[Q] Camera App/Shutter Sound - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have been unable to find the specific file or registry entry to permanently disable the shutter sound for photos, and the rec sound for videos. I am wondering if anyone else has insight on how this can be done.
Apparently, All HTC and Samsung phones will have the sound off when volume is all the way down, but LG phones do not exhibit the same property. This is especially irritating when there is something that needs to be captured in a lecture or meeting without disturbing the ones around you.
Please help us LG owners out here...

+1
That thing is so damn annoying , i would love to see any solution ..

+1 here too
I've searched myself

Searching for "shutter", but cant find anything (Registry editor => search).

You won't find it in the registry, but you will find a file called camerashutter_mirage.wav in the \Windows directory. Since only HTC & Samsung phones enjoy read/write access to that directory while we're still stick with read-only, there's not much we can do. Once we have read/write we can replace that noisy wav file with a silent one.

I just turn volume down to zero and no annoying beeping for focus or CLICK!
Sucks that LG phone is different and only has read access. Too bad there is no consistency across phone platforms for similar functions.

snadboy said:
I just turn volume down to zero and no annoying beeping for focus or CLICK!
Sucks that LG phone is different and only has read access. Too bad there is no consistency across phone platforms for similar functions.
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Wait... are you sure? I have a focus and I've been wondering how to do this. Even with the volume all the way down, and even with the phone on vibrate only mode, i still here the shutter. It's even worse when trying to do video. Not only will you here the startup sound but the shutter as well when it's done!

Put the volume to 0 then restart the phone and then take a picture without putting the volume back up. Let us know if it works for you.

AF241 said:
Put the volume to 0 then restart the phone and then take a picture without putting the volume back up. Let us know if it works for you.
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Nope, didn't work.

I missed Samsung getting RW access to the Windows directory. Have a link?

Hi
the simplest way to disable shutter sound
is to replace shutter.wav in the windows folder.
there is no registry key to change it,
shutter sound is called by PhotoEntLib.dll

AF241 said:
Put the volume to 0 then restart the phone and then take a picture without putting the volume back up. Let us know if it works for you.
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whoah!!!! that worked!!! wow!

xmckinzie said:
I missed Samsung getting RW access to the Windows directory. Have a link?
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I was mistaken, I thought Samsung had it. Seems only HTC has it now.

LG too, actually. Through ChangeConfigXML of the MfgTest COM class and a provision xml string.

why need disable the sound? take lady photo???

iwantnokia said:
why need disable the sound? take lady photo???
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lol, alot of people YES, lol, but myself personally no... lol

__ow said:
LG too, actually. Through ChangeConfigXML of the MfgTest COM class and a provision xml string.
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so is there an LG file explorer? or how did u do this?

pdangcil said:
whoah!!!! that worked!!! wow!
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I was wrong. It worked the first time. But it hasnt worked since.

megagprime said:
so is there an LG file explorer? or how did u do this?
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Not that I know of. There are no file system APIs exposed in any of the LG apps, MFG included. Not that has been found and reported yet anyway.
However, their provisioning methods do allow file write access in \Windows at the very least. Couldn't delete the files I added though. And even if the FileSystem Configuration Service Provider is implemented and operable in the system, the methods exposed by LG does not look to support querying through provisioning documents. So the regular restricted filesystem access used in davux's webserver, for example, is what we've got for browsing so far.
As for how I did it; same as everyone else. Pick the engineer menu and other manufacturer apps apart and use their own COM classes. Only for a proof of concept, nothing readily usable.

__ow said:
Not that I know of. There are no file system APIs exposed in any of the LG apps, MFG included. Not that has been found and reported yet anyway.
However, their provisioning methods do allow file write access in \Windows at the very least. Couldn't delete the files I added though. And even if the FileSystem Configuration Service Provider is implemented and operable in the system, the methods exposed by LG does not look to support querying through provisioning documents. So the regular restricted filesystem access used in davux's webserver, for example, is what we've got for browsing so far.
As for how I did it; same as everyone else. Pick the engineer menu and other manufacturer apps apart and use their own COM classes. Only for a proof of concept, nothing readily usable.
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over my head

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Install App From another Android?

