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There are a lot of topics in the forum about people having trouble finding compatible headphones to work for music and "remote" control the phone playback.
the Bluetooth A2DP works perfectly fine in SGS for both Car Receivers and Stereo headset, and it switch transparently between music to phone calls and back without a glitch.
(i can't say the same for WM phones, another reason why i left WM platform, PalmOS was good, but is no longer produced)
There are lots of excellent Stereo BT headphones in the market now, both Studio like or simple 1 ear type, whatever ticks your fancy, the studio type offers the best audio quality even over BT.
yes it might consume more battery, but battery replacements are very inexpensive. (see accessories section)
I've not looked back to use a wired headphones since BT Stereo was invented, i used to have wired headphones for breakfast, it was a mass murder of headphones every time you get in the bus or subway, i've saved a lot of money since i moved to BT, so it's very surprising to still see people trying to work out the wiring problems with the headsets
I've been there before, every time i switched to a new phone, i needed to find another adapter to convert this to that, so that i can do something as simple as answer the phone on the headset, it was a major PITA.
so it'll be interesting to hear your side of the story to prefer wire over BT (other than "saving" battery and "better sound quality")
I find the bluetooth headsets to be kind of douchie personally. I also don't like the idea of keeping a radio transmitter attached to my head for extended periods (same goes for stereo bluetooth). Whilst I don't particularly believe in the freaks who claim they are radio sensitive, we don't really have any way of knowing how safe they are.
Extra convenience perhaps? Not for general usage. I work unpacking boxes all night and I use hardwired headphones, and it has never gotten in the way (so why bother coughing up a lot of extra money for a technology with potentially worse sound quality and negligible benefits).
IT also chews through battery as you mentioned, but i'm also learning to fly. You never know when you regret sucking up the battery earlier in the day for a technology whose only benefit is no cord.
There are benefits for Bluetooth, such as integrating with a car stereo, some flight headsets have bt built in, transferring files and connecting to special adapters which normally would need USB (such as NMEA GPS or OBD2 devices). But realistically, replacing hardwired headphones with bluetooth seems to be a case of doing so because some people think it gives them an identity. There are very few I believe who actually benefit. But that's only an opinion....
More battery consumption on both the phone and the headset. Which means more cost and more responsibility (buying or keeping batteries charged). Worse sound quality is present with bt than what you'll get in high end headphones, I am always using either high end buds or noise cancelling headsets.
I find the bt thing a bit like nutrasweet, it might sound like a good idea, I just don't want to touch the stuff.
I'd have to buy a stereo Bluetooth headset, as I don't own one, and then I'd have to remember to keep it charged and carry it with me.
I'm sure it would work okay, but I don't have a problem with a wired headset, so a Bluetooth one would only really cost money and make me liable to forget to charge it.
Interesting post AllGamer. Care to point me with some recommendations on good stereo bluetooth headphones?
i replied back to some other topic with that info in the accessories section, i'll need to dig it out
here is the topic i was posting on the reviews
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7611857&postcount=4
+1 vote for Motorola HT820, it is simply the VERY BEST! of them all; in funtionality, ease of use, sound purity, and comfy level.
other ones i've and still using but don't like are:
Jabra BT8010 (good but always breaks the earloop)
Sony HBH-DS980 (too much wire, it defeats the purpose of bluetooth)
Sony DRBT21G (pales in comparison to Moto HT820, but it's passable, not comfy though)
BlueTake BT420Rx (Gen1 bluetooth, no A2DP, limited features, very comfy, good sound, but it looks like princess leia specially if you have the white version)
Plantronics Voyager 855 (pure garbage, no A2DP)
Motorola S9 (dies easily with sweat dripped into the device, bad design, it's a total failure compare to its big brother HT820)
my top 2 choices for sound are:
HT820
BT420Rx
my top choice for formar work/fun mix
BT8010
unfortunately the BT8010 is very prone at breaking the earloop even with careful use, i went through 3 sets of it already.
luckily enough when you buy these they come in pairs with the stereo side, so i always use the stereo side of the earloop to replace the main headset, as i seldomly use the stereo side of the headset, i mostly just use the single side of it.
for real stereo i'll much prefer to use the HT820
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and some related one for car
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726403&highlight=bluetooth
I have a Jabra BT8010 and it's an amazing piece of hardware. Excellent battery life, rich bass, equalizer, comfortable and great sound quality.
