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I figure this is the best place to ask for advice.
I fell in love with HTC/keyboard phones when I got an unlocked mda (i'm on att) a few years back. They keyboard and ruggedness of the phones (they've outlasted a few drops here and there) had won me over, especially after using an n95 briefly a few years ago. I got an 8525, and now I'm on a tilt (8925). I've always upgraded roms and liked trying new things, so I tried something new about a week ago.
I went the Android (ion) on sd card route, and loved it (but tried to go nand and it never worked correctly). My battery seems to last forever now (where a week ago, before I started using android, my battery was dying at around 6 pm), the speed of everything (the phone dialer seems to be running at light speed compared to winmo) and the touchscreen responds so much better. Even with the occasional freeze and crashes, I haven't gone back to winmo (except on the occasional restart and re-running haret)
It's time for a phone upgrade. I (briefly) had a tp2, but it still felt slow in winmo 6.5. And seeing how android isn't as well developed on it as it is on the kaiser, I'm looking at other options.
I'd like to keep att 3g, and have native android, AND a hardware keyboard. Does this exist? If i gave up a keyboard (though i don't really want to since I text a bit and surf the web a bit as well), are the newer touchscreens good/fast enough? I was looking at the Hero, and the ion/magic (which seem to be almost the same,though I like the price of the ion/magic), but maybe you guys can help me out? I have to go the Ebay route, seeing as how I'm stuck on att for another year (long story short, gave upgrade to family member, who has since screwed me on their end of the bargain) so I guess that's another thing to keep in mind. Help?
Depending on how much you want to spend will Ddepend on your options right now the only official android device for att with a keyboard is the backup nd I personally think it is horrible. You could spend the $529 and get an att Nexus One, which is only touch screen but is fast enough to handle input well. Plus with the many touchscreen keyboards out now it is pretty easy to transition to touchscreen. I just did this whole post using the swype keyboard and it is pretty fast and accurate. if you can hold off then there are gonna be many new handsets comming. Plus flashing new roms for android is highly addictive lol.
I just got the htc hd2 . the device is fantastic. the software blows donkey d....
In my opinion windows mobile 6.5 feels undeveloped . I know i probably havent figured it all out yet but its what i see so far.
So here I sit trying to make the best of this and hoping someone ports android over to the hd2.
thats my two cents.
If you want Android, then the Nexus is Awesome, Fast, Slim, Cool, etc. Try one out at a store to see if it fit's
i was almost ready to switch then i bought an lg expo. it is so sweet and mega fast.
Trust me, on a screen the size of 3.5+, you can type faster on a touchscreen than on a hardware keyboard
Telus Milestone is your best bet. And yes, you will have to buy it from ebay or some unofficial store.
I was a big winmo fan but they are dragging in the upgrade department.
6.5 was a minimal upgrade at best and 7 is limited on the multi-tasking front.
My son has a Motorola Droid and I really like the OS.
I'm headed for a Xperia X10 with a snapdragon processor but only after it comes to the US to support our 3G band.
That could be tomorrow or a year from now knowing SE's inability to get a device to market on time.
I'd really like to go with the nexus with it's seemingly ginormous screen (though everything has a ginormous screen compared to my tilt 1), but the $560 price tag (after taxes on the site) is quite a bit much to stomach.
I might look at the milestone, but I'm a little weary of motorola's quality, the diminutive size of the keyboard, and @ their price i'd rather stick to a touch screen only telus hero or magic.
Maybe I just need to win the lottery or knock over a bank...
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I'd really like to go with the nexus with it's seemingly ginormous screen (though everything has a ginormous screen compared to my tilt 1), but the $560 price tag (after taxes on the site) is quite a bit much to stomach.
I might look at the milestone, but I'm a little weary of motorola's quality, the diminutive size of the keyboard, and @ their price i'd rather stick to a touch screen only telus hero or magic.
Maybe I just need to win the lottery or knock over a bank...
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I'd definitely go with the Nexus (If funds can afford), you think that it is too much now, but it is worth it when you get it (or so I've been told by... everyone).
