I got my self the hero, and my wife the Moment. I am slightly jealous of the hardware she has..but that aside, I am in love with my Hero.
However, she does have one app that i really want and the market place does not have. I assume this is an app installed by sprint.
It is Photo and Video uploader. You set an email address or other location and after a video or photo is taken, it automatically uploads the photo to the predetermined destination. GREAT FOR BACKING UP PICTURES! But, her camera hardware blows. 3.2 MP and it is sooo slow. So picture quality is no where near that of the Hero's 5 MP.
So the real question here - -
Can I ADB into her phone and just take the .APK and ODEX file for this app and push it to my phone? Is it that easy???
Some apps are that easy. Give it a try and find out! The worst thing you'll get is some force closes.
However most stock apps require files from /system/lib that help run that apk. And they don't have the same naming convention therefore you won't know which one(s) it is amongst the 100s there. But I always say try and see what happens.
And if it works upload that .apk for the rest of us!
Thinking out loud here...well..you get the point.
Could I copy all of system/lib and only copy the files that dont already exist?
That could be a giant waste of space though, and it could still rely on a file that I have, not just one that isn't there....
Also since I am not "installing" the app, could Apps2SD hinder me? I am not entirely sure how a2sd works other than tricking the phone into using the SD card as a partition and unioning it with the existing part.
I love how open android is supposed to be, but how the darn manufacturers kill us with the different platform crap.
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And if it works upload that .apk for the rest of us!
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Am I aloud to do that? I have seen XDA Mods get on to some people about uploading APK's. I guess I should read the EULA for that app before I do?
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Thinking out loud here...well..you get the point.
Could I copy all of system/lib and only copy the files that dont already exist?
That could be a giant waste of space though, and it could still rely on a file that I have, not just one that isn't there....
Also since I am not "installing" the app, could Apps2SD hinder me? I am not entirely sure how a2sd works other than tricking the phone into using the SD card as a partition and unioning it with the existing part.
I love how open android is supposed to be, but how the darn manufacturers kill us with the different platform crap.
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Copying the ../lib/ over and not replacing existing files could work. lol. As for apps2sd... you kind of have two ways you can try installing this. Without copying the lib and all that just try putting the apk on to your sdcard and browsing to it using astro or linda (a file manager) and click on the apk and installing it. See if it errors out or fails. If it does, THEN try copying it and the odex to /system/app (if it has an odex I'm pretty confident you won't be able to install it using package manager). If that still fails then you can go crazy and trying copying the lib ha.
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Am I aloud to do that? I have seen XDA Mods get on to some people about uploading APK's. I guess I should read the EULA for that app before I do?
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I don't remember if I read it on here or ppcgeeks but I believe officially the only stock apk's not allowed is quick office. But don't quote me on that.
So I hooked up to the Moment through ADB last night.
Found out really quickly that I can SU with it....
There is a "non permanent" hack out there to become root, but I tried it and still couldn't mount the file system to copy from it.
Any ideas guys?
From what I understand the Moment uses an FS16? file System? Something Odd that non of the other droids seem to be using.
Just an Idea, thought I would throw it out there.
Does the temporary root allow for running applications as root an the device itself?
There is an app in the market called root explorer that allows copy/paste/cut/delete from the system/app folder.
It may be possible to use that app to copy the needed filed to your sdcard and then extract them from there.
This would all be contingent on the app being able to mount the directory as r/w though, so who knows, worth a shot though i guess.
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Just an Idea, thought I would throw it out there.
Does the temporary root allow for running applications as root an the device itself?
There is an app in the market called root explorer that allows copy/paste/cut/delete from the system/app folder.
It may be possible to use that app to copy the needed filed to your sdcard and then extract them from there.
This would all be contingent on the app being able to mount the directory as r/w though, so who knows, worth a shot though i guess.
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This root doesn't allow you to run Root apps. not sure why, seems like root would be root.
After some reading, the root method that is being used on the Moment is not the safest. Apparently if you skip a step you have a brick. And with no Nandroid backup at the moment(pun?) I would HATE to attempt it. Apparently though Root sticks until you reboot. There is an INit. script that runs and resets the permisions.
