It looks like xda is really working alot on gtab, but i here the screen isnt that good. I love what xda does and android. I am running evo on cm7 and would love the tablet to be ablet to run cyanogen as well. Im just confused on what is good and not.
No help
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I noticed a hot deal for Android tablet on fatwallet. I think it's a great deal for Android 2.2 tablet based on the fantastic price and powerful spcs. The seller site is here: Freescale A8 Android 2.2 tablet
You can take a look at it and there are also many comments about this hot baby on fatwallet.
Thx but really looking for 10in screen
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Thx but really looking for 10in screen
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Not much choice in Tegra 2 ATM or even 10" altogether. If you can wait you MIGHT want to wait and see what actually does ship from what was shown at CES...
gTablet is nice and hackable, but a number of people don't like the poor viewing angles of it's LCD panel. I don't notice this much as when I use the tablet I'm looking directly at it. (Also have a Nook Color which has better viewing angles but, again, I rarely notice this because 99.999% of the time I'm looking directly at the screen...)
If manufacturer support and kernel source are important just don't buy a Chinese tablet, or at least one w/o a western re-badger supporting it, but even then only a handful have released source. There was a list compiled by someone @ Redhat the other week, check back on /. for a link. (I got the NC because I trust B&N to support the NC for a while yet at least, presuming that they don't go under, but be aware that their customer service is beyond awful... and so far Viewsonic is supporting the gTablet...)
Also, any tablet that has 3/4G is likely to be expensive in the US as they will undoubtedly be tied to a carrier(s) who will insist on a grossly overpriced MSRP such that they can look "good" when they offer a deal if purchased w/a 2y contract, however, the total cost will be MUCH higher than even the grossly overpriced unlocked one should it even be offered.
I agree with the positive comments about the G-Tablet made by others here.
Personally, I think the criticisms of the screen are overblown. I find it more than workable and simply don't do things that make it less than optimal. No question it could be better -- but at the price point I think it really is okay.
As I have said in other posts -- I bought my G-Tablets because (1) they are here NOW; (2) the price is much better than the $699-$1100 tablets that aren't even here yet; and (3) who can put a price on the fun we are having making them like we want them? If you don' want to do that then go buy a fruity-pad at way more $$$$.
If I decide I want something else later then I'll go buy it then.
IMHO!
Rev
Thx for the comments. Thought about zpad. But it is alot higher for only difference I see is resolution. I don't like how these new ones coming out are tied to carriers. I have a cell phone for gods sake. I don't need 3g. I have wifi and tethering for that
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Personally, I think the most portable size is 7" or 8". 10" is a little big to take along.
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Thought about zpad. But it is alot higher for only difference I see is resolution.
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I think they are the same resolution 1024x600
zpad does however have 3G and GPS if they are must haves for you.
For anyone interested flat compuing has 9 flatpad a-10w tablets left. Just another zpad rebadge. But with a 1366x768 screen. Having owned the gtablet too the screen is a big improvement. Oh and mine was shipped with market.
Flatcomputing.com. no i dont work for them. His just seems to be the better product.
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Daml, I gotta try and verify this with you. I noticed on their site originally they had the a10w listed as 1366x768 but now it has been changed to 1024x600. How can you be sure it has the higher resolution?
Hmm ... that FlatComputing system looks identical to the gTablet ... There is no mention of a different display and the remainder of the hardware is spec'ed identical, isn't it?
For me, I must say that I *cannot stand* the reflective surface or terrible viewing angle of the gTablet. With that said, I'd still buy a gTablet, if the cost/value factored into the mix. There just isn't a better tablet going, for the money, than gTablet *with* VEGAN.
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Daml, I gotta try and verify this with you. I noticed on their site originally they had the a10w listed as 1366x768 but now it has been changed to 1024x600. How can you be sure it has the higher resolution?
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Hmm i didnt notice it had changed. You should ask them.
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For anyone interested flat compuing has 9 flatpad a-10w tablets left. Just another zpad rebadge. But with a 1366x768 screen. Having owned the gtablet too the screen is a big improvement. Oh and mine was shipped with market.
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The one you recieved is 1366 x 768? The site says 1024 x 600. It only has 1 GB memory?
Daml: would you mind to send us some screenshots of the viewing angle? Since the hardware are very similar, if the screen is a big improvement, we may be able to replace the gtab screen with this one.
Thanks
Got my a10w from Flat Computing today. It's a rebranded Advent Vega. As a matter of fact, in the software update instructions it looks like "Find/Replace" missed a Vega reference, lol.
I can confirm that the unit is nearly identical to the G Tablet minus the capacitive buttons on the front of the panel. The screen is 1024x600 and DOES NOT have better viewing angles. My guess is the screen is IDENTICAL to the g tab.
