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Single press device Lock

Folks, any idea how to switch off the screen / lock the keyboard without the need of double press the red power button?
This is kind of bothering cause when you're in a application and need quickly to put your Treo into your pocket, you need to press 1st to get to the home-screen and 2nd to switch off.

Yeah, seems to be something new with the 750 (no other treo before did this). Palm set this up purposely, so I wouldn't assume there's a workaround for it. You'll get used to double clicking

Not that I know
I have used it for ages and found many shortcuts but no "quick lock".
Sorry

How about getting an application that device locks your phone upon return from standby? I use BatteryStatus Today Plugin by Chi Tai Dang.. This plugin has the option to lock device on wakeup and set cpu speed(I use this a lot)..
But mine's a wizard, what do I know about Treo.. but what I do now is, press the power button to get the phone to go into standby and when I want to use it again, I press the power button and it will device lock upon wake up.

I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V

vijay555 said:
I don't have a Treo. How do you initiate said keyboard lock normally?
V
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"Device lock" that you may know of isn't used on Treo's. Palm uses their own "keyguard," which uses the red END button as a power button when not on the phone. If you are on the today screen, one click will shut the device off. However, if you are in another program, the first tap brings you to the today screen, and the second click turns the screen off (and the keyguard on if you have selected it to be that way). On all other treo's, WM or POS, one click of the end button would shut the screen off (unless you were on the phone obviously, it would be the END function), regardless of what program you were in. Palm changed this, I assume, to be like most cell phones, where when you press the END key it returns to the home screen, regardless of what you were doing. Like a RAZR would do.
Thats the best way I can explain it. You would be surprised Vijay on how many customizations Palm made to the OS.

Yes, I've heard that they did - thank Goodness one of the OEMs finally saw fit to do something original.
Hmm.. from what you describe, clicking twice doesn't seem like a very big chore... I did something similar in VJOkButt. Is it really necessary to convert the 2 clicks to 1 click? Investigating it barely seems worth the effort
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I agree, hence my original post.
When you are on the today screen, it works normally. And you can double-click quite rapidly and it will work. Not a big deal for me.

yes guys, its not that dramatical, but still, it would be an improvement also considering that I want to stay in that one application (a note which I'm editing) and want to get there after waking up the device again without the need of again starting application, look for the last note, opening etc...
with HTC hermes and others the power button works exactly like this and its even better.

Hi all,
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
But you need an odd-shaped hand to do that one handed!

It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.

mackangus said:
If you're using it two handed hold option (the white key, left hand end of row 3) and press the red button once - closes the app and powers off.
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On my device, that method doesn't close the app. It just locks the keyboard and then powers off. When I power on again, the app is still running and on screen. I think that's what fire00 was looking for.

pjcace said:
It is not that the double click isn't easy to do, it's waht fire00 said; if you are in an app, it closes it and then powers off. Case in point, this weekend while driving to a friend's house, I had directions in my email and would have liked to have turned off the phone, but then I would have to find the email again and open it up. On my Wizard, i would just turn it off and then back on and the email would be there for me.
Gotta be a reg hack for someone to find.
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Sorry PJC ACE, my mis-type - using option + red button powers the device off WITHOUT closing the app - just like the power button on the Wizard ;-)
My apologies!

GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))

fire00 said:
GUYS YOU'RE ABSOLUTE TREO-EXPERTS !!!!!
thanks a lot, going to dance with the Treo cause I'm so haaapyyy !! )))
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Option (hold)+Red Phone button is a nice alternative, but I'd really like to find a way to prevent the Red Phone from reverting to the Today screen, so I can power off directly with it with one press...Vodafone's excuse for specifically asking for it this way (every other phone's "End" button brings you back to the "home" screen) is ridiculous, these aren't like every other phone.

I installed HTC home plugin and now my red button wont let me go into standby. I uninstalled and still not working. Any ideas?

Side Button + Suspend
There is a thread at TreoCentral that explaines how to activate the side button and make it available for button assignment in the settings screen.
Second there is a small program called suspend.
I have mapped the 1 press of the side button to suspend and away we go.
1 - Click keyguards/screen off.
Also it resume in the place or program you left when you unlock it.
Regards

Slide2Unlock Replacement

I am in love with the functionality of Slide2Unlock but it seems to eat memory like crazy and cause weird issues on every ROM I have used (WizardG3).
Does anyone have a locking application that requires pressing the power button to activate the screen and then hold the d-pad for a second to unlock?
I can't always be tapping the screen with my finger or taking the time to get the stylus out.

