Multitasking look alike??? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys.. i was playing with my WP7-HD2 and found that when you press the back button when on home screen it goes to all you recent apps you opened or edited before....Keep pressing the back button will go further more back! I Think this is because when i wanted to exit an app i pressed the start button(to go to Home screen instantly) and not the back button; so it stays in memory/or recording your steps you did before!
Cool...I didn't knew that!!!

Ok sorry guys...Any mod to transfer this topic into the below one? thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10678521#post10678521

arkatis said:
Hey guys.. i was playing with my WP7-HD2 and found that when you press the back button when on home screen it goes to all you recent apps you opened or edited before....Keep pressing the back button will go further more back! I Think this is because when i wanted to exit an app i pressed the start button(to go to Home screen instantly) and not the back button; so it stays in memory/or recording your steps you did before!
Cool...I didn't knew that!!!
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Yes, it's somewhat multitasking, well I would like to get some tiles, about programs I closed or visited recently, but back button is better than nothing :]

arkatis said:
Hey guys.. i was playing with my WP7-HD2 and found that when you press the back button when on home screen it goes to all you recent apps you opened or edited before....Keep pressing the back button will go further more back! I Think this is because when i wanted to exit an app i pressed the start button(to go to Home screen instantly) and not the back button; so it stays in memory/or recording your steps you did before!
Cool...I didn't knew that!!!
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Yep, that's why MS decided not to implement 'real' multitasking as what they have done replaces 90% of what multitasking is used for on a phone.
All they need to do is force developers to implement this tombstoning and allow audio to be implemented as a background service.

The problem with this is that applications unload their assets. When you go back into an app or game, it has to load everything back up.

Current solution is idiotic in many cases.
When I'm on Facebook and want to reply to sms, after going BACK everything has to be loaded again. This applies to many situations and is ridiculous basically.
So the current solution replaces about 30% of what is needed on todays smartphone.

doministry said:
Current solution is idiotic in many cases.
When I'm on Facebook and want to reply to sms, after going BACK everything has to be loaded again. This applies to many situations and is ridiculous basically.
So the current solution replaces about 30% of what is needed on todays smartphone.
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I will live with it! No worries...But i kinda like it though... MS WP7 developers lags out of ideas at the moment! (or from way back)

Yeah, unfortunately it's mainly a developer prolem.
Very few are actually implementing the things that makes WP7 really useful:
Push Notifications, App Tombstoning and Live Tiles.
I hope we see more work done on these aspects in the future.

Jonno2343 said:
I hope we see more work done on these aspects in the future.
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Hope so mate.. But if we doesn't.....For sure we are going to find Epic works here!

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with does power off equal hide all apps

