Anyone using XSCOPE on the EVO? I have been a big fan of MIREN BROWSER but now found XSCOPE 6. I cant decide which one I like better.. any thoughts?
I think that miren is faster
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adrycast said:
I think that miren is faster
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Well, Ive been playing with both and I cant decide which one is faster on my EVO.. hmmm...
I prefer Xscope on my N1, because some websites (my stupid bank, for example) don't work unless they see "iphone" as the UA string.
Xscope allows you to set specific bookmarks to use a custom UA string, whilst allowing you to leave the default as "Android".
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I prefer Xscope on my N1, because some websites (my stupid bank, for example) don't work unless they see "iphone" as the UA string.
Xscope allows you to set specific bookmarks to use a custom UA string, whilst allowing you to leave the default as "Android".
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Where do you do this?
I've been defaulting to Miren because I like how it renders pages (particularly how it fits frames/tables and such to fit the screen) vs. XScopes algorithm for doing the same.
On the other hand, Miren's bookmarking system is (in my opinion) seriously in need of an overhaul. First, you have to press the menu button to get the address bar and only then can you press the star icon (for creating a bookmark) and once you do, you have no initial option to name the bookmark! Miren just takes the page title and uses that automatically.
Worse yet, once you have the bookmark and manually change the title, at some point it seems Miren does some kind of auto-update on the names and REVERTS the bookmark names back to the page titles.
Luckily for Miren, I like how it renders pages enough to get passed that bookmark "feature".
If you have not already read the XScope manual in full, be sure to give it a read. It's not lenghty and straight forward.
Once I read that and learned all that XScope can do that I didn't even know about, I didn't want to switch to anything else. But that does not detail things like changing the User Agent of the browser to iPhone or iPad in cases where you might need to do that. It also does not detail how the browser handles video and makes it easy to send an online video into full screen viewing mode. Just long press on the video, a box appears in the left corner, press it and the video is in full screen mode.
Also, take a look into XScope's settings within the app and see if other browsers offer so many options.
To change the browser's Agent setting, just go into Settings and in the "Web page" section there is a "User agent" value that can be changed to "computer", "Android", "iPhone" or "iPad".
To get into Settings, press the circle with a downward triangle in it, then press the icon that looks like a hammer and wrench.
In xscope 6, is there a way to open videos from youtube in the actual YOUTUBE APP? in MIREN, I go to youtube.com, click on a video and it then asks me what I want to complete the action with. I tell it YOUTUBE APP and it formats the video correctly. Any way to do this in XSCOPE?
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Just downloaded Dolphin Browser HD and it is freakin awesome. Try it out.
what is the difference?
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lots its smoother
I personally don't get the hype of this dolphin browser. I find the default browser to be better than any others I have tried. There are a lot of new features in HD, which seem good in theory, but in the end it just seems like an overcrowded browser that does everything the stock one already does. Just my .02
thanks am gonna try it out
Just installed it.....really nice..."gestures" are really handy...
Best browser out there PERIOD.
Smooth. Options. Bells/whistles.
How does it stack up to Skyfire 2.0 Beta?
why does it zoom so far out when you go to a website? unlike the original. hate constantly pinching to zoom in everytime i go to a website. tried changing settings, nothing.
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why does it zoom so far out when you go to a website? unlike the original. hate constantly pinching to zoom in everytime i go to a website. tried changing settings, nothing.
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Changing the settings for me worked. Changed the view to close and haven't had to zoom at all and double tapping zooms also fyi.
I'm having similar issues, although, when it opens to home page(google) it's fine, but when I tap the text box for keyboard it zooms in. Then any site I pull up is zoomed way out......
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I'm having similar issues, although, when it opens to home page(google) it's fine, but when I tap the text box for keyboard it zooms in. Then any site I pull up is zoomed way out......
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You can go into the settings and change the default zoom or you can double tap on the location you want to zoom in on. This isn't a bug its more of a design decision
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I personally don't get the hype of this dolphin browser. I find the default browser to be better than any others I have tried. There are a lot of new features in HD, which seem good in theory, but in the end it just seems like an overcrowded browser that does everything the stock one already does. Just my .02
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+1. I always keep coming back to the stock browser. I'll try this one too though, I guess.
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You can go into the settings and change the default zoom or you can double tap on the location you want to zoom in on. This isn't a bug its more of a design decision
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I read that earlier and did that to no avail......I went back to the original....
