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[APP] Is there a need for Dolphin Browser anymore?

I downloaded dolphin browser HD from the market last night to give it a try. I wanted to see if it would make the browsing even smoother and faster than it already is on frf91, or run flash better or something. I don't notice anything different. I understand that it has a lot of great features like gestures, tabs, add ons that the regular browser doesn't. But as far as just the performance of page loading or scrolling or anything, do you guys see any difference? What do you like about it?

Lol you answered it in your own post.. It's about the extra features it has

Right I was just wondering if people saw a performance increase in certain types of pages or something. Or if anyone was noticing speed increases.

I don't see any improvements whatsoever with speed. For Dolphin, I have a bunch of gestures set up that makes my lift a lot easier by having a shortcut to "select text".
I guess the only other thing that helps is the convenient access to wipe history and cache. You can also set it to private browsing mode so it never remembers history.

I like being able to exit/close the browser

I have noticed a few features that make Dolphin browser great.
First is the UAs (user agent settings) can be set to desktop client always. I hate going to about:debug every single time on the N1 stock browser. The MT3GS has a stock browser with UAs options in the stock settings. Not having that, after already having it in a stock browser is just annoying.
Downloading is much more efficient with Dolphin for me. I have been able to get everything posted on xda through rapidshare and others. If I am about to download something on my computer, I chrome to phone the link, and use dolphin to download it and astro to move it to the root.
Text clarity is much better on Dolphin. This was especially noticeable when reading text sites, like the news.
The flash player is on Demand, which is annoying when your first testing it out, but I have grown to love that feature. Especially when a lot of sites are fattened up with flash advertisements and useless widgets all over the place. News sites are the worst of all. Even when your in an EDGE only zone a news story should load fine, but an animated advertisement loading in the middle of the page will slow you down.
Downside. I can't seem to establish a secure connection when attempting to connect to a website using verisign to verify the secure connection. I don't know if it is the secure connection that isn't working or the verification? I emailed Dolphin, maybe they will tell me.
I use Dolphin primarily, but the great thing about Android is that you can run both of them, or either of them whenever you please. Getting the best of both worlds.

What I like the most is the simple refresh and stop button next to the address bar

I just wish it had a better theme...the theme tries to be too flashy and the additional themes are equally as gaudy...a simple stock browser theme (same tabs and buttons and whatnot but with the stock android theme styling) would be great...oh well.

Just so I know, dolphin browser uses the default webkit browser core, correct? And it just basically is like the default browser with different settings, UI, and "skin" overtop of the default browser.

no one uses xscope?

dmo580 said:
no one uses xscope?
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Only for downloading files that Dolphin Browser seems to not want to download...

Skyfire 2.1 has improved alot. Its fast, the multi touch is better than it was with 2.0, and its flash player works much better than before. I use this when browsing casually (not logging in anywhere.) Love to watch worldstarhiphop videos with it cause flash 10.1 performance sucks on that site.

dmo580 said:
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i use xscope. although i like that dolphin has ability to sync bookmarks

Nope, stopped using Dolphin HD for a couple reasons:
1) It has tabs, which is awesome, but it's a little too complicated to reach them compared to the old dolphin. I liked being able to swipe down to bring down the bar.
2) It's buggy as hell. I've uninstalled and reinstalled it about three times now. Sometimes it doesn't register my clicks, sometimes it brings about the crazy screen problem, and sometimes it just doesn't try to load my pages.
I just wish the stock android browser had tabs implemented.

Xscope has 0 bugs and its fast

The ability for fullscreen mode. That's most important to me as I don't want the notification bar to waste space and to prevent further lcd screen burn in for my N1.
Although that feature is broken in the recent version but a fix is coming.

kolyan said:
Xscope has 0 bugs and its fast
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Fast yes. Zero bugs? No... it doesn't do text reflow on XDA forums properly vs. Dolphin.

dmo580 said:
no one uses xscope?
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I do. Downloaded X-Scope and Dolphin the same day. There was something Dolphin did that I did not like, but can't remember what it was. But it was often enough it annoyed me. Never had an issue with X-Scope

