i can disable it, i know MOG Radio & AT&T IdiotWare is there, just taking up space, and it bugs the hell out of me! I also want to do things like check out vanilla android so I can know what sense is, but i understand that requires a bootloader? Which I am reading about.. but that seems like some pretty advanced stuff.. I'll get there hopefully.
bmolloy said:
Android Central is a good website with lots of information that you should find interesting if this is your first android device. They have put together a really good android dictionary which is found here: http://www.androidcentral.com/dictionary
They also run an android a to z series on their blog which has a ton of info and goes a little more in depth than just giving definitions.
Enjoy your phone, for a first smart phone you picked a serious winner! There are a few quarks (which are all outlined pretty well in this forum) but for the most part this phone is great.
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Yes thank you very much, this is exactly the kind of specific stuff I'm looking for, not that general advice isn't great too!
bradleyG said:
This is exactly what I meant. There is no all powerful guide that will teach you everything you need to know. It takes time to learn all these things and only diligence will prove to give you what you need. I remember when I first got my g1 I didn't know anything. I started looking for mods/hacks I could do to it and stumbled upon xda. Then I found out about rooting so I looked up stuff about rooting like what are the benefits of it, the risks, and tutorials. Then one thing leads to another rooting leads to ROMs and kernels, kernels lead to overclocking, etc. You'll soon be an expert and have advice to give other people. The more you read, the better. But you will never get to a point where there is nothing new to be learned, you will eventually make a habit of looking up different things after you do it for so long. Just stick with it and you will get the hang of it.
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I think I may have come off more adversarial to you than I meant to.. I wasn't trying to minimize what you said.. Of course research is essential, and I plan to not bug you guys with stupid questions as much as possible.. I'm just trying to build a repository of reference for complete noobtards like me here in this thread so it's all in one place. When I have specific questions about terms and things I will of course employ due diligence before I bring that stuff to the community, but like I said, I'm not even there yet..
OK so I have a question that I tried to search for and came up with nil. Every so often, when I run this or that program, or sometimes on start up, some of my icons do one of two things: 1.) they lose the text under the icon, 2.) they lose the text under the icon and the icon turns into the generic android icon.
Wutdo?
MichaelHaley said:
OK so I have a question that I tried to search for and came up with nil. Every so often, when I run this or that program, or sometimes on start up, some of my icons do one of two things: 1.) they lose the text under the icon, 2.) they lose the text under the icon and the icon turns into the generic android icon.
Wutdo?
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Restart/ force close the launcher. Or get a new launcher like go or nova.
Cryosx said:
Restart/ force close the launcher. Or get a new launcher like go or nova.
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I feel like a complete tard, but after searching and finding nothing, I can't figure out how to do what you're saying.
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Restart/ force close the launcher. Or get a new launcher like go or nova.
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Is that just like the proper way to say restart the phone?
Hey guys,
I'm trying to figure out what people are getting for idle battery drain. It seems the best i've ever been able to achieve is around 3.5% an hour, and never consistently. I've seen some people report idle battery drain close to 1%. So i'm wondering what people are seeing for their idle drain, and asking for as much info as possible about their setup, including rom, kernel, governor, uv/oc, any specific apps frozen or auto-starts removed, google apps or alternatives (such as k9 vs gmail)?
Thanks guys!
Ratkid
Wake lock thread in general section
Battery life help thread also in general section.
Please search and do research I am reporting this thread as it really isn't necessary.
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The_Blue_Waffle said:
Wake lock thread in general section
Battery life help thread also in general section.
Please search and do research I am reporting this thread as it really isn't necessary.
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There is a difference between help with battery life and a survey. This is also not specific to wakelocks. Please don't assume that people don't search or do research. I have done quite a lot of research, and searching, including reading almost the entire bbs thread (about 900 of the 1000 or so pages). I am asking for what experience other people are having. Also, if you look at my question, it is not about battery life in general, but specific to idle drain percents. You can have phenomenal idle drain percentages, but horrible battery life.
