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Currently, I fall on the WinMo side of the coin.
All my email is hosted by Google Apps, and is pushed to my WinMo device by GoogleApps using the MS Activesync (MS Exchange Server) protocol.
If I move onto an ANDROID device, what mechanisms are available to me, to have 'always on' push-email? Will my GoogleApps account have to MS ActiveSync to my Google Powered phone? Seems a bit weird. I know there are some 'constant connected' implementations of IMAP too, but apparently they're particularly resource / data hungry.
Can anyone advise - I'm likely to buy my first Android phone quite soon.
The default gmail application does push. There are also several options and settings for push or timed queries for other mail services, exchange or otherwise through market applications or the stock email application.
Android phones usually have 2 mail apps. One for gmail which automatically pushes mail to the app and works absolutely brilliantly. The second is for all other types of mail accounts eg pop, Imap, and exchange ActiveSync. This can be scheduled or set to push under ActiveSync.
Thanks folks, for all the input.
This sounds like it would actually work better for me, as it seems I'd be able to have instant push email through the gmail app, for my google-apps domain, and the second mail client could be pushed email directly from an exchange server.
Wonder how it'll handle contacts from both!
I think all that remains now, is do I get the HTC Desire, or the SE Xperia X10,
and that's a question out of scope for this thread, I think.
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
I actually switched from having a hosted MSexchange account to a Googleapps GMail acct, and push works great.
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Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
youbrokeit said:
according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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The email app on android doesn't have a seperate domain box and keeps putting a '\' on the front of the '<mail name>@gmail.com' :-(
I know this is some sort of thread necromancy but I have a question regarding setting up google mail while also using the standard google account for synchronisation.
Both methods offer also synchronisation of contacts and calendars. While having both calendar synchronisation options active it will clone your entries. What about the contact synchronisation? It seems reasonable to have both options active as adding a new contact over the email app (which will use the exchange active sync) would synchronise with the google contacts which in turn should fill up your contacts handbook. Or is it obsolete as the stock email app will already add the contact to your google account even using seemingly another account?
I would appreciate any attempts to clear this confusion
Nevermind. Found it out myself: just stay with the google account, the stock email app takes it info from there and does integrate it.
issue im facing on the GMail app that comes built in with the OS, I cannot move emails to a specific folder. Any overcome ?
Some of this needs to be done from a PC......
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
ratta77 said:
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
Hi guys,
For all those who are looking for having your private domain mails pushed to your phone, without having an Exchange setup, GMAIL does it!
Here is a step by step guide for adding POP/IMAP mail accounts into your GMAIL account and therefore getting the mails pushed to your phone.
Only thing is that the mails take around 15-20 minutes to come through, as GMAIL fetches your POP/IMAP mails into its server every 15 minutes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-gmail-your-own-personal-push-mail-server
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Next alternative is using SEVEN MAIL! this is a brilliant app, very very easy to setup, and gives you mails in 5-10 minutes max!
here is the page where they have a direct download link for the SEVEN app
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/seven-a-push-email-client-released-on-android-2-1.html
and above all, like Gmail, its also FREE!
Airosa said:
Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
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I have to agree with you. How could google let us down? the email app is crap.... I miss iphone email client but i hate APPLE
Problem push mail motorola Razr
Hello i just got my razr 3 days ago is running 2.3.5 I just notice that i dont get my emails on time i have to keep refreshing every-time i happen either with gmail app nor email app i try to modify the settings but is not too much to set i try to delete the gmail update and still the same problem, i have also a blackberry and the emails goes straight away to my blackberry and after 30 or 40 to my razr which is very annoying i want to get rid of blackberry, Somebody knows how to fix it? thanks
so, i had a hotmail account set up on my htc mail app. mail came through with no problems, but any actions i took on the device didnt get reflected on the server. so if i read/deleted mail on the device, i had to do the same on the web inbox.
i switched to k-9 mail which now deletes mail on the server, but doesnt mark the mail as read once i've read it. something which i do quite often as i use my hotmail for online purchases, and i want to read an invoice but keep it for reference.
does anyone know an app that allows mail thats read on the device to be marked as read on the server?
muchos gracias!
anyone?
reelist said:
anyone?