Love xscope lite. Looks great, great features. many people don't know this but you can set up Flash to run automatically vs. "on demand"
I wasn't sure if all the browser improvements on 2.2 were just for the stock browser but doesn't seem anyone has noticed a difference in speed between stock and alternatives.

aussiebum said:
Fast yes. Zero bugs? No... it doesn't do text reflow on XDA forums properly vs. Dolphin.
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Not sure what you mean by text reflow, but I set it to "wide" in one of the settings and it made the xda forums look exactly the same as dolphin/stock browser.

browser lag when scolling and screen accuracy

Anyway to fix these by ediiting the prop build and anyway to adjust the red level in the screen.
These are killing me and driving me nuts!

browser lag is most likely Flash 10.1, install the latest flash or do what I did. Change flash to On-Demand in plugin settings for browser.
and I'm sure there is screen changing things you can do, but I don't do them so can't help ya.

It's not browser lag with flash its in scrolling text btw I have flash 10.2

ianandamy said:
Anyway to fix these by ediiting the prop build and anyway to adjust the red level in the screen.
These are killing me and driving me nuts!
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I noticed the red tint today also when my friend was comparing my G2x to his Nexus S...

The page moves quicker if you just move your thumb top to bottom then if you try to fling the page that's what I'm talking about(

Just did browser tests on my galaxy s running team whiskey versus g2x and I am convinced that this browser is not using both cores of the processor

ianandamy said:
Just did browser tests on my galaxy s running team whiskey versus g2x and I am convinced that this browser is not using both cores of the processor
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obviously since dual-core is not supported on the OS level, it's like having a dual-core processor on windows 95 machine

WHY are you using default browser??
Use xscope or miren browser! They work much better.

I'm not experiencing either of these issues. No red tint, and the stock browser is smooth as silk.

xguntherc said:
browser lag is most likely Flash 10.1, install the latest flash or do what I did. Change flash to On-Demand in plugin settings for browser.
and I'm sure there is screen changing things you can do, but I don't do them so can't help ya.
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No.
I was just coming here to post about the browser lag. Noticeable lag, BTW.
I went into the T-Mobile store earlier today, factory reset the display G2X (I always do that now, since people like to say "phone prolly was runnign 20 apps from all the other people that played with it") and put Flash to On-Demand. Go to WMPowerUser.com (there are MANY others where this happens), open a blog post and scroll. It's choppy as ****. The Vibrant has the exact same issues (slightly worse). It happens on tons of sites, and I don't think Flash has anything to do with it.
I don't know what the issue is, but I'm about to start looking at the HTML coming to the browser (user agent spoofing on a desktop) to see if it is choking on on some specific elements.
I also noticed the data speeds were simply terrible, slower than my Vibrant (had both my Vibrant and HD7 on me).
Google needs to realize that the overall user experience matters more than how many milliseconds advantage your browser engine has over the competition...

JasjarMan said:
WHY are you using default browser??
Use xscope or miren browser! They work much better.
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Because there are applications/features that tie into the stock browser and using a third party browser just breaks the overall cohesiveness of the user experience.
I've never heard of XScope and didn't think Miren still existed, though, so thanks for that info.
Opera Mobile 11 is better than both of them, and supports Flash...

BOTH browsers are great. MIREN has an option to adjust brightness within the browser which I like to use at night. Xscope has a great developer and has nice features as well. Try both than pick one and un-install the other. Than when an app requires stock browser you will be prompt to select which browser you want to use as default, choose miren or xscope and its that easy!
N8ter said:
Because there are applications/features that tie into the stock browser and using a third party browser just breaks the overall cohesiveness of the user experience.
I've never heard of XScope and didn't think Miren still existed, though, so thanks for that info.
Opera Mobile 11 is better than both of them, and supports Flash...
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I like the stock browser my vibrant with bionix 1.3.1 does not do this at all really thinking of takin her back and waiting it out for the Galaxy 2 s

