I'd really like to be able to put my device to sleep, without having to background whatever app I'm using.
It's very strange. I don't think I've seen another phone that doesn't have a separate power button, from the exit this app button.
Any ideas?
Hmm.
No one has any idea?
I know that riddled throughout this board there are probably a half a dozen apps to turn off your phone, and activate the keylock. Does anyone have any suggestions for some good ones, that I could then assign to the "hold and run" button on the left of the Treo?
Ones that work with WM6?
I'm really surprised that other people don't even seem to want or care about this. The only real advantage of WM6 over PalmOS .. to me... are things like multitasking.
What good is a phone that won't let you keep an app on the screen? Why would I want to constantly have to bring apps to the front again and again and again? I want to be able to turn off my phone, turn it on.. make an entry in an app, and turn it off again, all without opening and closing the app.
Gee.. how strange!
WM devices are 'Today' screen based, hence it automatically switch back to Today screen after a set period of time. You can't change this 'habbit', but you can prolong the period of time.
Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Today -> Items -> Today timeout
hanmin said:
WM devices are 'Today' screen based, hence it automatically switch back to Today screen after a set period of time. You can't change this 'habbit', but you can prolong the period of time.
Start -> Settings -> Personal -> Today -> Items -> Today timeout
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This has nothing to do with what I'm asking about, but it is helpful info. However, my today option has the ability to turn off the today timeout altogether. Perhaps it is WM6 based?
Regardless, I'm talking.. again.. about the screen off button of the treo.. that is also the exit button, that is also the end call button.
BRad Barnett said:
This has nothing to do with what I'm asking about, but it is helpful info. However, my today option has the ability to turn off the today timeout altogether. Perhaps it is WM6 based?
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Lets quote what you have said above. "What good is a phone that won't let you keep an app on the screen? Why would I want to constantly have to bring apps to the front again and again and again? I want to be able to turn off my phone, turn it on.. make an entry in an app, and turn it off again, all without opening and closing the app."
If you turn off the timeout, the last app will stay when you switch off your phone (e.g. the Today will not appear and sending your app background).
If this REALLY doesnt have NOTHING to do with what you are asking for, I surrender and good luck on your quest.
hanmin said:
Lets quote what you have said above. "What good is a phone that won't let you keep an app on the screen? Why would I want to constantly have to bring apps to the front again and again and again? I want to be able to turn off my phone, turn it on.. make an entry in an app, and turn it off again, all without opening and closing the app."
If you turn off the timeout, the last app will stay when you switch off your phone (e.g. the Today will not appear and sending your app background).
If this REALLY doesnt have NOTHING to do with what you are asking for, I surrender and good luck on your quest.
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I had two separate posts above, and of course they are related in this thread. Context, my man. My first post clearly talks about how my issue is with the power button, and how my issue has to do with the power button forcing you back to the today screen before it will let you power off the unit.
Fair enough, you missed my first post, and only read my second post in this same thread. No harm done.
I am also mystified why the power button constantly forces screen back to Home....I would think this is a real pain for most people??
Any fixes/hacks?
TIA
To do what you want, there's an usefull application: AE Button Plus (http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php) This small applicacion allows you to remap buttons. To switch off the screen what I've done is assign the action "switch off device"
Thast's all
Way off topic... but you wouldn't happen to be the Brad Barnett from The Mustang Source forums, would you?
Flapjack said:
Way off topic... but you wouldn't happen to be the Brad Barnett from The Mustang Source forums, would you?
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No! And I have nothing to do with Kurt Cobain either!
JmJ17 said:
To do what you want, there's an usefull application: AE Button Plus (http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php) This small applicacion allows you to remap buttons. To switch off the screen what I've done is assign the action "switch off device"
Thast's all
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Back on topic.....
I tried AEBP but this only seems to "Switch Display On/Off" during a phone call, NOT when in an application.
I don't see a "Switch Off Device" option. Did I miss something?
MS
mercury66 said:
Back on topic.....
I tried AEBP but this only seems to "Switch Display On/Off" during a phone call, NOT when in an application.