So, needless to say, my A10W will be for sale shortly. Not because there is anything wrong, but I pretty much have no need for two identical tablets
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Got my a10w from Flat Computing today. It's a rebranded Advent Vega. As a matter of fact, in the software update instructions it looks like "Find/Replace" missed a Vega reference, lol.
I can confirm that the unit is nearly identical to the G Tablet minus the capacitive buttons on the front of the panel. The screen is 1024x600 and DOES NOT have better viewing angles. My guess is the screen is IDENTICAL to the g tab.
So, needless to say, my A10W will be for sale shortly. Not because there is anything wrong, but I pretty much have no need for two identical tablets
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It's truly rebranded, isn't ? If so, the quality should be reliable?
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This device out of the box is horrible. I am shocked that something this bad could be released. Several FC just starting up.
With the device flashed it becomes a tablet that one can use. I loved the hardware specs and how it performs but I cannot get over the screen quality.
It is the worst screen I have ever seen. At just a few degrees of axis, major color shifts appear. At 45 degrees the image becomes completely inverted. The screen is the main component on the device IMO. I will be exchanging it this week
I may pick up a nook color to hold me over till Feb-Mar when more tablets come out. At $250 it's a steal. The screen looks better than the iPad's. I know hardware wise the GTab kills it. Oh well, maybe we will have the perfect tablet sometime next year.
A big thanks to all the developers who contributed to making this device usable. Viewsonic owes you guys big time. If not for you guys they would be looking at 60%-80% return rate, again IMO.
well i paid full price and sales tax for my g tablet. its a great device if you can overlook a few things. viewsonic not releasing kernel source yet and the store i bought the g tablet at backing out of selling the product has me on the fence......wait just got a tweet from viewsonic ViewSonic ViewSonic Corp
We will get s/w update out ASAP. We're also releasing the kernel this week. The gTablet should NEVER have been pulled.
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This device out of the box is horrible. I am shocked that something this bad could be released. Several FC just starting up.
With the device flashed it becomes a tablet that one can use. I loved the hardware specs and how it performs but I cannot get over the screen quality.
It is the worst screen I have ever seen. At just a few degrees of axis, major color shifts appear. At 45 degrees the image becomes completely inverted. The screen is the main component on the device IMO. I will be exchanging it this week
I may pick up a nook color to hold me over till Feb-Mar when more tablets come out. At $250 it's a steal. The screen looks better than the iPad's. I know hardware wise the GTab kills it. Oh well, maybe we will have the perfect tablet sometime next year.
A big thanks to all the developers who contributed to making this device usable. Viewsonic owes you guys big time. If not for you guys they would be looking at 60%-80% return rate, again IMO.
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Guess it depends on how you normally view the device. I look at mine from slightly above, or left or right. Looking up to the device is rough, unless only like black & white images
For $350, nothing ATM touches this device:
Solid and fast locking wifi
Twice as fast (at least) as most non Tegra 2 devices
16gb internal
Easy mods
USB host
I am happy to not be able to look up to the device, considering what I got for the price, but the Nook is nice, if mainly reading and light browsing.
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Guess it depends on how you normally view the device. I look at mine from slightly above, or left or right. Looking up to the device is rough, unless only like black & white images
For $350, nothing ATM touches this device:
Solid and fast locking wifi
Twice as fast (at least) as most non Tegra 2 devices
16gb internal
Easy mods
USB host
I am happy to not be able to look up to the device, considering what I got for the price, but the Nook is nice, if mainly reading and light browsing.
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That's the other problem, I wanted the device to read, watch movies (720P) and use the emulators to play old nes games with a wiiMote via bluetooth. I know the nook color isn't up to the task. Maybe I'll just wait...
If only the G tab had a usable screen. You would think from a display company at least?? I guess everyone jumped on the TN panel bandwagon. Except for Apple, we all know how terrible they are doing. I would have easily paid $500+ if this device had an IPS panel or comparable display.
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That's the other problem, I wanted the device to read, watch movies (720P) and use the emulators to play old nes games with a wiiMote via bluetooth. I know the nook color isn't up to the task. Maybe I'll just wait...
If only the G tab had a usable screen. You would think from a display company at least?? I guess everyone jumped on the TN panel bandwagon. Except for Apple, we all know how terrible they are doing. I would have easily paid $500+ if this device had an IPS panel or comparable display.
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you can put in a nice LCD for $50.
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you can put in a nice LCD for $50.
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I know there's been chat about that, but has anyone actually done this? I would totally do this if I knew it was actually successful - my concerns are that the screen is too thick or the connectors are wrong.
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I know there's been chat about that, but has anyone actually done this? I would totally do this if I knew it was actually successful - my concerns are that the screen is too thick or the connectors are wrong.
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I read through all his links he provided in another thread but found nothing definative
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you can put in a nice LCD for $50.
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Link please...
Who has done this?
What is a "nice" LCD?