Hi Xoom, sorry I want to ask you a question instead answering your question.
You asked, "Does anyone have a locking application that requires pressing the power button to activate the screen and then hold the d-pad for a second to unlock?"
Does it mean using Slide2Unlock, I could wake the phone from standby only by tapping the screen, without pressing any button?
Thanks.

Hi
Which version of S2U you are referring to? Version 1 or 2? V.2 now only occupy 1MB of RAM.

MDCT said:
Hi Xoom, sorry I want to ask you a question instead answering your question.
You asked, "Does anyone have a locking application that requires pressing the power button to activate the screen and then hold the d-pad for a second to unlock?"
Does it mean using Slide2Unlock, I could wake the phone from standby only by tapping the screen, without pressing any button?
Thanks.
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Currently with slide2unlock (v2) Using the D-Pad you can unlock the phone or you can use the slider on the touch screen, both to bring the phone into an unlocked state (displaying the today screen)
I notice it runs with 1mb of memory. Maybe it's just a scapegoat along with Voicecommand running at 1mb but something is killing the performance on my phone and having it lock up all the time.
I think I just need a new/custom version of wm6.

Xoom said:
Currently with slide2unlock (v2) Using the D-Pad you can unlock the phone or you can use the slider on the touch screen, both to bring the phone into an unlocked state (displaying the today screen)
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But can it wake the phone from standby (screen completely off) only using the touchscreen?

MDCT said:
But can it wake the phone from standby (screen completely off) only using the touchscreen?
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No, Sorry for the confusion, I have to push the power button then use the d-pad or touch screen to unlock. If it were possible, I don't think I would like that solution, I figure the phone would be getting "touched" in my pocket all the time.

Xoom said:
I don't think I would like that solution, I figure the phone would be getting "touched" in my pocket all the time.
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I was thinking maybe only parts of the screen that is "touchable", so it's not always getting "touched" and would save some batt. And even if it's being "touched", it's still locked and it won't do any unwanted action... at least.
I guess, I'm getting paranoid with the button. But someone's confirming it:
"Naturally I set it to the power button, but after a while, that button got worn down and stopped "working" so I naturally set it to recognize any other button.
This experience has taught me the hard way, that its a good choice to have (or maybe even a necessity in some cases) that other buttons to wake the unit up in case of situations like this."
Taken from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315329
I know we could remap the button, however, it is still pushing the button. Eventually, it could wear the button off.

Su2u has a sweet config app translated to most languages, and has a lots of config options, look into that..

Getting rid of WM6 backlight dimming?

Hi,
Is it posible to disable backlight dimming in WM6?
I don't want to send the device go to standby, just turn off it's backlight, let me give you an example:
In WM5, where backlight dimming was not implemented yet, i was using this:
Sleep mode settings: both disabled,
Backlight: both enabled (battery and external),
Device lock enabled on today screen.
This way i could 'wake' the device just by tapping on the screen or on any button, and the next step being unlocking it. The battery consumption in this mode is almost the same as with using standby mode. And another big benefit was much more stability in the OS and other applications because the system was never going into real standby. And of corse wifi and other things could remain on while in this 'standby' mode. Also, imagine using S2U2 in this mode...
But.. this scenario is no more posbile in WM6, because backlight does not go off anymore, but instead it dimms, leading to a fast battery consumption.
Moreover, device lock function become useless.
Someone sugested ScreenOff (or blackme) /and ScreenOn. Leaving alone that this would be a 'manual' solution, you can't tap on screen after using screenoff because screen is completely off, not only the backlight, and tapping does nothing.
This topic was first opened in Developement section and is now closed, but if you want to read it, here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447663
thnx alot for your help

Bump to keep this thread alive because I would really rather my phone working like that and have locking being actually useful. Because what's the point of locking your phone when it's gonna power off by itself anyway?
Hope people can come up with a solution soon. Maybe a registry edit to make the dim go to 0%.

laocheebye said:
Bump to keep this thread alive because I would really rather my phone working like that and have locking being actually useful. Because what's the point of locking your phone when it's gonna power off by itself anyway?
Hope people can come up with a solution soon. Maybe a registry edit to make the dim go to 0%.
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thnx for support

I agree we need to get rid of dimming. Because that way S2U2 or any other lock program make no sense. I must first turn on the device then unlock. So locking is not needed because device is turned off.

