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I've only had T-Mobile for 6 months and I've already had 4 warrant replacement phones, and I'm getting royally screwed with them. I'm going back to Sprint, now that they have a new CEO who's vowed to clean up Customer service, and because of the Simply Everything plan (outstanding).
I am not going to be financially ready to pay the early termination fee for T-Mobile (or buy a new phone) until June, which conveniently is the unveiling of the Samsung "Instinct" which looks like an outstanding phone.
I was torn between the Instinct and the Sprint Touch... Any thoughts/comments/opinions on this?
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I've only had T-Mobile for 6 months and I've already had 4 warrant replacement phones, and I'm getting royally screwed with them. I'm going back to Sprint, now that they have a new CEO who's vowed to clean up Customer service, and because of the Simply Everything plan (outstanding).
I am not going to be financially ready to pay the early termination fee for T-Mobile (or buy a new phone) until June, which conveniently is the unveiling of the Samsung "Instinct" which looks like an outstanding phone.
I was torn between the Instinct and the Sprint Touch... Any thoughts/comments/opinions on this?
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Please provide a link to this phone.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/tag/instinct/
http://www.nowisgood.com/?id12=UHP_Billboard_nowisgood
well i was just about to start a thread if there wasnt one already... im really suprised that this phone draws so litte attention from the xda crowd. but now that i think about it none of the other iphone closes do either. any way the phone is not windows mobile based so your going to loose all the functionality and customizibitly that all the guys here love so 99 percent of them are going to tell you touch. you need to look in to the driver crisis with the tilt touch moguel and a few other devices htc class action google it up.
as far as the instict goes though im pretty sure im going to get one i work at sprint and get a free service from them so its either the instict or the music. i know there not very close to the same but i love the music lol
the instict for me is still up in the air till i get my hands on one
I just have a question about this whole Java problem with the Instinct. You can't use Opera Mini because the Instinct won't allow 3rd party apps to use the keyboard because they don't have the right kind of Java. Is there anyway somebody can "rip" the Java off of the Instinct and update it? Or is there anyway you could just install the right Java. I'm not really sure how this works but I know there are some pretty crazy hackers/programmers here at XDA and It would be awesome if just one of them would try to help all of us Instinct owners out.
Don't get me wrong, it looks like a nice little toy to have, but get the Touch! If it was possible, I'd say try both for a week, and I'd bet you would keep the Touch.
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So many choice phrases to say right now.
****ing mind boggling.
As a Vibrant owner (since I haven't sold mine yet) I'm kind of pissed at this. It's like they're throwing salt in the wound. Samsung throws 2.2 on that phone before the one that's currently out, gives it a FFC which it was supposed to have from the get go (the hole for it is even there on the motherboard), and makes it HSPA+ capable? Will somebody please tell them that nobody's ever going to support them again since their apparent solution to the no update problem is to sell you a slightly updated version of the exact same phone instead of bringing the existing one with the same basic hardware up to the now out of date OS that it should have had 6 months ago.
in this case.. the Nexus S must of been the sequel to the Vibrant 4G *cough* Android 2.3 *cough*
Vibrant (2.1) -> Vibrant 4G (2.2) -> Nexus S (2.3 - forever)
Calm down folks. There's no release date and it likely won't be until at least next month. The i9000 will be almost a one year old phone by then, and the Vibrant was released last August, which makes it a 6 month old phone.
I'm not going to fault T-Mobile for releasing a better phone 6 months later; that's become a long time in terms of hardware development. I've resigned myself to a new phone every 6 months for as long as I feel compelled to have the "latest, greatest" device.
The picture looks like the same form factor as the current Vibrant; so if all the rest of the stuff is the same, that tells us that our NS, or even our Vibrants, are still pretty much top of the line devices.
Since this looks to be the same build as the current Vibrant, I wonder if it will have the same creaks and groans.
Since they've changed the radio chip (to support 21Mbs) I also wonder if it will still have the AT&T 1900Mhz 3G band support like the current Vibrant.
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Calm down folks. There's no release date and it likely won't be until at least next month. The i9000 will be almost a one year old phone by then, and the Vibrant was released last August, which makes it a 6 month old phone.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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Vibrant released on July 15th of 2010.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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I agree, the Vibrant being replaced in less than 6 months with a better version once most people have already signed 2 year contracts is a tough pill to swallow for Vibrant owners.