JasjarMan said:
BOTH browsers are great. MIREN has an option to adjust brightness within the browser which I like to use at night. Xscope has a great developer and has nice features as well. Try both than pick one and un-install the other. Than when an app requires stock browser you will be prompt to select which browser you want to use as default, choose miren or xscope and its that easy!
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The Samsung stock browser has independent browser controls, and does stuff like chrome to phone work with those third party browsers?
I already use opera as a secondary. The others are useless to me.
The constant pops to choose an app front every app with links is county. I like to avoid that situation.
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N8ter said:
No.
I was just coming here to post about the browser lag. Noticeable lag, BTW.
I went into the T-Mobile store earlier today, factory reset the display G2X (I always do that now, since people like to say "phone prolly was runnign 20 apps from all the other people that played with it") and put Flash to On-Demand. Go to WMPowerUser.com (there are MANY others where this happens), open a blog post and scroll. It's choppy as ****. The Vibrant has the exact same issues (slightly worse). It happens on tons of sites, and I don't think Flash has anything to do with it.
I don't know what the issue is, but I'm about to start looking at the HTML coming to the browser (user agent spoofing on a desktop) to see if it is choking on on some specific elements.
I also noticed the data speeds were simply terrible, slower than my Vibrant (had both my Vibrant and HD7 on me).
Google needs to realize that the overall user experience matters more than how many milliseconds advantage your browser engine has over the competition...
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You can change your user-agent setup in the LG hidden menu. Try that and see if it works better.

Look at a logcat when you are browsing around. Absolutely not surprised that it is lagging.

DebauchedSloth said:
Look at a logcat when you are browsing around. Absolutely not surprised that it is lagging.
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why what did you see
also what will the hidden menu thing do are you saying that tmobile is throttling the g2x?

omarsalmin said:
I noticed the red tint today also when my friend was comparing my G2x to his Nexus S...
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I thought it had a lot of red tint at first, too. Actually your friend's NS is the problem. The colors on the G2x are accurate.

I also have significant lag in the browse as well. Really annoying to say the least.

N8ter said:
Go to WMPowerUser.com (there are MANY others where this happens), open a blog post and scroll. It's choppy as ****. The Vibrant has the exact same issues (slightly worse). It happens on tons of sites, and I don't think Flash has anything to do with it.
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WMPowerUser is completely smooth for me. Actual blog posts included. I wont presume to know whats causing you guys issues, but I haven't ran into choppy scrolling on a single site yet. Maybe its your connection...

[APP] Arrow Dolphin HD 5 Private Beta 1

Have Fun
Don't forget to hit the Thanks button!
EDIT : Woo, my 500th post! and ignore the Arrow in the title, no idea how it got there.

With this run side to side with dolphin hd 4? Will you be posting updated betas or how else do we get them?

lexluthor said:
With this run side to side with dolphin hd 4? Will you be posting updated betas or how else do we get them?
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Nope. It installed on top of my version 4. Still, pretty stable for a beta. And if i can get hold of updated betas, Ill release them too.

Thanks for the link Sacred. Been waiting for this one...

D3XX said:
Thanks for the link Sacred. Been waiting for this one...
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No problem

Hey I was just curious as to why you would recommend this over the stock browser (cm7 nightly 75). I used dolphin back when I think it was in version 3 and although impressive I didn't really see the value in it. Just wondering if anyone can provide some user experiences. Thank you so much!

Ummmm, yeeeeeah I would recommend it without a doubt. It's has the speed of a 4g stock browser i would say even on 3g and it loads pages very quickly.

I'm not impressed. It is definitely better than the stock browser which is horrid - lack of features and loads extremely slow. However when compared to my daily browser, Opera, it feels gauky.
Compared to opera it loads just as fast, displays flash just as well, webpages look just as good. But the app itself just doesn't look good.
Dolphin has the tab bar on top, which makes it easier to access, but it isn't done well. I would rather have them remove that and use the tab page they have that is similar to sense previews. It takes up too much space and is IMO ugly.
The guesture menus are a great idea. And they are easy to bring up. Again, however, I don't like how they look. Either they should take up the whole screen rather than just part. Or have a transparent background so that they are "overlaying" the webpages.
Also, I had it FC on me a couple times while loading pages and changing settings. Not an issue for me as its beta.
The one thing I really like about it over any other browser I've used it that you can change the user agent in settings easily! Opera you can, but you have to edit the opera:config and its a pain.