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I wanted the device to read, watch movies (720P) and use the emulators to play old nes games with a wiiMote via bluetooth.
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nook color gets you 1 of 3. If you are giving up 2 out of 3 why not just save yourself $100 and get a nook which makes for a vastly better ereader. You also might want to read up on 'bad pixel' issues with the nook c. The grass is always greener.
Oh, and for all those compelled to start a new thread telling us you are returning the gtablet don't forget to let us know what store to check for your open box return
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nook color gets you 1 of 3. If you are giving up 2 out of 3 why not just save yourself $100 and get a nook which makes for a vastly better ereader. You also might want to read up on 'bad pixel' issues with the nook c. The grass is always greener.
Oh, and for all those compelled to start a new thread telling us you are returning the gtablet don't forget to let us know what store to check for your open box return
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It will be the Sears's in Montclair, California. Unless someone can provide me a link to purchase a 10.1 LCD so I can swap out panels.
I would be interested also
http://www.sunvalleyus.com/10.1-Inch-Panel/
I found these but how do we know if they fit? Also, they do not say anything about screen quality. How would I even know if I am just replacing a horrible panel for another?
Anyone?
I can't post links yet, but blisscomputers.net had some good prices on replacement panels. In other threads there was discussion about getting one with a better resolution (as well as viewing angle) but I'm not sure how that would work right now. Might need the kernal source to get it to work.
I'd probably get one if it works.
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It will be the Sears's in Montclair, California. Unless someone can provide me a link to purchase a 10.1 LCD so I can swap out panels.
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Dude, that's where I got mine!!! haha. Hi neighbor.
I would just wait instead of getting the nook color. I don't see why anyone would prefer a non-tegra 2 device after seeing what this tablet can do.
Save your money because the next tegra 2 devices are going to be at least $500. You know how people are always looking for a cheap Android tablet, this is one of the tablets that they are going to suggest when all the other tegra 2 tablets are out.
So, I've been doing my due diligence before deciding...and have spent a good many hours reading up here in the GTab XDA forums. So, now I'm asking for some earnest / honest advice from the community here...
I own an Archos 70 IT currently, and it's a blast. Gonna hand it off to the wife, and want a 10 inch Tablet for myself. Do I take the chance now with the GTab...or wait a few months for the new onslaught of Tablets with Honeycomb pre-installed?
I'm wanting the Tegra2 base...and am hearing that while the GTab is dismal out-of-the-box, Devs are cranking out ROM goodness to improve on the shoddy UI, etc.
I'm pretty Flash savvy, as I also own a Galaxy S Vibrant. So no concerns there. However, having said that...I worry about the manufacturers ability to deliver once Honeycomb is released. Samsung STILL hasn't released Android 2.2 Froyo for my device!!
Whatcha think? Should I take the plunge? Thanks in advance for you suggestions!
**EDIT - Just found another similar post....so feel free not to comment - oopsy?**
I recently sold my gtablet and purchased the flat computing a10w. Its essentially a rebrand with a 1366x768 screen, hdmi, better rom. Etc. Same price too.
I couldnt reccomend the gtablet... the a10w im more than happy to.
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I've had my G Tablet for 3 days now and really like it. I did use it before the firmware update and see a big difference in performance with the new firmware. I loaded a bunch of pictures and a movie tonight on its internal memory and all plays well. I would recommend the G Tablet, I think this is turning out to be a nice tablet.
Regards!
Ed
daml said:
I recently sold my gtablet and purchased the flat computing a10w. Its essentially a rebrand with a 1366x768 screen, hdmi, better rom. Etc. Same price too.
I couldnt reccomend the gtablet... the a10w im more than happy to.
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I tried to find info on this.
If it does in deed have the 1366/769 screen and an hdmi out for the same price, it might be worth a look. The rest of the specs are identical.
However, i found confilicting info. One article on it said it had the same 1024x600 and appeared to me just to be a rebranded gtab basically.
Also THIS post on xda says it just 1024x600
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=816719
Does it really come with 1G of ram? If so, thats a nice feature (along with the higer res screen).
Edit: That is the A10T so maybe the A10W does have 1366/768, not bad for the money.
Does it have dev support like the Gtab?
Not worth it if you cant root it to honeycomb this spring (like is suspect you will be able to with the gtab).
At this point i see no subforum for the flatpad so suppor alone would be an issue to make me hesitant to buy it.....
G-tablet + custom rom = awesome!
The stock firmware is horrible. I had it out of the box for 5 minutes before I loaded vegan onto it.
There are 2 models. A10t with 1024, gb ram, 8 gb internal and A10w with 1366, 512 ram and 512 internal. Roms, hacks etc from the gtablet should be 99% comatible. All that will be needed is to change the screen resolution, and to setup hdmi.u
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If a Honeycomb tablet is your goal, then it seems that you either wait until machines that REALLY have Honeycomb on them are available, or you get one that you think should be able to run it AND has great community support AND is hackable, including infrastructure things like tools, etc.
