Android lacks consistency (widgets,apps, copy and paste) - General Topics

Right now what android lacks is consistency is not so hard to fiz i dont know what's taken google so long , i think they should:
1.Force developers to build widgets that MATCH android's color scheme , the facebook/twitter widgets for example look HORRIBLE , winamp's widget doesnt look so bad but it would be nice if it'd match the black on the notification bar
2.Stick with ONE way to copy/paste and text edition , why the hell would they make one way in sms, another in the browser and another one on the gmail app?
3.Force manufacturers to stop using skins ala windows phone 7 , let them add widgets, music apps, twitter/facebook apps but stick with the stock ui, notification bar, and icons , gingerbread made android decent looking so there's no excuse
I know android is supossed to be open but samsung and motorola should be arrested for the hideous skins , my god touchwiz is atrocious

Yes, lets lock it down. Then you can have windows phone 7's ugly sister -_-

The more i think about it the more annoyed i am about the fragmentation issue with Android. I agree with the OP that there needs to be more consistency across the platform.

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HD2 Sense UI on Android 2.1?

Hi Guys,
Is it possible to get HD2's Sense UI on android 2.1 devices? I'm a huge fan of HTC's Sense UI. I'd like to get an android device, but this sense UI is stopping me from getting one!
OMG REALLY!? DO YOU WANT IT!? REALLY BAD!? Haah I'm just messing with you. What Android 2.1 Device are you mentioning. If it's the Nexus One which is the only device that runs Android 2.1, then here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636048
if not... TOUGH CRAPZ! I sure do hope you're Rooted.
i think hes talking about the windows mobile sense. in other words he wants the touchflo like sense if im not mistaken. As far as i know you can't i don't if anyone even tried
i thought legend and desire do actually have almost the same version of Sense UI? They're Android 2.1 devices as well...
yes hes talking about HD2 which is winMo,
i dont think anyone anywhere has done what he says,
i havnt seen sense UI on android, but its lks amazing from the videos better than winMo sense UI (aka touch FLO 3D).
sense andoid vs sense winmo
I'm a winmo user and am not very familiar with andoid. It seems like sense on either improves the home screen.
I've been with Sprint for about 10 years, but considered leaving just to get the hd2 until they announced the evo.
I like the winmo sense today screen because of the slider (don't want to swipe multiple times to get where I want to be), but it looks like andoid might be a little more flexibe in that each screen can have shortcuts or widgets.
I don't like the look of shortcuts just plastered on the screen though and it seems like winmo has come further in the way of mods (more customization/sense tabs/titanium panels) and I've seen (but not yet used) some that 1.detach sense from windows so you can have the windows today screen and sense and 2.enable you to use windows plugins in a sense tab.
Before touchflo I used ultimate launch. It allows tabs that you can put shortcuts, plugins or widgets on and is very customizable. If it had a slider I think it would rule.
I'm hoping more android mods will come soon. I would love to have a slider on sense and more info on the home screen (calendar, missed calls, voicemails, emails, texts, tasks, some metrics) along with the time and weather.
I'm really just looking for the pros and cons even though I will be on android soon because I've been planning on replacing my mogul for a long time (wanted the tp2 then they announced the hd2 then they announced the evo) and the evo is just tooo good. I guess you gotta stop and get something somewhere even if the scorpion is going to be a phone.
I'm not sure if I'm wrong about anything here and would love to hear anyone's thoughts. I hope I'm not off topic as I think touchflo on android sense would be awesome (more screens/panels too although I hear that's a memory hog).
Sorry for the late reply guys. I was outta station and I lack a smartphone to access internet while I'm travelling
Thanks for your replies.
BTW, G1Bricked, I mentioned about the senseUI of the HD2. If I had liked the SenseUI of Android, I will buy BRAVO itself. I mean, Desire itself.
But, I like the HD2 sense UI a lot (not only for the eye candies, but the three shotcuts on the home page and much more when you slide down). But the only thing that's preventing me from buying the HD2 is its screen!
If there is a way to brinf HD2 Sense UI to Android 2.1, I would buy Galaxy S (Ya, just for the mouth watery screen). I like the default android 2.1 home screen (the one in nexus one), but galaxy S's home screen looks too cheap (IMHO). I guess we can bring the default android home screen on galaxy S easily, but still HD2 sense UI on it will be simply great!
And can any one of you guys help me in comparing the HD2 screen with that of other smartphones(like Nexus one ,desire etc.,) in BRIGHT SUNLIGHT. Cause I guess, at indoors, HD2 is in par with the other devices except for the deep blacks provided by the AMOLED screens. But brightness is the same i guess...