It'd be like if Samsung came out with a "Nexus S Plus" in a couple of months that was more future proofed with HSPA+, SD card slot, HDMI output, etc... Nexus S owners would be pretty pissed and wouldn't want to be told to "calm down" either
Ah, the joys of the Apple system
i dont wanna be a douche-er here, but, why isnt this in the vibrant forum?
Samsung shouldn't be allowed to get away with this ****. It's disgusting how they release new phones before updating previous versions.
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Samsung shouldn't be allowed to get away with this ****. It's disgusting how they release new phones before updating previous versions.
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Its how tech works, thats like me saying Nvidia shouldnt have created a GTX580 because i just bought a GTX480....how dare they!
Galaxy S2 will be revealed in February: Engadget http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/12/samsung-mobile-boss-confirms-galaxy-s-successor-galaxy-tab-road/
Considering these phones will likely get enough developer support to see ports of any and all new iterations of Android released from Google (which usually end up being better and more feature-rich than stock anyway); considering you can replace Touchwiz (quite easily even without rooting); considering bloatware doesn't *really* do any harm; and considering Google only releases two major updates a year to the current Nexus phone, it makes me reconsider my position and the worth of the Nexus line.
Everyone will have different preferences, of course, but a lot of me wishes Google would directly challenge Apple with a "Google Experience" phone that isn't meant only to appease developers. In other words, a phone that does compete hardware wise, that does have a more uniformed OS experience that would cater to average-users, while retaining the customizable options and variety that sets the Android experience apart from iOS. That wouldn't sound bad at all.
Perhaps I just got the wrong phone, or perhaps I'm finding out Android isn't for me. Unfortunately, i don't agree with Apple's "the average user is an idiot" philosophy either. For what it's worth, I'm just thinking out loud.
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please check your facts. we are talking about vibrant. not the i9000. the US version of the i9000 got dumped and was released much later than the Euro version. no front facing camera and different button lay out.
the vibrant is not even 6 months old as far as i know. " i am not very sure on this one. so maybe someone will check my facts on this lol "
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Please check your facts before correcting people.
The Vibrant's official release date was supposed to be July 21, 2010, but looks like it came out a week early though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S#In_the_United_States
Let's see, August, Sept, Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan...that's 6 months right there, and by the time this new Vibrant Plus comes out (next month, maybe later) it will be 7-8 months or more. There's no announced release date yet that I've seen.
Also, I know we're talking about the T-Mo Vibrant, but it's only a slight variant of the original i9000. I have owned both, and even disassembled both. They both use the same display, touchscreen, same cpu, same gpu, same just about everything internally except the radio and the capacitive buttons. You can even put the i9000 FFC into a Vibrant by just removing some paint, and I've place the Vibrant's speaker assembly into an i9000.
My point was that the basic technology of the ENTIRE Galaxy S line of phones is almost a year old now. The i9000 was demo'd in April 2010, and available for purchase in June 2010. In the phone world, 9-12 months is a very long time...they need to provide something new and exciting to sell more phones, and a 21Mbs radio probably fits that bill.
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I agree, the Vibrant being replaced in less than 6 months with a better version once most people have already signed 2 year contracts is a tough pill to swallow for Vibrant owners.
It'd be like if Samsung came out with a "Nexus S Plus" in a couple of months that was more future proofed with HSPA+, SD card slot, HDMI output, etc... Nexus S owners would be pretty pissed and wouldn't want to be told to "calm down" either
Ah, the joys of the Apple system
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But that's the reality of COMPETITION. Samsung Mobile exists to sell phones. They have to constantly come up with something that will tempt new buyers. Welcome to world of technology, and economics 101...there will always, make that ALWAYS be a better gadget out in just a few months.
Apple's in a class by itself...not that it's better than the others, but they have a very loyal and large audience that will only buy iPhones. They can get away with a longer product cycle because of that. I'm not sure how long that will last, though.