Wow... this is WAY better thank skyfire, sans the flash video support.
couple questions...
thanks for the heads up. i will give hd a try.
still frustrated that we dont have access to the vast majority of videos out there (not talking just about porn ). is this the same for most if not all smart phones? skyfire at least can play a few vids that all the other browsers cant.
i used dolphin for quite a while and have tried opera mini, skyfire and the stock browser (not bad) but so far xscope has stayed my primary for the longest. nice features and fairly quick.
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Never understood why dolphin gets so much love. It drives me crazy every time I try to use it. I have a touch screen phone so why design a browser that opens a gestures window every time I swipe my screen? I just don't get it. That and today after I installed it the thing became default browser without even asking me. That just pisses me off.
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+1. I always keep coming back to the stock browser. I'll try this one too though, I guess.
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I personally don't get the hype of this dolphin browser. I find the default browser to be better than any others I have tried. There are a lot of new features in HD, which seem good in theory, but in the end it just seems like an overcrowded browser that does everything the stock one already does. Just my .02
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+2 I will try this "HD" version but the original Dolphin is just the Stock browser functionality with a dolphin icon lol
xScope is the best by far... Tried them all, always went back to stock browser until I tried xScope... Now that is all i use.
Its so hard losing the speed of opera but i like it
I downloaded dolphin browser HD from the market last night to give it a try. I wanted to see if it would make the browsing even smoother and faster than it already is on frf91, or run flash better or something. I don't notice anything different. I understand that it has a lot of great features like gestures, tabs, add ons that the regular browser doesn't. But as far as just the performance of page loading or scrolling or anything, do you guys see any difference? What do you like about it?
Lol you answered it in your own post.. It's about the extra features it has
Right I was just wondering if people saw a performance increase in certain types of pages or something. Or if anyone was noticing speed increases.
I don't see any improvements whatsoever with speed. For Dolphin, I have a bunch of gestures set up that makes my lift a lot easier by having a shortcut to "select text".
I guess the only other thing that helps is the convenient access to wipe history and cache. You can also set it to private browsing mode so it never remembers history.
I like being able to exit/close the browser
I have noticed a few features that make Dolphin browser great.
First is the UAs (user agent settings) can be set to desktop client always. I hate going to about:debug every single time on the N1 stock browser. The MT3GS has a stock browser with UAs options in the stock settings. Not having that, after already having it in a stock browser is just annoying.
Downloading is much more efficient with Dolphin for me. I have been able to get everything posted on xda through rapidshare and others. If I am about to download something on my computer, I chrome to phone the link, and use dolphin to download it and astro to move it to the root.
Text clarity is much better on Dolphin. This was especially noticeable when reading text sites, like the news.
The flash player is on Demand, which is annoying when your first testing it out, but I have grown to love that feature. Especially when a lot of sites are fattened up with flash advertisements and useless widgets all over the place. News sites are the worst of all. Even when your in an EDGE only zone a news story should load fine, but an animated advertisement loading in the middle of the page will slow you down.
Downside. I can't seem to establish a secure connection when attempting to connect to a website using verisign to verify the secure connection. I don't know if it is the secure connection that isn't working or the verification? I emailed Dolphin, maybe they will tell me.
I use Dolphin primarily, but the great thing about Android is that you can run both of them, or either of them whenever you please. Getting the best of both worlds.
What I like the most is the simple refresh and stop button next to the address bar
I just wish it had a better theme...the theme tries to be too flashy and the additional themes are equally as gaudy...a simple stock browser theme (same tabs and buttons and whatnot but with the stock android theme styling) would be great...oh well.
Just so I know, dolphin browser uses the default webkit browser core, correct? And it just basically is like the default browser with different settings, UI, and "skin" overtop of the default browser.
no one uses xscope?
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Only for downloading files that Dolphin Browser seems to not want to download...
Skyfire 2.1 has improved alot. Its fast, the multi touch is better than it was with 2.0, and its flash player works much better than before. I use this when browsing casually (not logging in anywhere.) Love to watch worldstarhiphop videos with it cause flash 10.1 performance sucks on that site.
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i use xscope. although i like that dolphin has ability to sync bookmarks
Nope, stopped using Dolphin HD for a couple reasons:
1) It has tabs, which is awesome, but it's a little too complicated to reach them compared to the old dolphin. I liked being able to swipe down to bring down the bar.
