Okay, so my Droid X has been rooted for about a month now and I've been going happy-go-lucky with deleting bloatware off of my device. Thusfar I believe I've uninstalled the following: Amazon MP3 player, City ID, Kindle, News, News and Weather, Weather, Terminal Emulator, My Verizon Mobile, Skype, VZ Navigator, and Visual Voicemail. My first two issues relate to this.
#1- I went to Titanium Backup the other day I noticed as I was scrolling up and down the list that contactsunconnected.apk was frozen. I only have the free version of Titanium Backup so I don't even have the capability to freeze apps, so this baffled me. Anyway, when I noticed it I unfroze it and went along my merry way. When I restarted my phone afterward I noticed it was frozen again. I found out that it re-freezes it every time that I restart the phone. So...what the heck does that file even do? And is it okay to leave it frozen? Or should I unfreeze it ever time?
#2- AFTER I'd uninstalled all these apps I happened to be browsing some forums and I was reading that it wasn't a good idea to uninstall these apps, but rather..."freeze" or "rename" the apps so they wouldn't run, but they would still be accessible later on. I read the reason for them needing to be accessible is that if you wanna receive an update (like Gingerbread) in the future you still have to have ALL the bloatware that came stock with the phone. How difficult is it to get this bloatware back? Does anyone have a link to these files?
#3- This is slightly unrelated to the other two issues, but how do you guys feel about the stock Droid X file manager vs Astro File manager? I refuse to be redundant and have two apps that are so similar, but I've noticed that each one has some different strengths that the other doesn't. I really wanna get rid of one, but I'm not sure which one yet. Any suggestions?
#4- The only custom ROM I've tried on my phone was Fission and I was very unhappy. I mean, the ROM looked cool and ran smoothly, but not all my apps carried over. I want a ROM that carries over 100% of my apps. Any suggestions?
#5- How do I go about overclocking my device? And what is the max that I can SAFELY overclock my device at?
Anyway, if you guys can help me with any of these 5 issues that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
mj23kb08 said:
Okay, so my Droid X has been rooted for about a month now and I've been going happy-go-lucky with deleting bloatware off of my device. Thusfar I believe I've uninstalled the following: Amazon MP3 player, City ID, Kindle, News, News and Weather, Weather, Terminal Emulator, My Verizon Mobile, Skype, VZ Navigator, and Visual Voicemail. My first two issues relate to this.
#3- This is slightly unrelated to the other two issues, but how do you guys feel about the stock Droid X file manager vs Astro File manager? I refuse to be redundant and have two apps that are so similar, but I've noticed that each one has some different strengths that the other doesn't. I really wanna get rid of one, but I'm not sure which one yet. Any suggestions?
#4- The only custom ROM I've tried on my phone was Fission and I was very unhappy. I mean, the ROM looked cool and ran smoothly, but not all my apps carried over. I want a ROM that carries over 100% of my apps. Any suggestions?
#5- How do I go about overclocking my device? And what is the max that I can SAFELY overclock my device at?
Anyway, if you guys can help me with any of these 5 issues that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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3. I used to use astro, but once I got my droid 2 and titanium backup, there didn't seem much of a point to having astro any more.
4. What are 'your apps'? What do you mean by 'carries over'? If they came with the x, then they might rely on blur. If you downloaded them from the market, then they should work fine in fission. Either way, no custom rom will have everything you want, and moto roms will have more than you want.
5. There's a thread all about this in the droid x forums.
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#1 and #2- Do you have any info about these issues?
#3- I see your point. With the built in file manager and Titanium I suppose Astro is useless.
#4- I understand that some of the motorola stuff won't carry over, but some things that I installed from the market didn't carry over. Clockwork Mod was one of those and I had to redownload it just to be able to flash back to stock. Also, some of the other stock apps like Gmail, Email, and Messaging that I DO like didn't carry over. It was frustrating.
#5- Can you give me a link to this?
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mj23kb08 said:
#1 and #2- Do you have any info about these issues?
#3- I see your point. With the built in file manager and Titanium I suppose Astro is useless.
#4- I understand that some of the motorola stuff won't carry over, but some things that I installed from the market didn't carry over. Clockwork Mod was one of those and I had to redownload it just to be able to flash back to stock. Also, some of the other stock apps like Gmail, Email, and Messaging that I DO like didn't carry over. It was frustrating.
#5- Can you give me a link to this?