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My wife has a blackberry and uses hotmail also. I believe the problem lies in the difference between POP3/IMAP. Hotmail connects via POP3 and from what I gather that protocol doesn't involve much more than basically forwarding the messages to your phone. While IMAP (which Gmail is capable of using) allows the syncing of deleted items\read items\etc.
dkelle4 said:
My wife has a blackberry and uses hotmail also. I believe the problem lies in the difference between POP3/IMAP. Hotmail connects via POP3 and from what I gather that protocol doesn't involve much more than basically forwarding the messages to your phone. While IMAP (which Gmail is capable of using) allows the syncing of deleted items\read items\etc.
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I had a blackberry before my android and was able to read and delete mail, mark mail as unread etc and it would be reflected in my hotmail inbox. its really frustrating as having the blackberry allowed me to manage my inbox completely without having to log into my hotmail and now i feel like im going backwards
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so, i had a hotmail account set up on my htc mail app. mail came through with no problems, but any actions i took on the device didnt get reflected on the server. so if i read/deleted mail on the device, i had to do the same on the web inbox.
i switched to k-9 mail which now deletes mail on the server, but doesnt mark the mail as read once i've read it. something which i do quite often as i use my hotmail for online purchases, and i want to read an invoice but keep it for reference.
does anyone know an app that allows mail thats read on the device to be marked as read on the server?
muchos gracias!
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Try this:
Setup a new account.
In the first screen, where you write your name and password, hit manual setup. In the next screen, select the last option (Exchange ActiveSync).
In the details put:
Server: m.hotmail.com
Username: your email eg. [email protected]
Domain: leave this blank
SSL: Enable this/use always
Certificate: SSL
It has some additional settings (sync contacts, calendars, etc.), select as needed.
Began testing last weekend after seeing this post. http://androidcommunity.com/forums/349480-post18.html
E-Mail is working good so far, have not used contacts and calendar sync. It pushes messages and syncs them both ways when necessary.
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Try this:
Setup a new account.
In the first screen, where you write your name and password, hit manual setup. In the next screen, select the last option (Exchange ActiveSync).
In the details put:
Server: m.hotmail.com
Username: your email eg. [email protected]
Domain: leave this blank
SSL: Enable this/use always
Certificate: SSL
It has some additional settings (sync contacts, calendars, etc.), select as needed.
Began testing last weekend after seeing this post. http://androidcommunity.com/forums/349480-post18.html
E-Mail is working good so far, have not used contacts and calendar sync. It pushes messages and syncs them both ways when necessary.
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so so close!
firstly, thanks for the tip. it seems to be working, but the only issue is that it has constant sync failures. i've only had it up for half an hour or so and have been testing it out, and when it works - it works well. but the syncing issue could be a deal breaker if its not an time-isolated issue. so far i've had to manually instigate the sync when i know theres new mail, or i want to push changes back to the server.
will give it a few days and see. if its still buggy i dont see spending 12 quid on it as getting value for money.
Weird... It's been working perfect so far, maybe it has to do with the OS version you have on your device, I have Cyanogen's 6.1 RC1, Android 2.2.1. Anyway I was looking for a product called Exchange for Android 2.x, but it's $20 and this is not an urgent need for me.
BTW, why you need to expend $12 on this, it's free as far as I can tell
Im looking for an advanced version of the gmail client. Paid or free, it doesnt matter.
I need the basic functionality currently on offer (just for gmail addresses really), but with more options. Landscape view like in touchwiz would be nice, as well as better attachment options, etc..
Pretty vague but you know what i mean
Why not just use the stock Samsung email client?
Regards,
Dave
that k-9 mail is meant to be good
maildroid looks promising to , one free and one expensive version..
Try Moxier... thumbs up from me. Only cost 20 bucks
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The stock client still doesn't deliver notifications properly on my jk5 rom.
stock client is pop, not push mail
Try the mail'd app off the norton ink. It does everything u want for free! Link is on here somewhere lol
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bartito said:
stock client is pop, not push mail
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Nonsense! I get push email from my GApps account using the stock client.
Hint: Use Exchange ActiveSync, which Gmail supports.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Nonsense! I get push email from my GApps account using the stock client.
Hint: Use Exchange ActiveSync, which Gmail supports.
Regards,
Dave
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hi,
in stock email app, i will to add a account for my *****@gmail.com
later, in account options, is possible to specify the "scan new messages timeout" that
implies the email protocol is pop. imap don't poll for new messages.
jongilluley said:
Try the mail'd app off the norton ink. It does everything u want for free! Link is on here somewhere lol
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Here maybe?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932658
other apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928832
bartito said:
hi,
in stock email app, i will to add a account for my *****@gmail.com
later, in account options, is possible to specify the "scan new messages timeout" that
implies the email protocol is pop. imap don't poll for new messages.
