[Q] Rooted Nexus S Vs other rooted devices - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I am wondering what the difference is between getting a Nexus S and Mytouch 4g (or other android device) if I plan on rooting. Isn't it the case that if I root a Mytouch 4g with a custom ROM, that I will get a similar experience as if I rooted the Nexus S? What am I missing here? If some of the hardware specs are "better" on a device other than the Nexus S, why not just get that device and root/Rom/unlock it? I have not yet bought an android phone (currently rocking the 1st gen iphone on t-mobile unlocked and jailbroken) and want to get the best phone/android experience possible. Any clarification and help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!

Get the Nexus S. It is the true Google experience. Which is the unaltered Android experience, which I consider the best. It has an unlocked bootloader. You will always get your updates first, from Google, before any other phone.
The only thing that is 'better' about the MyTouch 4g is the well, "4g". It supports up to 14.4mbps, but you most likely won't even get that. Do a speedtest on the MyTouch 4g before buying it. If it's under 7.2mbps, don't buy it. The Nexus S maxes out at 7.2mbps and most people don't even get close to that even with 4g. Some people have claimed over 10mbps in certain areas, and I did get 10mbps on a G2 here in Pittsburgh, however 10mbps wasn't much more than the 7.2mbps that my Vibrant got at that time. So I sent the G2 back.
What else makes you think the MyTouch 4g is better?
Nexus S has a faster CPU, superior GPU, much smoother experience. Not to mention the gorgeous Super AMOLED which is also far superior. Oh and the 4 inch screen.

No sd slot though
No led notification light
No 720p recording
But still I prefer this phone to other non google direct supported phones
Sent from my Nexus S

sorry for invading your topic, OP
but I have a very similar issue/question.
just like the OP, I'm not an android user yet, but I was thinking about getting a device with 1GB of ram and rooting it (Atrix maybe), will the system/experience be similar to that of the NS? ... am I going to feel different only when there is a new update or is the difference going to be all the time?

suleiman.aql said:
sorry for invading your topic, OP
but I have a very similar issue/question.
just like the OP, I'm not an android user yet, but I was thinking about getting a device with 1GB of ram and rooting it (Atrix maybe), will the system/experience be similar to that of the NS? ... am I going to feel different only when there is a new update or is the difference going to be all the time?
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typically if you are going to root then it kinda doesnt matter anyway as you will be getting many updates right from the ROM dev anyway, like cyanogen. so really who cares about official google updates.
however i should warn that the motorola atrix likely will NOT be able to load custom ROMs, just like the droid x, if it comes with an encrypted boot loader. dont support motorola.

RogerPodacter said:
however i should warn that the motorola atrix likely will NOT be able to load custom ROMs, just like the droid x, if it comes with an encrypted boot loader. dont support motorola.
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Oh! ... now that's some important information!
I think I'll wait for its release then and check what people say... I suppose that people will figure out if it's root-able or not very soon after the release, right?

