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Hi there,
its maybe a stupid question, but what the hell...
..when you update your sofware. from 1.6 to 2.1 or 2.1 to 2.2
do you have to root your device again? or does it stay rootted?
and do you also have to reinstall all your files again or not?
thanks
I was wondering something similar. I was wondering that if I root my Vibrant now, will I have problems when t-mobile pushes the 2.2 update?
If I wont ill root my phone, if i will ill leave it alone until the 2.2 push
K.D.M. said:
Hi there,
its maybe a stupid question, but what the hell...
..when you update your sofware. from 1.6 to 2.1 or 2.1 to 2.2
do you have to root your device again? or does it stay rootted?
and do you also have to reinstall all your files again or not?
thanks
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If you are already rooted and updating the ROM version, you will NOT loose root. As long as you keep with the custom built ROMs, you'll stay rooted.
If the ROM requires a wipe, then you will loose all your files. There are ROMs that are no-wipe, which allow you to upgrade to the newer version without having to reset your phone.
Kryo_genik said:
I was wondering something similar. I was wondering that if I root my Vibrant now, will I have problems when t-mobile pushes the 2.2 update?
If I wont ill root my phone, if i will ill leave it alone until the 2.2 push
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Do NOT download the T-Mobile 2.2 update if you receive it on your phone. You'll more than likely loose root.
Either download the custom built ROM (not sure if the Vibrant has) or stick with your current version.
thanks for clearing this up...
akapoor said:
Do NOT download the T-Mobile 2.2 update if you receive it on your phone. You'll more than likely loose root.
Either download the custom built ROM (not sure if the Vibrant has) or stick with your current version.
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im not rooted now so its no big deal. however once it pushed ill just root it then and call it done.
I'm not 100% but I think everyone who did the OTA update to 2.2 are now finding that all the rooting tutorials are for 2.1 and cannot root until updated tutorials make their way out. With that said, I would root now while you're still on 2.1 and completely avoid your stock OTA 2.2 update. You'll be able to still update to 2.2 but it will be on a custom rom... win-win.
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A little off the op's post, but....
I have a motorola droid, just updated to the froyo 2.2 OTA. Rooted it easily with UniversalAndroot.apk.
i had rooted my galaxy S
and my device can't go into the download mode
because of the software/ hardware problem ( 3button can't use)
can i fresh a new rom without download mode?'
my rom is Eclair.dtjg4 now
i just got my inspire 4g and im coming for the darkside(iphone)....this is the first android ive owned , i love the phone....but i really dont care for all the crap that at&t has preloaded on it....so my question is wats the best way to uninstall all this crap? not sure if there is 1 app to do it or if i have to root or what....any help would be great.....
To get rid of ATT's bloatware, you will need to Root. There are a couple of stock Rooted ROMs that you can flash that have the bloat removed and HSUPA enabled, and there are also a bunch of custom ROMs that won't have this stuff either. There are 2 different ways you can go about rooting, either by using the attn1's Hack Kit or bubby323's HTC Inspire 4G Simple Root and S-OFF. Whichever way you choose, make sure you read a ton before you root. The process is a little involved, but if you understand what you're doing going into it it will be A LOT easier. I can root these things in about 15 minutes at this point
so which way would be the best for what i wanna do?.....im not real tech savy with android at this point, so i guess a stock rom will serve my purpose, or whats the advantage with going with a diffrent rom?
Its actually really easy once you do it the first time. There is ClearDroid, TCP, and Dilligaf roms.
As far as which one it is your choice, you can try them all if you want.
I just rooted for the first time last night using this method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406
Just follow along with the video that is in the link and it's easy as pie.
I am using the ClearDroid ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996368
Stock ROM minus the bloat.
This is what worked for me, everyone is different.
1 more question...i see everyone talking about flashing the radio also so is this something i have to do if im going to install android rev. rom or do i not worry with the radio?? or is it like if i flash the rom i have to flash the radio as well?
sinner6975 said:
1 more question...i see everyone talking about flashing the radio also so is this something i have to do if im going to install android rev. rom or do i not worry with the radio?? or is it like if i flash the rom i have to flash the radio as well?
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You don't have to flash the radio. It is optional.
wow...that was fast already rooted my phone in about 30 minutes.....thanks guys for all the help now i just have to decide on which rom i wanna install on it
one last question after i used bubbys 1 click and im ready to flash my new rom(android rev.) its says i need the clockwork mod im guessing thats the same thing as the rom manager app i have on there now....so all i need to do is put the rom on my sd card then use rom manager to install it
sinner6975 said:
one last question after i used bubbys 1 click and im ready to flash my new rom(android rev.) its says i need the clockwork mod im guessing thats the same thing as the rom manager app i have on there now....so all i need to do is put the rom on my sd card then use rom manager to install it
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you use rom manager. open it up and click "flash custom recovery image" or something like that. (its the first button). if your going to flash a gignerbread rom then get the3.xxx version of clockwork. if a 2.2 rom then 2.xxx. but be careful, i hear after using bubbys method, you get black screens in clockwork. thats why i just used the hack kit
Hello all,
I am fairly new to android, the Epic is my first android phone purchased on launch day. But I am very new to HTC and the EVO Shift. I just purchased one for my wife. I was wondering if someone could point me to some instructions, or just give me some, on how to best install clockwork and a rom. Her phone came with the latest update. Basically I would prefer to remain stock with just root and wireless tether. If anyone could help me accomplish this I would greatly appreciate it.