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First of all you are wrong in that IMAP doesn't poll - it can use poll at intervals if you wish. IMAP IDLE is a pseudo push, and that is what you are thinking of, but it is still a form of polling in essence.
However, all of this is immaterial!
In the stock email client, when you set up a new account you enter your email address and password. At this stage, you could click next and it would set up your Gmail account as IMAP. However, if you click Manual Setup, you get 3 options:
POP
IMAP
Exchange
Select Exchange account and then enter the follow:
Domain\Username : [email protected] (or [email protected] if you are using GApps for Domains)
Exchange Server : m.google.com (for both regular GMail and GApps for Domains email)
Press Next, and then you get the option to change the "Email Check Frequency", which by default should be "Automatic (Push)".
Job done! True push on stock email client.
Regards,
Dave
Wow, just wow. I didn't know about that exchange stuff. That's insane! Thanks!
hi,
i have configured my gmail account in order to send emails using another identities.
in gmail is possible to select the identity of the sender, but not in stock email app.
it's correct or i'm wrong
Thanks for the info, I just set this up on my tab and I can use the account to send mail but it seems like it's not receiving; also when I click the sync button it says unable to connect to server. very strange.
Thanks. It work perfectly in my tab.
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AWSOME!
just tested this on my tab i like the mail app a little bit better then the gmail IMO
so it seems I'm the only one getting this connection error when I attempt to setup gmail exchange on the samsumg email app =(
Has anyone tried this with more than one exchange server? When I try to add an exchange server, the exchange button is grayed out. I'm guessing it's because I already have a different exchange e-mail setup?
Edit: Interesting - I deleted my other exchange account and I'm getting the same "Unable to connect" to server error message everyone else is getting. I even changed the domain to Google (using some old knowledge I used to do something similar to this to sync my contacts with Google on my old Windows phone devices: http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=138636).
Any ideas?
I had set up several gmail exchange accounts, and they all worked. However i think that app is memory hog, it's slow, with buggy notifications and in the end i switched back to the standard gmail one. Did you notice that there isn't really any alternative email client on the market?
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I've tried researching this and the only solution I found for checking my hotmail account, which just happens to be my #1 email account I use, is by either setting it up as an email account, which wouldn't work well for me because I use alot of folders, or by using it through the internet interface just by hyperlink, which doesn't work too well for me because of the size. Is Microsoft intentionally ignoring a huge market just because it's a competing OS or is there anything on the horizon about a hotmail/windows live mail app for Android coming down the pipe?
No idea about M$ intentions. Anyway, unless a service offers IMAP access, I would not touch it with 10ft pole, let alone use it as primary email. WLM uses MAPI crappy Exchange protocol, enough said.
Forward the mail to somewhere else where you can access it via IMAP.
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You should be able to set it up as an exchange activesync account. It is fairly new and not widely known that you can do it that way. You will need to select corporate sync with manual setup. Use the following settings:
Username: full email address
Domain - leave blank
Server: m.hotmail.com
That should set it up with full push notifications and folder sync. It doesn't work on every android device but should on most.
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I have a personal Honor 8 device I use to access my company email. They use Duo Mobile software to authenticate before allowing this.
After upgrading to Nougat 7.0, I am unable to access email (using the Outlook app). I get a message saying that I need full disk encryption turned on. I don't see this as an option anywhere in my Settings. I do have a strong password set to be used.
Do I need to enable File Based encryption at this stage? I am trying to do this and do not see the option to convert to File Based encryption even after turning on Developer Options by the way.
Has anybody else run into this issue? Any guidance - I am dead in the water without being able to access my email.
Thx
AK
I remember I had a problem with my e-mail but I'm not 100% certain that it was the same issue. But try to remove all your screen locks including finger print and try again.
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I remember I had a problem with my e-mail but I'm not 100% certain that it was the same issue. But try to remove all your screen locks including finger print and try again.
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Thanks for the response. However in order to enable Corporate Email, Outlook asks for a password to be in place. Therefore I cannot remove all screen locks.
The problem seems to be that the authenticating software (Duo Mobile) is looking for two things on the device. One is that full disk encryption is explicitly enabled. The other is that the setting to "Require password at Startup" is enabled. Neither of these options are availalble on the Honor 8. Their support says that encryption is on by default and therefore there is no setting for it.
akatti said:
Thanks for the response. However in order to enable Corporate Email, Outlook asks for a password to be in place. Therefore I cannot remove all screen locks.