In my opinion, BT headsets are a convenience, and I sincerely disagree with being related with "douchebaggery" or "looking for an identity".
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Hi,
Used the Sony Ericsson HBH-IS800's before when I had a SE phone and they work a treat on the Galaxy S too. There are no controls, but I like to use the phone as the "remote" which is fine.
I find them convenient for listening to music on the tube when packed in and shouldering a bag. Sounds good enough to me, though I am not an audiophile.
BTW: I noticed on the 2.2 test frimware JP3 that the eq effects worked across BT unlike current version that says you need to plug in headphones.
In terms of battery I manage approx 3 hours a day which does my commute to and from work. They also work quite good with Galaxy S when watching videos too.
Cheers,
well for the galaxy s its simple ... the 5.1 audio enhancement says enough for u to use wired.
I got 3 sony stereo bt headsets and the only reason why i use it is for the convenience during commute. I dont want my phone getting tangled up somewhere in the metro and end up falling out being damaged or lost because of my headphone cord.
I feel much safer knowing its deep in my pocket without fear of it accidentally slipping out.
But when I am at work by my desk i use wired ... saves battery as well.
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In my opinion, BT headsets are a convenience
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Explain convenient.. What exactly is so convenient for them over normal headphones, which deliver better quality sound for cheaper? There are some people who do get benefits by using them (at work), where they need to free their hands and cant really have cables swinging around, such as computer technicians, but most people seem to use them whilst they are simply walking around..
quality wired headphones cost as much, if not more than a stereo bluetooth headset.
for example Sennheiser HD 448 (average $100)
those $30 ones just doesn't cut it, you need the base, the sub.
but if you go up the next level Audio-Technica ATH-M50 (average $150)
and if you go higher Sennheiser HD 800
but it's too big for my head, and wallet too (almost $1500)
in the past i broke a lot of those $100 entry level headphones
another down side of using headphones, you can't talk/answer the phone with them, you have to unplug, remove the headphones then talk.
with bluetooth it is just a simple click of a button in the ear
Using a sony DR-BT21G. Loving it so far. Only downside is the massive charger. Kinda wish it can run on usb charger instead. It only needs 3V after all.
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another down side of using headphones, you can't talk/answer the phone with them, you have to unplug, remove the headphones then talk.
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Expect mic adapters to be released with a 3.5mm jack. That's how sony ericsson did it..
You can get quality for cheap, if you know where to look...
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Explain convenient.. What exactly is so convenient for them over normal headphones, which deliver better quality sound for cheaper? There are some people who do get benefits by using them (at work), where they need to free their hands and cant really have cables swinging around, such as computer technicians, but most people seem to use them whilst they are simply walking around..
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You answered your own question. In MY case, is convenient and a personal thing. I absolute HATE cables of all sorts. I have a wireless headset in my PC, wireless KB and mouse and use a wireless printer. I also use a wireless home theater at home (ok, not 100% wireless but it's 2 cables less...)
Everything that I can do to have wireless I do because it's convenient. It's more organized and as I said before, a personal choice.
I agree that wired headphones AT THE MOMENT offer better sound quality for the price, but since I'm not an audiophile, I'm more then happy with what I have now.
The convenience is the easy to setup, the easy access and safety. As some people pointed before, it's very common for the wires to entangle somewhere in your clothes or other things and you risk damaging both your hedphones breaking the cable or even pulling away your phone and losing/breaking it.
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You answered your own question. In MY case, is convenient and a personal thing. I absolute HATE cables of all sorts. I have a wireless headset in my PC, wireless KB and mouse and use a wireless printer. I also use a wireless home theater at home (ok, not 100% wireless but it's 2 cables less...)
I agree that wired headphones AT THE MOMENT offer better sound quality for the price, but since I'm not an audiophile, I'm more then happy with what I have now.