I believe we should wake up microsoft to make a patch or an update or something about it.
If a general poll be posted i believe all the wm users would like - want this feature.
and maybe the admins as the xda community could declare our statement to microsoft.
What do you think?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3006798&posted=1#post3006798

thnx for the pool, the results seem favorable to us,
i was thinking, wm 6.5 will be out next year, maybe we are lucky and this will be fixed in it..?

I use S2U2 and I have it set to 'blank screen only' after 10 seconds. This means that by running s2u2.exe (which is mapped to a long press on a hardware button) it leaves the device locked with the screen off, but not suspended.

jez83uk said:
I use S2U2 and I have it set to 'blank screen only' after 10 seconds. This means that by running s2u2.exe (which is mapped to a long press on a hardware button) it leaves the device locked with the screen off, but not suspended.
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please, explain me how do you have set s2u2 exactly?
for me not works.
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
Thanks

picarddontoro said:
please, explain me how do you have set s2u2 exactly?
for me not works.
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
Thanks
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In the s2u2 settings, in the battery power section, 'Power Off in' is set to 10seconds, and 'but Blank Screen only' is set to ON.
I've assigned s2u2.exe to a hardware button using 'spb pocket plus', although if you want a free package which does that, you'll have to search around.

picarddontoro said:
and how do you have mapped s2u2 to long press hardware button?
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Here's the info :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783616#post1783616

One button ONLY to wake up/unlock

Is there a program so that when your screen is locked, you can assign one button only to wake your screen and have access to the unlock slider? Now, if any of the 4 hard buttons are pressed, it brings up the unlock screen. The problem is, when the phone is in my pocket, any one of the 4 buttons, if accidentally pressed, wakes up the screen. Then of course, I hear my phone in my pocket clicking because the heat from my leg is "tapping" the screen. I just want to have the right hard button wake the phone up.
I cant find an option in the settings for this, nor any threads that discuss it.
Thanks.

I really admire you if you're able to slide the slider with the phone in your pocket.

LOL. No, I dont slide it. Just that when in my pocket, when any one of the 4 hard buttons are pressed(accidentally), i have to press the power button to lock the screen again. A pain in the butt. I what the phone to have only one hard button, not 4, that will shut off the screen when the phone is locked.

I'd like it too.
Maybe even some old school unlocking shortcut that uses hardware key combination (e.g. Home + Vol Down), rather than slide.

The Diamond, or was it the HD, had a button on the top to wake the phone up. That was nice because it was hard to accidentally press that button when it was in your pocket.

I use pocketshield for automatically unlocking my phone when the light sensor senses light coming in. An added benefit for this is that when the phone is in my pocket and I accidentally press any button, the screen will automatically shut itself off again after 10 seconds since there is no incoming light. This tool has really made my life so much easier as it gets rid of the stupid slider thing as well; you can use the lightsensor, the motion sensor and an old school sliding mechanism to unlock your phone- brilliant stuff!

Iarapilot might have meant something else indeed. Most of WM6.1-WM6.5 have a tab in the Start->Settings->Buttons screen that allows you to choose which kind of wake-up you need: waking up by pressing the Pw-ON button or waking up pressing whatever button you want. Sudden power-on is very boring, even thought you can't make your device work as you need to slide the screen. But this is a power comsuption anyway and I wonder why previous version had this chance regardless the home screen features. I do want it!!
I think it's a matter of regkeys, somebody of us who's used to "playing" with regkeys should figure out how this feature could be resumed.
Hope you help us!!

Maybe I didnt make my point very well. I just would like to have only the R hardware key, when pressed, wake up the screen so as to be able to slide to unlock. Not 4 buttons, that when any of those are pressed, wake up the screen.

I also have the problem, I only want to have only one key to wake up not other key
Please help us

Since it's free, I add myself to the request queue Having the screen wake up only on powerbutton press could be useful to reduce to 25% the probabilityof screen turning on by accident when buttons are pressed inside the pocket. Battery saver for sure.