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Not sure about number one at all, I never use that function in titanium.
Likewise, for number two, I'm always running a custom rom, so I never have to worry about that.
5 - followed a link from the d2 forum to the original work done for droid x:
http://androidforums.com/droid-x-all-things-root/201920-droid-x-2-2-overclock-kernel-module-w-instructions.html
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With the excitement taking place in the Official Huawei Ascend thread regarding the successful nandroid backup process. I felt it might be a good idea to start a thread regarding what apps/bloatware can be SAFELY removed from both the Cricket version and Metro PCS. Which should start us on the path of custom roms/themes, better performance etc. I think this phone is going to be way more capable than what we thought, at least I hope that turns out to be the case.
This way the "Official" thread can stay on topic with the progress of nandroid, clockwork, and Amon-ra procedures. I am willing to make edits to my original post to reflect the removals that can safely be done for each phone.
Tools Needed:
To root this phone I used Z4Root which can be found here:
Z4Root Link
Another method is Unrevoked but I did not try it, not sure why you would need to with this phone since Z4Root worked fine for me at least but here is link to get you there:
Unrevoked Link
A backup tool that is free in the market is Titanium Backup. I highly suggest using this as Wharmaster said it can "Freeze" the apps, essentially disabling the bloatware apps, but not removing them entirely so in the event something goes wrong you can just "defrost" them and put them back. As an original Droid user, I have been using Titanium Backup for a very long time, and this tool is highly valuable, as when you do a backup it not only backs up the app, but the data associated with it as well. Comes in handy when you restore Angry Birds and don't like the thought of loosing all your progress, not that Angry Birds plays well on the Ascend unfortunately, but as a Droid user I was very happy about having my data restored along with the application.
I know some of this may sound redundant to you seasoned veteran Android users, but some people coming here for the first time are entry level Android users and have picked up this economical Huawei Ascend phone. Knowing things like this is important until we get a final working nandroid backup process via Clockwork (Rom Manager) or Amon-Ra. So until we get a custom Rom that can hopefully be customized for the Huawei Ascend and a kernel that we can use to overclock it, anything we do to help speed up this little phone will make your experience that much better.
Wharmaster has also suggested a browser alternative in Miren, I have never used Miren myself but I am going to check it out and see if my son likes it.
Another browser I would suggest is Dophin Mini HD, it is free and has a smaller footprint than the full blown Dolphin HD browser, it seemed pretty snappy on the Ascend for the amount of time I tried it.
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Bowling
Uno
***Download another launcher to replace Canvas launcher, I put Launcherpro (can be found in Market, there is a free version) on my sons phone, once new launcher was put on I did the following "Freezes" with Titanium Backup rather than uninstall. Thanks to Wharmaster for the tip***
Documents to go
Mobile Web 3
Mybackup
Poynt
Storefront
Swype
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my extras
uno
virtual card
mobile banking
boingo wifi
moco space
free games
easy wifi
pocket express
Also bigjoe25ss posted the following, so if you dont use them I guess it is safe to remove them. In his case he uses the following programs so he kept them:
bigjoe25ss said:
you can also remove mail at metro and metro nav and metro back up but i use those so i left them
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A special Thank You to those who have worked long and hard thus far on the Ascend! As a OG Droid owner, I am hoping to give my son a better experience on his phone.
Bowling and Uno can safely be removed from a Cricket phone.
If you replace Canvas with another launcher than it's safe to remove
Photobucket
Documents to go
Mobile Web 3
Mybackup
Poynt
Storefront
Swype(although i like swype)
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I suggest using Titanium Backup to freeze the apps you don't need or want....very easy to simply defrost them if something goes haywire.
Launcherpro makes a great replacement for canvas, IMO. Very fast, and smooth.
Might want to check out the gingerbread keyboard that has been ported over to 2.1 ....you can find it on this forum.
And so far the fastest browser that I have found is Miren....might want to turn marquee mode off in the options though.
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Wharmaster said:
I suggest using Titanium Backup to freeze the apps you don't need or want....very easy to simply defrost them if something goes haywire.
Launcherpro makes a great replacement for canvas, IMO. Very fast, and smooth.
Might want to check out the gingerbread keyboard that has been ported over to 2.1 ....you can find it on this forum.
And so far the fastest browser that I have found is Miren....might want to turn marquee mode off in the options though.