I'd really like to be able to put my device to sleep, without having to background whatever app I'm using.
It's very strange. I don't think I've seen another phone that doesn't have a separate power button, from the exit this app button.
Any ideas?
Hmm.
No one has any idea?
I know that riddled throughout this board there are probably a half a dozen apps to turn off your phone, and activate the keylock. Does anyone have any suggestions for some good ones, that I could then assign to the "hold and run" button on the left of the Treo?
Ones that work with WM6?
I'm really surprised that other people don't even seem to want or care about this. The only real advantage of WM6 over PalmOS .. to me... are things like multitasking.
What good is a phone that won't let you keep an app on the screen? Why would I want to constantly have to bring apps to the front again and again and again? I want to be able to turn off my phone, turn it on.. make an entry in an app, and turn it off again, all without opening and closing the app.
Gee.. how strange!
WM devices are 'Today' screen based, hence it automatically switch back to Today screen after a set period of time. You can't change this 'habbit', but you can prolong the period of time.
Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Today -> Items -> Today timeout
hanmin said:
WM devices are 'Today' screen based, hence it automatically switch back to Today screen after a set period of time. You can't change this 'habbit', but you can prolong the period of time.
Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Today -> Items -> Today timeout
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This has nothing to do with what I'm asking about, but it is helpful info. However, my today option has the ability to turn off the today timeout altogether. Perhaps it is WM6 based?
Regardless, I'm talking.. again.. about the screen off button of the treo.. that is also the exit button, that is also the end call button.
BRad Barnett said:
This has nothing to do with what I'm asking about, but it is helpful info. However, my today option has the ability to turn off the today timeout altogether. Perhaps it is WM6 based?
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Lets quote what you have said above. "What good is a phone that won't let you keep an app on the screen? Why would I want to constantly have to bring apps to the front again and again and again? I want to be able to turn off my phone, turn it on.. make an entry in an app, and turn it off again, all without opening and closing the app."
If you turn off the timeout, the last app will stay when you switch off your phone (e.g. the Today will not appear and sending your app background).
If this REALLY doesnt have NOTHING to do with what you are asking for, I surrender and good luck on your quest.
hanmin said:
Lets quote what you have said above. "What good is a phone that won't let you keep an app on the screen? Why would I want to constantly have to bring apps to the front again and again and again? I want to be able to turn off my phone, turn it on.. make an entry in an app, and turn it off again, all without opening and closing the app."
If you turn off the timeout, the last app will stay when you switch off your phone (e.g. the Today will not appear and sending your app background).
If this REALLY doesnt have NOTHING to do with what you are asking for, I surrender and good luck on your quest.
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I had two separate posts above, and of course they are related in this thread. Context, my man. My first post clearly talks about how my issue is with the power button, and how my issue has to do with the power button forcing you back to the today screen before it will let you power off the unit.
Fair enough, you missed my first post, and only read my second post in this same thread. No harm done.
I am also mystified why the power button constantly forces screen back to Home....I would think this is a real pain for most people??
Any fixes/hacks?
TIA
To do what you want, there's an usefull application: AE Button Plus (http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php) This small applicacion allows you to remap buttons. To switch off the screen what I've done is assign the action "switch off device"
Thast's all
Way off topic... but you wouldn't happen to be the Brad Barnett from The Mustang Source forums, would you?
Flapjack said:
Way off topic... but you wouldn't happen to be the Brad Barnett from The Mustang Source forums, would you?
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No! And I have nothing to do with Kurt Cobain either!
JmJ17 said:
To do what you want, there's an usefull application: AE Button Plus (http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php) This small applicacion allows you to remap buttons. To switch off the screen what I've done is assign the action "switch off device"
Thast's all
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Back on topic.....
I tried AEBP but this only seems to "Switch Display On/Off" during a phone call, NOT when in an application.
I don't see a "Switch Off Device" option. Did I miss something?
MS
mercury66 said:
Back on topic.....
I tried AEBP but this only seems to "Switch Display On/Off" during a phone call, NOT when in an application.
I don't see a "Switch Off Device" option. Did I miss something?
MS
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I found "Power off" (I think it was called that) in the list of options to assign to a button. I assigned it to "hold side button", one click. My device now shuts off when I hold that button in.
Thanks to the dude that suggested this! Now to see how it affects my device...

Close current running app and go to home menu

Hi all,
I am looking for the following function:
when pressing the home button, close current app and go to the home screen. When pressing long on the home button, go to the home screen (not closing the app in front)
Any ideas/suggestions?
Tnx
oh the xphrone style home button i see
yes it would be great and I want something like this too.
hopefully some devs can do this but it wont be easy since it is not easy tho replace the home button to another shortcut as it directly hits the system file without detouring. (correct me if im wrong, or this looks confusing cause im half asleep)
cheers
ClementNg23 said:
oh the xphrone style home button i see
yes it would be great and I want something like this too.
hopefully some devs can do this but it wont be easy since it is not easy tho replace the home button to another shortcut as it directly hits the system file without detouring. (correct me if im wrong, or this looks confusing cause im half asleep)
cheers
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Well, I don't know the xphrone, but it is something like the iPhone that I mean. The reason is that I open a lot of apps, and always go to the home screen. This means that a lot of apps are open?
So this needs a continuously checking of tasks running. So if you could close the app while going home, this should not be any worries.
I know a lot of people will now say, that the multitasking is gone this way, but if you want an app to stay open, you can still do it by long pressing the home button

