I noticed a Chinese tablet with awesome specs. It attracted me a lot and I almost pulled the trigger. I shared it on other site and hoped to get some helpful advices. Well, some Android fans mentioned it's exactly as same as G-tab. One guy even pointed viewsonic rebranded this matala tablet. So, what's really going on?
The tablet is, Malata ZPad
There's many versions of the tablet. Viewsonic rebranded the tablet for the US.
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Geoowl said:
I noticed a Chinese tablet with awesome specs. It attracted me a lot and I almost pulled the trigger. I shared it on other site and hoped to get some helpful advices. Well, some Android fans mentioned it's exactly as same as G-tab. One guy even pointed viewsonic rebranded this matala tablet. So, what's really going on?
The tablet is, Malata ZPad
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Malata is the OEM for G-Tablet, It is the same as G-Tab with more memory and SIM.
So, the design and patent belong to Viewsonic? Or viewsonic just bought this production and then place their logo on? I think if totally belong to viewsonic, they should have a unique brand for one product.
Does this tablet also have that stupid TnT stock interface?
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So, the design and patent belong to Viewsonic? Or viewsonic just bought this production and then place their logo on? I think if totally belong to viewsonic, they should have a unique brand for one product.
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Im pretty shure its the latter, They just put logo on it.
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Does this tablet also have that stupid TnT stock interface?
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No, TnT is a G Tablet thing.
I just find out, this zpad have no bluetooth.
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Im pretty shure its the latter, They just put logo on it.
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That's a little sad. lol...
I have the Zpad T2.
It has Bluetooth, I even have a Bluetooth Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard working perfectly. It's fast and I'd be lucky to get one force close a week.
The OEM case is also great, you can use it one way to watch videos (sits on probably a 70 degree angle) or the other way to type on it (on a 20 degree angle as it's sits lower).
Given all the problems I read here I'd probably say get the Zpad over the G-Tablet.
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Im pretty shure its the latter, They just put logo on it.
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Ha Ha, yep. That makes the G-Tablet a Z-pad Clone
I also noticed the similarities and posted about it on a different forum.
Apparently the Toshiba Folio 100 also has the same chipset, but a different screen etc., not sure if they get the chips from Malata or make it themselves. Purely speculation.
I'm getting a Z-pad soon. So excited. I ordered mine with 3G & GPS, it apparently comes standard with the bluetooth, as was mentioned. Also has 1GB of Ram. Getting the docking station too.
And the UI is apparently better/more stable than stock tnt.
One of the dev's; rothnic works on a ROM for the G-tablet, based on the Zpad firmware. I'm not sure how similar it is now, but I believe that originally that was what he did. I am open to correction on that.
Actually, no matter Malata or viewsonic, this tablet adopts Nvidia Tegra2 and Freescale cortex A9. I guess that's why it's so powerful.
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Ha Ha, yep. That makes the G-Tablet a Z-pad Clone
I'm getting a Z-pad soon. So excited. I ordered mine with 3G & GPS, it apparently comes standard with the bluetooth, as was mentioned. Also has 1GB of Ram. Getting the docking station too.
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So, it's integrated 3g network or just 3g dongle? And built-in GPS?
Thanks.
both integrated
@2manytoys, thanks.
If so, that would be fantastic!
I can't help kissing it...
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@2manytoys, thanks.
If so, that would be fantastic!
I can't help kissing it...
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But you have to order them with it, they are optional. It costs quite a bit to add them.
I think you can get up to 32GB internal with the Zpad too, but I they didn't want me to order that because mine was bought as a sample through my friend's business.
It's not as dodgy as it sounds, he has an importing business, hence he is sampling their stock before importing a larger amount from them.
Is it worth to pay $150 extra on top? You can get gtab for $400 nowadays and this one shows $540.
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Is it worth to pay $150 extra on top? You can get gtab for $400 nowadays and this one shows $540.
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If you have to use 3G and need GPS, then yes it might be worth it, eg. if you travelled by car a lot, or lived in a 3rd world country where wifi is not free and there is hardly any coverage. But it is up to the individual. And also the Zpad works out of the box . ha ha
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But you have to order them with it, they are optional. It costs quite a bit to add them.