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Thanks for the tip Wharmaster, I actually did this last night before I read your post. I was too afraid of removing something that might break the Ascend and then I wouldn't have a way to put it back.
I really hope those guys working on this phone dont give up and we get something really cool in the weeks to come!
If anyone else has any suggestions please feel free to drop a line here. There are quite a few Huawei Ascend users, and at the price point this phone is at I can only think the number of users is going to grow.
I know my kid likes his phone.
Personally his phone frustrates me, and I can't wait for something custom to make it a bit faster.
If any Metro users could post their bloatware or metro specific stuff that would be much appreciated.
The more info we have the better. It might help the devs with streamlining the ROM.
i have safley removed these from my metro ascend
Documents to go
my extras
uno
virtual card
mobile banking
boingo wifi
moco space
free games
easy wifi
pocket express
you can also remove mail at metro and metro nav and metro back up but i use those so i left them
Actually unlike I first stated it is not safe to remove poynt for Cricket, if you do so you'll loose your data connection... Sorry about that!
I removed it and i don't have any data problems i know of.
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selfinflicted1 said:
I removed it and i don't have any data problems i know of.
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Yeah i deleted also and I've been playing Xbox live for hours, from Barnacle.
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I froze poynt on my sons Huawei and he has had no issues so far.
I wonder what this means?
Umm....I removed poynt weeks ago with no issues.
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joenathane said:
If you replace Canvas with another launcher than it's safe to remove
Photobucket
Documents to go
Mobile Web 3
Mybackup
Poynt
Storefront
Swype(although i like swype)
For Cricket Phones
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Can you please tell me how to remove the canvas?
jadden said:
Can you please tell me how to remove the canvas?
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Make nandroid back up then:
1.First make sure you have another launcher program
2.Make sure canvas is NOT the default
3.Use titanium back up to freeze or uninstall the canvas app.
4. Enjoy
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papawiskas said:
I froze poynt on my sons Huawei and he has had no issues so far.
I wonder what this means?
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Strange, I froze poynt and my data connection went away, reset the phone still gone, unfronze poynt and it came back immediately...
But what else have you uninstalled or froze? You might want to restore them all and freeze just poynt...then test. Then unfreeze poynt and repeat that sequence with each app.
I would be interested to know those results.
As I have had no data issues.
I removed Poynt with Root Explorer and have had no issues since. It's been about 2 weeks ago.
Are you sure it wasnt gtalk? I know that one causes problems if you remove iy
AAARG! Deleted canvas now what?
Ok so i didnt pay for the freezing and defrost option. So i deleted canvas so I could use a better browser. NOW MY PHONE WONT GET PAST THE CRICKET SCREEN TO FIX. Any suggestions anyone? I did back it up btw before i did anything....
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Ok so i didnt pay for the freezing and defrost option. So i deleted canvas so I could use a better browser. NOW MY PHONE WONT GET PAST THE CRICKET SCREEN TO FIX. Any suggestions anyone? I did back it up btw before i did anything....
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Did you install Launcher Pro before deleting Canvas?
Hi guys,
I rooted my phone and have been using Cyanogen since and never looked back. The phone works like charm, and with 2.2.1 installed, they keyboard is much better and I can actually use the phone for dialing (the number pad doesn't get stuck!)
I looked in the form but my search brings back hundreds of results that do not seem related to what I need. Cyan comes with some apps I simply do not ever use: The car home one, terminal emulator, DSPMAnager (what is it anyway?) and the voice dialer. First, are any of these apps are needed to run the phone, and can I re-install them separately (without reloading the whole ROM) if something goes wrong? Then, the question is, how do I uninstall them, since I do not have an uninstall option? Is it possible to uninstall Google Talk (because I think it comes as a part of the Google Tools or whatever...), since it does not allow me to log in for more than one account?
Then, I have a more general question:
Is Cyan with gingerbread available from the HTC Hero? Would you guys recommend it? I don't feel I really need it because the phone is fine, but maybe I'm missing out on something I do not know... what are the big new things, besides the keyboard (which I understand can be installed individually anyway).
Thanks!
Use titanium backup it uninstalls stock apps. But be careful which ones u uninstall they will mess ur phone up and cause foreclosures
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Hi guys,
I rooted my phone and have been using Cyanogen since and never looked back. The phone works like charm, and with 2.2.1 installed, they keyboard is much better and I can actually use the phone for dialing (the number pad doesn't get stuck!)