I know, "Don't skips steps and you'll be ok"
I may get brave and try it tonight...
as far as I can tell you cannot install this app on the hero. I'm not sure what the app is called and unless it starts in the /data folder it is under the system dumps
http://www.4shared.com/file/149766091/c3a7ee61/momentsystem.html
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as far as I can tell you cannot install this app on the hero. I'm not sure what the app is called and unless it starts in the /data folder it is under the system dumps
http://www.4shared.com/file/149766091/c3a7ee61/momentsystem.html
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ROCK ON! Thanks for the link to the dump, I hadn't thought about looking around in one of these.
I will post what I find out.
WOOT IT WORKS!!!!!
So any how the application is in that Dump under apps, its only an APK
xms-android-1.0.42-prod.apk
If you are interested in what it does:
You setup predetermined "places" Flikr, FB, EMAIL, what ever.
Any picture or video you take automatically gets put in an upload queue and it sent to your predetermined places.
I am using it for back up, I have 2 kids and sometimes the cell phone is the quickest way to snap a great picture. Keeping these pictures in mutltiple places, like your 7 gig google account, is a nifty way to backup.
I am waiting for a Mod to get back to me if I can post the APK or not. I don't want to get in trouble.
wonder if their youtube app has better picture quality than ours?
BrianDigital said:
wonder if their youtube app has better picture quality than ours?
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I will let you know in a few minutes. As soon as I get done with my WiFi teether I will compare the two. Pretty sure they should be the same.
EDIT: I am not sure if it is hardware or not. Running the same youTube video side by side - Our HERO has better color quality, Deeper blacker. The Moment has slightly sharper edges to the pictures, not quite as blurry. the moment does not go "Full Screen" for videos either which could be contributing to the sharper look to things. My assumption would be that this is a difference in the hardware. Quality of youTube videos seems to have diminished over the years anyways, none of the really look "good" any more. Probably in an effort to save bandwidth.
However, if you want to take a look personally, I will post the APK for you. Just please don't blame me if you forget to back up the original and want to revert....I love disclaimers.
I was trying to use that picture uploader, for me it stalls on picking a new location. Wonder if it is because I am on gutted rom and missing some pointers somewhere
BrianDigital said:
I was trying to use that picture uploader, for me it stalls on picking a new location. Wonder if it is because I am on gutted rom and missing some pointers somewhere
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I am using MoDaCo + Optimizations w/ ZipAlign. Not sure if its worth the switch for you or not.
I have never used Gutted so I do not know what it offers/doesn't have.
Gutted is as vanilla as our Rom can get. It's quick too
that's pretty cool and sounds like a great idea for backing up pics so what all would I need to do to get this and install it I have root access already
Kcarpenter said:
WOOT IT WORKS!!!!!
So any how the application is in that Dump under apps, its only an APK
xms-android-1.0.42-prod.apk
If you are interested in what it does:
You setup predetermined "places" Flikr, FB, EMAIL, what ever.
Any picture or video you take automatically gets put in an upload queue and it sent to your predetermined places.
I am using it for back up, I have 2 kids and sometimes the cell phone is the quickest way to snap a great picture. Keeping these pictures in mutltiple places, like your 7 gig google account, is a nifty way to backup.
I am waiting for a Mod to get back to me if I can post the APK or not. I don't want to get in trouble.
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Wow... that's a really cool program... and just so you know, you can "install" it using adb and it still works fine
Code:
adb install xms-android-1.0.42-prod.apk
Then it will install in /data/apps (or if you have apps2sd, on the sdcard under /system/sd/apps)
Works great on the Sprint Hero and MoDaCo ROM
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I am waiting for a Mod to get back to me if I can post the APK or not. I don't want to get in trouble.
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The only rule regarding it would be
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.
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which your app doesn't fit in to. Posting it is not outside of the rules and should be fine.
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Hi everyone, as many of you guys have noticed, the newer firmwares do not come with the Amazon MP3 application. For those of you who want this, here is a tutorial on installing.