I got my self the hero, and my wife the Moment. I am slightly jealous of the hardware she has..but that aside, I am in love with my Hero.
However, she does have one app that i really want and the market place does not have. I assume this is an app installed by sprint.
It is Photo and Video uploader. You set an email address or other location and after a video or photo is taken, it automatically uploads the photo to the predetermined destination. GREAT FOR BACKING UP PICTURES! But, her camera hardware blows. 3.2 MP and it is sooo slow. So picture quality is no where near that of the Hero's 5 MP.
So the real question here - -
Can I ADB into her phone and just take the .APK and ODEX file for this app and push it to my phone? Is it that easy???
Some apps are that easy. Give it a try and find out! The worst thing you'll get is some force closes.
However most stock apps require files from /system/lib that help run that apk. And they don't have the same naming convention therefore you won't know which one(s) it is amongst the 100s there. But I always say try and see what happens.
And if it works upload that .apk for the rest of us!
Thinking out loud here...well..you get the point.
Could I copy all of system/lib and only copy the files that dont already exist?
That could be a giant waste of space though, and it could still rely on a file that I have, not just one that isn't there....
Also since I am not "installing" the app, could Apps2SD hinder me? I am not entirely sure how a2sd works other than tricking the phone into using the SD card as a partition and unioning it with the existing part.
I love how open android is supposed to be, but how the darn manufacturers kill us with the different platform crap.
thedudejdog said:
And if it works upload that .apk for the rest of us!
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Am I aloud to do that? I have seen XDA Mods get on to some people about uploading APK's. I guess I should read the EULA for that app before I do?
Kcarpenter said:
Thinking out loud here...well..you get the point.
Could I copy all of system/lib and only copy the files that dont already exist?
That could be a giant waste of space though, and it could still rely on a file that I have, not just one that isn't there....
Also since I am not "installing" the app, could Apps2SD hinder me? I am not entirely sure how a2sd works other than tricking the phone into using the SD card as a partition and unioning it with the existing part.
I love how open android is supposed to be, but how the darn manufacturers kill us with the different platform crap.
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Copying the ../lib/ over and not replacing existing files could work. lol. As for apps2sd... you kind of have two ways you can try installing this. Without copying the lib and all that just try putting the apk on to your sdcard and browsing to it using astro or linda (a file manager) and click on the apk and installing it. See if it errors out or fails. If it does, THEN try copying it and the odex to /system/app (if it has an odex I'm pretty confident you won't be able to install it using package manager). If that still fails then you can go crazy and trying copying the lib ha.
Kcarpenter said:
Am I aloud to do that? I have seen XDA Mods get on to some people about uploading APK's. I guess I should read the EULA for that app before I do?
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I don't remember if I read it on here or ppcgeeks but I believe officially the only stock apk's not allowed is quick office. But don't quote me on that.
So I hooked up to the Moment through ADB last night.
Found out really quickly that I can SU with it....
There is a "non permanent" hack out there to become root, but I tried it and still couldn't mount the file system to copy from it.
Any ideas guys?
From what I understand the Moment uses an FS16? file System? Something Odd that non of the other droids seem to be using.
Just an Idea, thought I would throw it out there.
Does the temporary root allow for running applications as root an the device itself?
There is an app in the market called root explorer that allows copy/paste/cut/delete from the system/app folder.
It may be possible to use that app to copy the needed filed to your sdcard and then extract them from there.
This would all be contingent on the app being able to mount the directory as r/w though, so who knows, worth a shot though i guess.
rockcrawler said:
Just an Idea, thought I would throw it out there.
Does the temporary root allow for running applications as root an the device itself?
There is an app in the market called root explorer that allows copy/paste/cut/delete from the system/app folder.
It may be possible to use that app to copy the needed filed to your sdcard and then extract them from there.
This would all be contingent on the app being able to mount the directory as r/w though, so who knows, worth a shot though i guess.
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This root doesn't allow you to run Root apps. not sure why, seems like root would be root.