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the only cable i have in my Wireless Home theater is the long arse 1080p HDMI cable going from the PC Receiver to the projector
if and when they come out with a good wireless 1080p HDMI i'll definitely have everything wireless.
for audiophile or not, i'll recommend the Sony DRBT50
as an extension of what i already listed before, for sports fan the Samsung SBH500 is better suited for the task
those 2 are excellent alternative if you can't find the Motorola HT820
the Sony DRBT50 has better bass/base than the moto ht820
there is one that is 100% audiophile but it lacks the handsfree profile for phone calls
it's the Sennheiser PX210BT, that one is guaranteed to sound like the regular wired Sennheiser headphones
I wish I could use my BT headphones. So far I've tried S9-HD, HBH-IS800 and Nokia BH-504 and all of them have horrible sound quality with SGS.
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I wish I could use my BT headphones. So far I've tried S9-HD, HBH-IS800 and Nokia BH-504 and all of them have horrible sound quality with SGS.
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I have the hbh ds 205 and it sounds awesome.
I decided to get a new version of it and purchased the sony mw600 and it sounds awesome. Especially now that froyo was released we could use the 5.1 sound enhancement with our bluetooth devices.
One reason why I don't use my bluey headset is the damn thing blinks a blue led all the time . Its like a signal for everyone to look at me. I've taken a marker and coloured it black a few times. Another reason is I tend to forget to recharge the thing as it only has about 12hours play time.
I have a DS980 an MW600 both from Sony Ericsson. I seldom use them now.
I'm not that satisfied with the sound quality of the DS980 & the earphone cannot be replaced.
For the MW600 the short earphone that came with the device also does not sound great, so when I use my personal earphone the sound is great buy the cable will be very long...
I just have been through myself a headphone buying hassle, and had to send back 2 BT sets to refund due poor music quality. The first was Jabra Halo for around £60. It looks cool, and the most comfortable headset I've ever used, but the sound quality is just not there. It's clear, okay, but it's also quiet, and has absulutely no noticable bass.
Ordered a Nokia BH 504, which is a £10 cheaper, but sound quality is almost the same. Still quiet(not usable in traffic), still no bass, maybe a bit more clarity compare to Jabra. Sent back for refund as well.
Next one was the previously mentioned Motorola HT820(got the geniune one), it cost way less then it's friends(£25), and has much better sound! Maybe it's not as clear as the rest, but definetely has better bass, and louder as well. Through Pc it's somehow still not the best! The range is fine(just like others), the battery life is incredible(got it for 2 weeks, use it every day, but haven't charged yet). The mic is also good via phone, tho i had problems via pc skype, and msn call. It's not as comfortable as the previously mentioned ones, you can't really lay down with this thing on your head, and also after 30 min use, it cuts the top of my ears(big ears maybe?). Still not the best quality I've ever had, but definetely worth £25!
Hi, I'm lookin for cheaper Pioneer over ear headphones. If someone has good experience with any, please care to share. Thanks in advance!
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Pioneer... i had one but once i bought a sennheiser i totally forgot i had a pioneer... seriously pioneer probably will be okay for car audio but for earphones or headphones go for sennheiser or beats audio...
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Pioneer... i had one but once i bought a sennheiser i totally remembered i had a pioneer... seriously pioneer probably will be okay for car audio but for earphones or headphones go for sennheiser or beats audio...
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Yes, today tested many sennheisers, they are not expensive and the sound is great. Just have to decide which one I will buy.
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nowdays there are a lot of option of sennheiser.... i have one sennheiser earphone and one sennheiser headphone.... the earphone is cx300 and the headphone is hd215... i personally dont recommend you the hd215 because the treble is louder than the bass and it is actually ideal for dj's or for watching movies with lots of conversation when you really want to listen to the treble sound... My cx300 on the other hand is superbly ideal for mp3 and any form of music... unfortunately it is not an over ear headphone,it is an in ear headphone.... just make sure when u r buying your headphone u know what u r using it for and ask the sellers what is ideal for... If you want to listen music on your sensation then just go with any sennheiser headphone that has super bass, power bass or bass on its packaging...