I looked in the form but my search brings back hundreds of results that do not seem related to what I need. Cyan comes with some apps I simply do not ever use: The car home one, terminal emulator, DSPMAnager (what is it anyway?) and the voice dialer. First, are any of these apps are needed to run the phone, and can I re-install them separately (without reloading the whole ROM) if something goes wrong? Then, the question is, how do I uninstall them, since I do not have an uninstall option? Is it possible to uninstall Google Talk (because I think it comes as a part of the Google Tools or whatever...), since it does not allow me to log in for more than one account?
Then, I have a more general question:
Is Cyan with gingerbread available from the HTC Hero? Would you guys recommend it? I don't feel I really need it because the phone is fine, but maybe I'm missing out on something I do not know... what are the big new things, besides the keyboard (which I understand can be installed individually anyway).
Thanks!
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1. Like the above poster said, use titanium backup to uninstall. It's free in the market. All four of those apps can be removed with no ill effects, however, I would keep terminal emulator in case you ever need to push our pull apk's, decide to use the batt-tweak. Stuff like that. DSPManager is a equalizer.
2. Yes, gb is available in cyanogenmod flavor right here: http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=heroc It had some minor lag issues with the home screen, but camera and gps is working for me. Not sure if compcache and jit is, though.
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user7618 said:
1. Like the above poster said, use titanium backup to uninstall. It's free in the market. All four of those apps can be removed with no ill effects, however, I would keep terminal emulator in case you ever need to push our pull apk's, decide to use the batt-tweak. Stuff like that. DSPManager is a equalizer.
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I'd watch out for Google Talk though...doesn't that break some push notifications (i.e. Gmail)? Could be wrong, have been before
Off the top of my head without looking at a fresh install, these are safe to remove without doing anything special (I dont have any of them):
DSP, Protips, PacMan, FileManager, email (if you only use the gmail app), Live Wallpaper Picker, CMStats, CM Wallpaper, Latin tutorial, Development, Theme Chooser (and the other theme apk along with the two themes preloaded in the /system/app folder), Spare Parts, ROM Manager...If you want to know about any others, just ask...there are far more I have removed, but like I said, they are gone, so I don't remember them
how about fotakill? don't know what it does, so I didn't remove it.
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FOTAKILL i believe is the cyanogen updater, do a google search
I removed it with no issues.
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Here's link from Cyanogen wiki that gives a list of apps and some details about them - like what they are, can they be removed and such. Also, it documents ways to remove apps.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones.
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I'd watch out for Google Talk though...doesn't that break some push notifications (i.e. Gmail)? Could be wrong, have been before
Off the top of my head without looking at a fresh install, these are safe to remove without doing anything special (I dont have any of them):
DSP, Protips, PacMan, FileManager, email (if you only use the gmail app), Live Wallpaper Picker, CMStats, CM Wallpaper, Latin tutorial, Development, Theme Chooser (and the other theme apk along with the two themes preloaded in the /system/app folder), Spare Parts, ROM Manager...If you want to know about any others, just ask...there are far more I have removed, but like I said, they are gone, so I don't remember them
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No, I think you may be right. For whatever reason, I was thinking google voice, which isn't even part of the gapps or cm apps. Leave talk installed.
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If you delete Google Voice Search, you will need something else (Vlingo, etc.) in order to have a mic on your keyboard I believe.
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Wow thanks for all the responses guys.. I installed some apps and so far I'm good. Now I just need to figure out how to get my dial pad to show up after it turns off during a phone call.
beholder121 said:
Wow thanks for all the responses guys.. I installed some apps and so far I'm good. Now I just need to figure out how to get my dial pad to show up after it turns off during a phone call.
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Press the menu key.
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Im trading in my phone and need all the tmobile apps back can someone please upload all the tmobile bloatware also the ea games app too! thanks
I'm assuming that you're rooted because you said delete not freeze. It probably would have been wise to do a Titanium Backup of all that Tmo crapware before deleting. That being said, there are stock images floating around in the developer section, and if you have CWM installed, a NANDroid as well.
ya but sadly i dont have a micro sd card! it hasnt come in the mail yet! can you do it just with the phone?
You don't need SD card to backup with titanium use internal 8gb
You could always get them back from the nandroid or stock image in Dev section
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demo23019 said:
You don't need SD card to backup with titanium use internal 8gb
You could always get them back from the nandroid or stock image in Dev section
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How would you go about extracting apps from a .img file?? My bad they are probably .zip right..