I think that the Gtab is one of the few that makes the latter...
If you go the former way, even then, you're going to have to watch out for tabs that are so locked down (saw an article that Samsung was thinking of making their devices unrootable) that you're stuck w the manufacturer's upgrade schedule.
Jim
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If a Honeycomb tablet is your goal, then it seems that you either wait until machines that REALLY have Honeycomb on them are available, or you get one that you think should be able to run it AND has great community support AND is hackable, including infrastructure things like tools, etc.
I think that the Gtab is one of the few that makes the latter...
If you go the former way, even then, you're going to have to watch out for tabs that are so locked down (saw an article that Samsung was thinking of making their devices unrootable) that you're stuck w the manufacturer's upgrade schedule.
Jim
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Well said...and you nailed it on the head. After my experiences with Samsung, and the constant delays I was kind of looking forward to a product that worked as intended out-of-the-box. However, knowing the industry these days...any immediate release with 3.0 is gonna be anti-user friendly for the most part. Especially considering the big names releasing them. Seems like the good ones are gonna be tied into carriers anyways...lame-sauce.
All I've seen here has really helped me make up my mind for the GTab. Plus, I do thoroughly enjoy flashing some ROM goodness! Thanks for the info all!
Its like getting a new tablet going from vegan to tntlite and back and forth. I'm glad I have one to mess around with.
I can't even begin to think of the ways the various companies are going to screw with the newer honeycomb models. It seems like to them the dual cores are just an excuse to have 100s of things running at once and the end result is its just as slow as before.
I'm interested in flat computing. Sent them an email to ask about their lcd panel they use in the 1366x768.
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There are 2 models. A10t with 1024, gb ram, 8 gb internal and A10w with 1366, 512 ram and 512 internal. Roms, hacks etc from the gtablet should be 99% comatible. All that will be needed is to change the screen resolution, and to setup hdmi.u
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I just ordered an LG screen per your recommendation in another thread and now I have to know,
Does the a10w have SIGNIFICANTLY better viewing angles than the gtab in stock form ?
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I recently sold my gtablet and purchased the flat computing a10w. Its essentially a rebrand with a 1366x768 screen, hdmi, better rom. Etc. Same price too.
I couldnt reccomend the gtablet... the a10w im more than happy to.
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Did you receive your FlatPad yet? I am very interested to hear your comment on the quality of the sceen.
Thanks.
the gtab has not the best screen but otherwise is a pretty good piece of hardware that should get honeycomb one way or another once it gets released. i wish it had gps, a viewsonic dock, and a viewsonic case.
It's completely possible to be happy with the Gtab but it depends on what your looking for.
I personally find it a great peice of hardware, and it along with my G2 work together very well. I find I don't need to be attatched to my PC near as much were I would look something up on my desktop because the G2 screen was just to small. The Gtab screen is fine, I showed it to my friend and he said "I don't know what the people on the forums are complaining about".
Now if your wanting a tablet that is going to be top of the line for more than a year you are going to be waiting awhile, the tablet race is going to move very fast for a year or 2 until we get to a stable level with 2-3 major competing brands.
To me the Gtab is a great tablet with plenty of hardware to hold me over for that year or 2 until I find that stable platform that will be good for 2-3 years or more.
Of course I go from buying new products (went through 3 android phones in 6 months) to using a product for 3-5 years because it works well enough for what I need.
Agreed -- paired with an Android phone, this tablet is great value for dollars...
For me, the screen is the biggest shortcoming -- but as someone else pointed out, in some ways, the reduced viewing angle could be considered a "feature" if you are worried about security (i.e. someone looking over your shoulder)
At home, that isn't a concern for me so I would prefer an IPS screen or AMOLED (as in my phone) to be able to share the tablet for video playing...but the current screen isn't unusable so I'll live with it...
GPS would have been nice -- but I can pair with my Android phone and it works fine
I doubt I would ever use the tablet as a camera (especially when I have a 5MP camera in my phone and a 10+ MP "real camera") -- so again, the weak FF camera is fine if we ever get VideoCalls working properly...
I would have preferred a full size SDCard slot to the microSDCard...or even support for SDXC (new standard)...but small gripes...
Overall, there is nothing wrong with the hardware -- and the Devs here have made the software competitive with anything out there...Honeycomb will only make it better!
As an aside, I would like to see the soft buttons on the left hand side from TNT (and TNTLite) brought over to Vegan (which mas the soft buttons on the right top of the notification bar)...The TNT soft buttons are very similar to what has been shown in Honeycomb (which had theirs in the bottom left)
So I have had a Nook color for a few months and it's defective... I have Barnes and Nobles shipping me a new one and now I find myself with a dilemma.