After some reading, the root method that is being used on the Moment is not the safest. Apparently if you skip a step you have a brick. And with no Nandroid backup at the moment(pun?) I would HATE to attempt it. Apparently though Root sticks until you reboot. There is an INit. script that runs and resets the permisions.
I know, "Don't skips steps and you'll be ok"
I may get brave and try it tonight...
as far as I can tell you cannot install this app on the hero. I'm not sure what the app is called and unless it starts in the /data folder it is under the system dumps
http://www.4shared.com/file/149766091/c3a7ee61/momentsystem.html
nelson8403 said:
as far as I can tell you cannot install this app on the hero. I'm not sure what the app is called and unless it starts in the /data folder it is under the system dumps
http://www.4shared.com/file/149766091/c3a7ee61/momentsystem.html
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ROCK ON! Thanks for the link to the dump, I hadn't thought about looking around in one of these.
I will post what I find out.
WOOT IT WORKS!!!!!
So any how the application is in that Dump under apps, its only an APK
xms-android-1.0.42-prod.apk
If you are interested in what it does:
You setup predetermined "places" Flikr, FB, EMAIL, what ever.
Any picture or video you take automatically gets put in an upload queue and it sent to your predetermined places.
I am using it for back up, I have 2 kids and sometimes the cell phone is the quickest way to snap a great picture. Keeping these pictures in mutltiple places, like your 7 gig google account, is a nifty way to backup.
I am waiting for a Mod to get back to me if I can post the APK or not. I don't want to get in trouble.
wonder if their youtube app has better picture quality than ours?
BrianDigital said:
wonder if their youtube app has better picture quality than ours?
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I will let you know in a few minutes. As soon as I get done with my WiFi teether I will compare the two. Pretty sure they should be the same.
EDIT: I am not sure if it is hardware or not. Running the same youTube video side by side - Our HERO has better color quality, Deeper blacker. The Moment has slightly sharper edges to the pictures, not quite as blurry. the moment does not go "Full Screen" for videos either which could be contributing to the sharper look to things. My assumption would be that this is a difference in the hardware. Quality of youTube videos seems to have diminished over the years anyways, none of the really look "good" any more. Probably in an effort to save bandwidth.
However, if you want to take a look personally, I will post the APK for you. Just please don't blame me if you forget to back up the original and want to revert....I love disclaimers.
I was trying to use that picture uploader, for me it stalls on picking a new location. Wonder if it is because I am on gutted rom and missing some pointers somewhere
BrianDigital said:
I was trying to use that picture uploader, for me it stalls on picking a new location. Wonder if it is because I am on gutted rom and missing some pointers somewhere
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I am using MoDaCo + Optimizations w/ ZipAlign. Not sure if its worth the switch for you or not.
I have never used Gutted so I do not know what it offers/doesn't have.
Gutted is as vanilla as our Rom can get. It's quick too
that's pretty cool and sounds like a great idea for backing up pics so what all would I need to do to get this and install it I have root access already
Kcarpenter said:
WOOT IT WORKS!!!!!
So any how the application is in that Dump under apps, its only an APK
xms-android-1.0.42-prod.apk
If you are interested in what it does:
You setup predetermined "places" Flikr, FB, EMAIL, what ever.
Any picture or video you take automatically gets put in an upload queue and it sent to your predetermined places.
I am using it for back up, I have 2 kids and sometimes the cell phone is the quickest way to snap a great picture. Keeping these pictures in mutltiple places, like your 7 gig google account, is a nifty way to backup.
I am waiting for a Mod to get back to me if I can post the APK or not. I don't want to get in trouble.
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Wow... that's a really cool program... and just so you know, you can "install" it using adb and it still works fine
Code:
adb install xms-android-1.0.42-prod.apk
Then it will install in /data/apps (or if you have apps2sd, on the sdcard under /system/sd/apps)
Works great on the Sprint Hero and MoDaCo ROM
Kcarpenter said:
I am waiting for a Mod to get back to me if I can post the APK or not. I don't want to get in trouble.
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The only rule regarding it would be
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.
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which your app doesn't fit in to. Posting it is not outside of the rules and should be fine.

