I have T-Mobile prepaid and live in Illinois. I bought a used cdma Rhodium on eBay. It had generic HTC branding on front had a stock US Cellular rom with Winmobile 6.5 installed and has the 3.5mm headphone jack on the bottom. So I guess this is what's called a "worldphone". The phone came sim unlocked. And I put hard-spl on it. I put my sim in and set the phone to gsm and it didn't find my T-Mobile network. So just for the fun of it I flashed a stock Sprint rom from HTCs website on the phone that has Winmobile 6.1 and a 1.96.00WF radio. I set the phone to gsm and my T-Mobile network registered! I can make and receive calls. Am I misunderstanding something or from what I've read on this site is this not supposed to be happening- that only a WU radio should work with gsm in the US, not a WF radio? I don't know what this means but on the phone screen to the far right of the word T-Mobile there is a circle with crosshairs inside, and sometimes has a slash thru it. But the phone works fine.
bretmoy said:
I have T-Mobile prepaid and live in Illinois. I bought a used cdma Rhodium on eBay. It had generic HTC branding on front had a stock US Cellular rom with Winmobile 6.5 installed and has the 3.5mm headphone jack on the bottom. So I guess this is what's called a "worldphone". The phone came sim unlocked. And I put hard-spl on it. I put my sim in and set the phone to gsm and it didn't find my T-Mobile network. So just for the fun of it I flashed a stock Sprint rom from HTCs website on the phone that has Winmobile 6.1 and a 1.96.00WF radio. I set the phone to gsm and my T-Mobile network registered! I can make and receive calls. Am I misunderstanding something or from what I've read on this site is this not supposed to be happening- that only a WU radio should work with gsm in the US, not a WF radio? I don't know what this means but on the phone screen to the far right of the word T-Mobile there is a circle with crosshairs inside, and sometimes has a slash thru it. But the phone works fine.
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verizon phones work fine with WF radio. sprint (and I think uscellular) branded phones need the WU radio. if yours has generic HTC on it then it's not a sprint branded phone for sure, because that has "sprint" written on it.
Well that's good to know, thank you. I thought you always had to have a wu radio to use gsm in the US on RhodiumW but I guess not. Incidentally, I tried a uscc wf radio and a later sprint wf radio but neither of them worked. Only the Sprint 1.96.00wf worked for some reason. Thanks again for your reply.
bretmoy said:
Well that's good to know, thank you. I thought you always had to have a wu radio to use gsm in the US on RhodiumW but I guess not. Incidentally, I tried a uscc wf radio and a later sprint wf radio but neither of them worked. Only the Sprint 1.96.00wf worked for some reason. Thanks again for your reply.
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Same here im using the same radio and i get service with tmo
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verizon phones work fine with WF radio. sprint (and I think uscellular) branded phones need the WU radio. if yours has generic HTC on it then it's not a sprint branded phone for sure, because that has "sprint" written on it.
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when you say generic you mean it should not have a sprint tag or logo on it any where right?
My tp2 has HTC on the left and Sprint on the right
just got this phone aas a refurb project. popped in tmo sim....test call worked. its logo'd out sprint. didnt get a chance to test data. any body got a spare one or atleast the housing? ....and maybe the keyboard lol. cant wit to tinker with it.....especilly fix this dmn button
DroidFreek said:
when you say generic you mean it should not have a sprint tag or logo on it any where right?
My tp2 has HTC on the left and Sprint on the right
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well, that's interesting, if it does say sprint on it, it probably is sprint branded unless someone replaced the mainboard in the phone (or changed the casing on it...same end result).
by the way, the specific radio version you are referring to, is one we've patched to make a "WU" radio out of it. you also mention, that other radios don't work, just this one. this suggests one of two possibilities to me: either you actually have the "WU" radio (check radio version in settings to verify) or you have some rare t-mobile sim card that has an mccmnc that isn't checked by that specific radio and is checked by the other versions.
Jataadroid said:
just got this phone aas a refurb project. popped in tmo sim....test call worked. its logo'd out sprint. didnt get a chance to test data. any body got a spare one or atleast the housing? ....and maybe the keyboard lol. cant wit to tinker with it.....especilly fix this dmn button
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You should check ebay you can probably get one for parts or buy the actual part
cmonex said:
by the way, the specific radio version you are referring to, is one we've patched to make a "WU" radio out of it. you also mention, that other radios don't work, just this one. this suggests one of two possibilities to me: either you actually have the "WU" radio (check radio version in settings to verify) or you have some rare t-mobile sim card that has an mccmnc that isn't checked by that specific radio and is checked by the other versions.
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Yes, the radio I flashed was the WF radio because at first I flashed the stock win6.1 rom from HTC's website and it worked. And then I flashed the stock 6.5 rom and flashed the radio win6.1 uses over it and in sys info is says WF right now. So you're probably right about that particular radio not checking certain sims. I use a prepaid sim that I've had for several years.
cmonex said:
well, that's interesting, if it does say sprint on it, it probably is sprint branded unless someone replaced the mainboard in the phone (or changed the casing on it...same end result).
by the way, the specific radio version you are referring to, is one we've patched to make a "WU" radio out of it. you also mention, that other radios don't work, just this one. this suggests one of two possibilities to me: either you actually have the "WU" radio (check radio version in settings to verify) or you have some rare t-mobile sim card that has an mccmnc that isn't checked by that specific radio and is checked by the other versions.