I would sell my soul for a Nexus One, but I already sold it to Google in exchange for an extra 70mb in Gmail, should've waited
Looks like I'm getting either a HTC Desire or a X10 as wm & ms are starting to annoy me. Android just looks and feels so much better
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Looks like I'm getting either a HTC Desire or a X10 as wm & ms are starting to annoy me. Android just looks and feels so much better
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I switched from longtime wm user to android and have not looked back. It is stable, fast, smooth, cool and fun Good luck
WM for me
I am quite happy with WM6.5.3 on my Rhodium, it does all my business and personal stuff just as I like
But if for some reason I did want to switch from WM definitely 100% sure I´ll look into Android as my first choice
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I am quite happy with WM6.5.3 on my Rhodium, it does all my business and personal stuff just as I like
But if for some reason I did want to switch from WM definitely 100% sure I´ll look into Android as my first choice
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Well, it's either that or iPhone OS/WebOS and we know which website doesn't support those
I've broken down and done it. Tally up one more order for a Google Nexus One with AT&T 3g bands. Now to wait impatiently until it comes in
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I've broken down and done it. Tally up one more order for a Google Nexus One with AT&T 3g bands. Now to wait impatiently until it comes in
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If for some reason that only your god/non-existent being knows the reason why, you do not like the phone.... I'm ready for it
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Well, it's either that or iPhone OS/WebOS and we know which website doesn't support those
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Even if those were supported in XDA my choice wouldn´t change
From what I heard, AT&T's Backflip is ok. It's running Android as well as having a keyboard. The thing is that it's a Motorola. I believe this is Motorola's 2nd Android phone besides the Motorola Cliq (correct me if I'm wrong)
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From what I heard, AT&T's Backflip is ok. It's running Android as well as having a keyboard. The thing is that it's a Motorola. I believe this is Motorola's 2nd Android phone besides the Motorola Cliq (correct me if I'm wrong)
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Then you heard wrong. Not only is the phone running the second worst layer of ui for Android (it runs MotoBlur, the worst is TouchWiz), it does not use Google Search, it can't use apps outside of the market, it's made by Motorola, and it has the weirdest design of a phone I've ever seen.
And I'm pretty sure it is Motorola's 3 or 4, not sure if the Devour came out before it (I know the Droid and Cliq did though).
Crackness, you sound exactly like me when it comes to looking for a phone. I am on AT&T so I want to keep that, I want speed and the hardware keyboard is a must for me, well I have a solution for you : Motorola Backflip
Yes the design is odd, but truthfully once you hold it in your hands, it actually does make sense. True the Backflip is on Android 1.5 because of the MotorBlur but they are coming out with an update soon. Otherwise the phone is amazing. Fast and keyboard is great. Trust me, it is definitely something you should look at.
I love all of these phones but can't decide which one, can anybody help?
I´ll go for Leo
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I´ll go for Leo
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I second that.
Dell streak is tooooooooo big, N900 is tooo old (and a dying os), Leo is the best of your options. But, maybe you are considering other phones like the desire or Nexus One maybe????
Get the Samsung Vibrant(unless u care about front facing camera and flash get EVO). Galaxy S series is the smoothest Android phone in the market.
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Get the Samsung Vibrant(unless u care about front facing camera and flash get EVO). Galaxy S series is the smoothest Android phone in the market.
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Nah, the i9000 is Samsung, remember the others???? I just don't think I'm ready to trust samsung with phones yet, plus the design looks tacky to me. I also hear bad things about the software and limits to custom ROMS....
i am not really intrested in samsung phones tbh (I don't like there visual appearance)
I also don't like the desires look.
And the nexus one is to expensive as i can get these devices for quite a bit cheaper.
less talk, more HD2. $250 on CL right now. If the explosion in Android development recently hasn't proven to you, people who matter love this phone. I haven't seen any phone get this much Android love so fast. Hell some native android phones don't get this much android love. The people we have working on the HD2 are amazing. They went from won't even boot to semi stable in like a week. There doing stuff people predicted 6 months to complete overnight. I'm very excited for the HD2 at the moment and see it living on for many years since all the phones from here out will be new gen locked down iphoney OS's. So HD2 may really be the last of the mohicans.
They recently rooted the phone today. XDA do you think y'all can add it to your data base? It has been reported that they finally rooted it. Now it needs more help for roms and themes and I think xda would be a great help in its process. Please respond.