The problem seems to be that the authenticating software (Duo Mobile) is looking for two things on the device. One is that full disk encryption is explicitly enabled. The other is that the setting to "Require password at Startup" is enabled. Neither of these options are availalble on the Honor 8. Their support says that encryption is on by default and therefore there is no setting for it.
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Further, I looked at turning on the new File Based Encryption that is part of Nougat. There are how-to's that discuss this, where you have to turn on Developer Options to do so. However, on the Honor 8, even after turnin on Developer Options, there is no option to "Convert to File Based encryption" available. If you search in Settings, it shows this option, but upon clicking on that option from the Settings Search results, it just takes you into Developer Options and there is no setting to enable File Based encryption.
Nvm this, poor reading comprehension on my part
I have no issues using Gmail's Exchange client to connect to my corporate email. It sounds like it's not a Nougat or Android problem, it's a Duo Mobile problem
I had the same problem.
Switched to the app Nine. It is a one-time purchase and its security model is app-wide instead of device-wide.
Have you tried it yet?
Telperion said:
I have no issues using Gmail's Exchange client to connect to my corporate email. It sounds like it's not a Nougat or Android problem, it's a Duo Mobile problem
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The company whose email I need to get to has only enabled Outlook as a client - therefore using other email clients (such as the Gmail app) is not an option unfortunately.
akatti said:
The company whose email I need to get to has only enabled Outlook as a client - therefore using other email clients (such as the Gmail app) is not an option unfortunately.
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To the best of my knowledge as long as you have the correct server credentials, you can use any client. For example, my credentials:
Server: subdomain.website.com
Domain\Username: test\Telperion
Port: 443
Security type: SSL/TLS
I can connect using Gmail's Exchange client, Outlook for Android, Nine, native Huawei email client, etc. While everyone's setup is different, if you're able to log in using the Outlook client, theoretically there's nothing to prevent you from using the same credentials in a different client.
That was my not my experience.
My company's Outlook server is configured to require device-level encryption for mobile devices with complex passwords. On my Nexus 6p, Outlook for Android did not work, with the error that it "did not support the encryption required". Also, I could not use fingerprint authentication on the device, and required a 8-digit unlock code. Not just for Outlook, mind you -- any time I wanted to unlock the phone.
OWA (Outlook Web App) for Android worked fine, but it supports neither push nor notifications, rendering it utterly useless. OWA is, as far as I can tell, just a shell containing an HTML rendering engine that reflows the web app.
The only reason CloudMagic (and potentially Nine) worked for me is that CloudMagic (and I think Nine) have device-level encryption on their server (?). The end-user provides credentials for their server to log in, download the email, and act as an intermediary.
Telperion said:
To the best of my knowledge as long as you have the correct server credentials, you can use any client. For example, my credentials:
Server: webmail.website.com
Domain\Username: test\Telperion
Port: 443
Security type: SSL/TLS
I can connect using Gmail's Exchange client, Outlook for Android, Nine, native Huawei email client, etc. While everyone's setup is different, if you're able to log in using the Outlook client, theoretically there's nothing to prevent you from using the same credentials in a different client.
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biogon said:
That was my not my experience.
My company's Outlook server is configured to require device-level encryption for mobile devices with complex passwords. On my Nexus 6p, Outlook for Android did not work, with the error that it "did not support the encryption required". Also, I could not use fingerprint authentication on the device, and required a 8-digit unlock code. Not just for Outlook, mind you -- any time I wanted to unlock the phone.
OWA (Outlook Web App) for Android worked fine, but it supports neither push nor notifications, rendering it utterly useless. OWA is, as far as I can tell, just a shell containing an HTML rendering engine that reflows the web app.
The only reason CloudMagic (and potentially Nine) worked for me is that CloudMagic (and I think Nine) have device-level encryption on their server (?). The end-user provides credentials for their server to log in, download the email, and act as an intermediary.
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When adding my corporate exchange email to Gmail, Gmail is activated as a device administrator with permissions to:
Erase all data
Set password rules
Monitor screen-unlock attempts
Lock the screen
Set lock-screen password expiration
Set storage encryption
Disable cameras
I'm not using webmail, I'm using Exchange ActiveSync. Device policy forces me to have a lock screen pin or password, but I can still fingerprint unlock it. It sounds as if your respective Exchange servers aren't configured properly, because all of the security that they're requiring can be mandated through ActiveSync and Gmail's device administration service.