I would love to have the windows mobile sense as well, hope someone comes out with a theme for it.
G1BRICKED said:
OMG REALLY!? DO YOU WANT IT!? REALLY BAD!? Haah I'm just messing with you. What Android 2.1 Device are you mentioning. If it's the Nexus One which is the only device that runs Android 2.1, then here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636048
if not... TOUGH CRAPZ! I sure do hope you're Rooted.
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You know... If you're going to take that tone of text with people, and be a complete jerk in the process, it's usually a REALLY good idea to actually be right in what you claim.
Both the HTC Legend and Desire are also Android 2.1 devices, and both have the original Sense UI on which the current Windows version of it is based.
emmarbee said:
Sorry for the late reply guys. I was outta station and I lack a smartphone to access internet while I'm travelling
Thanks for your replies.
BTW, G1Bricked, I mentioned about the senseUI of the HD2. If I had liked the SenseUI of Android, I will buy BRAVO itself. I mean, Desire itself.
But, I like the HD2 sense UI a lot (not only for the eye candies, but the three shotcuts on the home page and much more when you slide down). But the only thing that's preventing me from buying the HD2 is its screen!
If there is a way to brinf HD2 Sense UI to Android 2.1, I would buy Galaxy S (Ya, just for the mouth watery screen). I like the default android 2.1 home screen (the one in nexus one), but galaxy S's home screen looks too cheap (IMHO). I guess we can bring the default android home screen on galaxy S easily, but still HD2 sense UI on it will be simply great!
And can any one of you guys help me in comparing the HD2 screen with that of other smartphones(like Nexus one ,desire etc.,) in BRIGHT SUNLIGHT. Cause I guess, at indoors, HD2 is in par with the other devices except for the deep blacks provided by the AMOLED screens. But brightness is the same i guess...
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The latest version of SenseUI, on Android 2.1 devices, is FAR superior to the limited Windows implementation of it (as far as I've seen of it, anyway). What specific functionality are you wanting?
As for the screen, I can see my Desire's screen quite well in sunlight, though if it's REALLY bright and directly on the screen, I might need to shade it with a hand. It's certainly better than backlit LCD displays are.
sense, android vs winmo
In what ways do feel sense on android is better than sense on winmo? Honestly looking for opinions. I'm a winmo user, but am switching to android for the Evo and am trying to learn about it. I like the slider on winmo and the all the new mods like the expanded and multiple page launcher and the swipe (once) to switch from appts to tasks.
I know on android you have 7 screens (i used to use ultimate launch with multiple screens), but I've begun to like minimal effort navigating (like using the touchflo slider) to get where I want. I think it might bother me to swipe three times to get to the screen I want. I know, I'm lazy.
Also, I know if I use the multiple page launcher on winmo I will be swiping multiple times, but I doubt I would have that many apps and I also like using touchlaunch (touch a letter and it scrolls there) mapped to a softkey.
Well, for a start, you can place program shortcuts or widgets where ever you like on those 7 screens, so depending on your choice, you either have no swipes, or a maximum of 3. Also, on the Legend and Desire at least, you don't have to swipe. You can pinch to show all 7 screens, and tap the one you want to jump right to it.
You also have far greater control over what widgets you have, and don't even have to use HTC's own widgets if you don't want to. There's no xml file to hack around in to change your layouts either, just drag and drop. This alone makes it far superior to the WM version of SenseUI.
Finally, some good info
FloatingFatMan said:
Well, for a start, you can place program shortcuts or widgets where ever you like on those 7 screens,
not a big fan of shortcuts just plastered on the screen, I like a structured look, but that's just aesthetics. That does seems versatile, any limit to how many shortcuts per screen or how many widgets per screen? Can you have full screen widgets (of course that would limit you to 7)? I do like the winmo sense slider widgets.
so depending on your choice, you either have no swipes, or a maximum of 3. Also, on the Legend and Desire at least, you don't have to swipe. You can pinch to show all 7 screens, and tap the one you want to jump right to it.
Kinda cool, but I'm not a big fan of that either as I like one handed operations. I feel like multitouch is overkill on a phone, but to each his own and it is a neat capability, just more complicated than a one swipe.
You also have far greater control over what widgets you have, and don't even have to use HTC's own widgets if you don't want to. There's no xml file to hack around in to change your layouts either, just drag and drop. This alone makes it far superior to the WM version of SenseUI.