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The T-Mobile SIM card shouldn't make a difference. It's the radio frequencies that are blocked out by the default Sprint radio, IIRC. Pick your poison, no foreign SIM card that I've tried while in North America will pick up a GSM signal on a Sprint TP2 unless it's been flashed with a WU radio.
The Sprint devices are factory unlocked so they shouldn't even be checking the SIM.
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Hi,
I have an AT&T Tilt and I am trying to make it work here in Brazil, with Claro provider.
I did the SIM unlock, SUPERCID and Unlocked security, BUT I still can't get any service. I also tried several ROMs and RADIO combinations.
My phone keeps searching for network and don't find anything.
I already set the band mode to GSM (which is the band type here where I live) and still can't get it working.
Anyone have an idea about what can be wrong?
Thanks in advance!
You try the network configuration wizard? You can poll the device to make sure the SIM is indeed unlocked too. Also, make sure the radio you select is compatible with your rom choice.
goingtobrazil said:
Hi,
I have an AT&T Tilt and I am trying to make it work here in Brazil, with Claro provider.
I did the SIM unlock, SUPERCID and Unlocked security, BUT I still can't get any service. I also tried several ROMs and RADIO combinations.
My phone keeps searching for network and don't find anything.
I already set the band mode to GSM (which is the band type here where I live) and still can't get it working.
Anyone have an idea about what can be wrong?
Thanks in advance!
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It could be the frequency band selected for the GSM network. I don't think it's a SIM problem, since that usually comes up with an 'Incorrect SIM card' message, when it's not unlocked.
There are two bands for GMS, and I'm not exactly sure how you would select which one to use, since I don't see the option under Phone (green button)/Menu/Options. Another phone I had had a selection screen available where you could specifically select which band to use.
/drt
Hi,
my ROM is 1.82.721.1 WWE and RADIO is 1.27.14.09. I think there isn't any incompability on both.
I already tried to select the GSM bands manually. No success.
I also disabled HSDPA to prevent any issue.
I forgot to mention that the network wizard does not have an option for chosing Brazil as country.
Additionally, every time I turn the phone on appears the following message:
YOUR CURRENT OPERATOR (72402) IS NOT SUPPORTED. YOU SHOULD OBTAIN AN UPDATE FROM YOUR DEVICE VENDOR.
Another info: I am using Windows Mobile 6.0.
Looking here, I see that the carriers using Claro Name use GSM1800 (and 3G850) which are supported by the tilt.
I wonder if the problem is that the IMEI number needs to be registered with the carrier? I know some european countries (like turkey) require foriegn IMEI numbers to be registered before they will work.
goingtobrazil said:
Hi,
my ROM is 1.82.721.1 WWE and RADIO is 1.27.14.09.
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isnt that a htc rom, but an at&t radio?
XtreMe_G said:
isnt that a htc rom, but an at&t radio?
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Good catch, not only is that "an" at&t Radio but it is quite specifically "the" at&t Radio that only works with the at&t 1.6x.xxx Roms.
Although the OP did state they have used other Radios & Rom.
XtreMe_G said:
isnt that a htc rom, but an at&t radio?
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So, which combination would fit?
I don't need any at&t program, so the ROM would be e HTC.
Well, firstly, you must be getting a signal in order to get the operator MCC-MNC, so that part's out of the way.
Secondly, the error seems to originate with the "Network Wizard" program which handles auto-setup. Personally, I don't cook this program into my ROM's as I prefer to cook the settings right in and avoid the added bulk of that program.
Thirdly, a google search brings this up: http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cach...TED&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Lastly, it almost seems as if the Network Wizard is stopping you from using the network due to not having configuration settings for it? That's pretty whacked out.
kyphur said:
Good catch, not only is that "an" at&t Radio but it is quite specifically "the" at&t Radio that only works with the at&t 1.6x.xxx Roms.
Although the OP did state they have used other Radios & Rom.
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I flashed the following: HTC 1.56.405.5 ROM and 1.27.12.11 RADIO (they come in a pack, so must be compatible).
There isn't the Network Wizard anymore.
Now I have Connection Setup and the message does not come when I turn on the phone, but the problem remains, no network.
There is 2 questions I wanted to make and can be the source of the problem:
1- Can I flash HTC roms in a AT&T Tilt?
2- Does make any difference choosing a country and operator at Network Wizard or Connection Setup? The phone does not work if I ignore it?
goingtobrazil said:
I flashed the following: HTC 1.56.405.5 ROM and 1.27.12.11 RADIO (they come in a pack, so must be compatible).
There isn't the Network Wizard anymore.
Now I have Connection Setup and the message does not come when I turn on the phone, but the problem remains, no network.
There is 2 questions I wanted to make and can be the source of the problem:
1- Can I flash HTC roms in a AT&T Tilt?
2- Does make any difference choosing a country and operator at Network Wizard or Connection Setup? The phone does not work if I ignore it?
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Not to be funny, but go to the CommManager and see if the Phone is turned on
I flashed several ROMz and the default in the CommManager was Phone off...it had me going for about 15 minutes the 1st time and 10 minutes the 2nd time.
If your Rom-Radio combination is correct...again, make sure the phone is on in the CommManager.
dwny said:
Not to be funny, but go to the CommManager and see if the Phone is turned on
I flashed several ROMz and the default in the CommManager was Phone off...it had me going for about 15 minutes the 1st time and 10 minutes the 2nd time.