I think you can get up to 32GB internal with the Zpad too, but I they didn't want me to order that because mine was bought as a sample through my friend's business.
It's not as dodgy as it sounds, he has an importing business, hence he is sampling their stock before importing a larger amount from them.
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If so, I will think a little again. Will contact the supplier to see what's really about the optional function.
32gb would be great. Well, 80gb,120gb...would be much much much better. :=)
seriously?! You guys just discovered that the gTablet is actually the Malata A1002(sold as zPad -- several variations)? (You never wondered why the fw updates(official) have a1002 in the name?)
BTW: There's also at leats one other rebranding in Europe as well IIRC...
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It looks like xda is really working alot on gtab, but i here the screen isnt that good. I love what xda does and android. I am running evo on cm7 and would love the tablet to be ablet to run cyanogen as well. Im just confused on what is good and not.
No help
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I noticed a hot deal for Android tablet on fatwallet. I think it's a great deal for Android 2.2 tablet based on the fantastic price and powerful spcs. The seller site is here: Freescale A8 Android 2.2 tablet
You can take a look at it and there are also many comments about this hot baby on fatwallet.
Thx but really looking for 10in screen
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Thx but really looking for 10in screen
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Not much choice in Tegra 2 ATM or even 10" altogether. If you can wait you MIGHT want to wait and see what actually does ship from what was shown at CES...
gTablet is nice and hackable, but a number of people don't like the poor viewing angles of it's LCD panel. I don't notice this much as when I use the tablet I'm looking directly at it. (Also have a Nook Color which has better viewing angles but, again, I rarely notice this because 99.999% of the time I'm looking directly at the screen...)
If manufacturer support and kernel source are important just don't buy a Chinese tablet, or at least one w/o a western re-badger supporting it, but even then only a handful have released source. There was a list compiled by someone @ Redhat the other week, check back on /. for a link. (I got the NC because I trust B&N to support the NC for a while yet at least, presuming that they don't go under, but be aware that their customer service is beyond awful... and so far Viewsonic is supporting the gTablet...)
Also, any tablet that has 3/4G is likely to be expensive in the US as they will undoubtedly be tied to a carrier(s) who will insist on a grossly overpriced MSRP such that they can look "good" when they offer a deal if purchased w/a 2y contract, however, the total cost will be MUCH higher than even the grossly overpriced unlocked one should it even be offered.
I agree with the positive comments about the G-Tablet made by others here.
Personally, I think the criticisms of the screen are overblown. I find it more than workable and simply don't do things that make it less than optimal. No question it could be better -- but at the price point I think it really is okay.
As I have said in other posts -- I bought my G-Tablets because (1) they are here NOW; (2) the price is much better than the $699-$1100 tablets that aren't even here yet; and (3) who can put a price on the fun we are having making them like we want them? If you don' want to do that then go buy a fruity-pad at way more $$$$.
If I decide I want something else later then I'll go buy it then.
IMHO!
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Thx for the comments. Thought about zpad. But it is alot higher for only difference I see is resolution. I don't like how these new ones coming out are tied to carriers. I have a cell phone for gods sake. I don't need 3g. I have wifi and tethering for that
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Personally, I think the most portable size is 7" or 8". 10" is a little big to take along.
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Thought about zpad. But it is alot higher for only difference I see is resolution.
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I think they are the same resolution 1024x600
zpad does however have 3G and GPS if they are must haves for you.
For anyone interested flat compuing has 9 flatpad a-10w tablets left. Just another zpad rebadge. But with a 1366x768 screen. Having owned the gtablet too the screen is a big improvement. Oh and mine was shipped with market.
Flatcomputing.com. no i dont work for them. His just seems to be the better product.
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Daml, I gotta try and verify this with you. I noticed on their site originally they had the a10w listed as 1366x768 but now it has been changed to 1024x600. How can you be sure it has the higher resolution?
Hmm ... that FlatComputing system looks identical to the gTablet ... There is no mention of a different display and the remainder of the hardware is spec'ed identical, isn't it?