[TOOL] Online .apk installer (for the real newbie's)

Today a friend of mine wanted to install a .apk file on his Android phone and he did not have a clue on how to do this.
So.. After some hours PHP coding here I created an online tool for him (and other newbies).
Basically the users selects the .apk he wants to install, and points his Android camera to the given QR code.
Please have a look at http://bit.ly/e4mLXu , and let me know what you think.
Some things like About and FAQ are still missing, but will be added later this week.
Thank you.
It's a good concept but the site layout is so unnecessary, you don't need all those unneeded images and links in the website that has nothing to do with its function.
armoguy94 said:
It's a good concept but the site layout is so unnecessary, you don't need all those unneeded images and links in the website that has nothing to do with its function.
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Thank you for your input.. I guess that I did go over the top a bit on the design.... But I was really in my zone when doing the page layout
I'm re-doing it at the moment, and I will try to keep it as KISS as possible.
Once again thank you for your input.
Awesome idea. A friend of mine just got her first Android phone, and is pretty clueless about installing APKs, even though I rooted her phone and walked her through it with Root Explorer. This will make it much simpler for her.
Good idea! Can save some time. It`s already saved in my favorites!
file manager, astro..
this is for first class rookies
Sorry but have I missed something here??
Why on earth would ANYBODY really actually need to use this? (no offence) Has your friend lost the plot?
Why would you go through all this instead of simply installing a file manager liek ASTRO via the market?
a) Copy apk to sd card/phone
b) install ASTRO File Manager from market.
c) Install apk
How difficult is that?
If I have missed something here please explain because I cant think of any scenario where this would be an advantage.
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Sorry but have I missed something here??
Why on earth would ANYBODY really actually need to use this? (no offence) Has your friend lost the plot?
Why would you go through all this instead of simply installing a file manager liek ASTRO via the market?
a) Copy apk to sd card/phone
b) install ASTRO File Manager from market.
c) Install apk
How difficult is that?
If I have missed something here please explain because I cant think of any scenario where this would be an advantage.
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unless that not everyone knows those steps.
TheATHEiST said:
Sorry but have I missed something here??
Why on earth would ANYBODY really actually need to use this? (no offence) Has your friend lost the plot?
Why would you go through all this instead of simply installing a file manager liek ASTRO via the market?
a) Copy apk to sd card/phone
b) install ASTRO File Manager from market.
c) Install apk
How difficult is that?
If I have missed something here please explain because I cant think of any scenario where this would be an advantage.
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I have not looked at it yet, but this allows you to do it without connecting the phone to the pc right?
Logical order for your instructions
a) Install ASTRO File Manager from market.
b) Copy apk to sd card/phone
c) Install apk
repeat steps b and c for other .apks
It is a great idea,and nicely done. but i will stay with the other method.
i think its great especially when you forget your usb cable, i never leave home with out but i forgot it, surfing thru xda and didnt feel like opening xda app on phone just download upload install, also, when paw server is down i guess, nice work.
Oops... The site is getting a lot of attention at the moment as it made the XDA's frontpage!
I guess that it's time to start putting together a FAQ for the site.
Things like:
Q: Sorry but have I missed something here??
Why on earth would ANYBODY really actually need to use this? (no offence) Has your friend lost the plot?
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A: I have not looked at it yet, but this allows you to do it without connecting the phone to the pc
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and
its great especially when you forget your usb cable.
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will be in it
Thank you all for the input.
Dblfstr said:
I have not looked at it yet, but this allows you to do it without connecting the phone to the pc right?
Logical order for your instructions
a) Install ASTRO File Manager from market.
b) Copy apk to sd card/phone
c) Install apk
repeat steps b and c for other .apks
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Err how is that any more "logical" then what I said?
It doesn't make a difference which way around you do a&b so one order isnt any more or less logical then the other.
Your logic fails
deolarte said:
i think its great especially when you forget your usb cable, i never leave home with out but i forgot it, surfing thru xda and didnt feel like opening xda app on phone just download upload install, also, when paw server is down i guess, nice work.
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Ok so if you where not at home and didnt have a USB cable, you could simply email the apk to yourself or use your friends card reader/card slot/dongle etc. There are a million different ways that are much quicker then this. Not trying to dis OP/site etc just suprised that this has been made front page news?
I love how quickly people try to smash an idea just cause it's not their way...what if the user doesn't have a file manager installed? Left their USB cable? Doesn't want to login to a webmail account for security reasons? There are tons of reasons to use this...I say scale it up, and somehow work out longer time periods for the QR codes (Maybe only for registered users?)...besides, it's always nice to have some functional PHP code that could be used in other projects.
I just used this and it is awesome! thank you thank you thank you!
sorry, but its useless. also harder and takes longer time than just copying to sd.
not everybody gets the idea of Astro/File manager.
this is just another way to get to the goal.
sometimes, even if you try to show them a better way of doing things, they still prefer another way which may seem not logical/takes a longer time.
This is a neat idea. it might not appeal to everybody, but it may help somebody.
I don't get this either. I email the apk to my gmail and there's an option in Gmail on your phone for you to install the app.
Hey, i found great use for this. I downloaded a couple of APKs and needed to quickly dl them, and install them. Too lazy to connect to my computer or email it. So much faster.
One cosmetic issue: when I upload an apk the name changes to a crazy long string. Any way to shorten that? I realize you can't keep the original apk name but a simple numbering system (each new upload +1 id kind of a thing) or whatever else might work better. It's not required, but just my input love it!
niceeee!!! this is exactly what i wanted!

Phone only rings once?!