You are going to have to look at the temp root thread that is right here in this forum since she is on the newest update. You are kind of limited to what you can do unless a permanent root solution is found. Wireless tether should work. I think you may be able to remove or freeze the bloat using somethin like titanium but it will probably come back when you reboot. Can't use any custom roms yet either...
crawrj said:
Hello all,
I am fairly new to android, the Epic is my first android phone purchased on launch day. But I am very new to HTC and the EVO Shift. I just purchased one for my wife. I was wondering if someone could point me to some instructions, or just give me some, on how to best install clockwork and a rom. Her phone came with the latest update. Basically I would prefer to remain stock with just root and wireless tether. If anyone could help me accomplish this I would greatly appreciate it.
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The only root that has been gained on the evo shift GB update is temproot no perm root yet so on a simple reboot you lose root, there is no recovery and no custom roms while temp rooted, there are a couple threads dedicated to this stuff here already
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strapped365 said:
The only root that has been gained on the evo shift GB update is temproot no perm root yet so on a simple reboot you lose root, there is no recovery and no custom roms while temp rooted, there are a couple threads dedicated to this stuff here already
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Yeah I knew there was only temp root but I saw some roms that were gingerbread with root. So I didn't understand how that was. I thought maybe if you could get clockwork installed with temp root you could still flash a rom. So are the gingerbread roms only for people on froyo? Can you downgrade to froyo and upgrade to the gingerbread rom? Also what do you use to flash roms. With samsung you have odin. What do you use on htc? I see mention of ruu but have seen nothing on how to use it or where to get it. Sorry for so many questions and being really new to this side of the pond.
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crawrj said:
Yeah I knew there was only temp root but I saw some roms that were gingerbread with root. So I didn't understand how that was. I thought maybe if you could get clockwork installed with temp root you could still flash a rom. So are the gingerbread roms only for people on froyo? Can you downgrade to froyo and upgrade to the gingerbread rom? Also what do you use to flash roms. With samsung you have odin. What do you use on htc? I see mention of ruu but have seen nothing on how to use it or where to get it. Sorry for so many questions and being really new to this side of the pond.
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Flashing clockworkMod while temp rooted isn't going to work, as soon as your phone tries to reboot you lose root. So you can't access Clockwork, which is how/where you flash ROMs. Currently there is no way to revert back to froyo, the new bootloaders do not recognize the froyo RUU. Basically until a perm root solution is found, temp root is the best you can do.
The ROMs that you see are for user that rooted while running froyo and never took the "official" update from HTC.
Did you buy your phone brand new or used? Go to settings about phone, software information.
If you have Android 2.2 you can root your phone. Otherwise you are screwed until HTC unlocks the bootloader.
VICODAN said:
Did you buy your phone brand new or used? Go to settings about phone, software information.
If you have Android 2.2 you can root your phone. Otherwise you are screwed until HTC unlocks the bootloader.
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He said brand new so that means it came with 2.3.3
OK I will wait patiently until perma root has been established. Thank you all for all of the information.
Hi, I am waiting for my HTC Sensation to arrive from eBay. New to android and have been reading about rooting. Just want to make sure I am getting this clear:
So, to root, I'll need to to the S-off thing with revolution, then clockwork recovery, then SU to actually root it right?
I am not sure whether I need to root it, but I am interested in unlocking it for SIM and I read there's a way to do it if the phone is rooted. Also, I probably don't need some of the T-mobile apps and want to delete it. However, do I have necessarily have to flash a custom ROM after I rooted it? Can I just use what came with the HTC?
However, if I do this, I guess I can't update through HTC/T-mobile anymore right? So I'll have to flash some ROM, but does it have some modify ROM, or can I use the ROM that's official from HTC?
Can someone please correct me if I misunderstood the process? And also, can I reverse all this if I decide I just want to use it the way it was shipped except simunlocked, and be able to update newer version of the OS from HTC.