For me, I must say that I *cannot stand* the reflective surface or terrible viewing angle of the gTablet. With that said, I'd still buy a gTablet, if the cost/value factored into the mix. There just isn't a better tablet going, for the money, than gTablet *with* VEGAN.
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Daml, I gotta try and verify this with you. I noticed on their site originally they had the a10w listed as 1366x768 but now it has been changed to 1024x600. How can you be sure it has the higher resolution?
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Hmm i didnt notice it had changed. You should ask them.
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daml said:
For anyone interested flat compuing has 9 flatpad a-10w tablets left. Just another zpad rebadge. But with a 1366x768 screen. Having owned the gtablet too the screen is a big improvement. Oh and mine was shipped with market.
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The one you recieved is 1366 x 768? The site says 1024 x 600. It only has 1 GB memory?
Daml: would you mind to send us some screenshots of the viewing angle? Since the hardware are very similar, if the screen is a big improvement, we may be able to replace the gtab screen with this one.
Thanks
Got my a10w from Flat Computing today. It's a rebranded Advent Vega. As a matter of fact, in the software update instructions it looks like "Find/Replace" missed a Vega reference, lol.
I can confirm that the unit is nearly identical to the G Tablet minus the capacitive buttons on the front of the panel. The screen is 1024x600 and DOES NOT have better viewing angles. My guess is the screen is IDENTICAL to the g tab.
So, needless to say, my A10W will be for sale shortly. Not because there is anything wrong, but I pretty much have no need for two identical tablets
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Got my a10w from Flat Computing today. It's a rebranded Advent Vega. As a matter of fact, in the software update instructions it looks like "Find/Replace" missed a Vega reference, lol.
I can confirm that the unit is nearly identical to the G Tablet minus the capacitive buttons on the front of the panel. The screen is 1024x600 and DOES NOT have better viewing angles. My guess is the screen is IDENTICAL to the g tab.
So, needless to say, my A10W will be for sale shortly. Not because there is anything wrong, but I pretty much have no need for two identical tablets
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It's truly rebranded, isn't ? If so, the quality should be reliable?
Just picked up a "refurbished" gtab at sears outlet today. Turns out its a return that someone put vegan beta 3 on and didn't set back to stock before returning it. Had some issues so I started from square one and re installed everything and now it's running vegan beta5.1.1 with working market, flash, swype, side loaded facebook, twitter, launcher pro since they didn't show up in market. Thank you all for all the great posts. I was able to do all this from reading through the forum and searching. Next up is to test media players and steamers.
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Welcome!
Would you mind telling me how much you paid? (I'd like to get another one for my wife.)
Pretty sure it's $279 at Sears Outlet.
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Love mine bought it @ office depot
Think ill check out Sears outlet for one for my wife
I'm getting mine from another forum user. It should be coming in a few days. Starting to wonder if i should have bought an Archos 101 though. After reading through the gtab forums there are some things that may make me regret buying such as
1) Uses too much battery during stand by
2) poor viewing angles on screen
3) archos can dual boot linux and android out of the box
4) archos has hdmi out port on the device
anybody used a archos gen 8 and can weigh in?
Archos is a pile of trash compared to this. The 101 is much slower and laggier. Not to mention the future of this tablet since its on the Tegra 2 platform.
1. I don't see that issue, I think mine just turns itself off after awhile, but last battery usage I saw was 24 hours at 35% life left.
2. They really aren't that terrible. If you have that concern go see if a store nearby has one or just wait for the one you bought to arrive and determine for yourself.
3. Woopty doo? Pretty sure that voids your warranty... Not to mention, what are you going to do on Linux that Android can't?
4. You know how many times I would plug something with HDMI into my tv? Once and say "That's awesome, I'll totally use this all the time" and then never do it again because it's extra hassle. But if you need that, grab the G Tab dock
You made the right choice with the G Tab.
EDIT: Almost forgot, the only thing I miss is the kickstand, lol.
Thanks for your input.