And if you hadn't noticed, there are probably a whole lot of angry iPhone 4 users who signed a 2-year contract for an AT&T iPhone 4 last July that are now pissing and moaning that it's not fair that they can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon now. That's just the way it is with cell deals and subsidies...if you don't like it, don't buy a phone under contract. I've paid cash and non-subsidized every phone I've bought in the last 18 months, including my iPhone 4.
Hey guys come on it's a "customer favourite"
If you hate Samsung for making the Vibrant Plus in the first place, you're REALLY going to hate them after reading this: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Allegedly they have Froyo ready to go for the Vibrant, but won't let T-Mo push it OTA for fear of hurting sales of the Vibrant Plus.
Why didn't the nexus s have the hspa+ and I feel like everyone that got the vibrant just got screwed.
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But that's the reality of COMPETITION. Samsung Mobile exists to sell phones. They have to constantly come up with something that will tempt new buyers. Welcome to world of technology, and economics 101...there will always, make that ALWAYS be a better gadget out in just a few months.
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Agreed. Makes sense when you put it like that
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Apple's in a class by itself...not that it's better than the others, but they have a very loyal and large audience that will only buy iPhones. They can get away with a longer product cycle because of that. I'm not sure how long that will last, though.
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Yeah I agree. It reminds me of when the Nexus One came out and set a standard for smartphones and looked really classy which caused alot of people to become loyal followers.
I wonder how long Apples loyalty will last if they don't set a new standard like they did with the iPhone 4 and you have a bunch of crazy Android phones (Atrix, Bionic, Optimus, etc) breathing down their neck?
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And if you hadn't noticed, there are probably a whole lot of angry iPhone 4 users who signed a 2-year contract for an AT&T iPhone 4 last July that are now pissing and moaning that it's not fair that they can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon now. That's just the way it is with cell deals and subsidies...if you don't like it, don't buy a phone under contract. I've paid cash and non-subsidized every phone I've bought in the last 18 months, including my iPhone 4.
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Good point I agree.
Cash for non-subsidized iPhone 4? wow
No one is forcing you to buy it, just wait.
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If you hate Samsung for making the Vibrant Plus in the first place, you're REALLY going to hate them after reading this: http://androidspin.com/2011/01/12/b...samsung-is-holding-the-android-world-hostage/
Allegedly they have Froyo ready to go for the Vibrant, but won't let T-Mo push it OTA for fear of hurting sales of the Vibrant Plus.
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Wow if that's true then Samsung are some eeeeeeeeeeeevil mf'ers
Good find there dloop thanks for posting
Wonder if Samsung is the one telling Google not to give us N1 owners gingerbread as well... :angry:
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considering you can replace Touchwiz (quite easily even without rooting);
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There is no way that removing touchwiz is easy, and when i left the Captivate, (about a month ago now) there still wasn't a rom that had it 100% removed.
A decade or two ago I remembered the only time people upgraded were when their device became non-functional. However these days it seems to me that it is norm to change devices every time a newer version comes out. And this form of consumerism is most pronounced in the mobile phone community. Partly because the mobile phone technology evolves faster than other technology.
I wonder how many people still use their until it dies or at least have a upgrade plan (eg I upgrade phone every 3 years, laptop every 4 years, DSLR every 6 years).
I used to upgrade approx every 1.5 - 2 years when I had a dumbphone My first "smartishphone" was the Nokia e70 that still works and I keep it for backup. I then bought an Xperia X1which I used until it died, although about 6 months prior to battery spazzing out I used it as a work phone as I purchased a HD2 for private use. When it died I used a combo of my e70 and HD2. Then last year in November (I think) I then purchased a EVO 3d which I now use as my personal phone and my HD2 as my work phone, the e70 went back in the drawer for when I need it next.
Cool story huh bro? So I guess the moral of it is that I upgrade whenever I cant fight the itch anymore and I never get rid of my old phones even if they are broken.
I upgraded from a dumbphone to my first smartphone: Nokia E72, but I hated the OS when I saw what Android could do, so I bought a SGS. Which I am willing to use till it dies because of the many ROMS and stuff still being made for it.
I only upgrade when my contract is up. It is a 24 month contract so that is when I will upgrade.
