I was considering posting this in the Q/A thread, but its not really a question about how installing roms work.
I was wondering if there were any 2.2 Blur roms, like the motoblur on the droid 2 and droid x? It's an updated, froyo toned down nicer looking blur. Are there any G1 roms like that? Can't find one... thanks in advance! I currently have Froyo For Trout, best rom ever, but I wanted a taste of blur for awhile. Any help?
MotoBlur is like the plague for most 99% of the people here.
That's just how it is.
I know, I hate MotoBlur too but the MotoBlur on the Droid X and Droid 2 seems nice, I want to try it out. It's very scaled down and streamlined.
Oh, and is the Motoblur on droid x and droid 2 a specifically made motoblur for those phones, or just a stock 2.2 motoblur?
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I know, I hate MotoBlur too but the MotoBlur on the Droid X and Droid 2 seems nice, I want to try it out. It's very scaled down and streamlined.
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The last motoblur rom was the one by jester. That was back in the 1.5 days.
The g1 is just too far behind hardware wise to pull of motoblur.
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The last motoblur rom was the one by jester. That was back in the 1.5 days.
The g1 is just too far behind hardware wise to pull of motoblur.
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Are you sure? I'm sure I've seen 2.1 roms
Oh God no.... why would you want MotoBarf :S
The "motoblur" on the droid x and droid 2 isn't really that disgusting ugly motoblur...its a lot different and I wanna try it out. I hate motoblur as much as the next guy, but this is pretty slick and nice
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The "motoblur" on the droid x and droid 2 isn't really that disgusting ugly motoblur...its a lot different and I wanna try it out. I hate motoblur as much as the next guy, but this is pretty slick and nice
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i have a droid x motoblur sux ass ,, its the one reason i wish i didnt get the phone ,, ididnt really know what it was lol but now i wish i was due for a upgrade
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i have a droid x motoblur sux ass ,, its the one reason i wish i didnt get the phone ,, ididnt really know what it was lol but now i wish i was due for a upgrade
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It does? It looks so nice though :0 Oh well... I don't want a plain froyo rom or sense or old motoblur so i guess i'm outta luck :|
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It does? It looks so nice though :0 Oh well... I don't want a plain froyo rom or sense or old motoblur so i guess i'm outta luck :|
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Blur looks nice but that doesn't mean it functions ok
The G1 can't handle 2.2 blur, plus the droid(s) have much higher res+"very" different hardware that would make the roms harder to port than a rom from a htc based phone.
I'm the owner of the first phone to come with MotoBlur, the Motorola Cliq. Because of Motoblur, we got repeated delays for an update to 2.1, causes many phones to overheat, and made this phone very slow. Wouldn't recommend it on G1.
Also to point out: I've rooted and updated roms for 3 different friends who all had motoblur phones (Cliq, Backflip, and Cliq XT [yes, I know it's a different type of motoblur]) all their phones where going very slow and battery life was a drain (I made a punny lol)
Many of the roms on their development forums (I had to go to modmymobile.com cause those freaks of nature aren't supported here on XDA) where just attempts to get rid of motoblur, and guess what: battery life improves to around 2-3x, their phones where no long going so slow.
BUT: I'm sure somebody can make a mock theme to make it look it.
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Also to point out: I've rooted and updated roms for 3 different friends who all had motoblur phones (Cliq, Backflip, and Cliq XT [yes, I know it's a different type of motoblur]) all their phones where going very slow and battery life was a drain (I made a punny lol)
Many of the roms on their development forums (I had to go to modmymobile.com cause those freaks of nature aren't supported here on XDA) where just attempts to get rid of motoblur, and guess what: battery life improves to around 2-3x, their phones where no long going so slow.
BUT: I'm sure somebody can make a mock theme to make it look it.
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Ah, thats a good idea! I just want that theme. I like the look of the homescreen.
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i may be getting an epic tomorrow but im debating it atm. i don't see alot of roms for this device, not even stock android ones. the biggest drawback for me is no apps2sd. i cannot live without it. as far as roms go i can develop some for us, ive made several hero roms before. but is there any development on apps2sd or do we have to wait for the froyo update?
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i may be getting an epic tomorrow but im debating it atm. i don't see alot of roms for this device, not even stock android ones. the biggest drawback for me is no apps2sd. i cannot live without it. as far as roms go i can develop some for us, ive made several hero roms before. but is there any development on apps2sd or do we have to wait for the froyo update?