G2X
Can't you just download them from T-mobile?
http://android.t-mobile.com/android-apps
You need root to complete this.
- Download the system dump in the Developer section
- Unzip that zip or tar or whatever compressed archive it is
- Connect your phone via USB
- Copy the files you deleted (or all of /system/app/) to your phone's internal SD card
- Use a program such as Root Explorer to copy the files you deleted from your SD card to /system/app/
- If you want to be thorough, set the permissions of those copied files to match those of the existing ones
- Reboot
ALWAYS take a nandroid backup before you make changes.
Here's a zip file that contains all of the bloatware that I removed. Use Titanium Backup to restore these. I haven't tried restoring, but it should work.
It includes:
Wi-Fi Calling (com.android.kineto)
EA Launcher (com.ea.launcher.moregames)
NFS Shift (com.ea.nfsshift)
NOVA (com.gameloft.android.GAND.GloftNOHP)
Polaris (com.infraware.docMaster)
Logmein Rescue (com.logmein.rescue, com.logmein.rescuesecurity)
T-Mobile TV (com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd)
My Account (com.nuance.nmc.sihome)
TegraZone (com.nvidia.tegra)
Swype (com.swype.android.inputmethod)
Telenav (com.telenav.app.android.telenav)
T-Mobile Apppack (com.tmobile.apppack)
T-Mobile Device (com.tmobile.selfhelp)
Zinio (com.zinio.mobile.android)
EDIT: nevermind, my zip file was missing most these files.
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Tmo crapware
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Why do they even add this garbage in?
I doubt anyone would care if the **** is gone, even a T-Mobile store.
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Why do they even add this garbage in?
I doubt anyone would care if the **** is gone, even a T-Mobile store.
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Advertising.......
able to sell phone for a "cheaper" price
This is one of the least bloated phones available, period. In fact, the Nexus S is probably the only phone available new which has less.
Some of this stuff is useful.
Not all of this should be considered bloatware. Some of it can be useful. I actually had T-Mobile My Account installed on my Nexus One from the Market and use it often to check my bill. Two free games I don't consider bloatware. I enjoy NFS Shift and not sure why you consider a free game bloatware. The only apps on here I think is complete bloatware and not useful to some is TeleNav since everyone has a better navigation for free already and T-Mobile App Pack, which is just to buy stuff at ridiculous prices from T-Mobile. Other than that, I will probably keep most of the preinstalled apps and even backup the APKs for later install on CM.
I consider it all bloat, but that's just a personal opinion. If I want it I'll download it myself. Also the fact that it doesn't let you remove the bloat (unless you root) is most irritating, otherwise nobody would really care.
I got rid of all of this, it's all bloat I don't want locked into my phone:
EA Launcher (com.ea.launcher.moregames)
NFS Shift (com.ea.nfsshift)
NOVA (com.gameloft.android.GAND.GloftNOHP)
Polaris (com.infraware.docMaster)
Logmein Rescue (com.logmein.rescue, com.logmein.rescuesecurity)
T-Mobile TV (com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd)
My Account (com.nuance.nmc.sihome)
TegraZone (com.nvidia.tegra)
Swype (com.swype.android.inputmethod)
Telenav (com.telenav.app.android.telenav)
T-Mobile Apppack (com.tmobile.apppack)
T-Mobile Device (com.tmobile.selfhelp)
Zinio (com.zinio.mobile.android)
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I consider it all bloat, but that's just a personal opinion. If I want it I'll download it myself. Also the fact that it doesn't let you remove the bloat (unless you root) is most irritating, otherwise nobody would really care.
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That is true for many of the apps, but they aren't all available on the market. I am all for removing ones you don't want, but I don't think it will matter for the average user. If they don't want them, they just don't open them. I have no problem with T-Mobile including apps they find useful personally. Ideally they would be uninstallable, but then some users would uninstall and not be able to reinstall and get angry. Take a look at a stock Verizon Android phone and you will be impressed with the G2x by comparison.
Stock nandroid works
I just used the stock nandroid from developers section to restore my apps. everything looks good so far.
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I just used the stock nandroid from developers section to restore my apps. everything looks good so far.
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Side note....I did not use nvflash only ROM Manager donate version to install CWM.
c3plok said:
Side note....I did not use nvflash only ROM Manager donate version to install CWM.
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so do nvflash. it's not that hard. really.