I pretty much agree on all points, except that the linux part. Archos actually supports dual boot linux from the factory and the neat thing about that is you can use it as a full pc with linux applications like full version Open Office, GIMP, other powerful applications (im assuming). I guess its not that big of a deal for a ultra mobile device.
Haha and yeah, kick stand would be nice but i suppose i can do without
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Welcome!
Would you mind telling me how much you paid? (I'd like to get another one for my wife.)
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Paid $279. been watching there site for one near me for a few weeks till it poped up yesterday morning. also got a case logic bag/sleeve for it for $5.
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4. You know how many times I would plug something with HDMI into my tv? Once and say "That's awesome, I'll totally use this all the time" and then never do it again because it's extra hassle. But if you need that, grab the G Tab dock
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I concur ... I would never stream from this device to my TV. For under $400, you can buy a pc with hdmi and toslink out and hook it to your TV .. I actually stream from this pc to my g-tab so I can watch movies on it. If I need to take some with me, I'll throw 'em on an sd card.
This thing has some quirks, but once you overcome those, I am having a blast with this thing...
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This thing has some quirks, but once you overcome those, I am having a blast with this thing...
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I agree also!
I have enjoyed the fact that their are soooo many options to how you can set up your Tab. For me it has been fun just having something to tinker around with that hasn't been locked down so much that it makes customizing a MAJOR hassle. I didn't buy my Tab thinking it would be perfect, these tablet are still in the early stages of development. In a few years the newer tablets will be incredible devices that will all but replace laptops(IMHO)..
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I agree also!
I have enjoyed the fact that their are soooo many options to how you can set up your Tab. For me it has been fun just having something to tinker around with that hasn't been locked down so much that it makes customizing a MAJOR hassle. I didn't buy my Tab thinking it would be perfect, these tablet are still in the early stages of development. In a few years the newer tablets will be incredible devices that will all but replace laptops(IMHO)..
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Speaking of early stages of development, how about nVidia announcing quad-code android tablets this summer..?
Bought mine at Sears way back at the end of November. After reading the threads concerning flashing the different ROMs I took the plunge and upgraded to TnTLite 4.1. Like you said, lots of good advice and I didn't have any trouble that couldn't be overcome by a little thread searching.
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Speaking of early stages of development, how about nVidia announcing quad-code android tablets this summer..?
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I question what the battery life will be like with Quad core. I think we are at a point where the tegra2 will do whatever we want. The limitations are really with the memory installed on the tablets.
So i want to buy a android tablet. i will so be going to college, and i find it was easier to carry tablet with ebooks instead of the actual book.
I have AT&T. so their tablet will be the Galaxy Tab, which is okay for 549.99
but then the Motorola Xoom (wifi version) came out for 599.99 which i find way better only problem would be the 3G. i hate verizon btw.
and of course there are many other to come in the next months.
so can you all guide me in which direction will be the best for me. thanks
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So i want to buy a android tablet. i will so be going to college, and i find it was easier to carry tablet with ebooks instead of the actual book.
I have AT&T. so their tablet will be the Galaxy Tab, which is okay for 549.99
but then the Motorola Xoom (wifi version) came out for 599.99 which i find way better only problem would be the 3G. i hate verizon btw.
and of course there are many other to come in the next months.
so can you all guide me in which direction will be the best for me. thanks
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If only there was a thread called:
Need advice on my next TABLET / what model is better? Official Thread---
if only that thread was not limited to $200... -sigh-
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If only there was a thread called:
Need advice on my next TABLET / what model is better? Official Thread---
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sal2708 said:
if only that thread was not limited to $200... -sigh-
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If only you'd read the rest of it and realise it is now a combined general thread.
I would imagine you would be needing something with exceptional battery life and an excellent screen (particularly for viewing in sunlight). Something like the pixel qi technology, the Notion Ink Adam for example, however whether the Notion Ink delivers on what it promises remains to be seen, its been in development for a long time.
