Running Services - what's the 2nd column of apps? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

When you go to Manage Applications and then the Running Services Tab, it'll show you a list of apps that are running, but if you click on the lower right hand of the screen, near where it says "Ram... 177 MB Free" (or whatever your numbers are) you're taken to another list of apps.
What are these apps? Are they apps running in the background, idle, not running? And what are their effects on the battery/CPU usage?

Cached background processes.

Hm, gotcha. Thanks.

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[Q] After Using Advance Task Manager - items still show up in "recent" menu

so i'm using an advance task killer (blue icon) and whenever i end all open apps
it tells me "advanced task killer ended "x" apps" but all the apps remain open in the recent app window in their current state..
is there an alternative way to remove the apps from the recent menu all at once?
i'm new to honeycomb..
Get rid of the Task killer imo
baseballfanz said:
Get rid of the Task killer imo
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okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
avpmusic said:
okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
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I use Active Apps & Watchdog to kill apps. Both in the market.
It's a Recent Apps list. Not a running in the background list.
All Android since 1.0 (T-Mobile G1, the first Android phone), there's been a recent app list. You press and hold the Home button. On Android 3.0 for tablets, there is a dedicated button.
In Android 3.1, the recent app list has been extended to more than 5 shown. It's now 14/15
You don't need to manually quit apps on Android. I get 15-20 hours battery with heavy use.
Hakizi said:
You don't need to manually quit apps on Android. I get 15-20 hours battery with heavy use.
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How in the world do you get that much usage....is the screen on 1% brightness and radio off?...
life64x said:
How in the world do you get that much usage....is the screen on 1% brightness and radio off?...
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I just leave the screen on auto brightness. The battery on these things is excellent.
I am new to not just Honeycomb but android all together. I think that it is completely asinine that there isn't an easy way to stop/close apps. when you bring up the recent app list if you tap & hold you should be given the option to close that app/window.
jadesse said:
I am new to not just Honeycomb but android all together. I think that it is completely asinine that there isn't an easy way to stop/close apps. when you bring up the recent app list if you tap & hold you should be given the option to close that app/window.
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+1 for this
avpmusic said:
okay so what would an alternative way to quit apps to save battery life?
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An "app" called Android. Honeycomb caches and/or kills apps on its own. Try it without the killer. Start angry birds, exit and then go back....
So what is a GOOD and FUNCTIONING Task Manager app for the HoneyComb platform? I am using ZDBOX for my Thunderbolt, but it is NOT compatible with HoneyComb.
I use Task Manager to monitor which apps is USING too much battery, not killing them. It's must faster to use this type of app than going to Settings -> Applications and wait for the apps to be listed.
For example, I use ZDBOX in my Thunderbolt and notice that Skype is running in the background ALL THE TIME, using 11 to 25 Mb even when I am not using it for the whole day. Battery life begun to suffer, so I uninstall it.
The way android works is that if an app is using a service that needs to be ran in the background, you'll find it in that list in the application menu. Otherwise, it gets cached, so it will restore faster when you you open it again. Plain and simple, if you need to use a task manager for an Android app, it's either a poorly designed app - possibly containing something bad, or you need to shut down all the services the app needs - which should be a rare occasion if it's a worthwhile app.
What are you trying to kill so often?
If it's something that you've told is okay to run in the background, when you kill it, it probably starts up again. Using a task manager to kill these means your phone is constantly starting up and killing a service, which isn't good for battery life.
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Hakizi said:
I just leave the screen on auto brightness. The battery on these things is excellent.
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Must not be playing much flash. That eats it up.
watchdog not only will let you kill apps but tell you if any are overachivers
if things get out of hand press and hold the power button for a clean restart
I think if you go through settings and look for running apps, you can kill them. You app murderer.
franky1029 said:
The way android works is that if an app is using a service that needs to be ran in the background, you'll find it in that list in the application menu. Otherwise, it gets cached, so it will restore faster when you you open it again. Plain and simple, if you need to use a task manager for an Android app, it's either a poorly designed app - possibly containing something bad, or you need to shut down all the services the app needs - which should be a rare occasion if it's a worthwhile app.
What are you trying to kill so often?
If it's something that you've told is okay to run in the background, when you kill it, it probably starts up again. Using a task manager to kill these means your phone is constantly starting up and killing a service, which isn't good for battery life.
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That's why I need a Task Killer: to kill those poor-behaving apps. I don't use the Task Killer very often, though.
For example: I use an app called Flight Track. I don't fly very often, but I do fly more than average (once to twice a month, sometimes none in a month). This app is running in the background ALL the time. But on months I don't fly, I do not need this app to run in the background. So I kill the app and it does NOT start again in the background until I manually start the app.