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Telperion said:
It sounds as if your respective Exchange servers aren't configured properly, because all of the security that they're requiring can be mandated through ActiveSync and Gmail's device administration service.
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Is Exchange ActiveSync different from Office 365's Exchange?
When I asked IT about local ActiveSync, they said that they don't support it, just Office 365 on Shibboleth.
Then again, I couldn't get a Chromebook to connect to the WiFi network here due to some misconfiguration in their Cisco router's PEAP setup, so I wouldn't be surprised.
biogon said:
Is Exchange ActiveSync different from Office 365's Exchange?
When I asked IT about local ActiveSync, they said that they don't support it, just Office 365 on Shibboleth.
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Different back end, same capabilities. Exchange ActiveSync is a site-hosted server, Office 365 is a cloud-hosted version. On a local Exchange server, your IT department will have set up a local domain and you will have a user account in Active Directory (domain\Telperion). In Office 365, your user account is your email address ([email protected]) and there is no domain mapped that you have to configure. Once you know this, you can piece together the way to configure it.
The biggest challenge is that IT typically won't mess around with supporting mobile device configuration ("I don't know Android"), and Microsoft tutorials don't give clear instructions ("I don't know Android"). Android tutorials say "I don't know Microsoft" so you end up having to piece things together from multiple sources online.
See attached tutorial, it's very easy once you know what to do.
Add new account from device Accounts menu
Choose 'Exchange' with the Gmail logo
Enter your corporate email address, don't hit next, hit "Manual Setup"
Choose 'Exchange' as the account type
Make sure your email is entered in "domain\username" field
Enter password
Server for Office 365 is "outlook.office365.com"
Port 443
Set security to "SSL/TLS"
From there it should handle all the rest of the configuration.
biogon said:
I had the same problem.
Switched to the app Nine. It is a one-time purchase and its security model is app-wide instead of device-wide.
Have you tried it yet?
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Thanks. Tried Nine. Works the same way as Outlook so far. In other words, setting its policy to only apply to the app doesn't make a difference in how Duo Mobile (the two factor authentication checker) continues to insist the device be encrypted and have the setting "Require password on startup" be turned on.
Telperion said:
Different back end, same capabilities. Exchange ActiveSync is a site-hosted server, Office 365 is a cloud-hosted version. On a local Exchange server, your IT department will have set up a local domain and you will have a user account in Active Directory (domain\Telperion). In Office 365, your user account is your email address ([email protected]) and there is no domain mapped that you have to configure. Once you know this, you can piece together the way to configure it.
The biggest challenge is that IT typically won't mess around with supporting mobile device configuration ("I don't know Android"), and Microsoft tutorials don't give clear instructions ("I don't know Android"). Android tutorials say "I don't know Microsoft" so you end up having to piece things together from multiple sources online.
See attached tutorial, it's very easy once you know what to do.
Add new account from device Accounts menu
Choose 'Exchange' with the Gmail logo
Enter your corporate email address, don't hit next, hit "Manual Setup"
Choose 'Exchange' as the account type
Make sure your email is entered in "domain\username" field
Enter password
Server for Office 365 is "outlook.office365.com"
Port 443
Set security to "SSL/TLS"
From there it should handle all the rest of the configuration.
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Thanks for the detailed message. Tried the above.
When I left the server be the default server name (derived from my email address), I got a "Certificate is not valid" error. I had "None" as the certificate.
After I changed the server name to be outlook.office365.com as mentioned in your instructions above, I now get a "Can't connect to server" message.
I did recheck my steps. Not sure why Gmail fails to connect. Any suggestions on where to look?
akatti said:
Thanks for the detailed message. Tried the above.
When I left the server be the default server name (derived from my email address), I got a "Certificate is not valid" error. I had "None" as the certificate.
After I changed the server name to be outlook.office365.com as mentioned in your instructions above, I now get a "Can't connect to server" message.
I did recheck my steps. Not sure why Gmail fails to connect. Any suggestions on where to look?
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Those instructions are for Office 365, it sounds like yours is hosted.
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Those instructions are for Office 365, it sounds like yours is hosted.
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I checked the settings for Outlook Web on my PC and it is an Office 365 account. I updated by Gmail settings to match (Server: outlook.office365.com, Port: 993 and Security: SSL/TLS although on the PC it was just TLS). Get a message saying "Couldn't open connection to server".