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Moving On to HTC Inspire

Hey guys. I'm actually relatively new on the forums, though I've had my Captivate since December last year. I have been using ROMs from these forums since the third day I had my phone, I just never registered.
Anyway, I just feel I should make a post thanking everyone. Mostly MikeyMike01 and ChanceM, because the third ROM I ever flashed was Serendipity. And I've been using Serendipity since then. I have indeed flashed things in between, but the longest I've ever had a non-Serendipity ROM on my phone has been less than an hour. So it's safe to say that Serendipity is a physical part of my phone now... In fact, since I'm getting the HTC Inspire, my brother is getting my Captivate (his first Android phone), and the ROM that I pre-loaded for him is Serendipity 5.12. That's how much I trust/love this ROM.
Anyway, does anyone have any opinions on the HTC Inspire? I remember seeing one other person in these forums who switched to the same phone, saying that it seemed like a more sturdy phone.
I will thoroughly miss these Captivate forums though. Thanks are as follows:
MikeyMike01
ChanceM
existz (I use SuckerPunch-Voodoo)
Samsung (LOL I use the KP1 modem, dunno who to thank for this one)
Anyone else who has some sort of mod on my phone.
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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MikeyMike01 said:
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
Sent from my Captivate.
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but...it's made by samsung!
alex4lex said:
but...it's made by samsung!
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
ryude said:
We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
daleaf said:
That doesn't change how poorly Samsung codes their ROMs..
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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I wouldn't push it that far....
After weighing all the pros and cons of the Galaxy S series and the upcoming 2 (talking about the internation/original here), the Galaxy S 2 will most likely be my next device. Decent build, decent software, hardware is top notch, and that screen is something I can't drop now that I've stared at it for so long. Knowing that the international Galaxy S 2 works with AT&T's HSPA+ bands without modifications is also a deciding factor.
please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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jc2470 said:
its way faster and way more enjoyable, I wouldnt go back for nothing u will definately like it.
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So I've heard.
MikeyMike01 said:
I couldn't justify spending $500 on a software upgrade.
The SGS2 seems interesting though. Have to find a place to import it fit a reasonable price... The international version is completely AT&T compatible.
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I'd never pay that much for a phone. I'm buying it because my father's iPhone 4 is now eligible for upgrade, but he doesn't want a new phone so we're using his upgrade for mine.
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We've already proven that Samsung isn't the problem, its at&t. The i9000 already getting gingerbread.
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Agreed for the most part. AT&T held back the Froyo ROM without a doubt for stupid reasons, but we aren't sure if the i9000 is actually getting Gingerbread. Yeah, it was leaked, but so was Froyo way back when. I understand that Froyo wasn't released for our phone mostly because of AT&T, but you can't be so sure; it's still just a "leak".
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I think Samsung does a decent job, the i9000 roms are pretty close to perfect without any mods.
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Not true at all. Serendipity is the closest I've found to perfect, but it's still a ROM. From experience and from hearing other people speak about the Inspire, you don't really even need to put a ROM on the HTC Inspire 4G for it to be perfect. I'm definitely going to flash something (maybe something that'll remove Sense UI, I'm not sure if I'll like it), but most of the features in the ROMs are already found on the phone as stock.