[Q] Search key annoyances

Hello all:
I have been experiencing a particularly vexing problem with my captivate. At random intervals, the search interface displays on the screen without any of the buttons on the bottom of the phone being pressed. This seems to be particularly true when holding the phone in landscape (playing Angry Birds). My hand is nowhere near the end of the phone with the buttons, so I don't understand how this can be happening.
Any advice/help that can be offered will be appreciated.
T
Happens on mine every now and then too, usually when I'm driving and the officer is mounted on the windshield, so my hands are no where near it.
I've seen other posts about it. I don't think there's any fix except a replacement.
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Officer = phone. Oh swype.
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capacitive button problem. I have it too but on the menu key. Rare but very annoying. Perhaps its dust?
There are quite a few people complaining about it.
even my search key gives this issue.....isnt there a way to disable that key..??i rarely use it....
btw, wouldnt it be cool if the search key was changed to a camera key for takin pictures.....its way lot easier than focusing and clicking by tapping on the screen...
neo_31591 said:
even my search key gives this issue.....isnt there a way to disable that key..??i rarely use it....
btw, wouldnt it be cool if the search key was changed to a camera key for takin pictures.....its way lot easier than focusing and clicking by tapping on the screen...
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Hmm, if yours has the problem, it would be rather detrimental to performance if you were to map it to camera shutter, wouldnt it?
Thanks to all. I had searched but hadn't seen anyone that had the same problem (time to brush up on my search skills?). I will consider a replacement, because it really sucks when I have a perfect shot in Angry Birds and the search interface comes up.
T
My original Captivate had a problem where the Home button would get "stuck".
The phone would start buzzing and going to the Home screen violently and over and over again.
I got it exchanged.
Probably a similar issue.
Yep, same problem here. Although I haven't seen it happen since I went back to stock and did the OTA update through Kies.
Not sure if that actually is why it's not happening though.
you can edit the Melfas-touchkey.kl file and disable the search key
system/usr/keylayout/Melfas-touchkey.kl
neo_31591 said:
even my search key gives this issue.....isnt there a way to disable that key..??i rarely use it....
btw, wouldnt it be cool if the search key was changed to a camera key for takin pictures.....its way lot easier than focusing and clicking by tapping on the screen...
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i could not get the camera to work when i tried, but may give it another shot.
impulsek2 said:
you can edit the Melfas-touchkey.kl file and disable the search key
system/usr/keylayout/Melfas-touchkey.kl
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You can do better than that; you can assign it to the CAMERA, just replace the text SEARCH with CAMERA in that file and reboot. I tried it, it works, and pressing the key while in camera mode takes the picture! It's quite nice actually. Long press for voice search no longer works, however.

[Q] How to properly quit apps?

Hello everyone,
I bought a HOX yesterday and broke up with my iPhone. Two words: awesome phone.
Anyway, I am a little confused about how the multitasking works. For example if I am done with an app, say the default radio app, how to a quit it properly? So it doesn't hog ram. Though I also read something here on the forums that you shouldn't quit apps since it doesn't matter if they are running or not to the ram.
So I thought, well okay I'll stop caring about that. Then I tested the Navigation app, set it to navigate to nearest BK and then quit it (using the "home" btn). 3 minutes later I hear from my pocket "Turn left". wtf?
So yeah, when I unlocked the hox I saw the GPS icon up to the left, meaning that it was still running. I can't find a quit option?
A little side question too:
Is there any app I really really should download now because it will make my phone so much better/longer battery life/faster? (Not ROMs, I'll wait with that)
All help appreciated, since I am a noob
toxicious said:
Hello everyone,
I bought a HOX yesterday and broke up with my iPhone. Two words: awesome phone.
Anyway, I am a little confused about how the multitasking works. For example if I am done with an app, say the default radio app, how to a quit it properly? So it doesn't hog ram. Though I also read something here on the forums that you shouldn't quit apps since it doesn't matter if they are running or not to the ram.
So I thought, well okay I'll stop caring about that. Then I tested the Navigation app, set it to navigate to nearest BK and then quit it (using the "home" btn). 3 minutes later I hear from my pocket "Turn left". wtf?
So yeah, when I unlocked the hox I saw the GPS icon up to the left, meaning that it was still running. I can't find a quit option?
A little side question too:
Is there any app I really really should download now because it will make my phone so much better/longer battery life/faster? (Not ROMs, I'll wait with that)
All help appreciated, since I am a noob
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quiting apps is easy just click on the exit or x button if available and if there is no exit button or icon just keep on pressing the back keys. As for your gps you can turn it off in the phone settings or if its on android just pull down the notification and there is an options there to turn gps on and off. You can also download task killer to instantly kill running apps though others doesnt recommend it but it is useful in a way.
well gps navigation have usualy EXIT/QUIT button. And if they dont have it, press BACK button (in the Main Menu) few times and it askes you if you really want to quit the navigation or something like that. Navigon has definitelly one of those options.
The back button is The preferred method to quit an applicatiin. You can also use task manager. I am also parted way with my iPhone 4. I am now happy on my heavily mod GS3.
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What I meant when I said "Navigation app" is Google Navigation, the built in one It doesn't have a main menu or an exit button
toxicious said:
What I meant when I said "Navigation app" is Google Navigation, the built in one It doesn't have a main menu or an exit button
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I believe the best way to quit an app is by continuosly pressing the back key until it gets to the home screen, or the app will give a prompt saying "are you sure you would like to quit?"
Otherwise, its just jamming the back button
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yeah i usually just use the back button or if there's a menu where i can click quit to make sure
Lol I must be blind. Found the menu now, little button down to the right.
It also worked mashing the back button
Thx everyone!