If your Rom-Radio combination is correct...again, make sure the phone is on in the CommManager.
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Checked this several times. It is not that.
It's possible that my phone will only work with a brazilian operator ROM??
goingtobrazil said:
Checked this several times. It is not that.
It's possible that my phone will only work with a brazilian operator ROM??
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Hi..
I'm from Brazil and my Kaiser has no problems connecting to my network (TIM).
Afaik it shouldn't have any problems with Claro; take a look: http://www.pdabr.com/viewtopic.php?p=22232&sid=e678102e6b1f73d179dace0ec6c57793
As you see, their tytnII works fine with claro (they are trying to configure gprs)
kyphur said:
Looking here, I see that the carriers using Claro Name use GSM1800 (and 3G850) which are supported by the tilt.
I wonder if the problem is that the IMEI number needs to be registered with the carrier? I know some european countries (like turkey) require foriegn IMEI numbers to be registered before they will work.
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I'm not sure if the IMEI registration for foreign sims is correct... I've taken my Kaiser (also Hermes) to Brazil and Turkey and they worked fine. I did have problems in Brazil with auto network selection but my phones worked fine with TIM and Claro when manually selected.
On a note with the IMEI - did you buy the phone new or used (ebay, small dark shop, man on a street corner etc). If it is used then there is a possibility that it's stolen and the IMEI is barred - you can check this by calling your service provider.
Welcome to the problem , GOINGTOBRAZIL!
Now it seems that there are more atleast 3 ppl here in the forum with AT&T TILT having this no signal problems! first i got it, then goingtobrazil, and then Williegonza!
Following are threads made by me and williegonza:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1918915
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375524
Unfortunately i am stuck with this problem from past one month, I have tried a lot of different methods, but have failed. So long, i am also looking for the solution for this problem...
This morning a friend of mine told me that around 10% of AT&T Tilt phones are having this problem coming up!
Please help us guys!
thanks a lot!
Insane Devil said:
Welcome to the problem , GOINGTOBRAZIL!
Unfortunately i am stuck with this problem from past one month, and have posted 2 threads on this problem here in the forum, and no replies to one of them, and for the other thread, was asked to reflash original htc rom.
I have tried a lot of different methods, but have failed.
So long, i am also looking for the solution for this problem...
Please help us guys!
thanks a lot!
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Do you guys both have the TILT or HTC version of the Kaiser? Mine is HTC branded and worked fine in Brazil.
Did you buy your phones new and in Brazil? If so then you should just get your supplier to replace them. If they are used then there is a chance that they are stolen and the IMEI is barred. If you got them overseas there may be some carrier lock installed (I seem to remember something like this with the X01HT versions of the Hermes).
Sorry I can't help out on this but maybe by bumping this thread someone else can help.
It may help if you give some more info about your phones such as:
ROM version
Radio version
HardSPL yes/no
Information from bootloader screen
Does your device info IMEI number match the one on the sticker?
This might help the technical gurus spot a solution.
Hello ACH2,
Yes, we 3 are having the TILT phones from AT&T.
For me, it was working fine for a month, and suddenly one fine morning it stopped working.
Before that i had flashed couple of dutty's roms and no problems at all... it all happened suddenly!
About the rom and radio versions, i think that wouldn't make a difference, as i have gone thru all the roms and radios here and nothing helps.
I have tried the WM6.1 roms with respective radios, and also the WM6.0 roms with their respective radios.
This is totally a strange problem that has started erupting in the AT&T Tilts all of a sudden!
I request the mods to make this sticky, so that more people can report their problems here in this single thread, unlike the 3 threads floating now for the same problem.
Thanks.
Hi all,,
Again asking for some solution to this problem... please guys let us know if anything can be done of our phones...
Thanks a lot.
I had the same problem and here' show to fix it.
Hi,
I had the same problem and tried everything.. So I contacted HTC and mailed in and they fix it for free.. They said the main board wasn't working propraly so they replace it for free. KNow I have my phone and it works good. Just go to HTC.com and contact them and make sure you tell them that you bough it from an att store.
Hey people, sorry if there is already a post for this but i'm a little confused about my phone. Is it possible for the verizon touch pro 2 to be used on GSM networks like AT&T? (I think its GSM) or overseas like in europe? A lot of people are saying yes and no, i just want some clarification.
Thanks. Just got my Touch pro 2 like 3 weeks ago and still figuring everything out. lol
The Verizon TP2 has both CDMA and GfSM, The phone is unlocked will work on edge band here in the states on T-Mobile and *((. Overseas without unlocking it will work on some 3G netwiroks depending the bands.
Yes to your question....
Verizon Wireless is not strictly CDMA; it too is GSM 850 in rural areas you expect AT&T to cover, and in fact T-Mobile has roaming agreements with on the 850 spectrum. It's not at all uncommon for VW to have GSM where it's bought a previous GSM territory as it did recently in both Alabama (Unicel) and Louisiana (Centennial Communications); both GSM 850.
ya. it will work. its a quad band phone. so you'll get 3g on t-mobile and att.
I got my SIM unlocked and threw in my buddy's T-mo SIM and made a phone call. The caller ID came up with his #.
yes i worked for me.. i used http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/ and it was a breeze.. im using a sprint touch pro 2... with Verizon firmware.. on the At&t network..