Hey guys, I'm a new Nexus S owner coming over from an Evo. On my Evo I rooted it and put a custom rom on it and such, so I'm not completely new or wet behind the ears when it comes to doing things with your phone.
Here's the thing: I went and put custom ringtones on my Nexus, but the one I use primarily only rings once. I look at it and see it vibrating and still receiving a call...but the ring-tone does not loop. It rings once and that's it. So far it's the only problem I'm having with my phone. Anyone having the same problem or have a fix for me that I can use?
Thanks in advance for the help!
btw: I put the custom ringtones on my phone by making a folder in the SD card titled media/audio/ringtones. I did that and the tones showed up. Is there another method that I can use that will make the ringtone repeat itself, because this whole 1 ring thing is not going to work, lol.
someone else asked me about this exact same thing right before you posted this. I tested, and ringtones on your sd dont loop :/ I made a 4 second ringtone to test and it rings for 4 seconds then stops. i know this wasnt the case on other phones and dont see why it is now. but just letting you know thats your issue.
I don't find this to be true for me. I've got the same setup and mine loop. I don't know how to help troubleshoot it for you either. I'm running stock rooted. I will test this later and let you know if I was wrong.
Yea, I'm running stock rooted as well...I don't understand why this would be an issue at all. It doesn't make any sense. I would hate to have to just make the ringtone longer by looping it manually and then replacing it on the phone, there has to be some other reason behind this.
herbthehammer said:
I don't find this to be true for me. I've got the same setup and mine loop. I don't know how to help troubleshoot it for you either. I'm running stock rooted.
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I just made a ringtone, placed it on my sd, and it only played once. I was asked via gtalk by another NS4G owner about it, so I tested. Maybe your ringtone is longer than you think?
I am having the same issue. I took the stock ringtones off the last rom I was running on my Evo and they don't loop on my nexus. I even tried placing the ringers in the actual ringtone folder (/system/media/audio/ringtones) and they still did not loop, I just gave up. Any one have any ideas?
Are you guys using google voice integration? I found that it started only playing ringtones once after integrating with google voice.
I've noticed the same thing as you guys have, can't figure it out.
I didn't integrate
snowmanwithahat said:
Are you guys using google voice integration? I found that it started only playing ringtones once after integrating with google voice.
I've noticed the same thing as you guys have, can't figure it out.
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That could be it. I remember when I first got my phone the ringtone would loop. Sometime after GV/Sprint it stopped doing it.
I did integrate after getting my phone, and it use to loop while it was integrated I think...but then I turned the integration off after a while, lately I started noticing that the ringtones weren't looping.
I use music files for my phone that last until the phone is answered I never noticed
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I've done a bit of investigating with this and have yet to find a definitive answer. The ones that will repeat are on system media ringtones. They are all ogg. I was playing with Vespa.ogg. I made an ogg file and tried to disguise it as vespa. I made sure the audio file characteristics were similar. Permissions and ownership were copied too. I even changed the tag of the file of it's name and composer was the same. I copied my file on top of the real one in system and made everything ro and rebooted. None of that made any difference, it wouldn't loop. I opened up music app and played files. The original would loop but the imposter wouldn't. The only differences I still see is my file is 3k smaller and not the same date as all the other ogg files in the system folder. Other than that, all my theories of what is causing this behavior have been wrong.
Could it be md5 signatures? Date and time (I don't know how to change that only using the phone and gui)? Other than that I have no frigging clue. Anyone else motivated enough to figure it out? I can't think of anything else and don't know cli enough to agamgm things in a terminal window or emulator.
If I copied a file from system to sdcard, it would loop out of it's native folder. I don't know if a ringtone editing and assigning app would make any difference. It's too late and I'm too tired ATM to do anymore detective work today.
Its the gv integration. Do the same tests after you disable it.
herbthehammer said:
I've done a bit of investigating with this and have yet to find a definitive answer. The ones that will repeat are on system media ringtones. They are all ogg. I was playing with Vespa.ogg. I made an ogg file and tried to disguise it as vespa. I made sure the audio file characteristics were similar. Permissions and ownership were copied too. I even changed the tag of the file of it's name and composer was the same. I copied my file on top of the real one in system and made everything ro and rebooted. None of that made any difference, it wouldn't loop. I opened up music app and played files. The original would loop but the imposter wouldn't. The only differences I still see is my file is 3k smaller and not the same date as all the other ogg files in the system folder. Other than that, all my theories of what is causing this behavior have been wrong.
Could it be md5 signatures? Date and time (I don't know how to change that only using the phone and gui)? Other than that I have no frigging clue. Anyone else motivated enough to figure it out? I can't think of anything else and don't know cli enough to agamgm things in a terminal window or emulator.
If I copied a file from system to sdcard, it would loop out of it's native folder. I don't know if a ringtone editing and assigning app would make any difference. It's too late and I'm too tired ATM to do anymore detective work today.
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Mine was never integrated to begin with
Just to let you know, mine loops just fine.. 9023 gsm version.
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herbthehammer said:
Mine was never integrated to begin with
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yea, i remembered you said that after I posted that
thiagodark said:
Just to let you know, mine loops just fine.. 9023 gsm version.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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Are you picking one of the ogg files of ringtones that came with the phone? If you play the file you chose in a music app, how many seconds long is it? I just said to hell with it and found the ringtone I like and copy paste in an audio editing program on the computer enough times to make it 30 seconds long. Problem not solved but taken care of.
nope, i'm using a file seted by 'zedge' app, it's an mp3 file! i also use another short mp3 file and it also loops.
i'm on cm7 with stock kernel!
Is it possible there is only an issue with the Sprint version of the phone?
Grasping at straws now but anything is possible. If I remember, zedge you can download and has a built in trimmer and can assign stuff too.
I will play with ringdroid and the like and see what comes of it.