[Q] Alternative ways to turn screen off on L

Alright so running the leaked L build that our lord and savior @digitalhigh n ole' piratety Cap'n Throwback managed to get running on our devices but have one thing that is really bothering me. Screen. Off. My power button has for ages been messed up and weak to the click and well It's truly horrid to press and I used to always have 'hold back key to turn screen off' but well I don't anymore. Xposed is gone, my one true love...how can I replace her...how can I get over her beauty and learn to let her go and potentially even replace her?
My heart is with you Xposed!! But we must go our separate paths! - A very sad Shadow
( @Captain_Throwback lol )
Incase anyone managed to misunderstand my sad love story I'll skip to the point, is there any alternative ways to avoid pressing power button to turn screen off? For instance double tap status bar to sleep or holding back button to power off (both required Xposed 'I THINK', keyword "I THINK").
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Alright so running the leaked L build that our lord and savior @digitalhigh n ole' piratety Cap'n Throwback managed to get running on our devices but have one thing that is really bothering me. Screen. Off. My power button has for ages been messed up and weak to the click and well It's truly horrid to press and I used to always have 'hold back key to turn screen off' but well I don't anymore. Xposed is gone, my one true love...how can I replace her...how can I get over her beauty and learn to let her go and potentially even replace her?
My heart is with you Xposed!! But we must go our separate paths! - A very sad Shadow
( @Captain_Throwback lol )
Incase anyone managed to misunderstand my sad love story I'll skip to the point, is there any alternative ways to avoid pressing power button to turn screen off? For instance double tap status bar to sleep or holding back button to power off (both required Xposed 'I THINK', keyword "I THINK").
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I ran 5.0 for a short time but ended up switching back to Sinless before I could check. On many devices going back to and including the T-Bolt (EDIT: I was searching for the same thing back then because of the same reason), I used an app from the play store called Screen Off and Lock and I personally use the donate version and always had it tied in with the "search" feature (either a physical button or drag up from the navbar without buttons). One (big) reason for me to switch back is not having Xposed.
bb1981 said:
I ran 5.0 for a short time but ended up switching back to Sinless before I could check. On many devices going back to and including the T-Bolt (EDIT: I was searching for the same thing back then because of the same reason), I used an app from the play store called Screen Off and Lock and I personally use the donate version and always had it tied in with the "search" feature (either a physical button or drag up from the navbar without buttons). One (big) reason for me to switch back is not having Xposed.
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That app is good enough, as long as I don't have to press the power button xD. Thanks! I'll check out the donate version in a second as from the looks of it the free one only has the option of tapping the icon to turn screen off but oh well.
EDIT: NVM
For anyone else who sees this thread feel free to leave more options if you have any! More options the better.
No problem and I couldn't remember the difference between the versions. EDIT: There should be 2 different icons in the launcher, one being the app itself to turn the screen off (?) and one just for the configuration unless it's set up differently on the free one.

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