At this point I will have a new Nook Color that I can either sell for retail and then buy a new Gtablet or keep it and keep using it until the Xoom comes down in price.
The problem is that looking at the forums it looks like the gtablet isn't exactly as fail-proof as far as the Nook Color is. And I personally like to constantly test the limits of my electronics.
So do I keep the beautiful screened, slower nook color or do I get the not as nice lcd, tablet that is two times faster?
I think the screen on the gtab gets a bad rap. Yeah the viewing angles are not good, but I can count on 2 fingers the number of times I've wanted to view the screen together with someone else. when the tablet is positioned properly in front of me it looks fine. This tablet does everything I need it too and then some... Plus the battery life is stellar.
So my vote would be for the gtab, but I'm biased.
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So I have had a Nook color for a few months and it's defective... I have Barnes and Nobles shipping me a new one and now I find myself with a dilemma.
At this point I will have a new Nook Color that I can either sell for retail and then buy a new Gtablet or keep it and keep using it until the Xoom comes down in price.
The problem is that looking at the forums it looks like the gtablet isn't exactly as fail-proof as far as the Nook Color is. And I personally like to constantly test the limits of my electronics.
So do I keep the beautiful screened, slower nook color or do I get the not as nice lcd, tablet that is two times faster?
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Not sure why you say the G-Tablet isn't as fail proof? If you take the time to read some threads here you'll see the G-Tablet is just about un-brickable. I own both devices and I prefer the G-Tablet even with the diminished viewing angles. The Nook is a cool device, my wife loves hers, it's just not powerful enough for my taste. Thanks to the hard work of the developers here at XDA the G-Tablet rocks.
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Oh awesome! =) I read a few, guess I just read the wrong ones lol. Doesn't help that I don't quite know the lingo and roms yet for this tablet. Definitely thinking about getting it.
If you like the screen of the nook then wait for another device. I sold the Gtab because of the screen and got a Nook. The screen is horrible in comparison. There are IPS tablets coming soon.
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So do I keep the beautiful screened, slower nook color or do I get the not as nice lcd, tablet that is two times faster?
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I own both devices. Unless you have a compelling need for a 10" tablet (ie: it's hard to read the Nook), then I recommend you keep the nook, ROM it with Phiremod or another CM7 version and wait until the new larger tablets come out.
I love my G-Tablet, but it soon will be very very outclassed by other devices. Asus EEEpad, for instance.
For the price g tablet is a damn good tablet
Screen or speed?
Got both. Love them both for different reasons.
NC really has a nice screen with good viewing angles. 7" sometimes is just right as well. When you OC it, it does perform pretty well also.
Gtab's just a pure speed demon. Despite a few annoyances (viewing angle from the bottom, lack of accessories, etc) it really works very well once you install a custom ROM. I'm currently using Vegan-GB. For games, it really makes a difference compared to NC.
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Got both. Love them both for different reasons.
NC really has a nice screen with good viewing angles. 7" sometimes is just right as well. When you OC it, it does perform pretty well also.
Gtab's just a pure speed demon. Despite a few annoyances (viewing angle from the bottom, lack of accessories, etc) it really works very well once you install a custom ROM. I'm currently using Vegan-GB. For games, it really makes a difference compared to NC.
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Same as above. Love the Nook Color because of portability, love the Gtab because I can keep it on the end table and it is always in reach. Both have their goods/bads and have their respective places in my Android Arsenal. LOL
My opinion:
You own a Nook already. Keep it and wait for the next gen of Tablets. If it was purely a "should I buy a Nook or a Gtab" I'd say buy the GTab.
The screen is *NOT* as bad as everyone loves to say it is and it's certainly significantly larger than the Nook.
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I love my G-Tablet, but it soon will be very very outclassed by other devices. Asus EEEpad, for instance.
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I'm not so thrilled about the eeepad. For one thing, it will be designed like a netbook. I really have a bad feeling about it.
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I'm not so thrilled about the eeepad. For one thing, it will be designed like a netbook. I really have a bad feeling about it.
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I'm more interested in the Transformer (minus the laptop dock thiny). It looks like the price is going to be closer to what everyone else is charging, rather than their initial pricing of $399 though.
And Samsung comes in for the win (FTW). 8.9 and 10.1 in tabs, $469/$499 respectively, most likely IPS screens. Unknown yet, but assumed to be Tegra 2, with Honeycomb.
I'm still happy with my $350 purchase, but it's nice to see someone competing with Apple finally (and making life difficult for Motorola, as I hate them)
i have a nook color and a gtab and if i had to choose between them i would pick the gtab every time but thats just my opinion
moofi. woot. com/moofi/deliciouswaffles
get rid of the spaces in the link .
I bought one on Friday. Still hasn't shipped :-(
Me and Woot have a love/hate relationship.