Thank you for helping me. After reading this review:
As a semi-pro acid-trance/techno and drum & bass DJ and promotor for 20 years, and a total Audiophile, I wasn't expecting too much from these, coz as a rule you do get what you pay for. But sometimes rules are meant to be broken, and these babies SMASH the rule book to bits! They have the same tech specs as Dr Dre's Beats and the shape, size and comfort of the seminal HD 25's by Sennheiser. Having owned a pair of the latter, at £130, I wasn't expecting the HAS4X's to lay at the HD25's feet, let alone stand up to their shoulders! So, in laymans terms, what does all this mean in terms of sound? Alow me to help:
Low-end/Bass: The bass is strong, powerfull and amazingly tight, controlled and damn LOW, with a fast, punchey attack you just would never expect under £100! Add this to the fact that the bass NEVER becomes overpowering or gets in the way of the other frequencies, and the low, and even sub-bass low-end is catered for dynamicaly. Very impressive.
Low-Mid/Mid Range: This is the area that is the hardest for any headphones and speakers to reproduce without making it too weak, which makes it sound hollow, or too strong, which sounds too harsh, bright and down right awefull. These HAS4X's reproduce Mid frequencies with aplomb! Acid sounds are notoriously unforgiving, as they use all frequencies, from bass to treble, but mainly hang in the mid range, so if the mid is off in any way, you just won't get the spikey texture right, and I have to say that my Neurofunk d'n'b collection sounds fantastic through these babies! Guitars are handled with the same fidelity and controll, and again , my metal collection sounds awesome. I'm hearing instruments I never knew were in the song! There's Plenty of body to the sound, while incredibly managing to retain a good amount of transparency! Again, unheard of for under £100!
Treble/High end: The biggest mistake people make when reviewing ear/headphones, is not alowing them to 'run-in' for 24 hours. An engine won't run to it's best ability untill it's warmed up, and the same rule aplies to ALL music equipment! When you first listen to these, you may feel cheated, as although there is treble, it's not the over-bright, 'splashy' treble most people are used too with sub £100 'phones. WAIT!! Keep using them and you will start to realise that actualy, these have fantastic treble controll! They manage to reproduce the exact high end frequencies without adding any artifitial hiss, or splash. What I was Most impressed by was how capable these are at handling 'transients', like cymbal crashes, snare rim-shots and hi-hats etc. transients are the short, sharp, sudden and crisp treble sounds that normally get completely lost in the mix and even when they are present, they tend to sound splashy and loose. The HAS4x's handle transients astoundingly well! cymbals, rim-shots, snare drums and even triangles and tamborines can be heard CLEARLY in busy tracks, without being overpowering, and are sharp, controlled and have good attack.
What else can I add? The stereo soundstage is nigh-on perfect with an almost seamless blend throughout the frequencies, and even though these are not 'bright' sounding, don't mistake that for sounding muffled, as they are very open and airy. I really can't fault these headphones, as they sound as good as most in the £100-£150 bracket. they are also SOLIDLY built, with a rugid feel and thick, shielded OFC cable that has nice thick rubber protection at all joints and terminals, as well as a gold jack plug for a quality connection to your Mp3 player, stereo amp etc. And they are really comfortable (and I've got a large size head!). I was even able to jump about and dance without them even moving, let alone falling off. I love these, and am SOOOoo glad I got them. I hope you are too, as they are destined to be a much talked about contender, and in my opinion, VICTOR, to Dr Dre's Beats! They look kick ass too, which is always a bonus. 10/10 from me :-D Hope this has helped. Going back to listen to my zen now through my lovely new HAS4X's to enjoy more quality sounds again ;-) 'Thagoatboy' B. Waters
I bought :JVC HAS4X Xtreme Xplosives On Ear Headphone. I have Sony BT reciever with 3,5 mm output and my plan is to use them together. I will write feedback, maybe next week.
Hello.
I paid attention to where it says "no noobs please" in the hacking section and opted to respect that request.
If at any point you find yourself saying "don't do that. do this." in regards to this thread then note: I know what I want. Either it can be done or it can't. Don't try and point me in some other direction.