First, download the com.amazon.mp3.zip file uploaded, and place it on your desktop. DO NOT OPEN IT OR EXTRACT IT. Change .zip extension to .apk. For those of you who do not know how to do that, hit Start> My Computer> Organization> Folder and Search Options> and Uncheck "Hide Extentions for Known File Types". Then, delete the .zip extension and type in .apk. Have your G1 ready and plugged in, as you will be using ADB to install this program.
Open up command prompt and type:
cd desktop
adb install com.amazon.mp3.apk
exit
It should now be installed!
For those of you who do not have ADB installed for whatever reason, place the com.amazon.mp3.apk onto your SDcard. Then, using a file manager on your G1 (I use OIfilemanager) navigate to the location where the file is placed and install.
Also, the com.amazon.mp3.apk can also be extracted directly from RC and JF 1.4x builds.
NOTE TO MODS: I understand that Amazon MP3 is not an open source application. Therefore, if for any reason if you guys do not feel that uploading this apk is allowed, feel free to remove this post.
Paying $1 per mp3 can add up over time
With RC 33 i wanted to removed this program, now that JF 1.50 removed automatically, do you believe that i will tried this? But thanks anyway...
PS- People DL music MP3's on theirs PC' for free, Amazon Sucks!
Sometimes I find Amazon MP3 useful for previewing a CD while I am at the library.
By the way, there is no need to distribute the apk here when anyone can just extract it themselves legally from an official update.zip
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Sometimes I find Amazon MP3 useful for previewing a CD while I am at the library.
By the way, there is no need to distribute the apk here when anyone can just extract it themselves legally from an official update.zip
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Yeah I understand that, I'm just saving them the trouble of having to do it themselves. However, when you say "legally" do you mean distributing this apk is illegal? If so I will remove it.
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However, when you say "legally" do you mean distributing this apk is illegal? If so I will remove it.
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It's not expressly forbidden. The general stance on xda is as long as the software in question isn't payware, then it is okay (of course a mod is free to make a judgement otherwise). However, everyone should have a RC33 or somesuch build lying around that they can extract the file from themselves anyway.
Seems that most folks don't appreciate the usefulness of Amazon MP3 as a source of track preview. I just wish that it still integrated into ShopSaavy and CompareEverywhere. Used to be you could scan a barcode of a CD and it would pull up the CD on Amazon MP3. If anyone knows how to make this work with current software versions, let me know.
Thank you for the explicit directions. This worked great on my G1 and my friend's using a mac.
Well, I guess that means we will wait for a mod to say something... next in line.. PDFviewer.
Okay, PDFviewer will not work on my JF1.50 build. Just for fun I also tried to push the H build camera and the H build dialer. The pushed camera resulted in the camera app disappearing all together along with the camcorder, gallery and picture frame widget. The H build dialer caused the phone to be completely unresponsive.
Remember, always use a Nandroid backup when attempting risky procedures
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Well, I guess that means we will wait for a mod to say something... next in line.. PDFviewer.
Okay, PDFviewer will not work on my JF1.50 build. Just for fun I also tried to push the H build camera and the H build dialer. The pushed camera resulted in the camera app disappearing all together along with the camcorder, gallery and picture frame widget. The H build dialer caused the phone to be completely unresponsive.
Remember, always use a Nandroid backup when attempting risky procedures
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If you want to extract features from Haykuro's H build for 1.50 installation, I suggest you hook up ddms so you can get realtime debugging and see what libraries/functions are being called that are causing problems. It should work in the emulator too.
By the way PDFViewer's dependencies have been well established, but the program checks some unknown properties of the build and will refuse to run for non-HTC builds. Decompiling the dex might lead to clues as to what it is and how to workaround it or patch the apk. I'm actually hoping it will just run unmodified on the official T-Mo 1.5 rom expected any day now.
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If you want to extract features from Haykuro's H build for 1.50 installation, I suggest you hook up ddms so you can get realtime debugging and see what libraries/functions are being called that are causing problems. It should work in the emulator too.