I don't get it. There is no design flaw. Why are they trying to dump this product? If they are really trying to dump this product for a newer model, the newer model better be able to sing and dance.
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I don't get it. There is no design flaw. Why are they trying to dump this product? If they are really trying to dump this product for a newer model, the newer model better be able to sing and dance.
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They are not dumping it, its just being priced competitively given the availability $400 IPS tegra 2, HC Asus Transformer.
Any way amazon's deal (via woot) was way better given it was $280 to your door step (no taxes or shipping fees).
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They are not dumping it, its just being priced competitively given the availability $400 IPS tegra 2, HC Asus Transformer.
Any way amazon's deal (via woot) was way better given it was $280 to your door step (no taxes or shipping fees).
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Priced better? You're saying they are preemptively striking all the other tegra 2's that are coming out this/next month?
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I don't get it. There is no design flaw
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Well, I can think of one giant design flaw that marred an otherwise great tablet (hey, let's take the most important part of the tablet and make it really, really, really crappy!). I would not be surprised to see this sucker at $200 new within the next couple of months with the onslaught of HC tablets hitting the market at sub-$500 prices.
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Well, I can think of one giant design flaw that marred an otherwise great tablet (hey, let's take the most important part of the tablet and make it really, really, really crappy!). I would not be surprised to see this sucker at $200 new within the next couple of months with the onslaught of HC tablets hitting the market at sub-$500 prices.
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You're talking about the screen? I've had my gtab for a couple months now. Been taking it everywhere with me. In fact, myself and a couple others from the lab attended a meeting to share our designs and experiments at a meeting. I whipped out the gtab and began sharing our autocad drawings and calculations. People were impressed. A few asked intently about my tablet.
The point is I've had no problem at all with the screen. I don't understand why people are crying bloody murder about this aspect of it. May be because you guys are spoiled?
To me, this is not a design flaw. It's not even a weakness. It just is. It makes the gtab different.
I have the Asus now, and I guess you just don't know what you're missing until you've seen a superior screen in the flesh. My jaw literally dropped when I turned it on. Straight-on, the gTab has a great screen, but the viewing angles are terrible, and I consider that a design flaw, as in they went really cheap with the screen. The Acer A500 does not have an IPS screen, yet its viewing angles are almost comparable to the Transformer, so it is possible. Whoever manufactured the gTab just cut corners on the most crucial part of a tablet.
If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
Kinda wish I'd kept mine another week so I could post the difference so you could see for yourself, but I don't suppose it matters
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You're talking about the screen? I've had my gtab for a couple months now. Been taking it everywhere with me. In fact, myself and a couple others from the lab attended a meeting to share our designs and experiments at a meeting. I whipped out the gtab and began sharing our autocad drawings and calculations. People were impressed. A few asked intently about my tablet.
The point is I've had no problem at all with the screen. I don't understand why people are crying bloody murder about this aspect of it. May be because you guys are spoiled?
To me, this is not a design flaw. It's not even a weakness. It just is. It makes the gtab different.
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I am looking at buying this tablet, what is everyone saying about the screen?
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I have the Asus now, and I guess you just don't know what you're missing until you've seen a superior screen in the flesh. My jaw literally dropped when I turned it on. Straight-on, the gTab has a great screen, but the viewing angles are terrible, and I consider that a design flaw, as in they went really cheap with the screen. The Acer A500 does not have an IPS screen, yet its viewing angles are almost comparable to the Transformer, so it is possible. Whoever manufactured the gTab just cut corners on the most crucial part of a tablet.
If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
Kinda wish I'd kept mine another week so I could post the difference so you could see for yourself, but I don't suppose it matters
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I have an iPad2, the gTablet, an Acer netbook, a Dell laptop, and a 2010 MacBookPro.
The gTablet uses the exact same LCD as the acer Netbook. You can tell the screen is designed for a slightly off center nearly dead on viewing angle, and if you hold it so, it's quite fine.
You won't be able to see much at more than 10-15 degrees off center left/right (in landscape) or up/down (portrait)
It is what it is. It's not an iPad. It's not the $120 more Asus. It's the cheapest Tegra2 with great modding support here at xda you can buy. I wouldn't spend more than $280 on it, but for $280 its great.
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Priced better? You're saying they are preemptively striking all the other tegra 2's that are coming out this/next month?
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There is nothing preemptive about it, the Asus transformer is already out there (NA release) and for even longer in EU, and the $399 NA price was already officially announced more than a month ago.
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I wouldn't spend more than $280 on it,
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Thats the whole point, and I guess retailers do clearly see that.
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I am looking at buying this tablet, what is everyone saying about the screen?
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If you look at it straight-on, it is a great screen. If you look at it few degrees left or right, it loses quality but is still viewable. A few more degrees, and things become mushy. Tilt it slightly vertically and that's where the frustration really begins -- imagine those psychedelic videos where colors transform and turn negative. Like the post above said, it's a pure netbook screen and is meant to be viewed as you would with a netbook. Sticking it in a tablet was a cost-cutting shortcut.