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Now that's pretty good news. I'm not sure how many widgets are available in winmo now (I know there are some new ones from mods I think), but I have wished it was as easy as downloading an app.
you know, titanium was like sense on winmo, just ass backwards. You swiped/dragged up and down (the long way) to get to your widget (or panel) and then left and right in that panel.
I want the best of both worlds, windroid.
Manicmobileaddict said:
not a big fan of shortcuts just plastered on the screen, I like a structured look, but that's just aesthetics. That does seems versatile, any limit to how many shortcuts per screen or how many widgets per screen? Can you have full screen widgets (of course that would limit you to 7)? I do like the winmo sense slider widgets.
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The only limitation is on available screen real estate. Yes, there are full screen widgets available.
Manicmobileaddict said:
Now that's pretty good news. I'm not sure how many widgets are available in winmo now (I know there are some new ones from mods I think), but I have wished it was as easy as downloading an app.
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The problem with adding extra widgets in winmo Sense was that I just found a lot of them hack jobs and not very well put together; this is especially true for Titanium widgets. They often needed extra things to be installed such as MortScript just to do things like getting weather forecast; and in a lot of cases, involved having to hack DLL's to get decent levels of customization. They certainly weren't for the average user who just wanted some neat widgets.
I've been a WinMo user since Orange released their first HTC made Smartphone, the C100 or C200 I think it was? Years ago anyway. I've had an Android phone for 1.5 weeks now, and I'm not missing WinMo in the slightest.
wow
Thanks dune fan.
coming from a tp2 i can tell you about the comparisons.
Try the android sense. it appears different... but not really just adapted. On WM there is only one home screen, hence the tabs. but what are the tabs? home, email, contacts, programs, texts, internet....
well on android sense, like you said each screen is extremely customizable...
but stock sense has it organized just like windows mobile. each home screen is filled with a full page widget of... email, texts, social networking, news, weather etc just like wm. except it needs no hacks to change... if you dont li ke the 'tab' or homescreen... just throw it in the trash and load whatever you want.
So, since I loved Sense on my TP2... mine is set up like this. home screen has the exact weatherclock wm has, with a few shortcuts to most used programs. then one screen is texts, one screen is facebook which works aloooot better in android, one screen is a bunch of programs, one screen is emails. the rest I dont really use.
And the HTC keyboard is EXACTLY the same as the WM one, except it never lags, and word correction is easier but looks the same.
The Sense Dialer on Android is, to me, much superior. I hated the n1 dialer bc like Iphone your always scrolling through abc order to find a name. My new superphone took ten times as long to quickly call my friend. But when i loaded the Desire ROM on my n1, the dialer is now almost exactly like the WM one, except it has some more functionality built in.
Honestly I think HTC gave up on WM's Sense, and used it just to bring parity but spent most time developing the Android version. Try it. some people dislike it, but anyone who like the WM version, like me, will be instantly at home. It was like I bought an HD that never lagged or crashed.
I hate to tell this being the OP.
I don't feel like I want the WinMo Sense UI anymore. I was just obsessed with it. And after seeing many Android Sense UI, I feel like the android one's are more user friendly.
What's more shame one me (being a WinMo fanboy) is the fact that, after seeing the videos of Legend and Desire I kinda started liking Android 2.1. It all began with the Google Nexus One. Now HTC has perfect 2.1.
I very well realize that Android has a lottt of catching up to do, to where WinMo is now, but still
Now that I'm more inclined towards android 2.1, why should I go to a phone without Super AMOLED?
Everything is okay with I9000 Galaxy S. Except for few shortcomings...
A) It doesn't have SENSE UI. But I guess it won't be a problem. Won't you guys help me in porting senseUI to I9000?
B) It doesn't have flash. (What? No flash??)
C) The design looks awful. Both the hardware and software is a cheap replica of iphone - shame on Samsung.
If only there was a HTC phone with super AMOLED display, I can make a decison super quick!
Now I need this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6229723
(Android sense UI on HD2), is that possible?
Is that possible?
emmarbee said:
Now I need this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6229723
(Android sense UI on HD2), is that possible?
Is that possible?
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It's about as possible as running OSX software in Windows without the aid of emulation or virtualisation.
android sense is much better from hd2 sense. i talk you as winmo addicted
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[REQ] battlinesvc like appfor android