If you are spending that sort of money I would highly recommend getting a demo of the devices and I would also consider setting the iPad2 as a benchmark, if you are paying around the same price, then you should at least aim for a screen/battery better than that, or you might as well get one of those.
i not really in iOS, i have an ipod touch. its blah.
i liek android better.
there to many out there to go for.
i have my eyes set on some of them, HTC Flyer, Moto Xoom (AT&T verison might launch is that is so, we got a winner but until then), toshiba tablet, Viewsonic Viewpad 7 or 10. those are mainly the once i am intrested in. just dont know which will be best. and more hackable (if thats even a word.)
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i not really in iOS, i have an ipod touch. its blah.
i liek android better.
there to many out there to go for.
i have my eyes set on some of them, HTC Flyer, Moto Xoom (AT&T verison might launch is that is so, we got a winner but until then), toshiba tablet, Viewsonic Viewpad 7 or 10. those are mainly the once i am intrested in. just dont know which will be best. and more hackable (if thats even a word.)
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As far as I can tell they are all quite similar spec, although not looked in detail.
Regarding hack-ability, keep an eye out for which ones are rooted etc, with the hardware specs being so good and being from main stream manufacturers chances are they will be hacked (I imagine just too tempting).
I would expect that the Viewsonic's battery and screen won't be a patch on the others, as a lesser manufacturer, but then neither will the price.
For me, I've decided to go the cheep route, since I don't have the cash to get the more expensive ones or to upgrade them when they get superseded in 12 - 18 months.
I think after all the atrix with the lapdock will be my final choice
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I have a notion ink Adam - pixel qi, 3g.
It's a great piece of hardware. Fast, good camera, light, the pixel qi works well.
The down sides are:
- the Eden UI still has a few bugs. I'm looking to run Ubuntu anyway so not an issue for me
- pixel qi is not the same as a kindle. Similar, but pixel qi is more for usage in the sun.
moofi. woot. com/moofi/deliciouswaffles
get rid of the spaces in the link .
I bought one on Friday. Still hasn't shipped :-(
Me and Woot have a love/hate relationship.
I don't get it. There is no design flaw. Why are they trying to dump this product? If they are really trying to dump this product for a newer model, the newer model better be able to sing and dance.
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I don't get it. There is no design flaw. Why are they trying to dump this product? If they are really trying to dump this product for a newer model, the newer model better be able to sing and dance.
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They are not dumping it, its just being priced competitively given the availability $400 IPS tegra 2, HC Asus Transformer.
Any way amazon's deal (via woot) was way better given it was $280 to your door step (no taxes or shipping fees).
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They are not dumping it, its just being priced competitively given the availability $400 IPS tegra 2, HC Asus Transformer.
Any way amazon's deal (via woot) was way better given it was $280 to your door step (no taxes or shipping fees).
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Priced better? You're saying they are preemptively striking all the other tegra 2's that are coming out this/next month?
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I don't get it. There is no design flaw
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Well, I can think of one giant design flaw that marred an otherwise great tablet (hey, let's take the most important part of the tablet and make it really, really, really crappy!). I would not be surprised to see this sucker at $200 new within the next couple of months with the onslaught of HC tablets hitting the market at sub-$500 prices.
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Well, I can think of one giant design flaw that marred an otherwise great tablet (hey, let's take the most important part of the tablet and make it really, really, really crappy!). I would not be surprised to see this sucker at $200 new within the next couple of months with the onslaught of HC tablets hitting the market at sub-$500 prices.
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You're talking about the screen? I've had my gtab for a couple months now. Been taking it everywhere with me. In fact, myself and a couple others from the lab attended a meeting to share our designs and experiments at a meeting. I whipped out the gtab and began sharing our autocad drawings and calculations. People were impressed. A few asked intently about my tablet.
The point is I've had no problem at all with the screen. I don't understand why people are crying bloody murder about this aspect of it. May be because you guys are spoiled?
To me, this is not a design flaw. It's not even a weakness. It just is. It makes the gtab different.
I have the Asus now, and I guess you just don't know what you're missing until you've seen a superior screen in the flesh. My jaw literally dropped when I turned it on. Straight-on, the gTab has a great screen, but the viewing angles are terrible, and I consider that a design flaw, as in they went really cheap with the screen. The Acer A500 does not have an IPS screen, yet its viewing angles are almost comparable to the Transformer, so it is possible. Whoever manufactured the gTab just cut corners on the most crucial part of a tablet.