I don't see a "Switch Off Device" option. Did I miss something?
MS
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I found "Power off" (I think it was called that) in the list of options to assign to a button. I assigned it to "hold side button", one click. My device now shuts off when I hold that button in.
Thanks to the dude that suggested this! Now to see how it affects my device...
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Folks, any idea how to switch off the screen / lock the keyboard without the need of double press the red power button?
This is kind of bothering cause when you're in a application and need quickly to put your Treo into your pocket, you need to press 1st to get to the home-screen and 2nd to switch off.
Yeah, seems to be something new with the 750 (no other treo before did this). Palm set this up purposely, so I wouldn't assume there's a workaround for it. You'll get used to double clicking
Not that I know
I have used it for ages and found many shortcuts but no "quick lock".
Sorry
How about getting an application that device locks your phone upon return from standby? I use BatteryStatus Today Plugin by Chi Tai Dang.. This plugin has the option to lock device on wakeup and set cpu speed(I use this a lot)..
But mine's a wizard, what do I know about Treo.. but what I do now is, press the power button to get the phone to go into standby and when I want to use it again, I press the power button and it will device lock upon wake up.
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V
vijay555 said:
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V
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"Device lock" that you may know of isn't used on Treo's. Palm uses their own "keyguard," which uses the red END button as a power button when not on the phone. If you are on the today screen, one click will shut the device off. However, if you are in another program, the first tap brings you to the today screen, and the second click turns the screen off (and the keyguard on if you have selected it to be that way). On all other treo's, WM or POS, one click of the end button would shut the screen off (unless you were on the phone obviously, it would be the END function), regardless of what program you were in. Palm changed this, I assume, to be like most cell phones, where when you press the END key it returns to the home screen, regardless of what you were doing. Like a RAZR would do.
Thats the best way I can explain it. You would be surprised Vijay on how many customizations Palm made to the OS.
Yes, I've heard that they did - thank Goodness one of the OEMs finally saw fit to do something original.
Hmm.. from what you describe, clicking twice doesn't seem like a very big chore... I did something similar in VJOkButt. Is it really necessary to convert the 2 clicks to 1 click? Investigating it barely seems worth the effort
V
I agree, hence my original post.
When you are on the today screen, it works normally. And you can double-click quite rapidly and it will work. Not a big deal for me.
yes guys, its not that dramatical, but still, it would be an improvement also considering that I want to stay in that one application (a note which I'm editing) and want to get there after waking up the device again without the need of again starting application, look for the last note, opening etc...
with HTC hermes and others the power button works exactly like this and its even better.
Hi all,
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
But you need an odd-shaped hand to do that one handed!
It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
mackangus said:
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
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On my device, that method doesn't close the app. It just locks the keyboard and then powers off. When I power on again, the app is still running and on screen. I think that's what fire00 was looking for.
pjcace said:
It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
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Sorry PJC ACE, my mis-type - using option + red button powers the device off WITHOUT closing the app - just like the power button on the Wizard ;-)
My apologies!
GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
fire00 said:
GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
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Option (hold)+Red Phone button is a nice alternative, but I'd really like to find a way to prevent the Red Phone from reverting to the Today screen, so I can power off directly with it with one press...Vodafone's excuse for specifically asking for it this way (every other phone's "End" button brings you back to the "home" screen) is ridiculous, these aren't like every other phone.
I installed HTC home plugin and now my red button wont let me go into standby. I uninstalled and still not working. Any ideas?
Side Button + Suspend
There is a thread at TreoCentral that explaines how to activate the side button and make it available for button assignment in the settings screen.
Second there is a small program called suspend.
I have mapped the 1 press of the side button to suspend and away we go.
1 - Click keyguards/screen off.
Also it resume in the place or program you left when you unlock it.
Regards
Hi all,
Sorry for the cross-post, but I just realized that this is probably the best forum for my question..
I normally don't carry a watch, so I look at my TC to get the time. I would like this funtionality mapped to one of the hardware buttons:
Wakeup the display and show a big clock for a second or two, then turn off the display again. (Preferably, the device should still be locked throughout this.)