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so do nvflash. it's not that hard. really.
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I was a little worried about it because i only have windows 7 64 bit and i read a couple posts that said it was iffy. Even so the guide worked like a charm.
I did read that i would need nvflash for a permanent solution as rom manager is a fakeflash.
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That is true for many of the apps, but they aren't all available on the market. I am all for removing ones you don't want, but I don't think it will matter for the average user. If they don't want them, they just don't open them. I have no problem with T-Mobile including apps they find useful personally. Ideally they would be uninstallable, but then some users would uninstall and not be able to reinstall and get angry. Take a look at a stock Verizon Android phone and you will be impressed with the G2x by comparison.
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For me, I just want to be able to control what I have on my phone. It's irritating that one has to go to such lengths to remove applications that one does not desire, but if T-Mobile had made them uninstallable and re-installable like any other app, this wouldn't be a problem. That being said, Wi-Fi calling is infinitely useful, but I deleted it along with everything else when I was testing possible battery drain fixes. I would have done a TiBu, but I'm learning along the way.
I was wondering if I could get some help developing some things for the pocket edge... Possibly a custom rom, gapps and what not. Any help would be appreciated.
samsung vibrant malice with bullet
Pocket edge ermine
I just ordered 1 of these for $155 shipped. Of course my 1st stop was xda, & am shocked that there is no activity for this [potentially] great device!
Here's hoping that some of the devs will pick up 1 at these new lower prices & start working their magic
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I just ordered 1 of these for $155 shipped. Of course my 1st stop was xda, & am shocked that there is no activity for this [potentially] great device!
Here's hoping that some of the devs will pick up 1 at these new lower prices & start working their magic
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A woot sale is not "new lower prices". That said, I'm in for one, and also looking for the hacking I hope is already going on this!
Checking in too, I got mine yesterday and am very excited about the device.
What I was able to establish quickly is that most 2.2 apps will work out of the box on the Pocket Edge (I made apk backups of my apps on my N1, copied them onto the SD card of the Pocket Edge and voila, I had most of my favorite apps
I would be specifically interested in knowing how to access the e-ink screen programatically. Seems that the current apps focus mostly on the LCD screen.
Did you try sideloading the market? What about amazon market? You didn't order yours off woot and have it arrive so fast, did you?
Sorry, I'm just really curious to see how this thing works out.
Anyone who has one already willing to do a system dump? Is it even possible?
I also Wooted and am waiting on my new toy to arrive.
I just got my PE through a dutch version of woot, I upgraded it to 2.2.1 right away, but there's still plenty to tweak. I have no experience whatsoever with those things, but I'm very willing to learn and help you out, just tell me what to do.
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I just got my PE through a dutch version of woot, I upgraded it to 2.2.1 right away, but there's still plenty to tweak. I have no experience whatsoever with those things, but I'm very willing to learn and help you out, just tell me what to do.
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I am not quite sure what to do. I believe it's an adb pull. I meant to do a little more research but have been really busy with work.
Anyone have more knowledge about this?
They have an open development forum on the entourage website that may have useful information for someone wanting to hack this device (I got one on woot too.)
I can't link outside the site since this is my first post, but it's the Open Edge Community Forum at the very bottom of the forum page.
To save a google or two, it's http://www.entourageedge.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?19-Open-eDGe-Community
I got mine (from Woot!) yesterday. I applied the update. I have signed up for the betas, but not installed the beta OS yet.
I plugged in a USB keyboard and it worked well. I did the same with a mouse, though the X and Y axes seem swapped; maybe it only works with a particular screen orientation. I have a Bluetooth keyboard that I will try next.
The included apps aren't great, but they could be worse. I copied some .apk files from my rooted HTC Aria just to see what would install.
Apps that installed and worked:
1) Titanium Backup (the free one). Doesn't do much since I don't have root.
2) Google Maps - everything but the location-based services seems to work.
3) RealCalc - looks freaky on the huge screen
4) Google Listen - though it's broken because it needs a GMail link
5) SystemPanelLite
Apps that would not install:
1) GMail
2) Winamp (I don't like the eDGe's music player)
Looking forward to getting Market and Gmail working one day!
My WPE (Woot Pocket Edge) came today and is slowly charging up. I see two root methods out there, one on AndroidPolice using ADB and one on mobileread using z4root. Anybody have a favorite or comments?