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please help me out. I'm with rogers canada they are sending me iphone 4. There is no way ill use or open it cause of previous experience. So I'm gonna sell it for 500. Now if you had to buy any of this phone which you would get? Atrix, sgs2, dhd, or nexus s. DHD already available here and nexus s and atrix coming this month. Sgs2 heard somewhere at&t version will be available. So which you would get?
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I would not get the DHD. I have a friend who has it, and it's just overhyped. It's not as good as everyone makes it seem.
The Nexus S is pretty much like this phone in which you'll have the same amount of development. The hardware may be different in technical respects, but the same in user experience.
The SGS 2 isn't released yet, but when it is, it's going to be a great phone. If it was already released, I'd consider buying it, but I'm not going to wait for it to come out.
The Atrix is somewhat overkill, but if you're entering college or have a need for a netbook/small laptop with basic features (e-mail, Facebook, etc.), then the Atrix is for you. It's just expensive, even with a contract.
Also, please post questions in the Q&A forum; that's why it's there.
Try Cognition 4.1 on your captivate. You won't be disappointed.
The Inspire kicks ass.
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Between CM7 and MIUI on the Inspire it blows anything and everything out of the water in the Captivate/i9000 forums. After seeing how Samsung utterly destroys their phones with Touchwiz, I'll never buy a Samsung phone again.
Go with the Inspire and you will not be disappointed.
So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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They are basically the same phone. So that suggestion doesn't make much sense...
Inspire is a downgrade in hardware but upgrade in software. Add to that the rooting is quite a pain compared to the captivate...
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So DHD is not that good but inspire 4G is recommended? it's a bit confusing. Isn't the inspire 4G just a DHD with another name? Is there something I am missing?
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Ohhhhh I thought you were talking about a phone that doesn't exist (Droid HD anyone?).
Anyway, yes, the phones are almost completely similar. It's just that the DHD is European, I believe.
eramming said:
The inspire is a downgrade hardware wise. Should of held out for something more amazing that's coming out this year. If it doesn't have a dual core I'm not interested.
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How so? It has a lower pixel density and a Super LCD, which are both a downgrade, but I don't watch videos on my phone. Otherwise, how is it a downgrade? It has 700 somewhat MB of RAM, gets amazing Quad and Linpack scores compared to the Captivate (I don't base opinions on benchmarks, though), and Sense UI, though I might not use Sense...
the insipire isnt much of an upgrade. did u already get it? i personally would still take my captivate over it
I honestly can't see any of the current phones destroy the captivate in functionality and flexibility except for the nexus S. Pure google + decent specs.
The inspire blows cap away in speed, everyone in inspire forums will tell u that and almost all of them are previous captivate owners and switched to it, even blows the atrix away, call it a downgrade or whatever put whatever spin u like on it and its still the top phone to beat. and it works out of the box the radio even works great, i get no random shut downs my battery consumption is better then cappy, I dont get lag at all, it will load any program faster and run it better then the cappy did, watch a video on youtube about it, http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/featured/face-off-htc-inspire-4g-vs-samsung-captivate/ and yes no doubt there will be more better phones out this year same as 6 months from then there will be even more, with my 6 month early upgrade it cost me 300 to get it which I certainly can live with, in 6 months i will get another of the better phones out of the time.
I gave my Cap to my aunt. I have Serendipity 5.12 on it and MIUI on my Inspire. I have around 75 apps on the Inspire and it booted quicker, unlocked quicker, and the notification bar pulled down with no lag at all.
I was running CM7 on it and it was even faster than that.
The screen difference isn't that big of a deal, either, and I've stared at the SAMOLED screen since last August.