If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
Kinda wish I'd kept mine another week so I could post the difference so you could see for yourself, but I don't suppose it matters
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You're talking about the screen? I've had my gtab for a couple months now. Been taking it everywhere with me. In fact, myself and a couple others from the lab attended a meeting to share our designs and experiments at a meeting. I whipped out the gtab and began sharing our autocad drawings and calculations. People were impressed. A few asked intently about my tablet.
The point is I've had no problem at all with the screen. I don't understand why people are crying bloody murder about this aspect of it. May be because you guys are spoiled?
To me, this is not a design flaw. It's not even a weakness. It just is. It makes the gtab different.
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I am looking at buying this tablet, what is everyone saying about the screen?
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I have the Asus now, and I guess you just don't know what you're missing until you've seen a superior screen in the flesh. My jaw literally dropped when I turned it on. Straight-on, the gTab has a great screen, but the viewing angles are terrible, and I consider that a design flaw, as in they went really cheap with the screen. The Acer A500 does not have an IPS screen, yet its viewing angles are almost comparable to the Transformer, so it is possible. Whoever manufactured the gTab just cut corners on the most crucial part of a tablet.
If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
Kinda wish I'd kept mine another week so I could post the difference so you could see for yourself, but I don't suppose it matters
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I have an iPad2, the gTablet, an Acer netbook, a Dell laptop, and a 2010 MacBookPro.
The gTablet uses the exact same LCD as the acer Netbook. You can tell the screen is designed for a slightly off center nearly dead on viewing angle, and if you hold it so, it's quite fine.
You won't be able to see much at more than 10-15 degrees off center left/right (in landscape) or up/down (portrait)
It is what it is. It's not an iPad. It's not the $120 more Asus. It's the cheapest Tegra2 with great modding support here at xda you can buy. I wouldn't spend more than $280 on it, but for $280 its great.
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Priced better? You're saying they are preemptively striking all the other tegra 2's that are coming out this/next month?
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There is nothing preemptive about it, the Asus transformer is already out there (NA release) and for even longer in EU, and the $399 NA price was already officially announced more than a month ago.
schettj said:
I wouldn't spend more than $280 on it,
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Thats the whole point, and I guess retailers do clearly see that.
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I am looking at buying this tablet, what is everyone saying about the screen?
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If you look at it straight-on, it is a great screen. If you look at it few degrees left or right, it loses quality but is still viewable. A few more degrees, and things become mushy. Tilt it slightly vertically and that's where the frustration really begins -- imagine those psychedelic videos where colors transform and turn negative. Like the post above said, it's a pure netbook screen and is meant to be viewed as you would with a netbook. Sticking it in a tablet was a cost-cutting shortcut.
Now, if you buy a case that props it up, it helps quite a bit. I'm not dogging the gTab really, it's a great tab that just needs to come down in price a little more in light of the the Transformer's release. If you're going to spend $280+ on a tablet, I'd advise you to spring for the extra $120 that will get you a Transformer.
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If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
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Don't get me wrong. Whenever someone asks me about my gtab, I tell them it's not for them and recommend an ipad or ipad 2. I do that with pretty much everything nowadays. When people ask me I recommend them the most mainstream thing possible.
Well I don't feel so bad for directing a coworker to get an iPad 2 today She saw my Transformer and said she was looking at iPads, but she liked the widgets of Android (she has an Evo). I told her to just get an iPad, you pick it up and it's a vessel for apps, nothing more, and knowing her, I thought that was best.
But after playing with the Transformer, she's torn. So I guess that's a plus for HC, it's not as techie as I thought.
Bought one from Woot on 4/25, got it on 4/29
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Well I don't feel so bad for directing a coworker to get an iPad 2 today She saw my Transformer and said she was looking at iPads, but she liked the widgets of Android (she has an Evo). I told her to just get an iPad, you pick it up and it's a vessel for apps, nothing more, and knowing her, I thought that was best.
But after playing with the Transformer, she's torn. So I guess that's a plus for HC, it's not as techie as I thought.