For me it is important to get good hardware at the time of purchase and make sure you can load the latest software on top, because at the end of the day what makes the device tick is the software it has inside it... Thank god for XDA community of hackers
I'm using a like 5 year old deskop running vista. I am going to upgrade that once windows 8 comes out.
I have a transformer that i see no reason to upgrade.
MY first phone was an iPhone 3G and i had that for a year till iOS 4 came and totally killed it. Then I upgraded to an iPhone 4 right after they came out in Canada.
Now this month I am upgrading to a Galaxy Nexus because, well the iphones still good, put siri on it and it does what I want to it but i am just sick and tires of iOS and really want something different.
Point and shoots only get replaced when they are destroyed and TV's only get replaced once they stop working
I'm not a big upgrade-a-holic i let my stuff live a good life and i'm upgrading my my iPhone because I still have 18 months on contract and I do not see me using it for another 18 months... and the sooner i get this one the cheaper my next one will be
I go through a ridiculous amount of phones, 5 last year.
I'd upgrade today from my EVO 3d if the HTC edge was out now I love HTC
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i may not always wait for it to die, but i'll go a good amount of time with a phone till I like another one, I had a few nokia phones for years, they were just solid
i hate upgrading simply cuz of the fact that you have to extend your contract. i recently got my htc vivid.. and im planning to stick to it until it dies.
Prior to switching over to WP7, I used to "upgrade" my android device weekly or bi-weekly. I was a Craigslist fiend and owned 67 phones in two years.
While I now own all WP7 devices, my daily driver for 9 months was the Dell Venue Pro and is now the Nokia Lumia 800. With WP7 you get high quality regardless of device so the need for frequent updates is kaput.
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I only upgrade when my contract is up. It is a 24 month contract so that is when I will upgrade.
For me it is important to get good hardware at the time of purchase and make sure you can load the latest software on top, because at the end of the day what makes the device tick is the software it has inside it... Thank god for XDA community of hackers
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This is what I do. I upgrade as soon as AT&T will let me. I hate to extend the contract, but I don't see giving up a cell phone anytime soon, I haven't had a land line for years, so if I upgrade early it is like cutting some time off my contract. On a family plan, paying more than $100 a month they used to let you upgrade the primary line every 12 months (so people could buy each iPhone I think), but that ended this year. So I upgraded to the SGS II, the best device at the time, and still, and it should hold me over until may 2013 when I qualify again. By that time I hope to have LTE in my area too, so I will be able to get a second or third gen LTE phone on AT&T. If something really tickles me before then, I might try the 3 warranty replacement trick to upgrade early, but it'd have to be really good to beat the SGS II.
FinancialWar said:
A decade or two ago I remembered the only time people upgraded were when their device became non-functional. However these days it seems to me that it is norm to change devices every time a newer version comes out. And this form of consumerism is most pronounced in the mobile phone community. Partly because the mobile phone technology evolves faster than other technology.
I wonder how many people still use their until it dies or at least have a upgrade plan (eg I upgrade phone every 3 years, laptop every 4 years, DSLR every 6 years).
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I pick a time to upgrade my stuff. I aim for about 3 to 4 years out a desktop, but I will go for top of the range CPU, and add more RAM 9 months after getting it... So i7 2600K right now, and 12 GB RAM. That will see me through to 2014/2015 I hope.
Phone, I will see how it goes. I kept my hero from 18 months of date of purchase, but it was pretty diabolical performance-wise after 9 to 12 months, as other devices raced on. My SGS2 is now 8 months old, I think, yet is probably still the fastest all-round device on the market. So I am looking for AT LEAST 2 years out it, perhaps 2.5 or 3...
I only get a new phone when my old one breaks...I would still be on my droidx if the battery hadn't gone to mush and exploded. Now I can only get to the stock recovery.
But it was too early for an upgrade, but once I was on the phone with verizon for awhile and explained what happened they gave me an early upgrade.
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Prior to switching over to WP7, I used to "upgrade" my android device weekly or bi-weekly. I was a Craigslist fiend and owned 67 phones in two years.
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^^ Pretty much this for me too...