[Q] Should I buy the Nexus S?

looking to buy a SNS currently own a galaxs s i9000m
hi guy i own a samsung galaxy s i9000m from bell in canada and wanting to move to SNS mobilicity anyone have any advice? should i? any problems with the phone like SD card failiure and such? any hardware problems? any ad updates from samsung that renders the device useless?
updates are from Google directly, not Samsung.
Samsung provides the hardware, nothing more.
Galody said:
hi guy i own a samsung galaxy s i9000m from bell in canada and wanting to move to SNS mobilicity anyone have any advice? should i? any problems with the phone like SD card failiure and such? any hardware problems? any ad updates from samsung that renders the device useless?
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the SNS is safe, unlike the I9000M
no internal SD issue
it works great in either Wind or MobilityCity
no external SD, is very hard to go a day without it
it can get buggy with 2.3 is not that smooth, there are many apps that are not 2.3 ready, and FCs
updates are OTA direct from google
in SNS you will lose all the cool multimedia features from SGS
no MKV, no DivX, no AVI, no etc....
[Q] Planning to buy one?
Is the Nexus S good? I planning to buy one, cause im tried for Wildfire which it can play 3D games. Noticing that Singapore just released Nexus S, so simple question is Nexus S good?
Definitely. Its way way better den wildfire. You won't regret your choice
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Definitely. Its way way better den wildfire. You won't regret your choice
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Ok, thanks... I'll buy one next week... Another Question, can it able to root? Able to get Cyanogenmod 7 on Nexus? Sorry if i have too many question...
Rooting a Nexus device couldn't be simpler. Check the Dev section and I even spot a CM7 nightly thread!
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conqu1stador said:
Rooting a Nexus device couldn't be simpler. Check the Dev section and I even spot a CM7 nightly thread!
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Thanks... I already ordering one. But one last question whats the difference with Amoled and SLCD?
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dax4182 said:
Thanks... I already ordering one. But one last question whats the difference with Amoled and SLCD?
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They're two different sceens. The Nexus S has 2 variants. None of them use "AMOLED"
I9020 Nexus S: Super AMOLED
I9023 Nexus S: Super LCD
And in my opinion, I9020 > I9023. Pretty sure the large % of the crowd would agree.
And yes, rooting is SO SIMPLE on the Nexus S. All you do is fastboot oem unlock, fastboot flash recovery recovery.img and flash a su.zip and you're rooted. The hardest part is installing the drivers and 2.3.X SDK etc etc.
And yeah you can get CM7.
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They're two different sceens. The Nexus S has 2 variants. None of them use "AMOLED"
I9020 Nexus S: Super AMOLED
I9023 Nexus S: Super LCD
And in my opinion, I9020 > I9023. Pretty sure the large % of the crowd would agree.
And yes, rooting is SO SIMPLE on the Nexus S. All you do is fastboot oem unlock, fastboot flash recovery recovery.img and flash a su.zip and you're rooted. The hardest part is installing the drivers and 2.3.X SDK etc etc.
And yeah you can get CM7.
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Though there are users who will swear by SLCD instead.
A simple way to differentiate the screen.
SAMOLED : More vibrant colours and deeper blacks.
SLCD : Sharper and more clarity
Both screens are awesome though. You won't go wrong with either one
But if you're buying it in Singapore, it's going to be i9023 version, which is SLCD.
thanks.. Sooner i will get one...
Hi, I'm looking to buy a phone pretty much for Android development. I'd be looking to experiment and play initially, not for commercial use yet. I'd be looking to do some augmented reality apps, both position-based and location-based.
I don't really use phones for.. calls, but I would be looking to have this as a long-term investment that I'd like to last for a few years. Looking at the specs for the S on paper, it's a little disappointing in terms of power, especially when compared to the likes of the Samsung S2 or the HTC pyramid/shooter. I'm sure dual-cores will go from speed to speed before hitting quad though, but at 1Ghz, the Nexus S is essentially still like a Nexus 1, with a few more bits and pieces.