Thanks
Sensation rooting
I was just like you about a month and half ago. im new to android aslo but i'll help you. first- your right about using the revolutionary method and installing clockwork and super user. as for unlocking it for a SIM you might need super cid check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
to remove some tmobile apps use titanium backup (it's in the market)
As for roms im using stock but it's rooted. but before you root please update to 2.3.4 because it really improve your phone but yes you would have to flash update roms after you root. but you can find the official one's here if you look for them as soon as they come out.
pretty much yes to your questions...even if you root you can stay with your stock rom and just use titanium backup to delete all the junk u dont want. Also, even if you cant get updates officially, devs here are nice enuf to post the newest stock roms for you to flash so dont worry. so i suggest you read these three threads to start off and have fun (just read directions very carefully)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137311
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
edit: ah, i guess someone else was replying too
darryll4sh0 said:
I was just like you about a month and half ago. im new to android aslo but i'll help you. first- your right about using the revolutionary method and installing clockwork and super user. as for unlocking it for a SIM you might need super cid check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
to remove some tmobile apps use titanium backup (it's in the market)
As for roms im using stock but it's rooted. but before you root please update to 2.3.4 because it really improve your phone but yes you would have to flash update roms after you root. but you can find the official one's here if you look for them as soon as they come out.
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Thanks for the quick reply. So I can only remove some t-mobile apps if it's rooted right? I was thinking of updating to the newest version before considering rooting. I think I will be kinda in the same situation as you....so when you say stock rooted rom...it's basically the same ROM as what t-mobile has with SENSE etc...but can be apply to a rooted phone without losing root right?
Finally, since you're not using any custom ROM and stuff... do u find it worthwhile rooting? what other advantage have you notice if you're using the stock ROM?
Thanks again!
rooting sensation
My rom is the same one that comes when you first get the phone. the only expectation is that it's updated to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 and that it's rooted. When you root imagine like it's a window's pc and instead of using the guest account where stuff is limited, your now able to use the administrator account which lets you do anything.
As for advantages, i wanted to improve it's speed and battery life. the update helps but you'll find out that tmobile has alot of apps running in the background which slows it down and uses more battery and they also included useless app or two of the same kind of app. Right now im looking at other roms because im kinda tired of sense but i wish i could keep it's widgets.
darryll4sh0 said:
My rom is the same one that comes when you first get the phone. the only expectation is that it's updated to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 and that it's rooted. When you root imagine like it's a window's pc and instead of using the guest account where stuff is limited, your now able to use the administrator account which lets you do anything.
As for advantages, i wanted to improve it's speed and battery life. the update helps but you'll find out that tmobile has alot of apps running in the background which slows it down and uses more battery and they also included useless app or two of the same kind of app. Right now im looking at other roms because im kinda tired of sense but i wish i could keep it's widgets.
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Great. I think I'll just stick with the 2.3.4 firmware for now before considering flashing any custom ROMs etc.
So just so I am clear, I should update the unrooted phone to 2.3.4 when I get it. then I can perform the S-off, clockwork, superuser to get it rooted and just leave it as it is and use the existing ROM as it came with the phone. Until I need to update to a higher version, I will then flash a rooted version of whatever t-mobile came out with from here. Is that the deal?
Finally, what's superCID? Do I need that?
Thanks again.. you guys been a great help! I can't wait to play around with this when I get the phone this weekend
Rooting
Yep your correct....
As for super CID is something like a carrier unlock. This has something to do with updates i think. but by adding this you can flash any carrier's rom onto your phone. for example vodafone and orange are both 2 different europe phone companies and they both include different apps on their roms just like tmobile give there special apps. With super-CID you can put anyone of those carries rom on you phone regardless if it's a europe, usa, or asia sensation. but you don't need- i haven't put it on either.
As the title says, I have the Samsung Galaxy SII Sprint's variation. I rooted my phone when it was on the version before Gingerbread EL29. I used the SuperOneClick method to root my phone and after doing that, 'Superuser' was installed on my phone. Everything was going fine until I accidentally updated my phone to Gingerbread 2.3.6 EL29 via Sprint's over-the-air update. I know it sounds dumb from me but I really knew that if I updated my phone I could mess up my root privileges, but that pop up update was showing up each 5 minutes, that in one of them I accidentally pressed 'install'. Now I have tried to unroot my phone with SuperOneClick but 'Superuser' is still there and when I access an app that requires root privileges like 'Wireless Tether' it says that my phone is not rooted. I also tried to do a factory reset and root again with 'SuperOneClick' but it freezes up (I guess it's because 'Superuser' is still there?) I was also thinking on installing a rooted rom but I don't know if I can install custom roms (I don't know if I have CWM and if it will mess up because I'm not rooted?..) Right now I just want to get the latest rooted stable release possible.. Sorry for extending myself but I wanted to give all the important details as possible as I am new in handling root phones and also in this forum. I will appreciate any help, thanks!
-James E.
Btw you might want to ask in the epic forums. You will get slot more help. I would use sfhub el29 oneclick
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follow the online tutorial guide below by qbking77...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7pWjmKCsoc
Thank you PakAttack1994! I watched the video and even though it didn't work at the first time, I was able to ask him my questions and he was able to answer them. If you want to see with the problems that I went through and his replies are on the video comments. I'm the user 'jamesssssss'
lol np, I just pointed you in the right direction. qbking77 deserves a whole heap of credit over me.