The HD7 was the first step to breaking the addiction, and now im planning on keeping my newly acquired HTC TITAN till third gen WP7 phones release. Seriously, the saturation of Android phones are bad for guys like me that like to always be up to date or have the newest thing. No more, WP7 is garanteed support and updates for at least 2 years so I dont have to worry anymore. Plus its great to get away from the Rom addiction and just enjoy the damn phone lol
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Yup! it's been three years with this HTC hero, I wonder how much longer it'll last?
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I would need a very compelling reason to upgrade. My phone dying would be one such reason. The only other would be a new device that ticks all the right boxes for me, and currently the phone i have is the only one that does that.
Carrier upgrades are a no go for me as Vodafone are awful for locking down, branding and delaying updates, even on Nexus devices which should get their updates directly from Google.
Only update when there is something worth updating to. My last phone was the HD2 then went to the captivate but traded it for.the Inspire which is what I had wanted but it hadn't hit yet. Now I will wait for a decent HTC phone to come out that is not just a minor hardware change. Maybe the quadcore will be enuff to make me update but too soon to tell. Inspire still does what I need it to and is fast as hell for me
I've only ever owned 3 smartphones. My first was the iPhone 3GS when it was first released I had it for 1 year and 3 months until it started playing up. I bought the phone outright biggest waste cost me 1G with the Apple care for 2 years. Apple then replaced the phone with a brand new one so I never opened it and sold it on Ebay for $600. I then bought my Desire HD had it for 6 or so months and I couldn't resist the Sensation XE when it was announced so I sold my Desire HD for $322 and bought the Sensation XE for $560 about 3 months ago and I'll have this phone until it dies.
Using my 10 years old pc with windows xp and using till it dies and I change phone when earler dies but I had SE w810 since 2007 and it still works but I wanted something new and small so bought this one and I think I will use it until 2013 summer when contract ends or until his end dont see purpose of spending money on high end phones its better to have psp or psv and small android for everyday using because every day theres new better android on sale but psp will stick few years unchanged and with same performance ofcourse maybe you have lot of money to spend it
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It all depends on the device, but phones in my house have the shortest upgrade cycle (24-36 months) while laptops and desktops can generally be refreshed with upgraded hardware halfway through their lifecycle lasting 4-5 years.
Tablets look like they are going to age fast...
So I know that there are a few hot phones coming out, like the sony xperia ion and the HTC one X etc..
I have until March 22nd before my 30 day return window is up on my Skyrocket. However I think that both the phones I mentioned above will be released after that by a few weeks.
My question is (being that I'mm brand new to ATT) could I return my skyrocket within my days and just use some random lame $20 phone that I find on CL for a few weeks and then still use my upgrade a few weeks later when these other phones are released? Or what would you do in my shoes? Thanks!!
Honestly, no. Your best bet it to call AT&T and speak to a customer service manager, or escalate it as high as you need to iin ordee for you to keepbyiur upgrade option. Just walking into the store isn't going to cut it
i would just return it and use the crappy phone or if you are willing to spend the money buy the skyrocket off contract and use the upgrade later. if you have the skyrocket you would be good for even longer because its a great phone so you could wait for an even better phone than the One X that will inevitably come 2 months after the One X comes out.
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So I know that there are a few hot phones coming out, like the sony xperia ion and the HTC one X etc..
I have until March 22nd before my 30 day return window is up on my Skyrocket. However I think that both the phones I mentioned above will be released after that by a few weeks.
My question is (being that I'mm brand new to ATT) could I return my skyrocket within my days and just use some random lame $20 phone that I find on CL for a few weeks and then still use my upgrade a few weeks later when these other phones are released? Or what would you do in my shoes? Thanks!!
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Amazing!!! These **new** phones will remain new for only a few months. They will soon superseded by something flashier, faster and "greater". I am sure that Android 5.0 is also around the corner.
You cannot keep chasing this. It would cost some real money. I find that the Skyrocket does everything I want a good phone to do, it has a great screen, it is fast, it has more than enough storage, etc, etc. Sure, you can get a quad-core phone as soon as they come out, but what would be the speed improvement there? The Skyrocket is already very fast. If I were you, I would enjoy the phone and wait for the upgrade wait to end. In a year or so, there will be another great collection of phones for you to choose from!