2) It's buggy as hell. I've uninstalled and reinstalled it about three times now. Sometimes it doesn't register my clicks, sometimes it brings about the crazy screen problem, and sometimes it just doesn't try to load my pages.
I just wish the stock android browser had tabs implemented.
Xscope has 0 bugs and its fast
The ability for fullscreen mode. That's most important to me as I don't want the notification bar to waste space and to prevent further lcd screen burn in for my N1.
Although that feature is broken in the recent version but a fix is coming.
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Fast yes. Zero bugs? No... it doesn't do text reflow on XDA forums properly vs. Dolphin.
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I do. Downloaded X-Scope and Dolphin the same day. There was something Dolphin did that I did not like, but can't remember what it was. But it was often enough it annoyed me. Never had an issue with X-Scope
Love xscope lite. Looks great, great features. many people don't know this but you can set up Flash to run automatically vs. "on demand"
I wasn't sure if all the browser improvements on 2.2 were just for the stock browser but doesn't seem anyone has noticed a difference in speed between stock and alternatives.
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Fast yes. Zero bugs? No... it doesn't do text reflow on XDA forums properly vs. Dolphin.
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Not sure what you mean by text reflow, but I set it to "wide" in one of the settings and it made the xda forums look exactly the same as dolphin/stock browser.
Hey guys. Firefox 4 has finally released a beta 1 for android devices. For those who are curious before you try, I figured I would update this with a little information on Firefox for android and what you can expect from this beta. After all, its a huge install
-No flash support yet (yet)
-Pinch to zoom has been added (was left out in alpha builds)
-Swiping to the right on any page brings up your open tabs. This will display windows in a small thumbnail which you can close right from there. You can also start a new tab from this area.
-Swiping to the left on any page brings up a few options. The ability to bookmark, back and forward buttons, along with a settings icon to change settings.
-One big plus of firefox mobile that has been added is firefox sync. This allows you to login and sync your browser information with your Firefox browser on your PC.
-Set font. I thought I would mention this since seemed to have mixed reviews on it. There is a font set in the browser, aside from your current system font. Personally, I don't mind it. Its clear, so it works.
-Add-ons! If you're familiar with Firefox desktop then you're familiar with add-ons. Well Mozilla has brought add-ons to Firefox Mobile as well.
-Find in page / share page links easily accessible from hitting "menu" on any page
-Tapping on the address bar brings up bookmarks / history / desktop tap for easy access. This will keep the address bar highlighted in which you can simply search a keyword or enter a website. If you again press menu while this field is highlighted, Firefox will give you options of sites to search for your keywork. Google / wiki etc.
Keep in mind, this is still a BETA release. It has come a long way since the alpha builds, but doesn't seem quite ready for prime time just yet. Grab it and let us know what you think!
You can grab it here : http://bit.ly/9mBett
Downloading now...thanks. 40MB...ouch!
Apps 2 SD support is there...so don't worry about the pain it will pass. Won't use as default browser until performance refinements are made as well as user string options and flash support.
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Won't work on my MT3G 1.2
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I have no issues with stock
Holy ****. The browser is slow ass hell. I'm using Fresh's latest.
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i could see it being good after A LOT OF WORK!!!!
look promising, i like the sync option. but it is slow .
using fresh and only fresh
I'm using AvaFroyo9 and the browser seems very smooth, in fact I'de use it as my default if it currently supported flash.
Update: After further testing, it appears to lag when typing in text fields. Also text boxes with drop down menus do not appear as they should.
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I used the alpha for a week or so and it was absolute crap.
I downloaded this beta earlier today and it is absolutely the fastest browser I have used on Android (and I have used them all)! It renders perfectly and might become my new fav. I'm an avid Dolphin user, but this might make me switch.
Thus far the potential drawbacks include no flash and doesnt appear to close when you go to another program. (Don't know if that is a battery issue or not as I haven't had it long enough.)
In any case, I recommend checking it out.
Update: I'd still recommend playing around with this browser, but it definitely has a ways to go to catch up to Dolphin. Lots of odd little quirks, like struggles with Swype.
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Lol this post made me laugh so hard.