By the way PDFViewer's dependencies have been well established, but the program checks some unknown properties of the build and will refuse to run for non-HTC builds. Decompiling the dex might lead to clues as to what it is and how to workaround it or patch the apk. I'm actually hoping it will just run unmodified on the official T-Mo 1.5 rom expected any day now.
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hehehhe! We can always dream can't we...
lol HTC dream.. well, I do not know how to work apps, or port them or anything, so that is pretty much out of the question. Ill just stick with the obvious ones.
Much thanks!! I wanted Amazon back.
thanks
works on JF flawless. no issue yet. Thanks.
I installed the Amazon MP3 apk night before last and found that the search function wouldn't open its search box. I uninstalled and then pushed it to /system/app via adb and now it works just fine. FWIW, I have apps on SD (the symlink version).
That is good, and does anyone know if the Teeter game from the original Haykuro H build requires some sort of special resource or something? As the game installs, but force closes on startup.
thank you very much for this... anybody got a fix for myfaves???
jashsu said:
If you want to extract features from Haykuro's H build for 1.50 installation, I suggest you hook up ddms so you can get realtime debugging and see what libraries/functions are being called that are causing problems. It should work in the emulator too.
By the way PDFViewer's dependencies have been well established, but the program checks some unknown properties of the build and will refuse to run for non-HTC builds. Decompiling the dex might lead to clues as to what it is and how to workaround it or patch the apk. I'm actually hoping it will just run unmodified on the official T-Mo 1.5 rom expected any day now.
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hehehe. the properties aren't unknown. It's a library, and 2 framework files.
TheDudeOfLife said:
hehehe. the properties aren't unknown. It's a library, and 2 framework files.
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So you have PDFViewer working without the "Only for HTC devices" nag screen?
Haha mind enlightening us??
someone run some diffs on thedudes libs and framework files =P!
CES is upon us (well soon) and I will be attending the conference along with about 300,000 others. However, I doubt there are many others with the intention of coming back with a bit of honey as I am.
Motorola will supposedly have their honeycomb tablet there, among other manufacturers I'm sure. What would be the most surefire way to bring back some bits and pieces of the software for us to tear apart?
My plan upfront was to create a zip file of the entire /system partition and then upload it to a server. Chances are whatever I do, I'll have to do it fast. If I'm crowding a device, it will probably look suspicious. What are the most surefire ways for me to pull system data off of the device, compress it, and upload it in a usable format? Obviously a nandroid backup is out of the equation, as is anything that will take more than 5 minutes to accomplish. I think I could probably upload the file in the background of the device, so the time I have will be for making the copy.
So what do you think? Any software I should look into that will help the cause? Anything else that I might be overlooking? Also, totally into some feedback here if anyone thinks this is just a dumb idea to begin with.
tl;dr: whats the quickest way to archive an entire android system partition and upload it to a server using tools only available on the device?
dude, you GO buddy! just don't get caught huh?
ok, so I looked into what this is going to take and I think i have a game plan. Someone please step up and tell me if this is out of line:
Assuming I can get to actually play with the device: download a terminal emulator. I should have the apk prepared and ready to go on my own personal server along with a few backup versions.
Download a binary from my server that allows zip access. I should be able to use gzip or bzip2, both are in busybox, so that might be another step. Assuming that I get the binaries for those, the next step would be creating a /bin/ file in the /data/ directory. (I am not sure if this will work. I need to do more research, but I think that would be in the path.) I would have to do this all from /data/ because obviously, I wont have root access (I think... this would be so much easier if moto decided to leave su on the phone )
Run gzip or bzip2 on the /system/ partion, saving to /sdcard/. Using the browser on the phone, upload this file to mediafire or similar filesharing service. Or, better yet, bluetooth it to another personal device nearby. My estimations say that would take about 15 minutes though to complete the transfer.
Anyone see any flaws?
Im kinda of a turb0 n00b but I love this idea, hopefully superuser is on the device, the place will be packed, just find a buddy or two to help distract the other demo hosts. Hopefully it will be crowded enough where you can just dissappear if something goes wrong.