[Q] Doubts before jumping from Android to WP7: Have this issues been taken care of?

Hi there!
I'm a long-time Android user (since December 2009) and have watched some videos / read about Windows Phone 7 and found it pretty interesting at first glance. More than anything else, it's UI speed and smoothness right out of the box, it's minimalism and integration. The thing is, after I dug deeper, found some information in some sites/threads of XDA that kept me thinking if the OS is right for me.
I have had a Motorola Milestone and after it, a Samsung Galaxy S which is the one that I'm using right now (with an Android 2.3.5 custom rom).
I was decided to sell my SGS and buy a Motorola Atrix, most of all because of it's dual-core processor (and apparent nice smoothness right out of the box), resolution and HDMI-out with the bundled cable. Now I wanted to try the Samsung Focus, which is almost the same as my SGS hardware wise, but the apparently more optimized OS would make it's use a nicer experience.
The thing is, I've read quite a lot and made a list of some things and doubts about WP7 and Mango, and would like to know if after getting some answers I could finally decide what to do with my money. The Atrix is almost 200usd over the Focus, at least from what I have seen (have to buy it unlocked to use it in Argentina).
That was a WAY TOO LONG introduction, so now, the questions:
1) Is it true that there's no mass-storage mode when you plug it into a PC? You depend exclusively on the Zune app?
2) And linked to the previous one: I use linux (more precisely Ubuntu) on my main computer. Is that going to be a problem with file transfer and other stuff? I am forced to use a Windows PC?
3) Is there a way to stop the data transfer from my carrier? I don't want it to connect to internet other than by Wi-Fi when I don't ask for it.
4) Can the OS be set in a language and the keyboard prediction in a different one? Does the keyboard vibrate on keypress?
5) Can the contacts be synchronized with the GMail contacts as you do it on Android?
6) Can you make visible in contacts only the ones with a phone number added?
7) Since there's no notification light and the screen is a Super Amoled as the one in the SGS, is there an application like NoLED in Android, which allows you to use the screen as notification light?
8) Is there a free GPS app that uses offline maps? (I would prefer the ones of Garmin or Tomtom, but I'm open to alternatives)
9) Is it true that when you change the SD Card you have to format everything/hard reset the phone? Or just the memory? And if you happen to know, why is that requiered?
10) Are you forced to reduce quality of the videos you transfer to the phone because it doesn't support many formats? It's because of the "tie-ness" to Zune/lack of mass storage? Is there something similar happening with music?
11) Vibrate and ring at the same time, is it possible? (Read somewhere it wasn't). And what about adding custom ringtones?
12) I come from Android and know how easy it is to root the phone and expand your possibilities. Is there something similar in WP7? Is it worth the effort or it's still not widely used? I read something about lock/relock, has it something to do with this matter? Or with the use of downloaded paid apps?
I guess that's it for now. The thing is, the first 3 or 4 questions are deal-breakers to me if the answer is negative. I have read some stuff but I got confused between the release info, the post-NoDo and the post-Mango info, so I really don't get where are things at the moment. I really appreciate the time you spent reading all this and thank you for just doing it (and I'm sorry if some things aren't clear enough since english is not my native language). If you can help me by answering at least one of the questions, I'm already grateful
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!
jmtast said:
1) Is it true that there's no mass-storage mode when you plug it into a PC? You depend exclusively on the Zune app?
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More or less: There are some tricks how you can use your phone as mass stroage but not offically. So Zune is nearly a must-have
jmtast said:
2) And linked to the previous one: I use linux (more precisely Ubuntu) on my main computer. Is that going to be a problem with file transfer and other stuff? I am forced to use a Windows PC?
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I guess so.
But you will maybe able to get a VM running that bridges the usb port...
jmtast said:
3) Is there a way to stop the data transfer from my carrier? I don't want it to connect to internet other than by Wi-Fi when I don't ask for it.
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Yeah, easy to stop it. It's a option in the settings.
jmtast said:
4) Can the OS be set in a language and the keyboard prediction in a different one? Does the keyboard vibrate on keypress?
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You can switch between selected languages every time! Without going to the settings... It doesn't vibrate on mine, Dunno if you can enable it...
jmtast said:
5) Can the contacts be synchronized with the GMail contacts as you do it on Android?
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I think it's possible cuz there's a special option for adding a gmail account (but don't be angry if it's not possible cuz I nver tried it)
jmtast said:
6) Can you make visible in contacts only the ones with a phone number added?
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You can filter them by account (so hide all facebook accounts would maybe do the trick or so) but I think it's not possible the other way round
jmtast said:
7) Since there's no notification light and the screen is a Super Amoled as the one in the SGS, is there an application like NoLED in Android, which allows you to use the screen as notification light?
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Never seen anything like that...
jmtast said:
8) Is there a free GPS app that uses offline maps? (I would prefer the ones of Garmin or Tomtom, but I'm open to alternatives)
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There are some... Most of them use OSM/Google/Bing...
jmtast said:
9) Is it true that when you change the SD Card you have to format everything/hard reset the phone? Or just the memory? And if you happen to know, why is that requiered?
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Yes, it's true cuz wp7 has a raid 0 with the internal memory and the sd...
jmtast said:
10) Are you forced to reduce quality of the videos you transfer to the phone because it doesn't support many formats? It's because of the "tie-ness" to Zune/lack of mass storage? Is there something similar happening with music?
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You can set the music quality (kbit/s). And I never noticed any loss when I transfer a video via zune...
jmtast said:
11) Vibrate and ring at the same time, is it possible? (Read somewhere it wasn't). And what about adding custom ringtones?
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Yes, that's all possible...
jmtast said:
12) I come from Android and know how easy it is to root the phone and expand your possibilities. Is there something similar in WP7? Is it worth the effort or it's still not widely used? I read something about lock/relock, has it something to do with this matter? Or with the use of downloaded paid apps?
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Yes, you need a dev unlock to send apps from your pc to your phone for example... And there various other possibilities like Registry Editor, Apps with Interop etc. So it's quite useful to "root" your device...
Hope that helps you....
Just for info: I'm using an HD2 with Mango... So all the info is for mango only
based on your first 2 questions, I really suggest you stick with android.
WP7 is relying on the Zune Software and there's no Linux sollution. There's a mac sollution by MS, but not sure if it'll work in linux.
If your main PC is running Linux, you'd either have to always reboot into windows or try finding a VM sollution, which could easily introduce new problems.
Localhorst86 said:
based on your first 2 questions, I really suggest you stick with android.
WP7 is relying on the Zune Software and there's no Linux sollution. There's a mac sollution by MS, but not sure if it'll work in linux.
If your main PC is running Linux, you'd either have to always reboot into windows or try finding a VM sollution, which could easily introduce new problems.
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Agree with this. Windows Phone is great but not for a linux guy like you and the extent of customization available on Android is NOT available on wp7.
chabun said:
Yes, it's true cuz wp7 has a raid 0 with the internal memory and the sd...
99% sure this is incorrect? Yes you cant just hot-swap cards like you can in Andriod, but this being due to WP7 doing RAID 0 (or any RAID for that matter) must be incorrect???....
I use RAID 0, 1 and 5 on various computers but I cant see ANY phone having RAID capabilities?...Someone correct me if I am wrong as this would be big news to me. Not that I can see it being usefull on any mobile device.
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Thanks a lot for the fast, kind and useful answers guys.
I guess that, as Localhorst86 said, the OS has some limitations that I simply cannot avoid. It's a pity because I was really interested in trying this UI's approach, but gonna have to wait a bit more to see if they support Linux and evolve in some other areas.
Will start looking for the Atrix as I originally planned then.
Best regards.
Jdixon85 said:
I use RAID 0, 1 and 5 on various computers but I cant see ANY phone having RAID capabilities?...Someone correct me if I am wrong as this would be big news to me. Not that I can see it being usefull on any mobile device.
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I think it's actually more akin to an NTFS spanned volume than a hardware-based RAID 0, but practically speaking, yes, it does create a single logical volume that spans the internal + SD card memory, which is why it needs to be reformatted if you swap a card in/out.
bkaul said:
I think it's actually more akin to an NTFS spanned volume than a hardware-based RAID 0, but practically speaking, yes, it does create a single logical volume that spans the internal + SD card memory, which is why it needs to be reformatted if you swap a card in/out.
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more of a JBOD than a RAID, then.
Anway, I don't know how ms achieved the link between the sd card and the nand memory. And I do know that's not hardware raid 'cause the hd2 has no such controller on board
And yes it's JBOD but I can't tell you how the software layer controls them....