Apologies if this already been brought up before
Is there an app similar to battlinesvc
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5756511
Available for android that shows a battery bar a few pixels wide across the top of the screen. Its probably the only thing i miss from wm.
Cheers
Rob
I used to use this on WM as well, and I loved it! However, I don't think the android system is going to allow it, unless you go to a third part launcher that has it built in. LauncherPro feature idea?

How is Sense awesome?

I hear a lot of people saying Sense is awesome. This is my first time using Sense.
My favorite part about it is the Weather animations. Is this the awesome part? Not being rude but am i not using Sense to its maximal potential?
Sense overall is the meaning!
Sense is 500mb of pure ****.
Clean android 2.3.4 is perfect for me.
But to be ontopic I think most people love the widgets. The email/friendstream/calendar etc.
Try it out and report back if you like it.
Sense is the best UI on Android IMO - stock Android is FAR too basic
ROM_Guest said:
I hear a lot of people saying Sense is awesome. This is my first time using Sense.
My favorite part about it is the Weather animations. Is this the awesome part? Not being rude but am i not using Sense to its maximal potential?
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i would like to know it too.cause i never had HTC phones and iam using SE phones
I thought I liked vanilla android till sense 3.0 , vanilla android is just that .....vanilla , sense overall IMO just looks better ,widgets etc...etc..,that's why we need s-off so we can make it fly , I don't think I'm ever going back to vanilla, I installed ADW on my sensation and instantly got depressed and took it off ...vanilla just sucks compared to sense 3.0 ,but its all android so its all good
I love that you can go from the lockscreen directly to certain apps
I'm loving all the widgets, the lock screens, the carousel, and all the other neat features.. I love Sense 3.0 better than any other UI!
I like it....but then again I am coming from Touch wiz...
I like the sexy weather animation on the lock screen, also the lock screen itself. Otherwise, I feels really chunky. For the average user it seems to be really user friendly, but I am far from an average user.
However, I am angry at HTC for removing some things from the last Sense
- Reply to text messages from web
- A differerent dock, the older Sense let you choose from a rounded design to a solid block.
It's how you configure and place widgets that makes the UI aesthetically awesome, Sense is merely offering you a starting point.
Sorry, but Sense is just too much razz-ma-tazz bull**** for me. I grew up with Sense on my Hero and when aosp (the dev) came out with his stock Froyo (and later Gingerbread) roms I initially thought they were just so bland, but I grew to really love the way ADW Launcher could be set up to instantly flick from one screen to the next. I really loved not having to wait even a fraction of a second to get to the next rock-steady screen, and I came to hate the way that Sense couldn't be set up to jump instantly to the next screen. And it still can't be set up to do that, and I still hate Sense because of that. And I hate it when I unlock the lockscreen then I have to wait for that stupid carousel to quit spinning. Jeeze, that **** is truly maddening. I didn't buy a smartphone so I could watch the goddamn carousel spinning around. That got old after about 2 minutes, and I REALLY resented that I couldn't deactivate it. My time is valuable to me, that's why I got a dual-core Adreno 220 1.2ghz machine. Sense doesn't do anything for me except waste my time. The second day I had this new phone I put ADW Launcher on it and I've been a happy camper ever since. I've got it set up so all I have to do is touch the flip-screen dots in the lower corners or give the screen a flick and BAM, instant screen change! Very satisfying!
Also, ADW lets me set up 5 rows of icons on each screen, which is perfect on the size screen we have now. Being limited to 4 rows just feels like an awful waste of screen space.
So now I've got a screaming machine all set up like I like it! The only thing I don't have yet is root!
ADW on top of Sense is nice. I do like some of the apks provided with Sense. The Launcher, however, is complete garbage lacking any kind of decent customization for better useability...aesthetics only.
Sdobron said:
ADW on top of Sense is nice. I do like some of the apks provided with Sense. The Launcher, however, is complete garbage lacking any kind of decent customization for better useability...aesthetics only.