-- Ed
I'm not very good with adb so I think I'll check z4root. Do you have a link?
I got mine today and have been playing for a couple hours. Updated to Ermine. Installed a few apps from the Amazon app store and also copied over a few from my phone.
Everything worked except for Gmail and Google Reader.
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AlphaDog_NL said:
I just got my PE through a dutch version of woot, I upgraded it to 2.2.1 right away, but there's still plenty to tweak. I have no experience whatsoever with those things, but I'm very willing to learn and help you out, just tell me what to do.
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HOw? I've owned one of these for almost a year now???
I've played a bit with rooting it already with Ermine and installed the CM6.1 version of Gapps HDPI manually, rebooted. I can't seem to get it to let me add an account. I get the horrible "Can't establish a reliable data connection" error and am stuck at that point
I've read lots of posts about people having trouble adding a google account via wifi and am wondering if something needs to be changed to make it work. I had tried a mock location w/ "My Fake Location" with no luck so far.
Just rooted mine. It was super easy. I downloaded the z4root app from the Amazon App Store and clicked Permanent Root. Et voila!
Now to install AdFree Android and Ti Backup. They make Android life so much easier.
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Instructions for Installing G-mail/Calendar
I also got the sucker from Woot. I'm pretty happy with it at the moment. Definitely worth $150!
I'm currently in the process of trying to get gapps to work. At the moment, I have a functional copy of gmail and the calendar, but I'm still having trouble with the market. I'm posting this in the hope that I can help push forward the process and someone more knowledgeable will figure out how to get the market to work.
Anyway, here's the process.
(1) Root your device. You just need to download z4root from the Amazon marketplace and select the "permanent root" option.
(2) Download the Google *.apk files. While you can get these from several places, I took them from the CyanogenMod wiki. Unfortunately, I'm a new user and can't post links. Therefore, you need to (A) Google CyanogenMod Wiki, (B) click on "Latest Version," (C) scroll down to the bottom of the page, (D) download the HDPI files under the CyanogenMod 6 section.
(3) Transfer the *.apk files to your Pocket Edge via USB.
(4) Install the *.apk files with the preloaded ES File Explorer. This part is a little tricky, primarily because the different gapps are intimately related and draw on similar resources. Therefore, you need to install quite a few of them to get gmail/calendar to work. From what I can tell, these are the ones that are absolutely necessary:
Gmail.apk
GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter.apk
GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.apk
GooglePartnerSetup.apk
GoogleServicesFramework.apk
MediaUploader.apk
SetupWizard.apk
Talk.apk
Vending.apk
After I installed all the applications, I still had some trouble initializing my Google account. I would type in my information, but it would take forever and then inform me that I didn't have an internet connection. I discovered that this had been a problem for some previous users with different devices. The workaround was to initialize your account through Google's YouTube app, which you will have to install along with the other *.apk files. I'm curious to see if anybody else has this problem. I'm fairly certain I had these issues because I was messing around with various gmail installations before I arrived at this solution. (Also, I'm wondering if installing "OneTimeInitializer.apk" might also help).
Good luck. I'm fairly confident about eventually getting the Market to work. Also, I'm glad to finally have Launcher Pro and Swiftkey installed instead of the default options.
Thanks for all the useful info!
I tried installing via the CyanogenMod gapps pack like you said and I currently have functioning Gmail, calendar sync, contacts sync, Reader & Maps (though of course you can't really get a location; good for looking up directions anyway). You don't have to install a new calendar app to get your Google calendar to sync. That comes with the calendar sync apk. You might lose the e-ink functionality of the current app if you tried to replace it with the standard Google Calendar app.
Install Gmail last. I had problems with Gmail force closing until I installed it after installing all the other supporting gapps.
I had the same problem logging into my Google account via Gmail, but the YouTube workaround was also successful for me. I got a weird error when I fired up Gmail after logging into my account. It said the account was not set up to sync. I unchecked and then rechecked the various elements in Settings > Accounts & Sync and that fixed my issue.
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I've also rooted the Edge (with Z4root, seems simplest and works fine) and so far I've been stymied at almost every step. I'm noticing about half the apps in Amazon's App store don't install. I also pulled the .apk's for Quadrant and SetCPU, neither of them work however.
I think doing anything past installing some Google apps is going to necessitate a custom ROM, but there's not really any development happening for this thing and I certainly lack the programming skillz needed to do so.
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HOw? I've owned one of these for almost a year now???