Is there any similar software?
Thank's in advance!
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hi
i have an x7500 and i use the app called slide 2 unlock. that's the iphone program developed for ppcs. what happens is when i press the power button, the screen comes alive and the 2 most prominent features on the screen are the time (large display) and the slide to unlock the device. i then press the power button again or i leave it to power down on it's own. the same thing happens when a call comes through. i have a bt headset and the screen comes alive. but no app can be launched because the slide 2 unlock button will in fact lock the screen. the only way to unlock it is by unlocking it using the slider.
other's in the forum could have other apps as well. but so far that works for me.
just my 2 cents
Thank you very much, Robson!
Based on your description, I'll keep looking for something that will not interfere when a call comes. Thank's anyway, though!
Anyone else with any ideas?
simpan said:
Thank you very much, Robson!
Based on your description, I'll keep looking for something that will not interfere when a call comes. Thank's anyway, though!
Anyone else with any ideas?
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You can disable the phone options in S2U2 if you want
Thank's, DocteurN! That's pretty close, except if set to 5secs it will turn off the phone after five all the time, not just when Ive pressed the power-button to get the time. Nearly there..
SPB Mobile Shell does this with its now screen. OR SPB Time can do it with its screensaver !
Both must haves anyway imho !
Dave
Thank you dmj1973! I'm trying with the SPB apps now.
The SPB apps are great but there is no keylock, as far as I can see..?
Basically, from sleep mode, I just want to push a button to see the today screen or at least the time for a second or two, without unlocking the device.
Which is exactly what I do with S2U2 - I press the power button, glance at the time, then hit it again... Perfect!
Hi,
Is it posible to disable backlight dimming in WM6?
I don't want to send the device go to standby, just turn off it's backlight, let me give you an example:
In WM5, where backlight dimming was not implemented yet, i was using this:
Sleep mode settings: both disabled,
Backlight: both enabled (battery and external),
Device lock enabled on today screen.
This way i could 'wake' the device just by tapping on the screen or on any button, and the next step being unlocking it. The battery consumption in this mode is almost the same as with using standby mode. And another big benefit was much more stability in the OS and other applications because the system was never going into real standby. And of corse wifi and other things could remain on while in this 'standby' mode. Also, imagine using S2U2 in this mode...
But.. this scenario is no more posbile in WM6, because backlight does not go off anymore, but instead it dimms, leading to a fast battery consumption.
Moreover, device lock function become useless.
Someone sugested ScreenOff (or blackme) /and ScreenOn. Leaving alone that this would be a 'manual' solution, you can't tap on screen after using screenoff because screen is completely off, not only the backlight, and tapping does nothing.
This topic was first opened in Developement section and is now closed, but if you want to read it, here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447663
thnx alot for your help
Bump to keep this thread alive because I would really rather my phone working like that and have locking being actually useful. Because what's the point of locking your phone when it's gonna power off by itself anyway?
Hope people can come up with a solution soon. Maybe a registry edit to make the dim go to 0%.
laocheebye said:
Bump to keep this thread alive because I would really rather my phone working like that and have locking being actually useful. Because what's the point of locking your phone when it's gonna power off by itself anyway?
Hope people can come up with a solution soon. Maybe a registry edit to make the dim go to 0%.
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thnx for support
I agree we need to get rid of dimming. Because that way S2U2 or any other lock program make no sense. I must first turn on the device then unlock. So locking is not needed because device is turned off.
I believe we should wake up microsoft to make a patch or an update or something about it.
If a general poll be posted i believe all the wm users would like - want this feature.
and maybe the admins as the xda community could declare our statement to microsoft.
What do you think?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3006798&posted=1#post3006798
thnx for the pool, the results seem favorable to us,
i was thinking, wm 6.5 will be out next year, maybe we are lucky and this will be fixed in it..?