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Thanks. That's exactly what I was trying to say.
Sense is awesome because of the widgets and sleekness of it, the effects. also you get those htc apps that are pretty cool too. also the touch input HTC_IME is the best touch screen keyboard IMO.
What i find not so awesome is 7 home screens i wish you can change that. i only use 3 to 5. Sometimes it feels like over kill. Ram hog is a under statement
android with Sense is much more convinient than non-sense android..
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oldjackbob said:
Sorry, but Sense is just too much razz-ma-tazz bull**** for me. I grew up with Sense on my Hero and when aosp (the dev) came out with his stock Froyo (and later Gingerbread) roms I initially thought they were just so bland, but I grew to really love the way ADW Launcher could be set up to instantly flick from one screen to the next. I really loved not having to wait even a fraction of a second to get to the next rock-steady screen, and I came to hate the way that Sense couldn't be set up to jump instantly to the next screen. And it still can't be set up to do that, and I still hate Sense because of that. And I hate it when I unlock the lockscreen then I have to wait for that stupid carousel to quit spinning. Jeeze, that **** is truly maddening. I didn't buiy a smartphone so I could watch the goddamn carousel spinning around. That got old after about 2 minutes, and I REALLY resented that I couldn't deactivate it. My time is valuable to me, that's why I got a dual-core Adreno 220 1.2ghz machine. Sense doesn't do anything for me except waste my time. The second day I had this new phone I put ADW Launcher on it and I've been a happy camper ever since. I've got it set up so all I have to do is touch the flip-screen dots in the lower corners or give the screen a flick and BAM, instant screen change! Very satisfying!
Also, ADW lets me set up 5 rows of icons on each screen, which is perfect on the size screen we have now. Being limited to 4 rows just feels like an awful waste of screen space.
So now I've got a screaming machine all set up like I like it! The only thing I don't have yet is root!
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So with a 1000 word essay on why you hate sense you go and buy a phone with the latest version of sense on it and then you come on a forum and bash it when you knew before you bought it you were going to hate it . People like you aggravate the **** out of me
Some extra things on Sense I like that isn't the widgets or animations. Pure functional things it brings to the table that I really like:
-Quiet Ring on pickup
-Pocket mode where it increases ringtone volume when in your pocket
-Flip the phone face down to activate speaker phone
-I like the Dialer but that's more cosmetics. I do like the dial by name function from the dialer.
-I won't use a ROM unless it has the power controls in the notification window and the newer Sense builds have this (Still prefer Cyanogenmod's implementation though).
-I know some people hate it but I like the facebook linking in the contacts
That's what I can think off of the top of my head. I don't use most of the widgets (I use Fancy Widget instead of the weather clock), though I do really like the people/contact widgets.
Sense 3.0 is way too bloated. HTC needs to take lessons from Samsung (YES, SAMSUNG) and dial it back about 10 notches.
Sense is awesome because:
1. Best phone dialer and contact management
2. Best integration with social networks
3. Best keyboard and amazing auto correction
4. Awesome notification bar with quick access to apps and system settings
5. Best UI for music player with easy streaming to any wireless or Bluetooth capable device
6. Best text selection and copy paste ability. Highlight a word or paragraph in the browser and it will give you a definition, translation, YouTube results, Wikipedia results and more.
7. By far the most useful and integrated widgets of any android UI. Sure there are replacements in the market but they don't work as well as the sense widgets
8. Best gallery app that let's you wirelessly print your pictures to your printer. Also let's you edit your pictures and add effects and it has auto enhance feature that works really well.
9. Awesome browser with great rss integration
10. It's pretty
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[Q] New to Android (from iOS)...advice with notifications and status bar