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Is apps2sd really a big deal for u? The epic has more internal mem than the hero so u won't run. Out as quick. I switched from hero with cm6 and I had to use apps2sd on hero, but I haven't been able to use all of the epics internal mem. Idk how many apps u got so if u got even enuff to use up the epic mem then I understand ur concern, but I really doubt anyone needs that much.
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Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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Thats true but the overall experience is better on Epic. If Epic 2.1 stock feels faster then EVO 2.2 stock then you have to wonder how fast this sucker is going to be in 2.2. Plus everybody is just waiting for 2.2 since whats the point putting some much effort of a software version thats hardly going to be used when 2.2 comes out. Is there still 2.1 development for Android phones that received 2.2, i seriously doubt it.
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Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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Epic screen is sooooo much better than evo and it really is way faster. Plus. I think a lot of development is overrated...all I'm looking for is that one good rom to stick with..I get tired of switching all the time. Just my opinion.
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Is apps2sd really a big deal for u?
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yes, yes it is. the development for this phone really lacks.
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Dont, get an Evo. More devs, more ROMs, more customizing.
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i might but the evo is going on 6 months old now so im doubtful ill get one.
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i might but the evo is going on 6 months old now so im doubtful ill get one.
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Didnt you get a Pre after the Hero? Seriously, go Evo.
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Didnt you get a Pre after the Hero? Seriously, go Evo.
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yeah and my pre basically smokes the hero as im running at 1ghz..
i dunno what ill do yet, my upgrade is due tomorrow. knowing my luck ill buy the evo and the development will cease.
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i may be getting an epic tomorrow but im debating it atm. i don't see alot of roms for this device, not even stock android ones. the biggest drawback for me is no apps2sd. i cannot live without it. as far as roms go i can develop some for us, ive made several hero roms before. but is there any development on apps2sd or do we have to wait for the froyo update?
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Yeah bro you need froyo..but just be patient the word is froyo for epic sometime in nov. I'm coming from an evo and yes I'm dissapointed about the dev community or lack there of for the epic but even with that and the epic running 2.1 I'm still glad I switched from the evo..so pick it up its a great phone
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yeah and my pre basically smokes the hero as im running at 1ghz..
i dunno what ill do yet, my upgrade is due tomorrow. knowing my luck ill buy the evo and the development will cease.
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Lol, I dont think so. Even if it ceases, there plenty to go around.
There is no incentive to develop for the Epic 4g at this point. The instant the phone was released it was made public knowledge that 2.2 was coming to it, and the closer that date comes the less people want to invest in tweaking 2.1.
App2sd is a cool feature and all, but I don't see a need at this point. I have a ridiculous number of apps installed and I still have a hundred MB free on the internal storage. I use maybe about 40% of the apps I have installed regularly and about 30% of what I have installed I never use. Maybe when Android starts getting better games ported over from iOS or developed natively on the platform, the need will arise.
And get whatever phone you want frankly. The epic is better than the Evo, and I am not saying that because I own one. If you are willing to make roms and help develop, I am not too sure why you are concerned about the lack of development on the phone. Isn't that something that regular users should be worried about?
I honestly wouldn't recommend the EVO to anyone... it was the worst phone I've ever used.
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Yeah bro you need froyo..but just be patient the word is froyo for epic sometime in nov. I'm coming from an evo and yes I'm dissapointed about the dev community or lack there of for the epic but even with that and the epic running 2.1 I'm still glad I switched from the evo..so pick it up its a great phone
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+1 same thing happened with me. I was with the evo for a week it just felt like a bigger hero honestly... epic is amazing.. go for epic you won't be disappointed.. you always have that 30 day return guarantee..
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There is really no point for Apps2sd at all. What are you saving all that internal mem for? And just because there are more roms out doesnt mean thats a good thing. Coming from a G1 I hated that there were so many damn roms to choose from, and they all had the same basic ish cept maybe a few of them were themed up differently.
The Evo is basically turning into a iPhone IMO, and im sick of the users swearing up and down that THAT phone is basically the best in the biz...FALSE. The epic suits me more for what I need which is basically gaming, movies, and partial business. All the Evo has to go on is .3" of screen and a processor that not nearly as powerful as the epics and for that matter SENSE UI IS ****ING UGLY *shudders*
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LMAO, I just love our small community. We dont need 50 differrent roms and become a clusterfuck like the other sub forums. We need to support each other
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Why does everyone want a stock android rom, I thought the point of these different phones was to be different
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All the Evo has to go on is .3" of screen and a processor that not nearly as powerful as the epics and for that matter SENSE UI IS ****ING UGLY *shudders*
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I wouldn't go that far. The Evo has a few advantages over the Epic and the epic has a few advantages over the evo. For one, the evo has a larger screen, and even though its only .3 inches, its VERY noticeable. Also, somehow even though they have a larger screen, the screen uses less battery than our epic's. Also, they have a kickstand which is pretty damn sweet.