[Q] icon changes after update

icon changes after update
hi,
i have some games in a home screen folder.
when that game updates, then the icon in the folder looks the default android icon and not the original game/app icon, as before the update.
to get the game icon back, i have to delete that icon and then make another shortcut for that game and put it into the folder.
any other war to do this ?
will having less services running, extend the battery life ?
google maps always seems to be on as a service, though i havent used it in a long time. if i stop the service, it starts again.
which android services can be safely stopped ?
HTC Desire S, Sense UI 2.1, Android 2.3.3
thanks
Anyone has the same experience ?
+ 1 mate
my solution is just move .apk to internal mem
after that is ok
I rebooted and it fixed the icons issue.
Yes, fewer active services will improve battery.
Google maps is used for location services like weather, world clock etc. other apps that use location services.... So it comes back on no matter how many times you kill it, unless you totally turn off all network connections, which is no fun.
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& also running less services does not improve your battery life as when a program is on RAM it doesn't use power
but if you kill services with task managers then they will start again which causes battery drain
I let the phone to update automatically, i dont move the apks myself.
geek_seeds said:
+ 1 mate
my solution is just move .apk to internal mem
after that is ok
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For me, reboot does not refresh the icons, they still remain as the default android icon.
i can delete them and then make the app shortcut again, and then add to the folder, then the appropriate game icon is shown.
mikeyd85 said:
I rebooted and it fixed the icons issue.
Yes, fewer active services will improve battery.
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hmm, so cant stop it then.
i will have to check which services can be stopped safely.
MasterDL said:
Google maps is used for location services like weather, world clock etc. other apps that use location services.... So it comes back on no matter how many times you kill it, unless you totally turn off all network connections, which is no fun.
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i do not kill processes myself. earlier i was using ATK, but then i removed it.
i just monitor the processes and services running in the background.
what u r saying about program being on RAM consuming no battery, is true. but what i was wondering was about services - which i believe dont just stay and idle in the RAM, but i think must be consuming some resources.
So i would like to know which android services can be safely shut down.
kartkk said:
& also running less services does not improve your battery life as when a program is on RAM it doesn't use power
but if you kill services with task managers then they will start again which causes battery drain
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[Q] Widget Locker into the systems?

I'm using Widget Locker. Nice app. However it's annoying me because its process not running in the back ground (like system files) but instead running like an app. So everytimes I go to "task manager" to clear running app in the background. I can't just clear all to save my baterry. It will close Widget Locker (i have manually close one by one app). Is there a way to integrate it to system files so I won't see it in the "Task Manager".
Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
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Try an app from the market called Watchdog. It is a really good app that lets you real time see processes and cpu usage and it will alert you on thresh holds of over usage. You can individually kill those processes which may be inadvertently over using your phone and eating up your battery. Task killers just blanketly kill apps and processes. Some of which restart right back up chewing up you cpu and also wasting precious battery. So doing this continuously will just overwork and kill your usage time on the phone. If you precisely pinpoint the app causing issues you can leave the phone to manage the application as it is designed to do and also you may notice other regularly used apps opening quicker and more responsive. Give it a try and keep us posted.
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sweetboy02125 said:
I'm using Widget Locker. Nice app. However it's annoying me because its process not running in the back ground (like system files) but instead running like an app. So everytimes I go to "task manager" to clear running app in the background. I can't just clear all to save my baterry. It will close Widget Locker (i have manually close one by one app). Is there a way to integrate it to system files so I won't see it in the "Task Manager".
Hope you understand what i'm trying to say
Happy Friday...
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I'm using Go Launcher. It has a built in task manager that also allows you to lock app so you don't close them by accident. Have my Widget Locker app Locked. Hope this helps also. And I think this should be in the Q&A Section.
hkeyman said:
Try an app from the market called Watchdog. It is a really good app that lets you real time see processes and cpu usage and it will alert you on thresh holds of over usage. You can individually kill those processes which may be inadvertently over using your phone and eating up your battery. Task killers just blanketly kill apps and processes. Some of which restart right back up chewing up you cpu and also wasting precious battery. So doing this continuously will just overwork and kill your usage time on the phone. If you precisely pinpoint the app causing issues you can leave the phone to manage the application as it is designed to do and also you may notice other regularly used apps opening quicker and more responsive. Give it a try and keep us posted.
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+1, well said.
bigfau said:
I think this should be in the Q&A Section.
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I think it's in the right section (Themes & Apps).

Task kilers??

Yes or no?? Ive had my tab for almost two weeks now and when i have a couple apps open it gets bogged down and reboots. Im pretty sure its because its run out of memory. Thoughts??
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I do not think that your problem is the system running out of memory. Android will automatically kill unused apps and free up memory when needed. I use the memory widget of GoLauncher EX and notice that as soon as the available ram goes below 100 mb or so, if I open a new app, the widget will actually show an increased memory.
I believe the problem is in the apps themselves, rather than in their memory request.
P_
Definitely a big help. I keep a one click widget on my home screen and tap it whenever I'm near it. has quite the visible effect when homescreen scrolling goes from somewhat laggy to perfectly smooth by hitting the button
Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
Entropy512 said:
Never use an automatic task killer on newer versions of Android.
There is no reason to use a task killer for memory management at this point, the only reasons to use it:
1) Killing apps that are using lots of background CPU (not memory) - this is rare
2) Killing apps that are holding long wakelocks - common with badly written apps. Ideally you avoid these, but some (like Facebook) are ones you just have to deal with sometimes.
3) Killing apps that use too much background data, which can also negatively affect battery life (Skype...)
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Thats what i was looking for! Thanks!!
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I agree with entropy, and if you do end up using one, don't be obsessive about killing apps constantly. Killing apps you frequently use can negatively effect your battery life.
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There is a task manager in your mini app tray.

Boost+ Icon Notification... Power Optimizer... then nothing.

I switched back to the HTC default launcher from the Google Now Launcher after the Google recommended articles started driving me bananas, then I noticed that Boost+ kept getting a notification "badge" on the app browser. If you open Boost+ there's a dot on "Power Optimizer" but if you tap that there's nothing in particular highlighted, just the usual list of "optimized" and "not optimized". I'm not sure what it's trying to tell me, but the notification badge is driving me up the wall.
If I understand correctly Boost+ allows the phone to render certain apps at lower resolution (like games) and this probably has to do with why I have OK battery life in some of my 3D apps. Otherwise, the app is worthless to me. The "junk cleaning" and "memory clearing" stuff is totally pointless, but I do like the reduced resolution - until there's another way to keep games from running at 2560x1440!
(otoh it's also why Play Store was crashing after the last OS update, so yay.)

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