I use S2U2 and I have it set to 'blank screen only' after 10 seconds. This means that by running s2u2.exe (which is mapped to a long press on a hardware button) it leaves the device locked with the screen off, but not suspended.
jez83uk said:
I use S2U2 and I have it set to 'blank screen only' after 10 seconds. This means that by running s2u2.exe (which is mapped to a long press on a hardware button) it leaves the device locked with the screen off, but not suspended.
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please, explain me how do you have set s2u2 exactly?
for me not works.
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
Thanks
picarddontoro said:
please, explain me how do you have set s2u2 exactly?
for me not works.
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
Thanks
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In the s2u2 settings, in the battery power section, 'Power Off in' is set to 10seconds, and 'but Blank Screen only' is set to ON.
I've assigned s2u2.exe to a hardware button using 'spb pocket plus', although if you want a free package which does that, you'll have to search around.
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and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
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Here's the info :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783616#post1783616
Hey all,
First, I'd like to say that so far the Touch Pro 2 is freaking awesome, but It's been doing something since I got it that is driving me up the wall;
So, say I'm in gsplayer or Opera, and for whatever reason, the screen turns off ( I hit the power button, it times out for power conservation, whatever... ). Whenever I turn the screen back on, the Clock in Touch Flow 3D shows up. GAH >_<
Is there any way to just open the phone back up to what I was looking at when the screen turned off? Help me XDA-Developers, you're my only hope!
-AceSmythe
update:
I went to the home configuration and disabled TouchFlo 3D , and it doesn't revert to the home screen when I reset
Does anyone know how to tell TouchFlo 3D to not re-assert itself every time I turn the screen on? I didn't see anything obvious in the registery
Thanks,
AceSmythe
I have a Touch Diamond 2 and i don't have this problem..
When i just hit the power button to turn the screen off, and 1 minute later when i turn it back on, everything is still the same as i left it. All the programs are still opened.
Maybe you hit the right 'hang up' key?? Because when you press it you go back to the homescreen
I'm pretty sure I know the difference between the power button at the top of the device and the hang up button near the bottom, thanks.
Anyone around who actually has a Touch Pro 2?
I have this issue with my Blackstone, using Duttys 3.9.
I have seen this issue before and as far as i have found out there is no soution to this. The only thing that could help is turning off the Msofts LOCK app. Unfortunately mine is on due to exchange security policy.
If your lock is not on, then im afraid i dont know
timmymarsh said:
... The only thing that could help is turning off the Msofts LOCK app. Unfortunately mine is on due to exchange security policy...
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What does that app do and how would I turn it off?
I also went into the registry and disabled the Home tab for TouchFlo 3D, but the issue persists
( registry entry HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\Configuration\0\Enable , set to 0 )
To any who are curious, this appears to be a viable method of removing Home, Programs, and Settings from the TouchFlo 3D tabs. On my device, 0 is Home, 2 is Programs, and 12 is settings
On another note that's completely unrelated, don't install the SRSwow control panel if you don't have drivers/hardware for it. It completely crippled the speakers and mic on the phone, and Voice Command ( voicecommand.exe ) freaked out whenever I tried to start it. Luckily, removing the software through Start -> Settings -> System -> Remove Programs and doing a full reset fixed everything
( above 2 paragraphs included for people Googling either issue )
Anyway, back to the home screen thing... any other thoughts?
-AceSmythe
acesmythe said:
What does that app do and how would I turn it off?
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If you are using the lock app (which locks the screen) you can turn it off/on by going to (on my HD) settings/all settings/personal/lock and disable it if enabled.
It may not help you, but is a known issue regarding this particular problem.
Greetz.
Have you unchecked the today timeout?
Go to Settings/Personal/Today/Items and make sure it's unchecked.
dwizzy130
dwizzy130 said:
Have you unchecked the today timeout?
Go to Settings/Personal/Today/Items and make sure it's unchecked.
dwizzy130
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Yes and makes no difference, but cheers for the idea.