ebbinger_413 said:
I'm not impressed. It is definitely better than the stock browser which is horrid - lack of features and loads extremely slow. However when compared to my daily browser, Opera, it feels gauky.
Compared to opera it loads just as fast, displays flash just as well, webpages look just as good. But the app itself just doesn't look good.
Dolphin has the tab bar on top, which makes it easier to access, but it isn't done well. I would rather have them remove that and use the tab page they have that is similar to sense previews. It takes up too much space and is IMO ugly.
The guesture menus are a great idea. And they are easy to bring up. Again, however, I don't like how they look. Either they should take up the whole screen rather than just part. Or have a transparent background so that they are "overlaying" the webpages.
Also, I had it FC on me a couple times while loading pages and changing settings. Not an issue for me as its beta.
The one thing I really like about it over any other browser I've used it that you can change the user agent in settings easily! Opera you can, but you have to edit the opera:config and its a pain.
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Remember, its the first beta. It'll get stable over time.

I know, that's why I said the FC's weren't an issue...

Private betas are considered warez, and are not allowed to be posted.

Dolphin for Android Pad V1.0 Beta Released

Here's the announcement from Dolphin. It only works on Honeycomb devices.
http://blog.dolphin-browser.com/2011/07/26/dolphin-for-android-pad-v1-0-beta-released/

advocate2 said:
Here's the announcement from Dolphin. It only works on Honeycomb devices.
http://blog.dolphin-browser.com/2011/07/26/dolphin-for-android-pad-v1-0-beta-released/
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Ya somebody already posted this last night in this same forum. Anyway it does rock, I immediately uninstalled DolphinHD after trying this, it's pretty dang quick and like the look and feel of it.

Scrolling is still jittery like original dolphin hd compared to default, I hope they activate graphic acceleration on next update

How do you use gesture? The Dolphin HD has the button at the lower left corner you touch to put it in gesture mode. Can't find that anywhere on the Dolphin for tab

I like the interface more than HD but getting some FCs on some addons (xmarks)
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I'm using it now and like the way it works.

Youtube speed test shows 30fps, scrolling could be better (slow redraws), there are a few issues when selecting text.
To use gestures press the "triangle in a circle" icon located on the top right and then draw your gesture.

Been using this since yest also... got rid of Dol HD as well. like the feel and speed is not bad. I am a big fan of the stock browser but this could be a good replacement.
accel would be a +.
took me a while to find the gesture button also. I actually think the top right is the best place for it. I think the swipe left and rt with the bk mrk menu coming out on top and a quick tap to get rid of is so much better than sliding the screen over

tonyz3 said:
Been using this since yest also... got rid of Dol HD as well. like the feel and speed is not bad. I am a big fan of the stock browser but this could be a good replacement.
accel would be a +.
took me a while to find the gesture button also. I actually think the top right is the best place for it. I think the swipe left and rt with the bk mrk menu coming out on top and a quick tap to get rid of is so much better than sliding the screen over
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OK, so where is the gesture button?

Hit the arrow button on the upper right and then make a gesture.
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agentgreen said:
Hit the arrow button on the upper right and then make a gesture.
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Thank you, that was easy.

baseballfanz said:
Thank you, that was easy.
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Not very intuitive though hehe
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It's nice, fast and clean. Scrolling isn't too bad. But I still notice keyboard lag, less than on the other 2 browsers I have (stock and Dolphin HD) but it's still there.
Tested flash on yahoo finance, which is an interactive applet I use. It's *fast*

I tried this last night and wasn't too impressed. It crashed on the first launch. Scrolling is not at all smooth like the default browser.
I really like that it automatically imports my bookmarks... that is really intelligent... however, it doesn't maintain the folder structure of the bookmarks, so they end up in one big mess, which kind of makes the auto import a moot point, since a person would have to organize them anyway.
I guess a person could always say "it's a beta"... which would be true... but I can't really see any advantage of this over the stock browser. Just my opinion.

Just tried it right now and the load time is not as fast as Opera Moblie. There is some lag when typing compare to Opera. Overall, for me much better then Dolphin HD. Wish Opera had the font sizes as Dolphin and Default browser. Opera Moblie with bigger font sizes =

Just tried it with youtube on 720p, it runs really well from the browser.