Nokia 3310 3G Flashing/Modding

Hi, not sure if this is the right place for this, but couldn't find a forum for this.
I would like to delete some files off my Nokia 3310 3G (2017) phone, specifically the opera browser and opera app store.
Is there any program like Bitpim that I can use to do this?
Thanks!
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Not tried BitPim but if you mount the filesystem on Linux then you can see the files and edit/delete them. However, it seems the apps are saved as .db files that I can't seem to read (I can open them but they are just symbols) so I don't know which app is which so haven't been able to edit them at all.
Let me know if you manage it!
philspence said:
Not tried BitPim but if you mount the filesystem on Linux then you can see the files and edit/delete them. However, it seems the apps are saved as .db files that I can't seem to read (I can open them but they are just symbols) so I don't know which app is which so haven't been able to edit them at all.
Let me know if you manage it!
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I just tried to mount the filesystem, and was only able to get the user partition. How did you get access to the system partition?
Harvey02 said:
Hi, not sure if this is the right place for this, but couldn't find a forum for this.
I would like to delete some files off my Nokia 3310 3G (2017) phone, specifically the opera browser and opera app store.
Is there any program like Bitpim that I can use to do this?
Thanks!
Sent from my X522 using Tapatalk
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Hi! Any luck? I have the Nokia 3310 2G version and I also want to delete Opera and the snake game...
Led flash
Hello dear,
I'd use the camera with always on automatic flash light.
It's so disturbing to turn it on at every time I'd take a photo...
Is there any option?
No luck as of yet.
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Hi! Any luck? I have the Nokia 3310 2G version and I also want to delete Opera and the snake game...
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zsoltip said:
Hello dear,
I'd use the camera with always on automatic flash light.
It's so disturbing to turn it on at every time I'd take a photo...
Is there any option?
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I've just got answers from Nokia (HMD) support:
Questions:
1.) How can I move text messages (in- and out folders too) from Nokia 310 to the new Nokia 3310 (2017)?
2.) I couldn't find any option in menu to update the FW. Is it any possibility? I tried also to use Nokia Suite with cable, and via bluetooth too, but 3310 is not a supported device.
3.) Camera: If I open camera "app", and would use flashlight (LED), I have to click up-left button, and choose "flashlight on" option.
After I close camera app, and reopen, I have to choose it againe, in any way the device won't use flashlight.
4.) I inserted 2GB microSD card, because of the law integrated memory. If I open Gallery (to watch pictures I took), I have to click 4 times to the middle of D-pad, to watch the first pics... there are many not useful information about memorycard storeging, and so on... Is it any "less-clicking" option to open pics?
From camera app it's like same...
5.) I've just found 2 sizes of fonts. Is there any option to enlarge it? From any service menu...or any other?
Answers:
Question number 1: The only way to transfer text messages is to send them to the new phone as new ones, so it will coast some money.
Question number 2: When you ask about the update of FW, you mean that you want to update the OS ?
If we have understood you correctly, we would like to inform you that there isn't such possibility.
Question number 3: Every single time when you close the Camera app, the options that you have turned on will turn off. So if you want to use the flashlight you will have to choose it from the left button.
Question number 4: For the moment you will have to click several times to open the picture, as there isn't an option in the settings to change this.
Question number 5: Unfortunately there are only two types of the font size - Normal and Large.
philspence said:
Not tried BitPim but if you mount the filesystem on Linux then you can see the files and edit/delete them. However, it seems the apps are saved as .db files that I can't seem to read (I can open them but they are just symbols) so I don't know which app is which so haven't been able to edit them at all.
Let me know if you manage it!
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Hi, can you please explain how you were able to mount the file system with Linux? I would love to try this!
Thank you.
tattar8 said:
I just tried to mount the filesystem, and was only able to get the user partition. How did you get access to the system partition?
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they mentioned a software called "bitpim." upon a quick google search i found that its a tool for viewing the filesystem on whatever a "CDMA phone" is. im assuming our 3310's are all CDMAs
greenChains said:
they mentioned a software called "bitpim." upon a quick google search i found that its a tool for viewing the filesystem on whatever a "CDMA phone" is. im assuming our 3310's are all CDMAs
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right, sorry. my mistake lol. i had no clue what i was talking about there

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