Watching a video - the story of the nexus - on youtube.com/googlenexus, one google guy implied that there's more to come from them, and I've read in a thread around here that they tend to release every 6 months. I'd be really peeved if I bought a Nexus S only for a new Nexus to come out in a few months time.
I am interested in Gingerbread, and Samsung's touchwiz looks so incredibly crap, so, long story short, for someone who doesn't want to buy phones too often, and would use it mainly for dev experimentation with the odd phone call, would the Nexus S really be worth it? I'd be prepared to wait a month or two and pay a bit extra for a dual-core.
Looking forward to hearing your opinions. Thanks
One reason why Google did not release a dual core nexus when they could have done it, is because Android OS was not optimized for dual cores yet. So even when other manufacturers starts to push dual core models. It won't really work as well as Nexus S until Google release a dual core Nexus in future.
Hummingbird is a still considered a huge upgrade over the 1st gen Snapdragon processor which the Nexus One had in terms of graphics capability. Thus making graphics intensive applications/games and UI enhancements such as live wallpapers a much smoother experience.
You can of course wait for the next Nexus to be out. But in terms of technology, you cannot finish waiting. After you get a dual core Nexus a quad core Nexus might be out in future. It depends on how you see things and whether you think the Nexus S would be worth the buy.
To me its well worth the buy.
Ahh, thanks for the reply. OK, so, I had a basic play on the Nexus S today. No internet or connectivity though, and only stock apps. The people in CPW didn't really know much about it Overall the phone feels very responsive. I previously had a Desire, which I sent back because it had a cracked case, and it felt sluggish at times. It's nice to see an Android system like its supposed to.
The Nexus S in UK is £429. The 16gb S2 is down for £530ish. It's hard to think that for a little bit more I'd be getting dual-core so that even though Android isn't yet ready for dual-cores yet, it would be in later versions. The problem is the Samsung UI though,
I don't want to buy one of the latter single-core phones only for it to vanish in the power of dual-cores. For example, experimenting with augmented reality - 3d models on screen as opposed to info boxes - I'd imagine would be pretty intensive.
The Nexus S seems to be a basic prototype of where the new phones should head.
I don't know. I'm getting itchy fingers!
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Ahh, thanks for the reply. OK, so, I had a basic play on the Nexus S today. No internet or connectivity though, and only stock apps. The people in CPW didn't really know much about it Overall the phone feels very responsive. I previously had a Desire, which I sent back because it had a cracked case, and it felt sluggish at times. It's nice to see an Android system like its supposed to.
The Nexus S in UK is £429. The 16gb S2 is down for £530ish. It's hard to think that for a little bit more I'd be getting dual-core so that even though Android isn't yet ready for dual-cores yet, it would be in later versions. The problem is the Samsung UI though,
I don't want to buy one of the latter single-core phones only for it to vanish in the power of dual-cores. For example, experimenting with augmented reality - 3d models on screen as opposed to info boxes - I'd imagine would be pretty intensive.
The Nexus S seems to be a basic prototype of where the new phones should head.
I don't know. I'm getting itchy fingers!
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i too have itchy fingers. although i feel that the nexus and evo 3d arent significant enough jumps to make me switch from my evo. i would like the speed of the evo shift's cup/gfx and/or the hummingbird but the form factors that they are available in dont really do it for me. almost 100% decided on sticking with the evo for a little while longer...a brand new one at that