Is there a quick way of getting "history" other than through settings. Having to keep hitting the back button is a bit of a pain.

So is there anything interesting this does that the Stock browser doesn't? It sounds like it's not as smooth as stock.

Midda said:
So is there anything interesting this does that the Stock browser doesn't? It sounds like it's not as smooth as stock.
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Right now - not really. There was adblocker plugin but they removed it. Dolphin uses stock browser's ability to view pages anyway (it doesn't have it's own rendering engine). I like the interface of it better than of stock though.

i like the app but it is still in beta . it feel slower to me than the stock browser.
they final add a forward and backward buttion . i hate useing gersture to navigate
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ics browser sucks?

dont mean to be crude but it really sucks compared to old stock gingerbread sense browser. what can i do to get a smooth browser experience with no flickers and slow rendering after pinch and zoom? i tried maxthon but even that is a bit slow in rendering after pinch and zoom. i flashed the downgrade fix but that still sucks. in gingerbread everything was smooth. any help? thanks

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dont mean to be crude but it really sucks compared to old stock gingerbread sense browser. what can i do to get a smooth browser experience with no flickers and slow rendering after pinch and zoom? i tried maxthon but even that is a bit slow in rendering after pinch and zoom. i flashed the downgrade fix but that still sucks. in gingerbread everything was smooth. any help? thanks
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G'day champ,
I understand what you're saying, I also had these problems. I don't tend to like Maxthon, Firefox is also still in what feels like an early beta stage.
I've moved towards Dolphin Browser HD, and I haven't had any problems with it at all. I'd provide more info, but I'm in a rush.
But let me know how it goes for you, as I'd love to hear your feedback on it.

Are we not liking Chrome, either?

yeah agree , before it was good but now i use chrome beta!

I got ics but I don't have any problems with my browser .

There's nothing wrong with the ics browser on my phone, and I think it's better because it has more functions.

ICS browser works fine for me on my nosense VI rom.

i tried chrome too. not really my cup of tea. im ok with dolphin though. you guys probably forgot what the gingerbread stock browser was like. I jus moved from gingerbread to ice cream sandwich and the difference is huge. i mean this new browser is ok, but i just wish it were more responsive and smooth with the rendering and pinch and zoom

I'm sure it'll be better after official release guys... And chrome is decent but I'm holding untill its released from beta
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I hate that link don't open up to the page I want, when I'm in a third party app.

Finally I am not crazy!!!
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I hate that link don't open up to the page I want, when I'm in a third party app.
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Yes thank you I have been having this problem too. I have only noticed it in Yahoo! Mail though. I have uninstalled it yahoo mail though. I have a full release version of ICS too. You would think they would check that with such popular programs as Yahoo Mail.

Thanks for the info. I've flashed a few ics roms & every1 of them has an unpleasant browsing experience compared to stock GB, especially on the desktop of utube. Does dolphin HD scroll & pinch to zoom smoothly on the desktop utube? I'd like to know b4 I reflash again for the 20th time. Thanx in advance

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Are we not liking Chrome, either?
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I'm using Chrome Beta, and has so many bugs. I use Opera 11.62 for my computer's browser, but Opera on mobile doesn't like HTML 5. So, I still use Chrome even though it kind of sucks.

Yes it does.
Though this may work better in devices with hardware buttons such as the Sensation (I wonder if it does):
There's no standard menu button and you have to hunt for it in each application, as in all of ICS
The menu "...." icon, in Google's finest new style, is unintuitive and most often hidden
Can't search the page or perform a menu action withotu abandoning my current scroll position
But I've had even worse issues:
I can't find where can I change my User-Agent so that I don't get the crappy "mobile" sites from everybody; I haven't paid 500 € on a large screen phone to get crippled versions
I can't find where can I add custom search engines
Screen estate is often wasted with yet another obnoxious toolbar made of obnoxious Google style icons (i.e. ugly, monochrome, abstract and unintuitive)
And that's just from 5 minutes of use. Back to Opera Mobile — I suggest you do the same; it's faster, has better features and a much better UI (well, anything has a much better UI compared to Google's stuff since Google+).

I've choosen for myself "ICS Browser+".