Downloading now
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video of firefox 4
Video of firefox 4 beta running on an EVO 4G:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3itOl55C1k
It's not ready for primetime, but it's on the right track imo.
not the fastest browser out there... it actually lags a lil bit more than stock or skyfire in cm6, but not by much, once it renders it is really smooth tho. Im a fan of firefox and i know that when they get to the final release it will probably be the best browser for android. especially with the sync and add-on features
I've tried it out, feels goo to see it there. But not for me lol. I'll look forward to future builds of it. Hope they'll get speed improvements in there.
Tried it and removed. Love FF, but until its more polished I'll stick with Dolphin HD.
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Tried it and removed. Love FF, but until its more polished I'll stick with Dolphin HD.
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Agreed. Stock browser for me. Quicker than anything I've tried. Keeping it around tho, since I'm a huge Firefox fan having the icon makes me giddy. Hahah much cooler than fennec
So, I've got my TB and have installed an earlier version of Swype (Evo).
I love that swype works great, except for the auto space with the stock SMS (Handcent FTW).
I've tried Dolphin Mini/HD, FF and Miren. I gotta say that I'm loving Miren, but because Swype auto space doesn't work at all, I'm back to the stock browser.
One of the things I love is being able to just type in search words in the browser bar, but I have having to erase the "http://www." everytime in the stock browser.
For example, if I want to search for "amsterdam", I go to the top, touch the browser bar, and see that everything is highlighted...EXCEPT for the "http://www."
So I need to manually delete/clear out the "http://www.", then go back and swype "amsterdam" to search from the bar.
Is there anyway to have the stock browser take out the "http://www." on the Thunderbolt as a default?
p.s. does Miren support swype auto space...if so, how?
I know what you're talking about and it's really annoying. On the Droid X, the browser would just clear out the whole bar. On the TB, i have forced myself into the habit of pressing the search button in browser when I want to search for something.
I must say I like the HTC browser much more than the Moto one, but the way it fills in http:// is just annoying as all hell.
I noticed that http bug in the stock browser as well. I'm sure it will get addressed soon (pardon the pun derp I couldn't help it.) As far as browsers not auto-spacing that's because those browsers use the address bar both for searching and for URLs, and there's no way for your keyboard know which one you are typing. I've been using opera for a while now, it's super fast since it's the only browser that uses hardware acceleration at this point, plus it has a separate address bar and search bar. Give it a try, you'll probably like it.
I don't think my browser does that. Then again if I'm going to do a search while in the browser I just hit the search button.
with the browser open, just tap the search soft key
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I would rather leave it the way it is. I think they actually put a lot of thought into how this works and intended it to be that way. It assumes that if you're tapping the address bar you wanna type an address. How annoying would it be if you had to type the http..... every time. Just use the search button.
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I would rather they bloody ask.. IE made options for that crap.
Check out the extra settings in the browser. It might be in there I would check for you but I don't have time. But I can direct you where to look. Go to browser> type in the url about:debug > hit enter or go whichever. It shouldn't do anything to the page but what will happen is if you hit menu> more> settings. It will give you much more edit menus. Give it a try.
Download and instal the aosp browser add on in the teslacoil rom thread, bak in the happiness!
Anyway to fix these by ediiting the prop build and anyway to adjust the red level in the screen.
These are killing me and driving me nuts!
browser lag is most likely Flash 10.1, install the latest flash or do what I did. Change flash to On-Demand in plugin settings for browser.
and I'm sure there is screen changing things you can do, but I don't do them so can't help ya.
It's not browser lag with flash its in scrolling text btw I have flash 10.2
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Anyway to fix these by ediiting the prop build and anyway to adjust the red level in the screen.
These are killing me and driving me nuts!
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I noticed the red tint today also when my friend was comparing my G2x to his Nexus S...
The page moves quicker if you just move your thumb top to bottom then if you try to fling the page that's what I'm talking about(
Just did browser tests on my galaxy s running team whiskey versus g2x and I am convinced that this browser is not using both cores of the processor
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Just did browser tests on my galaxy s running team whiskey versus g2x and I am convinced that this browser is not using both cores of the processor
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obviously since dual-core is not supported on the OS level, it's like having a dual-core processor on windows 95 machine
WHY are you using default browser??
Use xscope or miren browser! They work much better.
I'm not experiencing either of these issues. No red tint, and the stock browser is smooth as silk.