Now, if you buy a case that props it up, it helps quite a bit. I'm not dogging the gTab really, it's a great tab that just needs to come down in price a little more in light of the the Transformer's release. If you're going to spend $280+ on a tablet, I'd advise you to spring for the extra $120 that will get you a Transformer.
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If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
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Don't get me wrong. Whenever someone asks me about my gtab, I tell them it's not for them and recommend an ipad or ipad 2. I do that with pretty much everything nowadays. When people ask me I recommend them the most mainstream thing possible.
Well I don't feel so bad for directing a coworker to get an iPad 2 today She saw my Transformer and said she was looking at iPads, but she liked the widgets of Android (she has an Evo). I told her to just get an iPad, you pick it up and it's a vessel for apps, nothing more, and knowing her, I thought that was best.
But after playing with the Transformer, she's torn. So I guess that's a plus for HC, it's not as techie as I thought.
Bought one from Woot on 4/25, got it on 4/29
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Well I don't feel so bad for directing a coworker to get an iPad 2 today She saw my Transformer and said she was looking at iPads, but she liked the widgets of Android (she has an Evo). I told her to just get an iPad, you pick it up and it's a vessel for apps, nothing more, and knowing her, I thought that was best.
But after playing with the Transformer, she's torn. So I guess that's a plus for HC, it's not as techie as I thought.
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I direct people to the ipad 2 unapologetically. I'm sick of people complaining about nothing. Let apple deal with those spoiled brats.
Well I found someone who bought it and I guess they were scared to try to do any custom ROM stuff and they sold it to me for $190. I think i got a deal, I am currently reading up on it before I try anything though. I have been using Android for well over a year now, I have a captivate and I always flash the newest ROM's that come out for it. I am hoping the G Tablet is about as easy as my captivate to mod. Anyone have a favorite ROM for the G Tab, I am looking at playing Pocket Legends and games like that.
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I am hoping the G Tablet is about as easy as my captivate to mod.
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You don't need to hope. Everything about the gtab is unlocked. It is currently the most hackable device out there.
Anyone have a favorite ROM for the G Tab, I am looking at playing Pocket Legends and games like that.
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I've used them all. The one that seems to run the smoothest and fastest is the calkulin+clemsyn combo. I use the overclocked version 5 one.
That said, you really should try them all out one at a time. Again, it takes so little effort to flash a rom. Actually, it takes about 2 minutes for each rom to flash. Try each rom for a week and see how you like them.
Some people like vegan ginger because it's the latest and greatest. I personally like the fastest and most stable. Your choice.
Thank you very much for the information, i can't wait to dive in!
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You don't need to hope. Everything about the gtab is unlocked. It is currently the most hackable device out there.
I've used them all. The one that seems to run the smoothest and fastest is the calkulin+clemsyn combo. I use the overclocked version 5 one.
That said, you really should try them all out one at a time. Again, it takes so little effort to flash a rom. Actually, it takes about 2 minutes for each rom to flash. Try each rom for a week and see how you like them.
Some people like vegan ginger because it's the latest and greatest. I personally like the fastest and most stable. Your choice.
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I currently have tNt 4.4 and I like it a lot. If/when I flash another rom, would I have to load all my Apps again? I have titanium backup but even then it would take a while to load them all. That might discourage me from trying ALL the roms out
hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap? it's off brand for things i buy usually, but I've seen generally good reviews. I've also been looking at the Transformer and the Xoom. Thank you all for the help.
considering that you can get one on Ebay for under $250, I would say yes, it's most definitely worth it.
Even with Froyo roms, it's a very useful tablet that will probably do the things that you want it to do. Yes, the screen angles are not ideal, but they are acceptable (in my opinion)
Put it this way, is buying a transformer, or Xoom for almost twice as much going to be just as useless when the newest tablets come out for Christmas?
I believe that it's a question of perception. What do you want to use it for?
and who knows, when Ice Cream Sandwich gets released, it may be easier to port to the G-Tablet than Honeycomb.
Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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Wow. Very excellent explanation. I see now. Yes I will probably soon be purchasing the g tab!
PS: screw the ipad
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gobluewolverines4 said:
hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this).
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Honeycomb is not completely functional on the gtab (as of now). It is missing the Honeycomb specific drivers from Nvidia (aka full hardware acceleration, high def video).
If you really care about Honeycomb you should get the transformer IMO.
Although, I am quite happy with froyo based ROMs
Others are right in saying that quad core Tegra 3s are around the corner, Tegra 2 prices might drop by the end of the year. Given how Nvidia and Viewsonic acted regarding the gtab, I foresee support for Tegra 2s dropping drastically as newer hardware gets released.