I chose the Epic because of the Super AMOLED, which I THOUGHT was super battery efficient and also a brilliant display (1/2 aint bad), the amazing processor and the dedicated GPU. HTC makes amazing phones, and the EVO's build quality is higher than the Epic's, but they ALWAYS shortchange their phones by ignoring the graphics department. Every smartphone I have purchased has been an HTC device, and on EVERY SINGLE one they have had no hardware accelerated graphics, which has always become an issue.
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Had an evo for nearly 90 days. Had froyo. Had every cm6 nightly. Had cm6 rc1.
Miss cm6. Miss froyo. But am loving the epic so much more than the evo.
Better battery life, better screen, physical keyboard, better stability.
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I honestly wouldn't recommend the EVO to anyone... it was the worst phone I've ever used.
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reasons? im leaning towards the evo because it's alot cheaper than the epic.
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There is really no point for Apps2sd at all.
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yes there is, the more free ram you have, the faster your phone runs. apps2sd is a godsend.
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There is really no point for Apps2sd at all. What are you saving all that internal mem for?
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I look forward to the day that you are forced to eat those words.
I want to get myself a Motorola XT720 because I like a lot of stuff about it. One thing I don't like though, is that Motorola has ditched this and it's stuck at 2.1. Currently, development is in progress for 2.2 (porting from the motoroi) in the XT720 forum here and it looks hopeful. Whatever the case though, it will likely never go beyond 2.2.
Now 2.2. adds a lot over 2.1 so having that would be great. 2.3 I don't see a need for as much as 2.2. The question is, if I'm getting a device that I want to keep around for a while, how bad is it if it's stuck at 2.2? Is it recommended that I avoid that phone (it's combination of price+features are why I want it) at all costs, or is being stuck at 2.2. not that bad?
What do you think?
2.1 wasn't bad itself and 2.2 brings some noticable improvements but not a paradigm shift. 2.3 seems to be mostly graphical changes more than anything else so you wouldn't be missing out on much here. Being 'stuck' on 2.2 is in no way a bad thing as it's still the best platform experience that i've had yet in a smartphone.
Personally, one thing i look for when choosing a smartphone is the level of community support and popularity of the device so that official updates are less of a concern down the line.
for me upgrading from 2.1 to 2.2 was a big leap forward especially concerning my batterylifetime and 2.3 look is awesome.
but if you are happy with your current version don't change it.
Yes, for me it was speed. 2.2 really was amazing the difference in speed improvement/
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Yes, for me it was speed. 2.2 really was amazing the difference in speed improvement/
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I agree, I recently put on the Cyanogenmod 6 port to my Milestone and its such a huge difference.
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I agree, I recently put on the Cyanogenmod 6 port to my Milestone and its such a huge difference.
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Cyanogen works with the Milestone XT720 or are you talking about different milestone?
It seems some apps wont work in the 2.3 Rom, so just wait and see
I am not sure what to think about the improtance of updates.... In my limited experience with Android, so far I really cannot tell any difference before or after an update.
(I am speaking of official updates, not app updates from the market).........
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Cyanogen works with the Milestone XT720 or are you talking about different milestone?
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he is talking about the telus milestone, more commonly referred to as the droid 1
How do you guys like your new thunderbolt, is it better then your rooted droid 1.2ghz custom rom switching beast?
Sell me please cause i think its time i should get a new phone, this one looks promising but i need some help from you guys.
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How do you guys like your new thunderbolt, is it better then your rooted droid 1.2ghz custom rom switching beast?
Sell me please cause i think its time i should get a new phone, this one looks promising but i need some help from you guys.
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*raises hand*
Blows my OG droid out of the water. The Droid 1 is severely lacking RAM and internal memory department for modern versions of android and apps. Overclocking into the stratosphere an an ARM7 architecture chip will only get you so far...
Yes the thunderbolt is miles away better than the OG droid,
I came from a rooted Droid. Last ROM on the Droid was Peter Alfonso's gingerbread ROMS.