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browser lag is most likely Flash 10.1, install the latest flash or do what I did. Change flash to On-Demand in plugin settings for browser.
and I'm sure there is screen changing things you can do, but I don't do them so can't help ya.
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No.
I was just coming here to post about the browser lag. Noticeable lag, BTW.
I went into the T-Mobile store earlier today, factory reset the display G2X (I always do that now, since people like to say "phone prolly was runnign 20 apps from all the other people that played with it") and put Flash to On-Demand. Go to WMPowerUser.com (there are MANY others where this happens), open a blog post and scroll. It's choppy as ****. The Vibrant has the exact same issues (slightly worse). It happens on tons of sites, and I don't think Flash has anything to do with it.
I don't know what the issue is, but I'm about to start looking at the HTML coming to the browser (user agent spoofing on a desktop) to see if it is choking on on some specific elements.
I also noticed the data speeds were simply terrible, slower than my Vibrant (had both my Vibrant and HD7 on me).
Google needs to realize that the overall user experience matters more than how many milliseconds advantage your browser engine has over the competition...
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WHY are you using default browser??
Use xscope or miren browser! They work much better.
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Because there are applications/features that tie into the stock browser and using a third party browser just breaks the overall cohesiveness of the user experience.
I've never heard of XScope and didn't think Miren still existed, though, so thanks for that info.
Opera Mobile 11 is better than both of them, and supports Flash...
BOTH browsers are great. MIREN has an option to adjust brightness within the browser which I like to use at night. Xscope has a great developer and has nice features as well. Try both than pick one and un-install the other. Than when an app requires stock browser you will be prompt to select which browser you want to use as default, choose miren or xscope and its that easy!
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Because there are applications/features that tie into the stock browser and using a third party browser just breaks the overall cohesiveness of the user experience.
I've never heard of XScope and didn't think Miren still existed, though, so thanks for that info.
Opera Mobile 11 is better than both of them, and supports Flash...
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I like the stock browser my vibrant with bionix 1.3.1 does not do this at all really thinking of takin her back and waiting it out for the Galaxy 2 s
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BOTH browsers are great. MIREN has an option to adjust brightness within the browser which I like to use at night. Xscope has a great developer and has nice features as well. Try both than pick one and un-install the other. Than when an app requires stock browser you will be prompt to select which browser you want to use as default, choose miren or xscope and its that easy!
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The Samsung stock browser has independent browser controls, and does stuff like chrome to phone work with those third party browsers?
I already use opera as a secondary. The others are useless to me.
The constant pops to choose an app front every app with links is county. I like to avoid that situation.
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No.
I was just coming here to post about the browser lag. Noticeable lag, BTW.
I went into the T-Mobile store earlier today, factory reset the display G2X (I always do that now, since people like to say "phone prolly was runnign 20 apps from all the other people that played with it") and put Flash to On-Demand. Go to WMPowerUser.com (there are MANY others where this happens), open a blog post and scroll. It's choppy as ****. The Vibrant has the exact same issues (slightly worse). It happens on tons of sites, and I don't think Flash has anything to do with it.
I don't know what the issue is, but I'm about to start looking at the HTML coming to the browser (user agent spoofing on a desktop) to see if it is choking on on some specific elements.
I also noticed the data speeds were simply terrible, slower than my Vibrant (had both my Vibrant and HD7 on me).
Google needs to realize that the overall user experience matters more than how many milliseconds advantage your browser engine has over the competition...
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You can change your user-agent setup in the LG hidden menu. Try that and see if it works better.
Look at a logcat when you are browsing around. Absolutely not surprised that it is lagging.
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Look at a logcat when you are browsing around. Absolutely not surprised that it is lagging.
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why what did you see
also what will the hidden menu thing do are you saying that tmobile is throttling the g2x?
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I thought it had a lot of red tint at first, too. Actually your friend's NS is the problem. The colors on the G2x are accurate.
I also have significant lag in the browse as well. Really annoying to say the least.
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Go to WMPowerUser.com (there are MANY others where this happens), open a blog post and scroll. It's choppy as ****. The Vibrant has the exact same issues (slightly worse). It happens on tons of sites, and I don't think Flash has anything to do with it.
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WMPowerUser is completely smooth for me. Actual blog posts included. I wont presume to know whats causing you guys issues, but I haven't ran into choppy scrolling on a single site yet. Maybe its your connection...