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Considering what happened with the Droid X and its encrypted/boobytrapped bootloader, i think that a development scene for motorola phones is just not worth it.
not worth it?
if a total newb like me can root, install a custom recovery, flash a new rom, and customize my phone to the max, i think the droid problems are not present in this phone. i am trying myself to learn to dev with android, but until i do, i would love to see a 2.1 (or maybe even 2.2 ) rom for this phone. just because you aren't interested (or able) to develop for this phone, don't mean others won't. i love this site, and i have learned alot from the resources here, but it seems to me they are snubbing one of my current phones. every customization on my HD2 has come from (or i learned to do myself on) this site. even way back to my tmo wing i was learning stuff from this site. but if people feel my phone isnt good enough for this site, well, modmymobile is workin their collective rear ends off tryin to dev for this phone. i know i'm not the most active poster on this site, but thats because newbs are like children, seen and not heard, to some folks on here. well, this isn't the only dev site on the web, as sorry as i would be not to be able to use my first dev site.
Yeah I was thinking the same. Tmobile offered me 3 phones to choose from sence they stop restocking the g1. Moto cliq, moto cliq xt, nokia nuron. That's not a really fair chance from the phone selection which the nokia sucks and the other phones are basicly the same. One has a hard keyboard and the other has a soft keyboard. Plus from what I heard you can't install apps like you can on the g1 because of the security measures. Modmyphone gave a lot of information, if the moto cliq xt picks up further I might end up getting it or wait for my 2 yr contract to finish and get full discount.
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Seriously I would love to c a cliq xt section, Im really disappointed that modmymoto only have like 3 devs working on XT, i spent way too much time here back when i had my g1. There r way too many good devs here who could do wonders w cliq xt.
After all, if cliq xt doesn't pick up on here after a while, section can just b taken down but don't deny cliq's abilities, i would kill to c a Hero sense or froyo tuning on it. I'd assume a good challenge would just attract more devs to work on xt.
Hi Guys,
This is my first thread in the android section cuz I have been a windows mobile user for a long time with my SE xperia x1.
Now i'd like to buy another phone and unfortunately Windows Phone 7 lacks a lot of things so I'll go with an android phone. I think that froyo is really good.
I thought about the SE X10 but it only has android 2.1 and no official update for or no update at all for 2.2 which reflects how hard it'd be to update to any further version.
I also did some reading and found that Android 2.3 is soon to come and its minimum requirements are 1ghz processor and 512mb RAM. and I want to be able to update to it when the update comes out, so i want a phone with these minimum requirements and to currently have android 2.2 froyo on it.
so if u plz guide me to a phone with these specifications and not very expensive i'll be very thankful
T-Mobile's HTC G2 is a good phone, it has stock Android 2.2 and since it's one of Googles phones it should get the 2.3 update fairly quickly. Also Motorola's Droid 2 is stock 2.2 so it will get the update faster than other phones and has a 1ghz processor, and the Nexus One is probably the best Android phone out there.
Thanx for ur reply but sry i forgot to mention that i'm from Egypt and i'm going to get this phone from UAE so unfortunately there's no carrier phones so T-mobile g2 is not an option
An unlocked Nexus One should work over there. Do you're carriers use GSM?
I guess so, but I won't find a nexus one I'm not buying online
Well The Nexus One is the safest card at the moment. It will most likely be upgraded to gingerbread.
So if you can get hold of a nexus one, I think your problem is solved.
Here's something to read...
http://www.brighthand.com/default.a...ingerbread+3.0+Nexus+One+Upgrade+Release+Date
Thanx for your help, Bu I don't Think that the nexus one will be available where I'm buying plus honestly I don't think it looks beautiful either
so is there any other phone to consider??
The update to 2.3 doesn't have to be official but if the phone have the minimum requirements I believe that someone here at XDA will get the update running on it in no time
so any other recommendations ??
EDIT: There's a Probability that the Nexus One might be available so I'd like to know what does it lack among the phones available now cuz it has ben out since Jan 2010 it must be late on something I guess
I dont own one myself , so I cant really tell you anything about its cons or pros or whatever. However its physichal aspects does seems to feel a bit old, compared to HTC desire that is...