Personally, I would keep the Skyrocket. Besides the Note, there is no other phone out there right now, or even announced that I have any interest in. When the SGS3 comes out, maybe that will change, but in the mean time, the Skyrocket is one of the top dogs.
You'll always be chasing what keeps itself 2 steps ahead of you.
Returning your phone to at&t isn't a slam dunk. If you don't get a new phone at the time of the return, they'll most likely push up your next upgrade eligibility to 60days. They may also hit you with a restocking fee too. Good luck.
If you want to stay up to date on the cheap..pay out of pocket once at best buy(price match at$t) and do buyback..every new phone as long long as its within 6 months is basically half price off contract.
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Hey guys, so i have been wanting to try out WP7 for a while, i have an opportunity to snag up an arrive on contract. since im on sprint there doesnt seem to be much going on in the WP7 area. id love to have a titan 2 like device or even one i know is going to get the latest versions, however that doesnt appear to be sprints concern.
anyways long story short is it worthwhile for me to put my epic 4g touch off to the side for while and snag the arrive and give it a run for its money? or should i hope that some day sprint brings another windows phone out? (preferably with a bigger screen)
I really like my arrive, WP7 is a great OS, but please do keep in mind that this device is getting long in the tooth. The arrive was brought to sprint over a year ago.
The DFT rom is great and enables internet sharing.
I'd only go for it now if you are enamored with the idea of a hardware keyboard. Otherwise, I'd wait until the summer to see if sprint brings a Nokia WP in.
http://www.sprintfeed.com/2012/03/sprint-developing-lte-windows-phone-with-fall-release-in-mind/
Sprint apparently has a new windows phone in the pipeline but it wont be until the fall, I havent seen any other rumored windows phones for sprint. I love windows phone and the arrive for the most part suits my needs but there is definitely some apps missing when compared to iPhone and Android.
Hope that helps.
I switched to Sprint and grabbed the Arrive when it came out ($50 on contract at the time). I love the phone and love the OS, but I'd hold off because I expect Sprint to feel the Nokia love before the end of the year.
The two gripes I have about the Arrive is that it's only 3G and I don't even have the option for ICS (sans custom ROMs which I'm waiting for those to shake out a little more before I take that plunge). Those aren't major gripes, just the two biggest issues I have with the phone. If you don't just totally hate your phone, I'd stick with it (or look at getting an Arrive from someone who didn't like it and is selling it used). Save your upgrade for the Nokia and I think you'll enjoy it even more.
yea after a bit of searching and deciding on it all im gunna try and pick up an arrive on teh cheap and us eteh upgrade on the new one...
sadly they still want 50 dollars on contract for this phone :/ which is teh same amount as the photon which is less then 10 moinths old
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yea after a bit of searching and deciding on it all im gunna try and pick up an arrive on teh cheap and us eteh upgrade on the new one...
sadly they still want 50 dollars on contract for this phone :/ which is teh same amount as the photon which is less then 10 moinths old
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I have had my Epic 4g since launch and after trying Win 8 Preview I wanted to try WP7. I went to a sprint store and tried the Arrive and I liked it. So, I found a refurbished Arrive on ebay to try out for $150 shipped. I'm up for an upgrade. But, I know the flagship phones are coming out at the end of the year and I will save it for that. Have you thought about buying an off contract phone and waitng for the phone you really want?
fwiw you can get the arrive for free on contract from wirefly
I just got this phone due to a finally dead TP2. Rest in Peace TP2. I will miss you so very much.
I really don't know why this device isn't more popular. The keyboard is basically the same as TP2, (best ever), and the phone is lightning quick. It's made very user friendly. Slide to what you want and the learning curve is almost non existent. To each their own I suppose, but for me, I will be happy with this device.
i was waiting for a GREAT wp7 on sprint but couldn't wait any longer. Picked up a used arrive today for fairly cheap and man I'm loving it so far. It's so fast compared to my ancient tp2. I've already downgraded spl, rspl/hspl, and flashed dft gold_c v1. Great rom so far. I'm loving ie9.
I agree to others that it is not really worth the contract for this because of it's age, but I still love this phone a lot. Of course I didn't have a chance to try an android phone(or native android phone, I tried the android port on TP2), so I can't say this is better, but it fit my taste.
Now, serious question, how to load 8107?