Only issues i have so far is my internet settings mess everyone once in a while and i have to reapplya At&t internet settings cab i have.. and i cant get 3g to work.. just Edge. and my MMS only sends.. i'm having issues with recieving MMS. Not sure if these issues are fixable but hopefully.
xpressyourcell said:
I got my SIM unlocked and threw in my buddy's T-mo SIM and made a phone call. The caller ID came up with his #.
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Mine is doing that as well. How can we fix that?
Hey guys, one quick question:
I'm interested in buying tis phone but sadly I cant seem to find one available in Toronto or Markham (Ontario) so i'm thinking of buying one from TELUS (CDMA) since i heard they are sim un-lockable.
This post is merely a request for re-confirmation about that ability.
Will I be able to buy the HTC Touch Pro2 from Telus and sim-unlock it to use on Rogers/Fido Networks? Any limitations/advantages?
Can Telus do that unlock for me or is it a DIY software method?
I'm sorry if come off somewhat noob in my question :x I'm not new to the phone development but I havent been involved in the scene for almost 2 years and jus wanted a nudge in the right direction
Seems like a fun phone, esp with the ability to dual-boot android (i hate wm6...lol). Thanks again
kajiri said:
Hey guys, one quick question:
I'm interested in buying tis phone but sadly I cant seem to find one available in Toronto or Markham (Ontario) so i'm thinking of buying one from TELUS (CDMA) since i heard they are sim un-lockable.
This post is merely a request for re-confirmation about that ability.
Will I be able to buy the HTC Touch Pro2 from Telus and sim-unlock it to use on Rogers/Fido Networks? Any limitations/advantages?
Can Telus do that unlock for me or is it a DIY software method?
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Yes there is one limitation. If you have the Rogers/Fido Id caller (7$ option), it will not work on the phone.
Instead of showing the caller name and number(even if he is not in your contacts), It will only show the Number.
bteljuice said:
Yes there is one limitation. If you have the Rogers/Fido Id caller (7$ option), it will not work on the phone.
Instead of showing the caller name and number(even if he is not in your contacts), It will only show the Number.
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wow that sucks :/
so if someone i dont know calls me, (even with the callder ID service) only their number will show up? -_-
no way to get around that? i get a lot of people who call me outside of my contact list and it'd be annoying to not know whos calling lol
thanks for the reply
how can you tell the difference between a normal GSM TP2 and a GSM/CDMA one?
hi i have an htc touch pro 2 tha i bought in usa from sprint and it is boths cdma/gsm but i used here in greece in gsm,i wand to upgrate my rom to 6.5 is there any problem if i put an gsm only greek rom?
bteljuice said:
I got my SIM unlocked and threw in my buddy's T-mo SIM and made a phone call. The caller ID came up with his #.Mine is doing that as well. How can we fix that?
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i'm pretty sure there is nothing to fix. since are using someone elses sim it is assigned to their phone number. the only sim that would show with your number would probably be the one that came with the phone. (if it did come with one). i have no idea how it would grab your number from the cdma radio but i guess thats how the stock one knows your #. if you put a different sim in it, it will have a different number.
psyman13 said:
hi i have an htc touch pro 2 tha i bought in usa from sprint and it is boths cdma/gsm but i used here in greece in gsm,i wand to upgrate my rom to 6.5 is there any problem if i put an gsm only greek rom?
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DO NOT put a gsm rom on a sprint touch pro2! your phone is cdma!
well i ran into this problem on my htc fuze that i put a custom rom on for rogers. caller id would only display the phone number and not name. after few days of searching i have found a (rilphone for rogers CNAP.cab this is gsm patch dont try on cdma phone wont work) patch for the radio just install from phone soft reset and caller id with name worked. But that was a gsm phone. i dont know if maybe can work on some radio cab patch that could get this to work as well. Just posting this to see if anyone is up for the challenge.
Hi, I am sort of new here but I know enough to get around on what I need to do, but I am at a stand still...
I bought a US Cellular Touch Pro 2 from Ebay which was "unlocked" supposedly, but my ATT phone card does nothing in it, I can get digital roaming but ATT will not work on the phone.
So my question is, what are the needed steps in order to get my Touch Pro 2 to get working on the ATT network. As far as I know the Security is not unlocked.
Thanks ahead of time,
if you need any other information please ask =D
-Cyanide
Note: I bought an unlock code from Ebay earlier, but since it says its unlocked I cant use the code, unless there is another way to use that code.
if im right and some1 here can correct me if im not. i think u have to sim unlock it for it to work.
My US Cell TP2 came SIM unlocked
Same as above, my us cell tp2 came sim unlocked also
I just got one from ebay, and I had to security unlock it and install appropriate radio to get it working on at&t
Will any of the GSM labeled AT&T work or is there one that's best?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
will it work with umts 850????
do you know if someone got it working????
I just bought three of these off ebay that were 'unlocked'
yes it says 'your phone is sim unlocked' in the security tab but my ATT cards are not working
someone mentioned adding software or something. can someone please show me how to do this asap. we kinda counted on having the phones today.
i bought a us cellular on ebay as well. had to security unlock it. Got code from this site and then bought from olipro. this should help.
http://rhodiumw.htc-unlocks.com/
http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/unlock-the-sprint-touch-pro2-radio-to-get-us-gsm
the first one you have to but then the second link you need to watch to get the imei number before you buy unlock stuff. hope this helps. trin to give back what i learned.