Yeah, that was the first thing I tried aswell
** Warning **
Do not install the TouchFlo Detacher, it WILL break TouchFlo on your system
See http://freewareppc.com/utilities/touchflodetacher.shtml , then avoid it like the plauge
-AceSmythe
Sorry for the lateness of this post, after a full wipe and reinstall of everything ( after the TouchFlo 3D disaster mentioned above ) the home screen does not assert itself anymore. Per suggestion, I did not enable the lock. I'd test turning on the lock and off again, but I don't want to push my luck
Thanks one and all
-AceSmythe
Mod Edit : No probelms, but no need for the final comment, so I have removed it
Now what would really solve this if you could check the registery to find the key responsible. I will have a look at mine in depth but i fear i will not find it.
Cheers.
acesmythe said:
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Thanks one and all
-AceSmythe
Mod Edit : No probelms, but no need for the final comment, so I have removed it
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I thought the "final comment" was worth a mention, it /was/ kind of insulting
timmymarsh said:
Now what would really solve this if you could check the registery to find the key responsible. I will have a look at mine in depth but i fear i will not find it.
Cheers.
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I've been all up and down that thing and either I'm just ignorant of some term that I should be looking for or there's just no entry for it
Maybe someone could write an app to fix it or a replacement locking app
-AceSmythe
Anyone else share my enthusiasm for this feature, the 'phone goes to sleep while I'm on a call and I can't do anything unless I hit the power button and hang up' trick! This is my favorite. Works great in conference calls with your boss and clients who are bidding on multi-million dollar contracts! Need to check an email while on the conference call? Can't. Want to answer another call? Can't. Want to turn the speakerphone off because your 4 year old comes running into your home office? Can't. I'm not sure if it's a Sense Fail or Google Fail but it's a major f'ing fail in my book. Hopefully it's just me being an idiot and missing a setting, but the phone comes out of the box doing this. Still a fail.
Pretty sure its a YOU fail. Works fine here dude. I check emails, text, look up map directions while on the phone. What 'battery saver' apps do you have running?
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You probably configured to use power button to end the call (that option should never existed, IMO). So, that means you can't access other phone features without hand up the call.
IIRC, out of box, power button is not configured to hand up the call for this exact reason. You probably enabled it.
When Android goes into sleep (or turn off the screen), only power button can wake it up. So configure power button to end the call is nothing but ask for trouble.
Pirateghost said:
Pretty sure its a YOU fail. Works fine here dude. I check emails, text, look up map directions while on the phone. What 'battery saver' apps do you have running?
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None. I can do all of those things as well, while the phone is on, but talking for more than 2 minutes (which is what I have set under Display and Gestures/Sleep) and the screen goes to sleep. Nothing brings it out except the power button. I've only had it for 4 days, I'm trying to keep it 'native' until I figure everything out.
tomviolence said:
None. I can do all of those things as well, while the phone is on, but talking for more than 2 minutes (which is what I have set under Display and Gestures/Sleep) and the screen goes to sleep. Nothing brings it out except the power button. I've only had it for 4 days, I'm trying to keep it 'native' until I figure everything out.
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Read Foxbat's post and verify you didn't turn on the 'power button end call' feature
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foxbat121 said:
You probably configured to use power button to end the call (that option should never existed, IMO). So, that means you can't access other phone features without hand up the call.
IIRC, out of box, power button is not configured to hand up the call for this exact reason. You probably enabled it.
When Android goes into sleep (or turn off the screen), only power button can wake it up. So configure power button to end the call is nothing but ask for trouble.
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You put me onto the correct path, there is an option under Accessibility for 'Power Button ends call'. By default it is on. As for the wake from sleep, I can't find that one.
tomviolence said:
You put me onto the correct path, there is an option under Accessibility for 'Power Button ends call'. By default it is on.
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Turn it off and your problem solved.
As for the wake from sleep, I can't find that one.
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There isn't one. Only power button can wake the screen.
Also, you can flip the phone over while on the call to automatically turn on speaker phone. Flip back, it will automatically turn off speaker phone. Quite handy if you do meetings a lot. It is configurable in call settings. This is HTC only feature that can't be found on other brands.