Alright, Let's say that I go for the desire
do u think that it'll be getting the 2.3 update either officially or non-officially
one more thing, is there any drawbacks with the desire?
I have no idea when it come to the desire actually.
And no, I personally think desire is the best android handset out yet =)
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Alright, Let's say that I go for the desire
do u think that it'll be getting the 2.3 update either officially or non-officially
one more thing, is there any drawbacks with the desire?
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I think the desire will not get an official 2.3. update.
But the Desire is almost the same as the Nexus One, which will get the 2.3. update, so there probably will be lots of 2.3.-ports for Desire from Nexus One.
I would'nt got for a SE-device, because imho their support is bad (updating on 2.1. when 2.2. already has been released 6 months ago WTF).
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Yes I agree and as they both have practically the same specs, It would be bad marketing if they didnt offer a upgrade to the Desire aswell in my opinion...
Personally I would recommend the Galaxy S because the support is decent, it has a lot of supporters (custom roms, custom kernels, AOSP-ification etc).
Also hardware wise it is superior to anything on the market right now (strongest graphics chip) and the Super AMOLED is something out of this world! you have to see it to believe it.
Optionally you could wait till January for Nexus 2 which is a (?) modified version of galaxy S with gingerbread.
Secondary I could recommend the N900, it's an AWESOME hacking phone, just got USB hosting support (USB drives etc) and it looks like nokia might bring MeeGo to it after all.
But it's early adoption, yada yada, you'll have to take chances and learn some terminal commands and linux (no biggie) and in reward you get to run android, ubuntu palm pre apps (awesome games) at an almost perfect state(meaning phone, uit etc, games run perfect )!
Now what I would not recommend you to get is an iPhone.
The software support is awful, jaibreaking literally breaks the device (gsm etc...), buld quality, you must have read about it and buh-bye widgets flash and customizations.
's a blog about all that stuff, I keep reading and remain astonished...
http://theiphonefever.blogspot.com/2010/05/iphone-4g-screen-multimedia-flop.html
Yes you could buy a n900 and port it with upcoming nitdroid 0.0.9 (android 2.2.1)
But if you were looking to buy a android device in the first place I would not recommend to buy a n900 and port it to android and so on. I mean... gingerbread is soon to come and the NITDroid project is currently on the froyo stageline , in that case you would always be at least 1 year behind.
I wouldn't go for a galaxy S because of the lack of flash for the camera and the looks, I guess it looks kinda cheap and the desire is way better looking but I agree with you the super AMOLED is great.
and the n900 is very low on specs even if it'd boot android it'll be slow and laggy IMO, plus it's a NOKIA and for me this reason is more than enough not to buy it
and off course I wont even consider an iphone these phones r way stupid
I agree with nickownzya about SE phones I was astonished when I knew that the x10 got 2.1 while 2.2 was already out. why would they do that?!!!
so I guess I'll be either buying a desire or a nexus one, good looking, great support, and better hardware.
Thanx for the help guys
Desire and Nexus are cool but otherwise I hate HTC designs. Why do they always have to make that "spotted" back? what's wrong with a smooth finish?
Hard choice anyway, nexus seems to be close to the end of it's "lifetime" and kinda lags on specs HD video etc, but desire has more potential but doesn't have the same support...
Either way I don't agree about the galaxy looking cheap. SO far it's the only device with gorilla glass display (scratch proof so far for me) and it has the sleekest/thinnest shape of them all.
Also it has the strongest video hardware which will keep it from becoming obsolete a while longer than the competition. So far nothing takes full advantage of it though, unfortunately.
When it comes to design, it differs from a person to another. for me this plastic is too much plus it's a fingerprint magnet and I hate that. I would prefer a metal finish, metal buttons or even harder looking plastic with matte black or gray.
U seem to be a big galaxy S fan yourself and I don't hate it but If only they have added flash for the camera and took the whole thing and put it into a better looking body something like the milestone 2 which BTW also has Gorilla Glass display or a SE x10 I'd definitely go for it .
Anyway, Honestly I'd prefer the desire because of the same reason u mentioned .
Then go for desire, you wont be disapointed =)
Samsung galaxy s. You can't get better hardware.
Its not perfect out of the box.
Infact it need little care, but then its great.
I had an iphone4 before i did buy my sgs. Well now i don't have a iphone 4.