I love the idea and I hope it works. Sorry I couldn't offer any technical advice.
if they suspect something just start rebooting the device hopefully to cover it up, maybe load something on your server where you can type a command and hopefully wipe any logs/traces of tampering etc.
man, I hope this works!
Last year, Moto's booth had a good distraction vs employee ratio. They had a stage set up in the middle of the booth with performers doing amazing juggling and stupid human tricks. Distracted almost everyone. Should give me my five minutes.
The only thing I'm worried about is that the tablet will be under glass and not user handleable. We will see what happens.
I'd say try to background everything unobtrusively so you can leave and still have it running, then check mediafire frequently so that Moto doesn't have enough time to find what you've done and issue a takedown notice. It's pretty easy to mount an ftp server in Windows, so once it's done uploading you could whip out a laptop and download it directly to your server. I would also like to offer my services for mirroring. If you need access to my server from CES, PM me and I'll give you an account with r/w access to a separate directory (can't be too careful) so you can upload.
Oh, and if it has GApps, just download Astro and zip /system into /sdcard or wherever, then bluetooth it to yourself.
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Oh, and if it has GApps, just download Astro and zip /system into /sdcard or wherever, then bluetooth it to yourself.
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Will astro handle a zip operation? And do you think its capable of zipping the entire system partition?
And even if it didnt have gapps, I could grab the astro .apk and have it ready on my server when I get there.
That would be WAY easier than downloading the binaries from busybox and running all of this through CLI (although less fun )
I think I need to find a more graceful way to get the file onto a server once I've dumped it. Know of any ftp applications?
On a semi-related note, there are announcements left and right about honeycomb from other manufacturers besides Moto that will have goods at CES. that means that if the moto tabs are locked down or my process fails there, I can try with other vendors!
If at CES they have a open WiFi network you could use a FTP service on your phone and dump data onto there, so that way you can stay untraceable.
I wish I could help you with ziping the system or whatever but I have no experience with Android....yet .
Good Luck!
If there is such a high level of interest why doesn't moto just make it available?
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Well, bad news. According to Moto's PR, they wont have the tablet on display at this year's CES. It's just "not ready".
That is not to say, however, that there will not be other Honeycomb tablets available. I still have my tools prepared and I'm ready to get what ever I can. Project Honeypot is still a go!
project honeypot... lol
man I wish you the best!
Well..., anything?
How'd it go dude?
Today a friend of mine wanted to install a .apk file on his Android phone and he did not have a clue on how to do this.
So.. After some hours PHP coding here I created an online tool for him (and other newbies).
Basically the users selects the .apk he wants to install, and points his Android camera to the given QR code.
Please have a look at http://bit.ly/e4mLXu , and let me know what you think.
Some things like About and FAQ are still missing, but will be added later this week.
Thank you.
It's a good concept but the site layout is so unnecessary, you don't need all those unneeded images and links in the website that has nothing to do with its function.
armoguy94 said:
It's a good concept but the site layout is so unnecessary, you don't need all those unneeded images and links in the website that has nothing to do with its function.
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Thank you for your input.. I guess that I did go over the top a bit on the design.... But I was really in my zone when doing the page layout
I'm re-doing it at the moment, and I will try to keep it as KISS as possible.
Once again thank you for your input.
Awesome idea. A friend of mine just got her first Android phone, and is pretty clueless about installing APKs, even though I rooted her phone and walked her through it with Root Explorer. This will make it much simpler for her.
Good idea! Can save some time. It`s already saved in my favorites!
file manager, astro..
this is for first class rookies
Sorry but have I missed something here??
Why on earth would ANYBODY really actually need to use this? (no offence) Has your friend lost the plot?
Why would you go through all this instead of simply installing a file manager liek ASTRO via the market?
a) Copy apk to sd card/phone
b) install ASTRO File Manager from market.
c) Install apk
How difficult is that?
If I have missed something here please explain because I cant think of any scenario where this would be an advantage.
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Sorry but have I missed something here??
Why on earth would ANYBODY really actually need to use this? (no offence) Has your friend lost the plot?
Why would you go through all this instead of simply installing a file manager liek ASTRO via the market?
a) Copy apk to sd card/phone
b) install ASTRO File Manager from market.
c) Install apk
How difficult is that?