That said, here's my issue:
I ride a motorcycle. I bought a bluetooth intercom/interface which fits nicely on the exterior of my helmet for control/safety. The headphones absolutely SUCK, which is why I'm here.
I bought a $100 pair of really nice earbuds + mic. The problem is that their controls are UNDER my helmet and that simply won't do.
What I WANT to do is control my phone with my exterior BT module but listen through my nice new earbuds.
Because both of these bt items are of an audio nature, only one can be connected. So, here I am ... wondering if theirs a solution that isn't a punch line.
I'm willing to hack into the product firmware if someone will openly guide me through the process.
Would that, could that even work?
Fingers crossed.
To clarify,
you have your mobil, which supplies the audio source, i.e. call or music?
you have your nice headphones + mic, which is itself a bluetooth device too
you have your old bluetooth device whose controls you want to use, but not the headphones it supplies?
Yes!
You nailed it.
That is precisely what I want to do.
Well its not impossible, but very unfeasible.
I'm no bluetooth expert, but when playing through some scenarios in my head it would be way to much effort.
I think taking the hardware approach and doing something like soldering the good earphones onto the headpiece with the bluetooth controls, will yield faster and cheaper results.
Ya i pointed you in another direction .
But the software approach just doesn't work very well, especially as the firmware on both bluetooth devices is most likely closed source, additionaly they might need hardware changes too, to be even modifyable software wise.
@RobinDean
The quickest and easiest way is the swap out the bad sounding speaker unit and replace with something better. Buy some ebay or whatever, not expensive .
While remembering Bluetooth transmission via SBC codec has few different bitrate of transmission, low is bad and high is relatively acceptable, plus internal DSP etc etc etc, hence you may be lucky they are using high bitrate and stereo.
Your post more than 2 years ago, probably you moved on, got better products and skip all this entirely.
I'm a new HOX owner currently on CleanRom 4.5. Coming from an older T-mobile G2x which has a wolfson DAC and Voodoo Sound support which can increase the headphone jack's amp output, I wonder if there's something similar for the HOX. I'm not interested in the EQ type of apps like the beats or any resampling because all my music are already in high quality/lossless formats. I just want the amp output to be higher.
I did do some searches but could not seem to find what I need. Any directions would be appreciated.
You have a couple of options. Most people will recommend you power amp just because they truly don't understand and appreciate music. But if you're not one of those then go with neutron. I personally think it's the best player. I've tried and own almost every player on the market and neutron blows them out of the water.
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You have a couple of options. Most people will recommend you power amp just because they truly don't understand and appreciate music. But if you're not one of those then go with neutron. I personally think it's the best player. I've tried and own almost every player on the market and neutron blows them out of the water.
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Thanks. Can it increase the amp level on the hardware/driver level?
I thought I was the only one who came from the G2x! I definitely miss voodoo and all the amplifiers. I'm gonna try the neutron player as well.
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I thought I was the only one who came from the G2x! I definitely miss voodoo and all the amplifiers. I'm gonna try the neutron player as well.
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Yeah out of my three phones, Iphone 4, G2X and ATT HOX, the G2X is the only phone that can drive my car's AUX with enough power even without Voodoo. With Voodoo the quality is simply amazing as if it's connected to an external AMP, but without any hissing at all.
The HOX sounds very good with my IEM's, but the output just isn't high enough to drive my car stereo. Too much noise.
To my understanding, the snapdragon HOX uses a proprietary audio chip (considered to be pretty good by most) and no open driver is available for it. So the output etc cannot be tweaked even if the chip itself has the capability for higher output. It'd be appreciated if someone with the knowledge can clarify this.
What audio formats does the galaxy S8+ supports? I’m not talking about Audio Playback Format. I’m asking about Quality for instant is High-Resolution Audio same as PCM or DSD: DSD 64 / 128 can someone point or explain what all this means ?
Also I just found out about the Sony has a high res player is out on the market only a few days ago..
How does the galaxy S8+ compete with Sony high res audio player? Please see link Sony high res audio player
Other thing what would be the best headphones, or over the ear phones to experience the best audio quality on the S8+ ? At the moment I’m using Bose QC35 They are a decent pair of over the ear headphones, but of course not the best.