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I direct people to the ipad 2 unapologetically. I'm sick of people complaining about nothing. Let apple deal with those spoiled brats.
Well I found someone who bought it and I guess they were scared to try to do any custom ROM stuff and they sold it to me for $190. I think i got a deal, I am currently reading up on it before I try anything though. I have been using Android for well over a year now, I have a captivate and I always flash the newest ROM's that come out for it. I am hoping the G Tablet is about as easy as my captivate to mod. Anyone have a favorite ROM for the G Tab, I am looking at playing Pocket Legends and games like that.
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I am hoping the G Tablet is about as easy as my captivate to mod.
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You don't need to hope. Everything about the gtab is unlocked. It is currently the most hackable device out there.
Anyone have a favorite ROM for the G Tab, I am looking at playing Pocket Legends and games like that.
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I've used them all. The one that seems to run the smoothest and fastest is the calkulin+clemsyn combo. I use the overclocked version 5 one.
That said, you really should try them all out one at a time. Again, it takes so little effort to flash a rom. Actually, it takes about 2 minutes for each rom to flash. Try each rom for a week and see how you like them.
Some people like vegan ginger because it's the latest and greatest. I personally like the fastest and most stable. Your choice.
Thank you very much for the information, i can't wait to dive in!
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You don't need to hope. Everything about the gtab is unlocked. It is currently the most hackable device out there.
I've used them all. The one that seems to run the smoothest and fastest is the calkulin+clemsyn combo. I use the overclocked version 5 one.
That said, you really should try them all out one at a time. Again, it takes so little effort to flash a rom. Actually, it takes about 2 minutes for each rom to flash. Try each rom for a week and see how you like them.
Some people like vegan ginger because it's the latest and greatest. I personally like the fastest and most stable. Your choice.
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I currently have tNt 4.4 and I like it a lot. If/when I flash another rom, would I have to load all my Apps again? I have titanium backup but even then it would take a while to load them all. That might discourage me from trying ALL the roms out
hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap? it's off brand for things i buy usually, but I've seen generally good reviews. I've also been looking at the Transformer and the Xoom. Thank you all for the help.
considering that you can get one on Ebay for under $250, I would say yes, it's most definitely worth it.
Even with Froyo roms, it's a very useful tablet that will probably do the things that you want it to do. Yes, the screen angles are not ideal, but they are acceptable (in my opinion)
Put it this way, is buying a transformer, or Xoom for almost twice as much going to be just as useless when the newest tablets come out for Christmas?
I believe that it's a question of perception. What do you want to use it for?
and who knows, when Ice Cream Sandwich gets released, it may be easier to port to the G-Tablet than Honeycomb.
Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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Wow. Very excellent explanation. I see now. Yes I will probably soon be purchasing the g tab!
PS: screw the ipad
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hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this).
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Honeycomb is not completely functional on the gtab (as of now). It is missing the Honeycomb specific drivers from Nvidia (aka full hardware acceleration, high def video).
If you really care about Honeycomb you should get the transformer IMO.
Although, I am quite happy with froyo based ROMs
Others are right in saying that quad core Tegra 3s are around the corner, Tegra 2 prices might drop by the end of the year. Given how Nvidia and Viewsonic acted regarding the gtab, I foresee support for Tegra 2s dropping drastically as newer hardware gets released.
Yeah the almost fully functioning honeycomb on here is fine for me. Should be ordering my g tab this week!
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Hello, I wrote a quick review for some guys that I work with. I am sure there are many reviews of the gtablet, but...
Here are my conclusions so far;
This thing is about the same size as the Xoom, and thicker than the IPAD. It is definitely not as sexy.
The screen is OK. It is not a high quality screen like you find on the other devices.
The processor is great, and the memory is sufficient. Things move pretty quick.
The ROM out of the box REALLY sucked. I was hoping to just deal with it, but Google had not approved the tablet so there were NO Google apps at all. Not acceptable. It took me a couple of hours to learn (last night till around 1:00am), but I replaced the stock ROM with a hacked ROM with everything I wanted.
This thing is really just a big Android phone with no phone or GPS.