As great as the OG Droid was, it doesn't hold a candle to the Thunderbolt. Fast doesn't even cover the speed of this phone and if you live in an area with 4G it's hard to conceive Internet as fast as VZ 4G
Also, coming from stock Android, I was pleasantly surprised by Sense and how easy it is to customize. I might be in thee minority, but I like the HTC messaging app/widgets so much, I don't even use Handcent anymore.
Also, the screen is nothing short of beautiful and responsive. I like my Thunderbolt more and more everyday. When we finally get Skype I will be over the moon.
I did and am loving it. It's so much faster and having a lot of RAM really gets you far. Also, I've been pretty impressed by Sense.
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I Had an OG Droid for a bit (Among other phones) , Thunderbolt faster/Better gaming/ Front Camera/ Bigger Screen/ 4g/ the List goes on...
i love my og droid, but im not looking back. the thunderbolt is a beast and i'm very happy with it...even without the keyboard I thought I'd miss so much...only gonna use the droid if I get rid of the TB while I wait for something newer..
I'm coming from a rooted OC'd to 1.25GHz OG Droid. The Droid was a great phone and I had lots of fun with it... but the low amount of memory was starting to cause issues.
The Thunderbolt is immeasurably faster. Everything is smooth and everything just happens instantly. No redraw issues ... the home screen just loads up right when I hit the home button.
I thought sense was pretty neat when I first got the phone, but I'm happy to have root so that I can get an AOSP ROM on this thing as soon as they start coming out. Maybe you'll be the same, maybe not. But you do have the choice
My recommendation: Get it on a one year contract. Tons of exciting things happening in the near future with phones. Next year we'll (maybe) have quad core phones with high DPI screens and better battery life.
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I'm coming from a rooted OC'd to 1.25GHz OG Droid. The Droid was a great phone and I had lots of fun with it... but the low amount of memory was starting to cause issues.
The Thunderbolt is immeasurably faster. Everything is smooth and everything just happens instantly. No redraw issues ... the home screen just loads up right when I hit the home button.
I thought sense was pretty neat when I first got the phone, but I'm happy to have root so that I can get an AOSP ROM on this thing as soon as they start coming out. Maybe you'll be the same, maybe not. But you do have the choice
My recommendation: Get it on a one year contract. Tons of exciting things happening in the near future with phones. Next year we'll (maybe) have quad core phones with high DPI screens and better battery life.
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Thats what i think i'm going to do, and yes im going to root... I played with the phone and sense, its okay. But i'm going to remove it and have a nice stock feel as to when i got my droid, then its time for the fun.
Is the process of rooting easy? any one clicks now?
I came from an OG Droid... and all I can say is WOW!! this phones is awesome!
as for rooting, its really not that bad, there are some easy root methods you can find on here, and there is a very strong development community already behind this phone.
Coming from rooted OC'd etc etc etc OG droid to TB and wow the difference in looks and performance is so much better.
Also just OC'd the TB to 1516Mhz. Amazing I tell ya.
This picture alone should sell you on the Thunderbolt vs the Droid.
Aside from the obvious gains from the processor/ram the screen and just the all around feel of the phone is amazing compared to the D1. You will not regret this purchase. <-- that statement comes from a consistent buyers remorse victim.
Came from an OG Droid running Sapphire. It treated me well, but the hardware on the TBolt just blows it out of the water. Now if we only had some AOSP goodness lol.
My two-cents: I agree with everyone regarding the huge performance increase of TB. It's also a much sexier device than Droid. However, I am NOT digging Sense. It's mostly not the launcher itself, but its invasion of apps that were fine (nay, wonderful) before, but whose Sense version suck (calendar, dialer, music, clock, sms/mms...). My Droid has CM7 RC3 on it and I really miss the more vanilla feel. There's also a TON of bloat on the phone and looking at the running task list makes me want to puke a little. Battery life is obv. a huge change too.
TL;DR: performance is a huge improvement, I hate Sense and am anxiously waiting for a working CM7 ROM. Oh, and there's the 4G, which is amazing.
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Is the process of rooting easy? any one clicks now?
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I tried the easy method mentioned in Android Central, and didn't have much success with it, and ended up using the manual method using ADB. It wasn't too painful, and as long as you're careful and verify the MD5s when performing the root, it's not that scary.
I'm sure in due time easier methods will come about, but until easy/one click root methods are cleaned up a bit, I'd recommend getting some ADB-fu
As for my initial impressions of the TB, all I can say is...