They do have a pretty awesome sound signature, but I’m sure there must be better out there, Sony Bluetooth headphones just released how much would I benefit using these with the S8+ As I have checked the Samsung website they don’t really tell you much on the specs link for Sony WH-1000XM2 Thanks peeps
Mods, i hope this isn’t in the wrong section. Thanks
I use Audio-Technica ATH-R70X, They sound great with lossless content, and the output jack on the phone supplies plenty of power to push them. With an external amp you may have better results, but I cant tell. I cant imagine that the S8+ wouldn't playback high quality audio, as long as your source material is high quality. As for the specs, not a clue... sorry!
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What audio formats does the galaxy S8+ supports? I’m not talking about Audio Playback Format. I’m asking about Quality for instant is High-Resolution Audio same as PCM or DSD: DSD 64 / 128 can someone point or explain what all this means ?
Also I just found out about the Sony has a high res player is out on the market only a few days ago..
How does the galaxy S8+ compete with Sony high res audio player? Please see link Sony high res audio player
Other thing what would be the best headphones, or over the ear phones to experience the best audio quality on the S8+ ? At the moment I’m using Bose QC35 They are a decent pair of over the ear headphones, but of course not the best.
They do have a pretty awesome sound signature, but I’m sure there must be better out there, Sony Bluetooth headphones just released how much would I benefit using these with the S8+ As I have checked the Samsung website they don’t really tell you much on the specs link for Sony WH-1000XM2 Thanks peeps
Mods, i hope this isn’t in the wrong section. Thanks
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Some facts that might help with your decision:
* The part of your body that actually pics up sound is tuned to convert sound waves from 20Hz-20,000Hz (cycles per second) to electrical signals your brain can process.
* Digital music is converted from analog by chopping up the signal in Time and Amplitude (Sample Rate and Bit Depth). CD's and most other digital music Sample the Analog waveform 44,100 times a second and have 65534 (16-bit signed) possible amplitude levels per sample.
* You can lossless convert the 16-bit 44.1KHz signal back to a analog waveform that has a SNR of 98dB and a frequency range of 0-22,050Hz.
* It is very unlikely you are able to hear past 18KHz by the time you're in your 30's
* Passing Ultrasonic's into a driver (speaker) can at best not provide any advantage other than wasted amplifier power and at worst degrade the parts of the audible spectrum.
* High quality compressed music (AAC, OPUS, MP3, DD, DTS, Etc.) is in-distinguishable from the original digitized source because of the way our auditory system works (Psychoacoustics). - While I'd love to get into reasons why it is past my current knowledge level. But you can start here if you want to dive in deeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
"High-Res" audio is marketing.
The Galaxy S8's DAC+AMP is average, but as long as you're not driving a pair of high impedance headphones or have the volume cranked to the max it should be fine. - https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/7e2439/12
As for headphones no one can tell you what you will like, but I've been regularly impressed by The Wirecutter's recommendations on speakers and headphones. They do measurements and also have a group of people listen to each model, so you're not getting a single persons opinion - http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
Make sure to scroll down; what looks like ad's (because they have prices at the bottom) are actually articles with recommended headphones and also alternatives.
You really can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without a version of Viper4android.
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Some facts that might help with your decision:
* The part of your body that actually pics up sound is tuned to convert sound waves from 20Hz-20,000Hz (cycles per second) to electrical signals your brain can process.
* Digital music is converted from analog by chopping up the signal in Time and Amplitude (Sample Rate and Bit Depth). CD's and most other digital music Sample the Analog waveform 44,100 times a second and have 65534 (16-bit signed) possible amplitude levels per sample.
* You can lossless convert the 16-bit 44.1KHz signal back to a analog waveform that has a SNR of 98dB and a frequency range of 0-22,050Hz.
* It is very unlikely you are able to hear past 18KHz by the time you're in your 30's
* Passing Ultrasonic's into a driver (speaker) can at best not provide any advantage other than wasted amplifier power and at worst degrade the parts of the audible spectrum.