There are two different kinds of SIM Unlocks
There is the stock SIM unlock which allows you to use the sim card for other countries. You click on settings, and sim management and it says the sim is unlocked. However, that does not mean that you can use it with ATT or TMobile here in the united states. Reboot your phone and you will most likely see that your radio says something like 2.10.00WF The WF is what is screwin you over with ATT. You need to pay for and use the SIM unlock from Olipro, (there are tons of links already for it.) and unlock the phone. Then put a WU radio on it. I find that the best one that works for USCC is the 1.96.10WU Radio. It has the least amount of DATA crashes. Hope that helps ya out a bit.
jmy72 said:
There is the stock SIM unlock which allows you to use the sim card for other countries. You click on settings, and sim management and it says the sim is unlocked. However, that does not mean that you can use it with ATT or TMobile here in the united states. Reboot your phone and you will most likely see that your radio says something like 2.10.00WF The WF is what is screwin you over with ATT. You need to pay for and use the SIM unlock from Olipro, (there are tons of links already for it.) and unlock the phone. Then put a WU radio on it. I find that the best one that works for USCC is the 1.96.10WU Radio. It has the least amount of DATA crashes. Hope that helps ya out a bit.
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weird. olinex recomended the 2.32.00wu radio over all the others. but seeing as how my data connection never wants to stay open, maybe i will give that one a try.
Ok so i got the paid unlocking tool and ran it. it appears to have worked.
I then went to this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578659
and installed both the us cellular and sprint (the first and fourth link).
was that a mistake?
Anyway it doesnt say att when i put in a non active sim card.
is it still ready to use? also when i install the radios should it be in global or gsm mode or does it matter?
nx_2000 said:
will any of the gsm labeled at&t work or is there one that's best?
Forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
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Do not install any of those GSM radios to any CDMA phone!!!!!
You will BRICK IT!!!!1
I got a US Cellular HTC TP2 phone too don't use those ****ing radios!
DaveNavy said:
The US Cellular Version on the TP2 is a CDMA AND GSM PHONE you can flash other ROMS than just CDMA this pork chop has no clue what he is talking about.
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ummm, this is acdma phone with just a extra gsm radio so you can only flash CDMA roms
Wrong??!!! WTF! A troll in this forum?
DaveNavy said:
The US Cellular Version on the TP2 is a CDMA AND GSM PHONE you can flash other ROMS than just CDMA this pork chop has no clue what he is talking about.
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YOU SHOULD BE BANNED FOR TROLLING AND MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS! YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT!...
Why don't you go ahead buy a CDMA TP2 phone and flash a GSM radio or ROM, go ahead. And make someone record your face and the device. Let's see how you enjoy turning a working phone into a black death piece of hardware that will not respond or do anything.
You better delete your post before someone that doesn't know any better follow your misguided advice and brick their phone!
@DaveNavy,
Read up a bit on this device before advising people. Flashing a GSM rom on a native CDMA device (RhodiumW) is the best and fastest way to end up with a brick. Please make sure about these things before you post anything like this again.
@ all,
Please stop the flaming right here.
egzthunder1 said:
@DaveNavy,
Read up a bit on this device before advising people. Flashing a GSM rom on a native CDMA device (RhodiumW) is the best and fastest way to end up with a brick. Please make sure about these things before you post anything like this again.
@ all,
Please stop the flaming right here.
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I dont think I was flaming. I wa just correcting his mistake
How long did it take after you paid to get the download link?
Works great using windows 7. I am running Att with data smooth now.
Hello All,
I hope someone can help me with this.
I have a TP2 (Sprint) and I need to use it for At&t.
The first thing I did was unlock the device using RhodiumWUnlocker from Olipro (and made my donation ).
I did all steps, and everything went fine. No problems. And it detected AT&T
Then I flashed the ROM with EnergyROM Leo Manila 2.5 WM6.5 v 16Feb2010, By NRGZ28. (File: Energy.RHOD500.23529.Leo_MaxManila.16.Feb.2010.rar) - Still all well, no problems.
Then it went back to stock and could not detect AT&T. So I flashed the Radio Version: 4.49.25.91 from this thread: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939.
Now I cannot turn on my phone at all - No "touchpro2" screen, no bootloader, nothing at all. The phone doesn't react to any combinations of buttons to turn on or load up bootloader. When I connect the phone to the computer (Vista by the way) the charging orange light comes on for about 3 minutes then goes off. Then I press the power button and the light comes back on, but nothing else happens to the phone.
Please help!!! Let me know what's wrong and how I can fix it, please!!! I'll make another donation to fix it.
Thanks!
I'm no expert but it sounds like you may have flashed a CDMA Rhodium with GSM firmware. I had a quick look and it seems the Sprint Rhodium is CDMA, you should have a look at the CDMA Rhodium forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=517
I'm not totally sure of the GSM / CDMA thing because I'm not in the U.S. it's not something I need to worry about.
Good luck dude
Yeah the more I look at this, the more I am convinced this is what has happened.
You used CDMA HardSPL (RhodiumWUnlocker)
Then flashed a CDMA ROM (Energy.RHOD500 ...)
but your mistake was to flash a GSM Radio ROM (I followed the URL you gave and up popped the GSM Radio ROM thread)
I don't know if this is recoverable but searching the CDMA forum would be a good start. You can't be the first person this has happened to.