[Q] You choose between EVO 3D, Moto Photon, HTC Sensation?

Hello guys, I am in a bind. If you have to choose between these three phones:
1. HTC EVO 3D - SPRINT
2. HTC SENSATION - TMOBILE
3. MOTOROLA PHOTON - SPRINT
Which one would you choose and why? Please also consider the carriers in making your determination.
Any help in deciding will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!
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Hello guys, I am in a bind. If you have to choose between these three phones:
1. HTC EVO 3D - SPRINT
2. HTC SENSATION - TMOBILE
3. MOTOROLA PHOTON - SPRINT
Which one would you choose and why? Please also consider the carriers in making your determination.
Any help in deciding will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!
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Im canadian, so unfortunately i can't help you in the carrier department however ill share my opinion on the devices with you.
1- Bad battery, lacklustre reviews id personally stay away, haven't heard anything exceptional about this device.
2- Personally owned this device, it sucks; stay away. Phone lags a lot doing simple things because of the awful sense 3.0. Phone Does not even feel worthy of its dual core status.
3- Best choice out of these three imo, this is strictly from reading reviews. Engadget just reviewed this today; looks like a solid device actually. http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/motorola-photon-4g-review/
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Im canadian, so unfortunately i can't help you in the carrier department however ill share my opinion on the devices with you.
1- Bad battery, lacklustre reviews id personally stay away, haven't heard anything exceptional about this device.
2- Personally owned this device, it sucks; stay away. Phone lags a lot doing simple things because of the awful sense 3.0. Phone Does not even feel worthy of its dual core status.
3- Best choice out of these three imo, this is strictly from reading reviews. Engadget just reviewed this today; looks like a solid device actually. http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/15/motorola-photon-4g-review/
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Hi unleased12,
Thanks for your response. Yea, I have been doing a lot of research. As a matter of fact, I owned the HTC Sensation for 8 days. During that time frame, I did notice the lagging and it was only when I rooted and flashed a custom ROM, did it perform like it should. It was blazing fast but I returned it before the 14 days so I could give other phones a shot.
I really liked the Sensation's performance AFTER flashed with a custom ROM which stil had Sense 3.0 on it, but the kernel had been tweaked and I had it overclocked to 1.5GHz.
I really like the look of the Photon but I am wondering if it will have the support of XDA developers as far as custom ROMs go.
I will go ahead and read that review you posted. Thanks!
PS. Any other phone worth waiting for in the next few weeks?
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Hi unleased12,
Thanks for your response. Yea, I have been doing a lot of research. As a matter of fact, I owned the HTC Sensation for 8 days. During that time frame, I did notice the lagging and it was only when I rooted and flashed a custom ROM, did it perform like it should. It was blazing fast but I returned it before the 14 days so I could give other phones a shot.
I really liked the Sensation's performance AFTER flashed with a custom ROM which stil had Sense 3.0 on it, but the kernel had been tweaked and I had it overclocked to 1.5GHz.
I really like the look of the Photon but I am wondering if it will have the support of XDA developers as far as custom ROMs go.
I will go ahead and read that review you posted. Thanks!
PS. Any other phone worth waiting for in the next few weeks?
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Curious towards this, what rom did you flash on your sensation to make it fast? haha i tried a couple custom roms and the phone still didn't even come close to my Galaxy s II.
As for the photon dev support, its really hard to say as most MOTO phones have locked boot loaders. But then again the atrix is starting to get some love as people unlocked its BL. As far as dev support goes HTc and samsung are the best, imo.
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Curious towards this, what rom did you flash on your sensation to make it fast? haha i tried a couple custom roms and the phone still didn't even come close to my Galaxy s II.
As for the photon dev support, its really hard to say as most MOTO phones have locked boot loaders. But then again the atrix is starting to get some love as people unlocked its BL. As far as dev support goes HTc and samsung are the best, imo.
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I had flashed the Android Revolution HD 1.1.7 HD ROM and set it to run at 1.5GHz. It was TEARING up all the benchmarks! On CF Bench, I was scoring higher than a Galaxy S II!!
I "think" the Photon has already been rooted, but not sure. I really liked the HTC Sensation but it would have to be really the BEST available right now to make me go with TMobile. The problem with TMobile is the imminent merger with ATT.
I would say PHOTON for sure. And as for development...this phone has been out for only a week to 10 days now and already has bootloader unlocked. AND...AND...AND...with the acquisition of Google and Motorola today, I would say things are REALLY LOOKING UP!!
PHOTON PHO SHO!!!!!!!
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I would say PHOTON for sure. And as for development...this phone has been out for only a week to 10 days now and already has bootloader unlocked. AND...AND...AND...with the acquisition of Google and Motorola today, I would say things are REALLY LOOKING UP!!
PHOTON PHO SHO!!!!!!!
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Yea, that is exactly what I was thinking... But I keep reading reviews talking about this PenTile technology used in the display and some say it degrades the image. Anyone know anything about this or is it just nitpicking?
I personified have the Evo 3d I think it is fantastic. The processor ks extremely fast 1.2 gigahertz if I recall right and you can't go wrong with 3d although for a power user you'll get an extremist short battery life like 5 hrs the photon is great I kinda wish k could go To it now.because they have a new accessory for it that has a full size key board and a mouse the phone goes on a stand and.you have the option to plug the phone.into a tv. Then you.can use it as a full computer. The set up is only 135$ after tax in store. As for carrier you should go with Sprint. The unlimited data is with Sprint within extra fees. Now.I know there's the $10 fee but I say you pay for the hardware. 4g is great if its available in your area. T-mobi has to many problems with signal. Anyone I know at dorms can't get signal inside if they do its terrible. So i recommend going with Sprint and if your worried abluo battery then go with photon if not and don't care about the keyboard go with EVO 3D I hope this helps
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Yea, that is exactly what I was thinking... But I keep reading reviews talking about this PenTile technology used in the display and some say it degrades the image. Anyone know anything about this or is it just nitpicking?
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Nitpicking.
I think the screen is fantastic.
if you are interested in modding your phone, you should also consider the community sizes of each phone.
bigger community = more development = more roms and kernels = more customization
photon has the least (so i wouldnt consider this)
evo 3d has a slightly bigger community than the sensation