* High quality compressed music (AAC, OPUS, MP3, DD, DTS, Etc.) is in-distinguishable from the original digitized source because of the way our auditory system works (Psychoacoustics). - While I'd love to get into reasons why it is past my current knowledge level. But you can start here if you want to dive in deeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
"High-Res" audio is marketing.
The Galaxy S8's DAC+AMP is average, but as long as you're not driving a pair of high impedance headphones or have the volume cranked to the max it should be fine. - https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/7e2439/12
As for headphones no one can tell you what you will like, but I've been regularly impressed by The Wirecutter's recommendations on speakers and headphones. They do measurements and also have a group of people listen to each model, so you're not getting a single persons opinion - http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
Make sure to scroll down; what looks like ad's (because they have prices at the bottom) are actually articles with recommended headphones and also alternatives.
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I've compared a lot in the $100-$400 range and the ones that came out on top for me were:
1. Meze 99 CLASSICS My fav https://www.mezeaudio.com/collections/all/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-silver-wood-headphones
2. ATH-MSR7
3.ATH-M50x
vibrantliker said:
I've compared a lot in the $100-$400 range and the ones that came out on top for me were:
1. Meze 99 CLASSICS My fav https://www.mezeaudio.com/collections/all/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-silver-wood-headphones
2. ATH-MSR7
3.ATH-M50x
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Going by the frequency response graphs:
Meze 99 Classics - They will sound warm (especially female vocals), average sound stage, while still having a crisp high end.
ATH-MSR7 - Not as warm, larger sound stage, high end will have more sparkle and the "I can feel it" part of bass will be more pronounced.
From personal experience:
ATH-M50x - Meh. They can sound great if calibrated, but I never cared for them otherwise.
For best quality, use a lossless formats such as WAV or FLAC but check first that they are not upsampled mp3s. If you want to save space and use mp3 format, look for a bitrate of 256kbps+ (ideally 320kbps)
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You really can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without a version of Viper4android.
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True but its not worth rooting yet the S8+ just for V4A!
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True but its not worth rooting yet the S8+ just for V4A!
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Why not?
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Why not?
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Here see this thread why I choose not to root https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/root-root-t3625793
You can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without actual stereo equipment high end speakers, Highs, Mids, Full range, and a bottom firing sub, biamped, triamped, and a center spaced sub, and then every speaker has to be tuned to your specific space in a deadened room. So if that is the kind of audiophile sound you want from your phone its just not going to happen. This phone sounds better than any other that I have ever owned or heard. Viper audio is crap, its just a front end for ALSA to make use of very limited power to make the tiny speakers in ear buds or over the ear anything go BOOM just a bit more. Don't waste your money on stupid high end headphones the biggest difference between most of them is the amount of stuffing they put in them to keep them from rattling, and please never ever spend more than 20 bucks for ear buds. I have a set of $18 dollar ear buds that I bought at a flying-J truck stop that sound and preform just as well as my $300 dollar Bose Bluetooth ear buds...I paid $280 for a name. (not knocking Bose I love their home audio stuff, but they got me with the ear buds) Lossless files are the way to go for sure, and if you were to use this phone as the music provider for a stereo system, the sound you would want coming out of it (because you are using it as a preamp) would be dead flat..... The Same thing goes for your car or home stereo using the Bluetooth or a direct line out of the phone into a stereo system....the sound coming out of the phone should be flat or you are EQ'ing an EQ and you are defeating the purpose of the equalizer in the stereo, you are essentially feeding the stereo digital noise, (just try it, trust me) (you wont be sorry). Let the stereo do the work let the phone be the high end preamp and it shouldn't be turned up more than half way. Oh and just so you know in not some wind bag ,, I'm giving you practical, useful, WORKING, knowledge. I have been a working Professional Musician for over 30 years. In and out of studios recording,,,,,AND many many many hundreds of shows and sound issues that have been dealt with. So take it for what its worth... and now i'm going to go loose myself with some with some Pink Floyd and Mozart..............Peace..