Thanks for the response, but I am certain I flashed the correct ROM.
*I went to the wingster website
*I selected CDMA ROM's
*Clicked on EnergyROM Leo
*Clicked on Download - Hotfile.com
*Selected this ROM: Energy.RHOD500.23529.Leo_MaxManila.16.Feb.2010.rar
When I flashed this ROM, the phone loaded up without any issues. The only problem was that I could not make calls because it could not detect the AT&T SIM card. So I flashed the radio shown on the post from xda, and the PC said congratulations, everything is complete and good. At this time, the cell phone rebooted and it just never came back on.
Thanks for the help!!
Thanks MadBeef, I will research the CDMA forum.
The Main ROM you flashed was fine. It's the Radio ROM you flashed that killed it, because your phone is CDMA hardware but now it has GSM Radio ROM on it. That's my theory anyway, I'm hoping someone a bit more experienced with CDMA will be able to chime in.
If you can get back into the bootloader somehow, you should be able to flash a CDMA Radio ROM.
I only read the first line of your problem...sprint to at&t...it can never happen. Sprint is cdma which has no sim and at&t is a gsm which has a sim. You better have insurance so you can run over your now "speed bump" and get a new one.
shenriquez84 said:
Thanks for the response, but I am certain I flashed the correct ROM.
*I went to the wingster website
*I selected CDMA ROM's
*Clicked on EnergyROM Leo
*Clicked on Download - Hotfile.com
*Selected this ROM: Energy.RHOD500.23529.Leo_MaxManila.16.Feb.2010.rar
When I flashed this ROM, the phone loaded up without any issues. The only problem was that I could not make calls because it could not detect the AT&T SIM card. So I flashed the radio shown on the post from xda, and the PC said congratulations, everything is complete and good. At this time, the cell phone rebooted and it just never came back on.
Thanks for the help!!
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ROM fine.
Radio ROM = BAD.
RHOD400 and RHOD500 are the model numbers for the Sprint and Verizon TP2s respectively. Other carriers also share these model numbers, but those are the big two.
The Radio ROM you flashed however is for the GSM only TP2, not the combo CDMA/GSM TP2 that you have.
Flashing that Radio ROM was a HUGE no-no. Boom.
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I only read the first line of your problem...sprint to at&t...it can never happen. Sprint is cdma which has no sim and at&t is a gsm which has a sim. You better have insurance so you can run over your now "speed bump" and get a new one.
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You should put a little more time into research before jumping in with the flip comments.
1) Sprint does have SIM cards. I've got one in my hand. (No, they're not used in all phones of course, but Sprint does have their own).
2) The Sprint Touch Pro 2 can very well be used on ATT once it is security unlocked and a patched Radio ROM is flashed. To say "it can never happen" is flat out wrong because it's been happening for a few months.
3) The CDMA Touch Pro 2 models (RHOD400 and RHOD500) aren't just CDMA. They are CDMA/GSM/UMTS worldphones, supporting operation in all three modes.
I'm Sorry Gamescan if I did not understand correctly. Does this mean there is no help? There's absolutely nothing I can do to revert this and fix it?
I really appreciate all the help!!
I wanted to reply to Akademik's comment, but I didn't have time. This is not the first phone I flash, but it is the first CDMA/GSM phone. I know this phone is dualmode, else I wouldn't have bought it to use it in AT&T.
Thanks again!
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I'm Sorry Gamescan if I did not understand correctly. Does this mean there is no help? There's absolutely nothing I can do to revert this and fix it?
I really appreciate all the help!!
I wanted to reply to Akademik's comment, but I didn't have time. This is not the first phone I flash, but it is the first CDMA/GSM phone. I know this phone is dualmode, else I wouldn't have bought it to use it in AT&T.
Thanks again!
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Can you connect to it via a mtty terminal?
I don't know if the SD card flash method would work here. If it were my phone I'd try it, but if it's not getting as far as the bootloader I think the chances are slim Maybe while there is no SIM card in it, give the radio ROM less to do?
Found some CDMA radios here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90342
Sounds like you might be screwed but there's a few ideas you can try. Good luck.
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mtty
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I knew that would get a mention sooner or later uh oh hehe
Sorry, but what's a mtty terminal? That's new material for me...
and as Madbeef said, I have no access to the bootloader screen. I'm pressing all possible combinations of keys, and nothing.
Thanks again.
gamescan said:
ROM fine.
You should put a little more time into research before jumping in with the flip comments.
1) Sprint does have SIM cards. I've got one in my hand. (No, they're not used in all phones of course, but Sprint does have their own).
2) The Sprint Touch Pro 2 can very well be used on ATT once it is security unlocked and a patched Radio ROM is flashed. To say "it can never happen" is flat out wrong because it's been happening for a few months.
3) The CDMA Touch Pro 2 models (RHOD400 and RHOD500) aren't just CDMA. They are CDMA/GSM/UMTS worldphones, supporting operation in all three modes.
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shenriquez84 said:
I'm Sorry Gamescan if I did not understand correctly. Does this mean there is no help? There's absolutely nothing I can do to revert this and fix it?
I really appreciate all the help!!