I just got a Samsung S4 (Verizon) because I was tired of Apple's stagnant OS and tiny screens. And I'm a tinkerer, so I'm loving (sort of) the endless ability to change and modify just about everything. And LOVE the big screen (and I have no problem whatsoever putting it in my pocket or using it one-handed...).
I'm encountering a couple of Android frustrations and wondering if anyone can either confirm, "yep, that's how it works", or point me to an app/widget/utility that "fixes" what I'm encountering.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Notifications and status bar: I have to say I'm missing Apple's red badges that easily call attention to new emails, facebook posts, text messages, etc). I understand that on Android, all notifications show up as those little teeny, tiny white icons in the status bar, amongst the sea of other little white icons (wifi, gps, gestures, bluetooth, etc), making it not always obvious at a quick glance what's new.
I understand swiping down gives me the list of all notifications. But strangely, for such a customizable interface, evidently you have little control over the appearance and order of what's there. For instance, the "ongoing" notifications of WiFi connected shows up at the top, which I dont want to know about at all (along with those from other apps that merely announce the app is working, such as Juice Defender). And others follow in a long list with no particular organization or visual distinction.
I have played with the app SuperStatus Bar to reduce the status bar clutter, but it grinds things to a halt and takes over the notification panel without improving it. I've looked for widgets that show email, sms, etc badges but most are ugly (like most of the email widgets that come with the popular email apps like K-9, Aquamail, etc) or don't function consistently (like Notifier Widget for Facebook).
So, any suggestions or apps that help with this? And thanks to all who have read this all the way to the bottom...
Sorry to know your move to Android wasn't too smooth
I'd recommend you try Floating Notifications once it comes out of beta, holds a bit of promise
You'd get notifications from apps you choose as little floating bubbles.
It isn't too smooth now though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263987
Apart from that, getting the little wifi icons and bluetooth icons are pretty standard, and if there is a way to remove them, I'm not aware of it.
Also, you could use an app like light flow to make the notification light display a color of your choice based on the notification, it'd let you know exactly what notification you have before you turn the screen on.
I hope I helped
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Thanks for your suggestions!
I've been using Notify+ which I like for notifications. The status bar still looks like a mess to me, but I'm sure I'll survive it.
I'm actually starting to get used to the Android way of things and am feeling much better. Loving the bigger screen (Apple is loosing the game in this regard) and the customizability (although this is a double sword when you have some OCD tendencies...).
Sort of wish I'd held out for the Verizon HTC One, rather than the S4. the S4 is great, but I'm finding most of its much-touted whiz-bang features (air gestures and motions) to be gimmicky, buggy, and available in too-few apps).
But all in all, having fun with my new phone!
Thanks again for your suggestions.

Widgets Must Die ? !!!

I've been using Android for over half a decade now, and as much as I like the OS there is a feature which has never caught my attention nor sympathy, WIDGETS. I have a personal preference of keeping my screen as uncluttered and free as possible that's why I only use folders to stack all of my apps. The only widget I have ever used is Dictionary.com which is nice and unobtrusive but if it didn't exist I wouldn't be bothered to even go into the widgets tab, so my question to the community is: Do you like widgets, couldn't care less, or can't leave without them? I am curious as to what the general consensus is out there. Vote and comment below on how do you put or not to use these feature. Thanks for participating.
I use a handful of widgets. A weather widget, clock, dictionary.com, gmail, and a hotspot widget. I like widgets, obviously, but I don't go wild with them. The fact that I can do whatever I want with widgets is just one of many reasons I like Android, and scoff at people stuck with the lack of customization that iOS gives them.
Well I only have the clock widget on my home, but if you don't want them you shouldn't be all upset about em, I mean many people like or want them and it is hidden anyway so it shouldn't really bother you (long press home) unless you have a galaxy (and it's always stalking you in the app drawer )
I don't hate them or anything of the sort, I am just indifferent.

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