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If you're asking how to get Android 2.2.1, go to the entourage edge site, head to the forums, and use the partial link below to see the thread:
/forums/showthread.php?1835-How-to-Upgrade-the-Pocket-Edge-from-Dingo-to-Ermine
After rooting (thanks for posting that!), I can't seem to move any apps to the SD card.
I'm looking forward to installing the GAPPS, thanks for the how-tos.
I have been around and around the G2x forum trying find a specific thread for app mods for the G2x. I have flashed a couple of times now and feel comfortable dropping zips to my SD card. I have two different areas of potential modding I feel I haven't tapped. First I don't change Roms a lot because of the time it takes to even get the phone aesthetically back to where it was. Second feel like I have modded to the potential of my G2x. Have changed the screen density but don't want to let my paid rooting apps to go to waste because I don't know how to use them correctly.
My paid rooting apps
Titanium backup
Absolute root tools
Any one have any app and or modding tips?
Should this be a stickie?
i've read your post three times now and still can't figure out what you are asking?
Are you asking what tools every root user should have in their toolbox?
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Maybe an example may help.
Iv'e found that there is the potiential to chage the buid.prop on our phones would be able to view netflix movies. I have Absolute system root tools and have usd that app and others but thats been 3 tweaks using 3 paid apps. Wish I knew more doable tweaks.
If anyone has any other root app tweaks I was hoping people would plop them here. Also is there any way I can flash a rom already themed.
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Are you asking what tools every root user should have in their toolbox?
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I guess but if your follow up has me exploring for myself, between 5 kids and working no time to.
The abilty to customize this phone is almost unlimited. What do you want to do? I am stock rooted. Black taskbar. No problem. Freeze apps, try anttek app manager free. Better battery. Setcpu. Download to the phone, try download all files. Block ads, try adfree. What are you trying to do?
Waiting on gb for netflix and a couple of other things.
I think he's saying that he's wondering if he's missing anything out of the couple of Root-required apps he bought?
Well I barely use Titanium backup. I started using it more because the G2x is a powerhouse and I'm currently playing several games that require me to backup their save files. The paid version lets you backup multiple copies of the same app... which is useless to me. So I use the Free Version. As long as I can do 1 backup before I format, so I can restore afterwards.
Also Root Explorer is a god-send.... although while I did buy that I hardly have the need to download it EVERY time I flash. The built-in file manager from CM7 works well enough to navigate folders. I guess if you are changing your density it kind of requires it though.
The other thing I would download, is ROM Manager. It will check your Rom Version and alert you when there are new updates. It will download them for you, plus whatever else you need, and start the flashing process automatically (once you accept). Handy with CM7 nightlies because you DON'T have to constantly blow everything away... just flash the new nightly over an old one.
Not many apps require root access but these are the 3 main ones.
At the right moment.
player911 said:
I think he's saying that he's wondering if he's missing anything out of the couple of Root-required apps he bought?
Well I barely use Titanium backup. I started using it more because the G2x is a powerhouse and I'm currently playing several games that require me to backup their save files. The paid version lets you backup multiple copies of the same app... which is useless to me. So I use the Free Version. As long as I can do 1 backup before I format, so I can restore afterwards.
Also Root Explorer is a god-send.... although while I did buy that I hardly have the need to download it EVERY time I flash. The built-in file manager from CM7 works well enough to navigate folders. I guess if you are changing your density it kind of requires it though.
The other thing I would download, is ROM Manager. It will check your Rom Version and alert you when there are new updates. It will download them for you, plus whatever else you need, and start the flashing process automatically (once you accept). Handy with CM7 nightlies because you DON'T have to constantly blow everything away... just flash the new nightly over an old one.
Not many apps require root access but these are the 3 main ones.
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Go figure I'm backing up apps for a flash and I am lucky enough to catch the attention of a dev. Thanks every one for their replies. ^ I am asking this question, thank you again for answering. First the part about root explorer/file manager there is no one place to find a number of tweaks so i'm then midnight flashing (pun may be intended ) and by the time apps are downloaded titanium backed up im no longer interested and tweaks out side of screen density and Cm settings. Obviously Rom manager solves my time issues . I wont have to re theme and tweak right just a Rom flash? Can I use the one packed in CM7? Do you have any other root explorer/ root tools tweaks suggestions (part of root question) would love to read?
On your part with out knowing answered a lot of other questions I had.