I wanted to reply to Akademik's comment, but I didn't have time. This is not the first phone I flash, but it is the first CDMA/GSM phone. I know this phone is dualmode, else I wouldn't have bought it to use it in AT&T.
Thanks again!
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this result is based on shenriquez american flag in his pro. basically saying hes in america using an american sprint tp2 and trying to use american att service.
gamescan, if i said it cant be dont its quite obvious ive done research through trials and also working a phone carrier for 3 years before finding a better job...THIS CANNOT BE DONE. the dual mode in the sprint tp2 is ment for when people travel to europe, they can pop their "european sim" in and be on their merry way. european cell towers accept the frequency of the sprint tp2 and establish a connection. the US towers have "locked out" tmo and att from being used in the sprint tp2. the reason why you found att on connection setup was that your phone was basically saying" yes att is here, but your not connecting". shenriquez i followed the link to the radio you flashed before you got "shut off". you shouldnt have flashed a GSM radio on a SPRINT TP2...you are bricked my dude. you gave your phone a seizure man.
shenriquez84 said:
Sorry, but what's a mtty terminal? That's new material for me...
and as Madbeef said, I have no access to the bootloader screen. I'm pressing all possible combinations of keys, and nothing.
Thanks again.
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Google mtty (or search for it on here).
Short version it's text based, but it's pretty much the lowest level access that a consumer can get to a HTC device without ripping the sucker open, manually desoldering the flash chip and putting in another.
If you're not getting the tri-color bootloader screen, there is still the possibility of saving it via terminal commands, but it's not straightforward (and depending on what happened it is certainly NOT guaranteed).
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this result is based on shenriquez american flag in his pro. basically saying hes in america using an american sprint tp2 and trying to use american att service.
gamescan, if i said it cant be dont its quite obvious ive done research through trials and also working a phone carrier for 3 years before finding a better job...THIS CANNOT BE DONE. the dual mode in the sprint tp2 is ment for when people travel to europe, they can pop their "european sim" in and be on their merry way. european cell towers accept the frequency of the sprint tp2 and establish a connection. the US towers have "locked out" tmo and att from being used in the sprint tp2. the reason why you found att on connection setup was that your phone was basically saying" yes att is here, but your not connecting". shenriquez i followed the link to the radio you flashed before you got "shut off". you shouldnt have flashed a GSM radio on a SPRINT TP2...you are bricked my dude. you gave your phone a seizure man.
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Only it can be done.
With the tools mentioned in this here very forum.
Any many people have done it.
Again, you're not doing your research and making claims that are flat out wrong.
1) The Sprint TP2 hardware does support the US GSM frequencies.
2) The Sprint TP2 hardware does not ship with a SIM lock.
3) The Sprint TP2 hardware does ship with the two US GSM frequencies disabled in software.
4) If you pay for the Olinex security unlocker you can easily flash a patched radio ROM which re-enabled the two disabled frequencies.
About the only correct thing said in the post above is that he should not have flashed a radio ROM from a GSM-only TP2 to a CDMA/GSM combo TP2. The two devices do have different hardware so flashing the wrong drivers *IS* a BAD THING(tm).
But, assuming you have paid for the security unlocker, flashing a Sprint TP2 with an updated radio ROM is stupid easy and once you've done that making it work on ATT or TMO in the US requires nothing more than slotting in an active SIM card and switching the phone to GSM mode.
If you don't know the answer to something, please feel free to ASK about it, but don't make unfounded and incorrect statements. When you state an absolute that is false it just spreads misinformation which makes things confusing for other users, especially those new to the device.
gamescan said:
Google mtty (or search for it on here).
Short version it's text based, but it's pretty much the lowest level access that a consumer can get to a HTC device without ripping the sucker open, manually desoldering the flash chip and putting in another.
If you're not getting the tri-color bootloader screen, there is still the possibility of saving it via terminal commands, but it's not straightforward (and depending on what happened it is certainly NOT guaranteed).
Only it can be done.
With the tools mentioned in this here very forum.
Any many people have done it.
Again, you're not doing your research and making claims that are flat out wrong.
1) The Sprint TP2 hardware does support the US GSM frequencies.
2) The Sprint TP2 hardware does not ship with a SIM lock.
3) The Sprint TP2 hardware does ship with the two US GSM frequencies disabled in software.
4) If you pay for the Olinex security unlocker you can easily flash a patched radio ROM which re-enabled the two disabled frequencies.
About the only correct thing said in the post above is that he should not have flashed a radio ROM from a GSM-only TP2 to a CDMA/GSM combo TP2. The two devices do have different hardware so flashing the wrong drivers *IS* a BAD THING(tm).
But, assuming you have paid for the security unlocker, flashing a Sprint TP2 with an updated radio ROM is stupid easy and once you've done that making it work on ATT or TMO in the US requires nothing more than slotting in an active SIM card and switching the phone to GSM mode.
If you don't know the answer to something, please feel free to ASK about it, but don't make unfounded and incorrect statements. When you state an absolute that is false it just spreads misinformation which makes things confusing for other users, especially those new to the device.
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Prove your lame theory. Links that sprint gsm will connect to US towers. Even links in "this very forum". Different frequencies dude.
My two cents -- as I am new, too -- but I ran into a similar situation trying to update the radio on my Verizon TP2 due to 1X issues. My phone is unlocked as I was running Mighty but decided to return to stock (6.1).