Yeah the almost fully functioning honeycomb on here is fine for me. Should be ordering my g tab this week!
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Hello, I wrote a quick review for some guys that I work with. I am sure there are many reviews of the gtablet, but...
Here are my conclusions so far;
This thing is about the same size as the Xoom, and thicker than the IPAD. It is definitely not as sexy.
The screen is OK. It is not a high quality screen like you find on the other devices.
The processor is great, and the memory is sufficient. Things move pretty quick.
The ROM out of the box REALLY sucked. I was hoping to just deal with it, but Google had not approved the tablet so there were NO Google apps at all. Not acceptable. It took me a couple of hours to learn (last night till around 1:00am), but I replaced the stock ROM with a hacked ROM with everything I wanted.
This thing is really just a big Android phone with no phone or GPS.
I loaded up my Sony Reader software, downloaded all of my books, and then imported them into a DRM capable reader that is better.
Although there are some ROMs that support Gingerbread screens, I think I will stick with this 2.2 (or is it 2.3) Android feel.
What will I use it for?
Reading ebooks, PDFs (Scientific American, Maximum PC)
Google apps – maps, search
Kayak, hotels.com apps
Games (mostly for the kids) – I got Android Market to work
Web Browsing / some forum reading (via Tapatalk)
Personal email reading and contacts (no work email will be set up)
Maybe occasional Skype and Gotomeeting (camera sucks, so mostly audio)
News and weather
Of course, with the exception of reading the ebooks, I would always use the Macbook Pro if it were available.
So the speed and memory makes this all possible, but the experience (screen, size, build) is not equivalent to the expensive tablets.
Biggest complaints?
No GPS
Screen is not easy to see at an angle
I needed to root the thing to make it useful, which means I now need to stay on top of that and update it manually
The 10.1 device is a bit bigger / bulkier than I expected – the weight is the same as the ipad I believe.
I “can” watch videos on it (even 1080p), but moving the files would be a drag… it uses a microSD card that I would need to pop ion an adapter, or I could use the USB connection. Maybe I can find a way to do it with wifi or Bluetooth.
No USB charging… WTF??? It comes with a separate adapter that has to plug into the wall…
The screen is a 1024x600 which is similar to most pads, but it is really inferior to the Macbook Pro, and there is just something that is “fuzzy” about it.
Biggest positives?
Cheap - $269 delivered (no tax or shipping)
Fast
Should do what I want…
Next Steps…
See how much I actually use it for anything other than ebooks. If I do end up needing it more than I think, I would consider the Asus Transformer or something else new in the next year or so.
Hope this helps,
R
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hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap?
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The screen is complete crap.
You should look hard for something with a better screen around $300-$350. If you can find it, get it.
And I *like* my Gtab - but its really just for kicking around and messing with roms and android. The screen really is killer bad unless you use it only at night, head on
Honeycomb works, and works well, as well as you could hope for unsupported xda rom hacking - ie, no netflix, no Hardware acceleration, occasional stand on your head workarounds, and the possibility of sudden death... well, ok, not that last one.
Bottom line: if you can find it for $100-$200, and want to play with roms, and tweak, and screw with it a lot to get it to be as good as a $400 one except for the horrible screen that cannot be fixed, YES, this is your tablet.
If you want a tablet to take out of the box and use, with rom updates from the manufacturer, and a screen you can read ebooks off of, this is NOT your tablet. Even for free.
So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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So should I just get the transformer?
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For $400, I'd say yeah.
Better screen, 1Kx800 resolution, 2x the ram. Yeah, looks like that's all worth $120.
Oh... and a GPS too.
Oh, and Honeycomb 3.1 from Asus. Plus lots of XDA love it seems.
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So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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I think the main question is what you want the tablet for or what to do with it.
A cheap $250-300 laptop has so much more computing power and practical use than any tablet...just a bit bulkier.
The tablet market will have much more offerings and better with faster cpus and such..just have to wait a bit.
I bought my gtab from woot 4/2011 for $275. I have installed several ROMs on it. They all are pretty good with their own pluses and minuses.
I'm currently on Flashback 5.4 HC: it looks nice and works well. Gmail, Talk - w/o video; G-Voice, Maps, Lattitude, Earth etc all work. You Tube works; a bunch of games works. The big screen is better than the phone size screen. Nice quick weather apps. Nice calendar.
What it cannot do is replace the screen and functionality of my desktop for real work.
If you can find a cheap Gtab and play with ROM's, flashing, androids quirks etc - jsut for the fun of it, then get a gtab. Fully flashable with great recovery process. Almost 99.99% Non-brickable. Get a used one for play and test.
If you want a decent a functional tablet w/o hassle, get an I-pad2.
I have read many complaints about the viewing angle of the screen, but I have had my tablet for months and I have no complaints. It has replaced my planner for work and is great for watching movies, not sharing with my neighbor.