Same here. I've been looking for this since I first got the phone! My old kaiser could do this, surely it wouldn't be too hard to implement on the HD2?

edit: nevermind, posted in the wrong thread

I don't think any software can control that as key presses send electrical signals direct to the chip/power unit, where the "power on" circuits reside. What software can do is turn it off again if not unlocked within a specific amount of time, so battery is saved. Screen touches shouldn't be an issue either if using a lock screen.

les_paulde said:
I use pocketshield for automatically unlocking my phone when the light sensor senses light coming in. An added benefit for this is that when the phone is in my pocket and I accidentally press any button, the screen will automatically shut itself off again after 10 seconds since there is no incoming light. This tool has really made my life so much easier as it gets rid of the stupid slider thing as well; you can use the lightsensor, the motion sensor and an old school sliding mechanism to unlock your phone- brilliant stuff!
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and doesnt create any problem in normal use? u ask because if u are in call and let some other app start while talk (maybe with earphones) its quietly impossible use portrait mode because left hand always cover light sensor and screen shut down.. its the same with that app?

Did someone already found a solution? I would like such a option too. wake up only by centerbutton for instance....

Lock Screen during calls

Greetings all.
Does anyone know of a good way of locking the screen while making a phone call? I've tried proximity sensor, which does not work on my phone. I currently have my time out setting at 15 seconds, but that does not work either. Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm sick of face dialing/hanging up.

Proximity sensor does not work at all for me, either. I have been begging and begging people on the forum to help come up with a way to remove or disable the huge "End call" button, as I am constantly hanging up on people with my face.
It is the number one suckiest thing about my Hero right now.

oh, i am looking for this kind of software but found nothing

Probably one of the best "answer/hang up" functions I saw was with SIPdroid. Slide up to answer, slide down to hang up. Of course, the data service is not good enough to always use that though.....

I put the notification bar down down, but it seems almost buggy, sometimes the notification bar stays down and sometimes it just moves up by itself again.

Hit the home button to get out of the dialer window...

Nanan00 said:
Hit the home button to get out of the dialer window...
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And, then, enjoy the vibrations as you move your homescreen icons around with your face.
Why is there so much resistance to figuring out how to either lock the screen during a call or just disable or remove the stupid soft "End call" button?
Is it significantly more difficult than changing the button color or creating a ROM?

doojer said:
And, then, enjoy the vibrations as you move your homescreen icons around with your face.
Why is there so much resistance to figuring out how to either lock the screen during a call or just disable or remove the stupid soft "End call" button?
Is it significantly more difficult than changing the button color or creating a ROM?
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Home button is cool if you happen to only touch the end call button and never anything else. I personally called a friend and sent 4 blank texts to someone, don't ask me how....
Home button will cause as many problems. Notification bar coming down is the best way I've found....

an even better way. hold the menu button down.
the keyboard is a great shield.

Avalaunchmods said:
an even better way. hold the menu button down.
the keyboard is a great shield.
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I will try that one. Seems like it could work, thanks.

Well, google is my friend, i don't know why I doubted ye...
Screen Suite does it for me. The app is $1.99, but it has a setting where it automatically locks the screen on calls.

A bluetooth headset negates that problem completely......

muppetman462 said:
Well, google is my friend, i don't know why I doubted ye...
Screen Suite does it for me. The app is $1.99, but it has a setting where it automatically locks the screen on calls.
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How do you like it? I found it and it seemed kind of bloated with a lot of features I don't need. Does it eat up memory/power?
I am interested....

I don't get why you guys are having so many issues with this, my phone screen locks at the default of 30s when in calls, it has done this as long as I have had the phone.

Nanan00 said:
I don't get why you guys are having so many issues with this, my phone screen locks at the default of 30s when in calls, it has done this as long as I have had the phone.
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Mine usually does. Unless it thinks I'm pressing things with my face, which keeps it awake.
That is... if my face doesn't end the call by the time the 30 seconds is up. My guess? It's probably the shape of our faces?

I just try to hold the bottom part of the screen away from my face. Once the screen turns off I've never hung up on someone.

mrcharlesiv said:
I just try to hold the bottom part of the screen away from my face. Once the screen turns off I've never hung up on someone.
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I do this too. It's very annoying.

Avalaunchmods said:
an even better way. hold the menu button down.
the keyboard is a great shield.
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Hmm another good one! Any keyboard presses do anything nasty? I'm on swype but I wonder if hitting the mic button on the hacked keyboard would do anything annoying.
Thanks for the tip!

My main problem is when my wife calls, and wants to talk to my son. His face is a lot smaller, and well, everything get screwed up when he uses the phone. As for the program, it does have a lot of features, but all I did was have it set to auto-lock on phone calls. I still have my default vanilla lock screen.

Lack of a both a proximity sensor and dedicated screen-off button is this phone's single unforgivable flaw.
I will never again buy a touchscreen device without at least one of these.