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ahmedsalem89 said:
Alright, Let's say that I go for the desire
do u think that it'll be getting the 2.3 update either officially or non-officially
one more thing, is there any drawbacks with the desire?
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We are not Jesus Christ or prophet mahomet....
There is plenty of threads to look for if you want an android phone. As I know... no one here works at google or at HTC ... we don't know nothing about gingerbread and wich one is gonna be updated and when. Google, youtube... make your homework. There's plenty of videos and reviews on the net...
I thought egyptians still use papyrus to communicate... no?
Hey everyone, I had an HD2, loved that it was hacked to the max with a million roms available, and that it was always updated to the newest android almost immedietly, unfortunately the wifi chip died 2 months later and i had to sell it.
Now im looking for a used phone on ebay basically, budget is max 250-300, the samsung vibrant looked good, but im affraid if i buy it ill be stuck on froyo or gingerbread, and not be able to update to android ice cream end of the year (while im sure the HD2 would be hacked to ice cream immedietly lol)
Seeing as the HD2 left a bad taste in my mouth so to speak, which phone would you recomend that has good dev support and most likely to be able to upgrade down the line? thanks
I have the HTC HD7 and I think you'll like it, the OS is AMAZING!!! And I saw it for 280* around Amazon.com
If you want android, but stick to the hTC family, they you should think about the hTC Desire HD. But if it's too expensive, the X10 from Sony will be also a good choice, and I saw it around 270* on Amazon. But the downside of Android is, that it is not sure when you get updates while WP7 (HTC HD7...) is.
Maybe, you should think about the iPhone, that thing has updates. And WP7 is also easy to update.
Since I don't know where you live and if you are a professional hacker or a noob, I just gave you recommendations that should fir almost anybody.
* New, unused price in EUR. Price may change depending on when you buy.
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Of course,
EDIT As the guy abov333 said, The x10 is great too! But its best if you flash the miui rom that just came out for it
it adds multitouch and such stuff.
AND Miui On the desire has OTA updates!! :3
The HD2 is an amazing device,
so many hacks available for it c:
i had one But traded it since the size was a little to big for what i like,
I would for sure check if you can get an new HD2 (i mean used x3)
Or maybe the desire HD
Just as the Desire! I have one its an good size and there are tons of roms
just as CM7 and miui
even a sense 3.0 rom is out!
I would look for those since they will help you to continue with hacking in the future
Moon c:
THanks
thanks guys will check them out
I've had a HD2 for over a year and a half now, and have been using Android on it for nearly half that time. I've also played with WP7 on it, and was utterly disappointed. I loved WM6.5 so I expected a LOT from WP7, but it simply didn't deliver.
The Desire HD is the closest thing to a HD2 out there, but is obviously a native Android device. Android does get updated regularly (especially if you're a regular on this site), as I'm sure you know. Seriously, no disrespect to Tuskuno's opinion - I just disagree with it.
I'm just about to get a Samsung Galaxy S II on contract, but if I were going for an off-the-shelf stock phone, it would probably be the Desire HD.
You can't go wrong with getting a Nexus. A Nexus One is like $260 on ebay and has a great development community along with frequent updates because it's a google experience.
Nexus
That was my first choice, then I read about how its not truely multitouch and is problamatic in multitouch games, so i decided against it.
the desire Z (tmobile g2) looks like a viable option, priced around 200 on ebay
If you want to have the latest version of android in your phone, i suggest you pick one supported by Cyanogen. I dont have enought posts yet to include links, but there's a relevant list over at "cyanogenmod dot com slash devices".
its simple just go for the EU version of the Samsung Galaxy S.
sounds good
would love to but its too out of my budget, cant spend a dime over 300
Dude believe me and just stick with the hd2 a lot of development space towork with plus u get the best of three words wp7, wm, Android. The hd7 is virtually the same thing as the hd2 with there old school screens but the hd7 lacks development at the moment.
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Dude believe me and just stick with the hd2 a lot of development space towork with plus u get the best of three words wp7, wm, Android. The hd7 is virtually the same thing as the hd2 with there old school screens but the hd7 lacks development at the moment.
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Have to second that.
Until something as good as the HD2 comes along, I can't think what I'll go for next.