If I have missed something here please explain because I cant think of any scenario where this would be an advantage.
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unless that not everyone knows those steps.
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Sorry but have I missed something here??
Why on earth would ANYBODY really actually need to use this? (no offence) Has your friend lost the plot?
Why would you go through all this instead of simply installing a file manager liek ASTRO via the market?
a) Copy apk to sd card/phone
b) install ASTRO File Manager from market.
c) Install apk
How difficult is that?
If I have missed something here please explain because I cant think of any scenario where this would be an advantage.
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I have not looked at it yet, but this allows you to do it without connecting the phone to the pc right?
Logical order for your instructions
a) Install ASTRO File Manager from market.
b) Copy apk to sd card/phone
c) Install apk
repeat steps b and c for other .apks
It is a great idea,and nicely done. but i will stay with the other method.
i think its great especially when you forget your usb cable, i never leave home with out but i forgot it, surfing thru xda and didnt feel like opening xda app on phone just download upload install, also, when paw server is down i guess, nice work.
Oops... The site is getting a lot of attention at the moment as it made the XDA's frontpage!
I guess that it's time to start putting together a FAQ for the site.
Things like:
Q: Sorry but have I missed something here??
Why on earth would ANYBODY really actually need to use this? (no offence) Has your friend lost the plot?
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A: I have not looked at it yet, but this allows you to do it without connecting the phone to the pc
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its great especially when you forget your usb cable.
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will be in it
Thank you all for the input.
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I have not looked at it yet, but this allows you to do it without connecting the phone to the pc right?
Logical order for your instructions
a) Install ASTRO File Manager from market.
b) Copy apk to sd card/phone
c) Install apk
repeat steps b and c for other .apks
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Err how is that any more "logical" then what I said?
It doesn't make a difference which way around you do a&b so one order isnt any more or less logical then the other.
Your logic fails
deolarte said:
i think its great especially when you forget your usb cable, i never leave home with out but i forgot it, surfing thru xda and didnt feel like opening xda app on phone just download upload install, also, when paw server is down i guess, nice work.
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Ok so if you where not at home and didnt have a USB cable, you could simply email the apk to yourself or use your friends card reader/card slot/dongle etc. There are a million different ways that are much quicker then this. Not trying to dis OP/site etc just suprised that this has been made front page news?
I love how quickly people try to smash an idea just cause it's not their way...what if the user doesn't have a file manager installed? Left their USB cable? Doesn't want to login to a webmail account for security reasons? There are tons of reasons to use this...I say scale it up, and somehow work out longer time periods for the QR codes (Maybe only for registered users?)...besides, it's always nice to have some functional PHP code that could be used in other projects.
I just used this and it is awesome! thank you thank you thank you!
sorry, but its useless. also harder and takes longer time than just copying to sd.
not everybody gets the idea of Astro/File manager.
this is just another way to get to the goal.
sometimes, even if you try to show them a better way of doing things, they still prefer another way which may seem not logical/takes a longer time.
This is a neat idea. it might not appeal to everybody, but it may help somebody.
I don't get this either. I email the apk to my gmail and there's an option in Gmail on your phone for you to install the app.
Hey, i found great use for this. I downloaded a couple of APKs and needed to quickly dl them, and install them. Too lazy to connect to my computer or email it. So much faster.
One cosmetic issue: when I upload an apk the name changes to a crazy long string. Any way to shorten that? I realize you can't keep the original apk name but a simple numbering system (each new upload +1 id kind of a thing) or whatever else might work better. It's not required, but just my input love it!
niceeee!!! this is exactly what i wanted!
Hi folks,
As you can tell from the title I'm a smartphone noob and didn't realise you couldn't do this (see the amount of people I've spoke to who didn't even notice you can't delete apps that come with the phone! What's with that?).
But as you can see I emphasised the 'why', 'cause I've searched everywhere but can't find a reason as to why. I'd assume it was just so you can't delete bloatware, but even the Nexus that runs on stock Android has the same issue.