That's the thing this is pointless each phone is different use those threads to maximize your personal performance we already have enough threads on how to boost performance we don't need a survey to see how everyone is doing again its pointless
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That may be your opinion, which you are entitled to. I however disagree. I think this is a different topic than "improve my battery life". Yes every phone is different, but that does not invalidate the question. If you do not want to contribute to this thread in a positive manner, please don't clutter it. If people truly feel it is useless, they do not have to post.
OK so please enlighten me how this does anything for anyone other than start a flame war of this ROMs so much better blah blah blah blah
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OK so please enlighten me how this does anything for anyone other than start a flame war of this ROMs so much better blah blah blah blah
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If this is really something you wish to discuss, lets take it offline. In the meantime, I'm still hopeful that this thread can be useful, at the very least for me if not everyone else. Again, please don't post again unless you have something to contribute along the lines of the OP. Thank you.
OK so knowing exactly what you are looking for in this thread I can tell you you won't find it there are far too many variables. Your looking for an average amongst everyone which is insane. For you to find even an inkling of an idea you need every single point of data I'm talking ROM, kernel, every single installed app, every setting, BBS stats looking for wake locks, what every app does in standby, its far too much data to compute to give you any accurate idea it's a fruitless idea the only thing you can do is go to each ROM thread and look at what people are saying about it.
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OK so knowing exactly what you are looking for in this thread I can tell you you won't find it there are far too many variables. Your looking for an average amongst everyone which is insane. For you to find even an inkling of an idea you need every single point of data I'm talking ROM, kernel, every single installed app, every setting, BBS stats looking for wake locks, what every app does in standby, its far too much data to compute to give you any accurate idea it's a fruitless idea the only thing you can do is go to each ROM thread and look at what people are saying about it.
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See that's just it. An average means the good, the bad, the great, the ugly, and the ok. It includes the heavy users and the light users. The people who use data hungry apps, and the people who don't. If enough people contribute, regardless of what apps they are using, you can get an idea. It is not an insane idea. Yet again, you have chosen to post in this thread with information that is not relavent to the thread. Instead you continue to attempt to put me down instead of both respecting my wishes to take this offline, and respecting my request to keep the thread relevant. You claim that you are trying to prevent the forum from being flooded with junk postings, yet this is exactly what you are doing instead of helping. At this point, my thread is useless because of the back and forth we are having here. I would be shocked if anyone would post in here after reading all this. Moderators, please close this thread as "The_Blue_Waffle" has ruined it for me.
Thank you.
On cm 10 I get about 4 to 6 percent loss a hour. With no notifications. If I get an email and the blink light notification goes off for a while it gets worse. Most of the time it's in my pocket never notice the blink light if I miss the notification. I've recently used set cpu to lower the clock speed to 192. Might help
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See that's just it. An average means the good, the bad, the great, the ugly, and the ok. It includes the heavy users and the light users. The people who use data hungry apps, and the people who don't. If enough people contribute, regardless of what apps they are using, you can get an idea. It is not an insane idea. Yet again, you have chosen to post in this thread with information that is not relavent to the thread. Instead you continue to attempt to put me down instead of both respecting my wishes to take this offline, and respecting my request to keep the thread relevant. You claim that you are trying to prevent the forum from being flooded with junk postings, yet this is exactly what you are doing instead of helping. At this point, my thread is useless because of the back and forth we are having here. I would be shocked if anyone would post in here after reading all this. Moderators, please close this thread as "The_Blue_Waffle" has ruined it for me.
Thank you.
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It was destined to fail from the start. This thread is garbage. All it does is waste space and clutter the place up. We already have battery threads. At least 3 of them that are chalked full of screen shots, set ups, and comparisons.
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I just tested mine. With data and wifi off and a few phone calls I woke up to 19 hours 21 minutes on battery and 87% battery remaining. I did use wifi for a few minutes.
I don't have data on my phone yet. Can't justify the price considering how much I would use it.
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