[Q] G2x vs Atrix vs Photon

I need a new phone and I have narrow the choices to these 3 phones: atrix(300$), g2x(300$), and the photon(200$).
Pros for g2x:
higher fps in benchmarks
IPS brighter then pentile and lcd
8mp camera with 1080p
seems very snappy
stock gingerbread
1.3 front camera
Pros for atrix:
higher resolution and density screen
1gb ram
huge batttery
not as bulky as photon
bigger storage(16gb)
pros for photon:
Big screen(i know, contradictory)
better screen?(brighter than lcd)
quadrant scores
kickstand
loud speakers
also does the 1gb vs 512 mb ram really affect the performance of the phone? like multitasking and quickness. from what i've seen, the g2x seems way more snappy then the atrix or the photon. am i missing something here? how fast does each load apps and websites? Also can you use the photon on tmobile here in US? or is it only for international. i looked through a lot of forums with no definitive answers. and also does the atrix only use edge on tmobile? is that true?
also from what i've gathered the g2x seems to have a lot of bugs like reboots an d boot loops, is that true? can it be fixed by updates? or is it hardware. does flashing other roms or kernels help?
what are the battery life on each? which one is the best?
Sorry that post was long, I just want honest answers regardless of what phone you have, since this is in the g2x section.
RAM doesn't affect performance at all. It's just that the Photon and Atrix are running Motorola's UI which bogs down the phone like Sense UI.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
RAM doesn't affect performance at all. It's just that the Photon and Atrix are running Motorola's UI which bogs down the phone like Sense UI.
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So will Custom roms fix the lag on the atrix and photon? but on youtube the videos showed that their performance wasn't that much better
And boot loops are a direct result of user error.
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And boot loops are a direct result of user error.
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What do you mean by "user error"?
Users not flashing properly. I am currently making and updating several themes for this phone, so I'm flashing various roms, and the component apks dozens of times EVERY DAY....and the ONLY time I've ever gotten a boot loop was when I made a stupid mistake...either flashed the wrong file, or didn't wipe what I was supposed to for what I was trying to do, or didn't fix permissions, or I changed smali code beyond what I knew what I was doing, and it went wrong.
But never once have I had my phone just up and decide to "boot loop."
Also, sometimes people make changes to things and then boot up to try it, and it takes 3-4 minutes to boot up because they're rebuilding the dex for 150 apps...adn they just start screaming, "OMG I"M BOOTLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" But they just need to chill out and wait.
I've had both the atrix and the g2x. Personally, I would go with the g2x, has the same processor as the atrix, but stock android is the best in my book. The g2x is absolutely the fastest smartphone I've ever owned. Already has an amazing development page going on with AOSP,cm7, and MiUi ...etc. camera is better on the g2x. True 1080p recording ( I don't think the atrix got that update for 1080p like it was supposed to). To me g2x wins hands down out of those three phones IMO.
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1) there are phones that have had reboots, lockups and shut downs. that have nothing to do with user error, these are people that never flashed anything( it does appear the line of phones that had this are gone. dont see much of it anymore except from people that have had their phones for a while)
2)each phone you listed are on different carriers so you really need to look at whos got the best coverage for you.
3)atrix and photon have motoblur so g2x wins right there.
you didnt mention verizon if you dont care about a locked bootloader or blur than the bionic comes out on thursday and should be a great phone. i think motorola makes the best hardware. and if the google buy goes through thats a big plus.
but if you can wait until october even better options will be out. oct-dec is gonna really be a big next tech phone period. and icecream sandwich will come on some of those phones.
screens. the ips on the g2x beats the atrix and photon hand down.
if your into installing custom roms and tmobile service is good in your area the g2x should be fine for you. if you dont do custom romming than dont expect much in the way of updates or support for the g2x.
I really suggest you wait for octobers phones if you can.
good luck
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I've had both the atrix and the g2x. Personally, I would go with the g2x, has the same processor as the atrix, but stock android is the best in my book. The g2x is absolutely the fastest smartphone I've ever owned. Already has an amazing development page going on with AOSP,cm7, and MiUi ...etc. camera is better on the g2x. True 1080p recording ( I don't think the atrix got that update for 1080p like it was supposed to). To me g2x wins hands down out of those three phones IMO.
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Couldn't have explained it any better.
Definitely go with the G2X.
Are you going to be flashing custom roms? If so, I'm not sure that motoblur would be that big of a deal. Just flash a rom without it. I'd personally go with the better specs, but thats just me.
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Are you going to be flashing custom roms? If so, I'm not sure that motoblur would be that big of a deal. Just flash a rom without it. I'd personally go with the better specs, but thats just me.
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Yes I am going to flash custom roms, but the improvement I saw on the few youtube videos wasn't enough to impress me.
Since your in the G2x section, I can't help but assume that most of the answers will be biased