Flippin awesome. I was getting to the point of trying to tweak some sysctl variables in the OG Droid to squeeze some additional performance out of it. (ADD quickly negated that little 'project'). 4G LTE is smokin' fast, as is the actual phone. ADW EX works like a dream too. My only gripe is swype doesn't play well with SMS.
I didn't come directly from an OG Droid, I had a Droid X. When I was on my D1 I ran Bugless Beast and Chevy kernels.
Peter Alfonso ftw
Coming from a rooted/oc'd droid and I'm more than happy. That think was a boat anchor. I'm also glad to ditch the keyboard.
As for Sense, at first I really hated it, but with debloat roms I've really started to like it.
I came from an OG Droid OC'd to 1 ghz running CM7 nightlies with compcache and swapper2. I was having huge memory issues with that build (obviously) which is why I opted for the TB rather than the upcoming Bionic (768 mb vs. 512 mb).
So far, I love this thing. It's fast, has a huge screen and a blossoming developer community. Not to mention Verizon's 4G is probably the greatest thing that has happened to smart phones in a long time.
Also, the phones (OG Droid and TB) weigh about the same despite the size difference
The whole reason why I got this phone was that I was hoping the Optimus 2X UI would be ported to the G2X.
Is there any news on this so far? I really liked the O2X's UI from reviews and would like to give it a go.
Lol. I think you're mistaken. The optimus 2X UI is laggy. I think LG rushed its UI for an early release. They probably wanted to have the 1st dual core phone so much that the 2x UI was not polished 100%.
Wait for other roms,you might find CM7 attractive because of its extra features.
I came from a Motorola Cliq XT 1.5 phone, I'm pretty sure it can't be THAT bad compared to what I had to put up with on 1.5 + MotoBLUR.
I just figured this sort of thing would have been ported by now
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I came from a Motorola Cliq XT 1.5 phone, I'm pretty sure it can't be THAT bad compared to what I had to put up with on 1.5 + MotoBLUR.
I just figured this sort of thing would have been ported by now
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Yeah! I came from an atrix and motoblur was really BAD, ugly, slow and laggy.
Nobody seems to be interested in porting the LG ui as of the moment cause like what i said earlier, the LG UI is a bit unpolished.
Ported by now?? The g2x was just released a week ago! Clockworkmod is still in testing! The entitlement some people express on here is just amazing. Feel free to port it yourself. Nobody is gonna want LG 's laggy UI but you.
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Yeah! I came from an atrix and motoblur was really BAD, ugly, slow and laggy.
Nobody seems to be interested in porting the LG ui as of the moment cause like what i said earlier, the LG UI is a bit unpolished.
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That's a real bummer. I was looking forward on having the lockscreen by them. The dynamic weather background thing was pretty cool, + Status update widgets.
Thats the only reason why I enjoyed MotoBLUR, some of the widgets were pretty helpful, though laggy.
Maybe later on down the road hopefully.
I would be exclted to try out the new sense on this phone. Probably wouldn't use it as a daily driver, or maybe I would, but I think it would still be cool to try it out instead of me having to buy them sensation to try it out lol
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Yeah. Its too early to tell.
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Yeah! I came from an atrix and motoblur was really BAD, ugly, slow and laggy.
Nobody seems to be interested in porting the LG ui as of the moment cause like what i said earlier, the LG UI is a bit unpolished.
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The Atrix is definitely a pain in the rear... I sent it right back! LG's UI is very pretty though I still prefer stock or sense....
You guys are probably gonna be like this is a stupid thread and everything, but the revamped version of motoblur actually looks nice and doesnt seem that bad in performance from what i can see in the leaked droid bionic video. is there anyway to get it ported to the sensation or a launcher thats like it? thanks in advance
«It's funny because it's true» – the much hated blur is now much snappier and way less invasive than the glorious sense, which has almost become bloatware itself.
Who could have guessed a year ago!?
They weren't able to do it with the previous one, I don't know the exact reason, however who knows, that was before.
I don't like motoblur but +1 for the idea, it is always good to have diversity and choice
Um, really?
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When i had motoblur on the Cliq it was horrible, Also the cliq was a horrible phone too but still i hated motoblur it was like bloatware
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When i had motoblur on the Cliq it was horrible, Also the cliq was a horrible phone too but still i hated motoblur it was like bloatware
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that was the start of motoblur and the most recent one they released thats on the motorola devices with gb is really nice looking and looks like it has smooth transitions and everything. i just want a launcher of something like that, not all the bloat thats included with it