Note: my SIM is not unlocked. If I understand correctly, the SIM needs to be unlocked to be able to install a radio from a different carrier, like Sprint.
[As a side note: I think these forums use the term "radio" a little too loosely because the program to unlock the phone to be able to flash unsigned ROMs is also called a "radio" unlocker.]
Back on topic: I flashed my phone with and unlocked radio 2.23.00WU and the result was similar to what happened to your phone: it did not turn on, orange light was on.
I was able to flash stock ROM back onto the phone using the USB cord and the phone is back to normal. Even though it was basically non-responsive except for the orange light.
My phone is in working order after the wrong radio incident.
I hope this helps.
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sunNsnow
akademik_acheeba said:
Prove your lame theory. Links that sprint gsm will connect to US towers. Even links in "this very forum". Different frequencies dude.
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If you believe that you're obviously flat out lying when you make the claim of having worked for a carrier for three years, because no one who worked for a wireless carrier could possibly be this ignorant about how GSM works. It's either that or you're purposely posting false information in a lame attempt to screw with the newbies on this site.
The Sprint TP2 hardware supports all four GSM frequencies - 850, 900, 1800, 1900. You can pull up any spec sheet on the model to see that. This isn't exactly hidden information.
Sprint disables the US frequencies in firmware.
If you are security unlocked you can flash one of the two patched radios in the sticky thread in this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578659
Then you toss an active SIM card into the phone and turn it on while in the US. Set it to GSM mode and bam, you're on a US tower.
Your claim is the equivalent of running around screaming "The sky is GREEN because I say it is! The sky can't be blue. That's false!"
sunNsnow said:
My two cents -- as I am new, too -- but I ran into a similar situation trying to update the radio on my Verizon TP2 due to 1X issues. My phone is unlocked as I was running Mighty but decided to return to stock (6.1).
Note: my SIM is not unlocked. If I understand correctly, the SIM needs to be unlocked to be able to install a radio from a different carrier, like Sprint.
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The phone needs to be security unlocked to flash a different radio. If it is not security unlocked a unsigned radio will cause the boot sequence to fail. Flashing a carrier provided radio will restore the phone to service.
Security Unlocking means setting the phone to SuperCID. It is different than SIM unlocking.
SIM unlocking allows you to use different SIM cards. It does not allow you to flash unsigned radios.
The Olinex unlocker will both security unlock you (SuperCID) and SIM unlock you (if needed).
if device was security unlocked and is detected by pc, most likely it can be recovered by mtty. unlike my case where device was not sec unlocked but its detected by mtty using usb or serial. bad news is it would be very hard to recover, im doing some jtag research first, at least i found the pins but no pinout.
gamescan said:
If you believe that you're obviously flat out lying when you make the claim of having worked for a carrier for three years, because no one who worked for a wireless carrier could possibly be this ignorant about how GSM works. It's either that or you're purposely posting false information in a lame attempt to screw with the newbies on this site.
The Sprint TP2 hardware supports all four GSM frequencies - 850, 900, 1800, 1900. You can pull up any spec sheet on the model to see that. This isn't exactly hidden information.
Sprint disables the US frequencies in firmware.
If you are security unlocked you can flash one of the two patched radios in the sticky thread in this forum.
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thats for a radio not rom. find the cdma rom that allows you to use a gsm sim. you cant use the cdma rom over att network...and that link you posted, there are no success stories in it, only complaints. you have no idea what you are talking about. you sit there posting false statements and trying to sound smart with your handy thesaurus. stop posting false statements lame.
So, I just bought a used HTC One S off craigslist and the guy was using an AT&T card in it and said there was problems connecting with a t-mo sim. I assume he flashed an AT&T radio. Do you guys know the best way to reset the radio back to t-mo? I don't really mind root so could I just factory reset? It's on LeeDrOiD One Supreve V2.1.0 if that helps.
Are you sure the phone is not blacklisted and that is why you cant use it with tmobile?
Just checked and the IMEI is not blocked unless you mean something else. He was even using the phoen (though with his AT&T sim)
rockerode said:
just checked and the imei is not blocked unless you mean something else. He was even using the phoen (though with his at&t sim)
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Hi Crumpla!
there is no ATT radio. All of the radios will be specifically for T-Mo or the European variant. the reason that it works on ATT is just because it works on the same bands and frequencies as both att and T-mo. The version of radio should have no bearing on whether it will work on T-Mo or not
brett_day said:
there is no ATT radio. All of the radios will be specifically for T-Mo or the European variant. the reason that it works on ATT is just because it works on the same bands and frequencies as both att and T-mo. The version of radio should have no bearing on whether it will work on T-Mo or not
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What does the phone say with a TMo Sim in it?
"Phone not allowed on network"? and "MM6" up top in the signal area?
Check radio setting
With dialer punch in
*#*#4636#*#*
Choose "Phone information"
Scroll down to Radio, see if it's On or Off.
Maybe play with it, turn it off turn it on see if it give you anything
EDIT: did some googling and seems like MM6 mean it's blacklisted.
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Check radio setting
With dialer punch in
*#*#4636#*#*
Choose "Phone information"
Scroll down to Radio, see if it's On or Off.
Maybe play with it, turn it off turn it on see if it give you anything
EDIT: did some googling and seems like MM6 mean it's blacklisted.
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Yea that's why I was asking...hope its not blacklisted :/
Sent from my HTC One S using xda premium