malebornin69 said:
You can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without actual stereo equipment high end speakers, Highs, Mids, Full range, and a bottom firing sub, biamped, triamped, and a center spaced sub, and then every speaker has to be tuned to your specific space in a deadened room. So if that is the kind of audiophile sound you want from your phone its just not going to happen. This phone sounds better than any other that I have ever owned or heard. Viper audio is crap, its just a front end for ALSA to make use of very limited power to make the tiny speakers in ear buds or over the ear anything go BOOM just a bit more. Don't waste your money on stupid high end headphones the biggest difference between most of them is the amount of stuffing they put in them to keep them from rattling, and please never ever spend more than 20 bucks for ear buds. I have a set of $18 dollar ear buds that I bought at a flying-J truck stop that sound and preform just as well as my $300 dollar Bose Bluetooth ear buds...I paid $280 for a name. (not knocking Bose I love their home audio stuff, but they got me with the ear buds) Lossless files are the way to go for sure, and if you were to use this phone as the music provider for a stereo system, the sound you would want coming out of it (because you are using it as a preamp) would be dead flat..... The Same thing goes for your car or home stereo using the Bluetooth or a direct line out of the phone into a stereo system....the sound coming out of the phone should be flat or you are EQ'ing an EQ and you are defeating the purpose of the equalizer in the stereo, you are essentially feeding the stereo digital noise, (just try it, trust me) (you wont be sorry). Let the stereo do the work let the phone be the high end preamp and it shouldn't be turned up more than half way. Oh and just so you know in not some wind bag ,, I'm giving you practical useful, knowledge.
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What do you recommended that has best audio quality for mobile use? I mean, I use the LG V20 with Viper4Arise with good headphones and it blows me away how good it sounds.
vibrantliker said:
What do you recommended that has best audio quality for mobile use? I mean, I use the LG V20 with Viper4Arise with good headphones and it blows me away how good it sounds.
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Exactly what you are doing if that is what sounds good to you.... I would ask you to do one thing and see how it sounds... if you are going to use Viper then just use Viper.... Flatten out every other EQ that you would be sending the EQ'd sound from your phone to... then just use the viper eq until you have the sound you are looking for.
As far as headphones/earbuds are concerned. I have a free standing hat rack full of them.. I use them according to the music I am listening to, But if you want my honest opinion ( and i know someone will call me stupid, not that I care,) I use a pair of Beats, over ear, with noise canceling, wired, as my go to headphones,,,, and the stock earbuds that came with my S8+ .... They are made by AKG.... You can get stupid and spend a lot of money (like thousands) trying to get better sound from a substandard tinny tiny under powered sound card,,, and never find the right equipment to get the job done... and never realize its not the equipment you are buying but the equipment you are using,, inst getting the job done
I had Lg g6 and it has better Audio than the S8 + ,definitely.
I just can't believe any professional can suggest Bose, Beats or phone stock AKG. Did you ever try them? For studio purpose you are using monitors... maybe this is why...
Try something what make sense- don't be like sheep- buying beats or bose just for brand and color? Get proper AKG, Beyerdynamic are not massively expensive or Sennheiser ie80. I would not recommend headphones over £300 because you not gonna notice any difference. EQ or any funny software- I prefer flat sound but everyone is individual...
+1 to this. With all due respect but no real professional would say that an $18 pair of buds would produce the same sound quality like a +$300 pair of westone or senheiser or any other prestigious brand in ear monitors. This post was addressed to audiophiles and obviously OP you should expect answers from real ones.
prfraczek said:
I just can't believe any professional can suggest Bose, Beats or phone stock AKG. Did you ever try them? For studio purpose you are using monitors... maybe this is why...
Try something what make sense- don't be like sheep- buying beats or bose just for brand and color? Get proper AKG, Beyerdynamic are not massively expensive or Sennheiser ie80. I would not recommend headphones over £300 because you not gonna notice any difference. EQ or any funny software- I prefer flat sound but everyone is individual...
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Samsung's S8 phone connected with the LDAC codec with Sony's WH-1000XM2 headphone is a combination made in heaven! There is presently no other wireless pair that comes close to this combination. The key is the LDAC bluetooth codec.