I loaded up my Sony Reader software, downloaded all of my books, and then imported them into a DRM capable reader that is better.
Although there are some ROMs that support Gingerbread screens, I think I will stick with this 2.2 (or is it 2.3) Android feel.
What will I use it for?
Reading ebooks, PDFs (Scientific American, Maximum PC)
Google apps – maps, search
Kayak, hotels.com apps
Games (mostly for the kids) – I got Android Market to work
Web Browsing / some forum reading (via Tapatalk)
Personal email reading and contacts (no work email will be set up)
Maybe occasional Skype and Gotomeeting (camera sucks, so mostly audio)
News and weather
Of course, with the exception of reading the ebooks, I would always use the Macbook Pro if it were available.
So the speed and memory makes this all possible, but the experience (screen, size, build) is not equivalent to the expensive tablets.
Biggest complaints?
No GPS
Screen is not easy to see at an angle
I needed to root the thing to make it useful, which means I now need to stay on top of that and update it manually
The 10.1 device is a bit bigger / bulkier than I expected – the weight is the same as the ipad I believe.
I “can” watch videos on it (even 1080p), but moving the files would be a drag… it uses a microSD card that I would need to pop ion an adapter, or I could use the USB connection. Maybe I can find a way to do it with wifi or Bluetooth.
No USB charging… WTF??? It comes with a separate adapter that has to plug into the wall…
The screen is a 1024x600 which is similar to most pads, but it is really inferior to the Macbook Pro, and there is just something that is “fuzzy” about it.
Biggest positives?
Cheap - $269 delivered (no tax or shipping)
Fast
Should do what I want…
Next Steps…
See how much I actually use it for anything other than ebooks. If I do end up needing it more than I think, I would consider the Asus Transformer or something else new in the next year or so.
Hope this helps,
R
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hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap?
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The screen is complete crap.
You should look hard for something with a better screen around $300-$350. If you can find it, get it.
And I *like* my Gtab - but its really just for kicking around and messing with roms and android. The screen really is killer bad unless you use it only at night, head on
Honeycomb works, and works well, as well as you could hope for unsupported xda rom hacking - ie, no netflix, no Hardware acceleration, occasional stand on your head workarounds, and the possibility of sudden death... well, ok, not that last one.
Bottom line: if you can find it for $100-$200, and want to play with roms, and tweak, and screw with it a lot to get it to be as good as a $400 one except for the horrible screen that cannot be fixed, YES, this is your tablet.
If you want a tablet to take out of the box and use, with rom updates from the manufacturer, and a screen you can read ebooks off of, this is NOT your tablet. Even for free.
So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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So should I just get the transformer?
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For $400, I'd say yeah.
Better screen, 1Kx800 resolution, 2x the ram. Yeah, looks like that's all worth $120.
Oh... and a GPS too.
Oh, and Honeycomb 3.1 from Asus. Plus lots of XDA love it seems.
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So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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I think the main question is what you want the tablet for or what to do with it.
A cheap $250-300 laptop has so much more computing power and practical use than any tablet...just a bit bulkier.
The tablet market will have much more offerings and better with faster cpus and such..just have to wait a bit.
I bought my gtab from woot 4/2011 for $275. I have installed several ROMs on it. They all are pretty good with their own pluses and minuses.
I'm currently on Flashback 5.4 HC: it looks nice and works well. Gmail, Talk - w/o video; G-Voice, Maps, Lattitude, Earth etc all work. You Tube works; a bunch of games works. The big screen is better than the phone size screen. Nice quick weather apps. Nice calendar.
What it cannot do is replace the screen and functionality of my desktop for real work.
If you can find a cheap Gtab and play with ROM's, flashing, androids quirks etc - jsut for the fun of it, then get a gtab. Fully flashable with great recovery process. Almost 99.99% Non-brickable. Get a used one for play and test.
If you want a decent a functional tablet w/o hassle, get an I-pad2.
I have read many complaints about the viewing angle of the screen, but I have had my tablet for months and I have no complaints. It has replaced my planner for work and is great for watching movies, not sharing with my neighbor.