(Q)[NS4G] Is It Worth Buying???

Is it honestly worth buying an NS4G? Is there anything it can do that my Epic 4G cant?
Granted it has no KB, but i'm just curious as to, is it worth 100$ for me to buy a NS4G. or just wait to Nov 1, and buy a newer phone and keep the Epic 4G as a Backup versus having 2 backups.
I (not me personally) can port roms from the NS4G to my Epic 4G, so all in all is it honestly worth a 100$ to get one seeing how i have the Epic 4G, and come Nov 1, i can upgrade to a newer phone.
TIA
Sorry saw there was an already thread but the damn xda search is down and because this thread is more of a debate between 2 choices i thought it can be as a single thread
Assuming you're talking about the Epic 4G and not the Epic 4G touch...
I find the NS/NS4G a cleaner device overall. But if you use a MicroSD with more than 16GB, you should stay with your Epic, because the Nexus does not have a Micro SD slot. I find the Epic 4G's camera better over all, the Nexus cant even record at 720P. The Nexus has an awesome Dev community, will get JB next week, contour display, nfc. If you text a lot, the physical keyboard on the epic 4g might be more comfortable. Overall I think the phones are about the same, they both have they're pro's and con's. Personally, I think you should stick with your epic for just 4 more months, than you'll be able to upgrade above the NS, to something like the Gnex!
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Assuming you're talking about the Epic 4G and not the Epic 4G touch...
I find the NS/NS4G a cleaner device overall. But if you use a MicroSD with more than 16GB, you should stay with your Epic, because the Nexus does not have a Micro SD slot. I find the Epic 4G's camera better over all, the Nexus cant even record at 720P. The Nexus has an awesome Dev community, will get JB next week, contour display, nfc. If you text a lot, the physical keyboard on the epic 4g might be more comfortable. Overall I think the phones are about the same, they both have they're pro's and con's. Personally, I think you should stick with your epic for just 4 more months, than you'll be able to upgrade above the NS, to something like the Gnex!
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yeah i was thinking that about that would it be considered any fun to mess around with just to learn other stuff, and do you think that it'll still be supported because if nothing else comes out ill probably get the S3 though however?
Hopefully, JB will fix the NS4G's radio reception issues. The NS4G has put me off of Sprint forever. I will never return to Sprint once my contract is up.
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Hopefully, JB will fix the NS4G's radio reception issues. The NS4G has put me off of Sprint forever. I will never return to Sprint once my contract is up.
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well all i plan to do is use WiFi only, i don't care for the radio because once i get a newer phone come Nov 1, that will have the service.
As a device to have fun or anything is it worth it or just not really, and stick to the Epic and just use the Epic as a backup once i get a newer phone
Oh,well if you're gonna use a device just for fun, than the Nexus is worth it! Like I said, awesome dev scene, will be JB supported , decent battery, all that for only $100 isnt bad...Much better than getting an ipod touch for wifi-only fun!
If u wanna buy it for fun/play, buy it.
Jb around the corner, and with jb on it, u should sell it easily when time will come.
I just noticed that my earlier post was not too relevant, I do not live in the US so I don't exactly know anything about Sprint etc...
Sorry for the incovenience
andezzat said:
I just noticed that my earlier post was not too relevant, I do not live in the US so I don't exactly know anything about Sprint etc...
Sorry for the incovenience
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Dude you didn't have an earlier post in this thread
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