Does anyone know why (or guess why) you can't delete preinstalled apps?
Thanks!
If your device is rooted, all you have to do is download Root Explorer from the market and delete the APK files from the system.
They're located in: /system/app/
You have to press "Mount R/W" on the top right of the application before you can read and write. Make sure hit "Mount R/O" in the same spot after you're done editing though. Also, make sure that what you're deleting isn't something you need and you should probably back-up the .APK files to be safe. If you mess up and don't back up, you can still just re-flash or re-download GAPPS without a problem. Have fun .
Thanks
I was thinking about rooting my phone actually, I'll check that out (I'm sooooo going to back up everything lol).
But! The question was WHY you can't delete the preinstalled apps. Does anyone know the reasoning behind it?
You're welcome mate .
Just for safety I suppose. And you should definitely root your phone, it'll open a whole new world for you!
manufacturer /operator agreements...
tmpchr said:
manufacturer /operator agreements...
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That and basically without rooting your phone it's basically like a comps guest profile. A lot less can mess up if you can't play around with certain files/settings.
Makes sense.
Thanks folks
I am also unhappy that i cannot uninstall apps that came with the phone and i have yet to find a good reason as to why not. most of the apps i want to delete are free on the market, already compatible with my phone and can be deleted or uninstalled without causing any major issues.
tmpchr says "manufacturer /operator agreements..."
ok ill buy that, sounds like a good business opportunity, (i would do it) good advertising, shared/reduced costs...etc. but the end user should still have the option to remove.
I totally agree with you guys, at the very beginning I had so big apps installed on my device (motorola xt720), for instance MotoNav was about 1.5 GB and spoiled my battery life. Luckily I discovered how to root the device and now, using "root uninstaller" that you find in the market, all of them are just a memory
You could also use Titanium Backup to remove programs.
There is some way to remove the native apps from my rooted razr maxx hd?
braianh said:
There is some way to remove the native apps from my rooted razr maxx hd?
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Yes, however it is much better to freeze the app. You can use Titanium Backup to do that https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&hl=en
When you freeze it, under the default setting of Titanium Backup, it will still get updates and remain frozen (won't be used by the system or be in the app drawer or on the home screens). This is much safer than removing it because if the phone misbehaves you can always unfreeze the app as well. There's no real reason to remove the app by deleting it.
If you do want to delete it, then native apps live in the /system/app/ folder, which is mounted as a read only filesystem. Since you are rooted, you can remount it so that you can read and write to the folder and delete the app, however that said, its much better to simply rename the app. I haven't renamed apps in the system folder on this phone (just got it) but have on the Samsung SGS II, which is a much safer phone to play around with like this from the look of it so far, though.
Every app on a stock install has two files, one with a .apk file extention and one with and .odex file extention. From experience with the other Android phone, you can just rename something to, for example, videoplayer.apk.backup and videoplayer.odex.backup. It can be renamed back later if you need to. You want a file browser that will remount the filesystem so that its rewritable. Root Explorer is what I've used but there's plenty of others that are gaining in popularity. It can be done at the command line as well.
All of the above said, though, you really, really, really, want to make sure that you aren't freezing or deleting or renaming an app like this that will interfere with your ability to undo it. If you do something that gets the phone stuck with lots of things crashing and making the phone unresponsive, or worse unbootable, then that's a very bad situation. It was always really easy to deal with from the recovery screen on my SGS II but I haven't yet tried things out on my RAZR HD in this fashion and things are differant when it comes to it. I haven't tried much out yet.
Also, and I really don't want to come off as being rude, and I hate it when people do on this forum, but because you had to ask if it was possible on a rooted phone at all sort of indicates that you might want to get as much advice about what you want to freeze or delete before doing it. Its prudent on any phone and less is more until you've gathered more information; and from the amount of support on this phone's section (low number of people having the phone and tinkering at this point) of the forum my guess is that this it will take some time and patients to get all the answers and information that you want before going balls deep.
Good luck, and remember that less is more, and that support will grow over time.
If you delete you will have a difficult time taking the next OTA. Freeze them. There is almost no space to be had by removing them.