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I got some extra money to blow...Nook color or Gtab?
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Gtab!!!
You can put the Nook application on it along with Kindle. I also recomend using one of the custom ROM's.
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I got some extra money to blow...Nook color or Gtab?
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I love my G-Tab, but I am thinking about getting my wife a Nook Color. The only problem is that B&N has stopped shipments of the Nook Color and are trying to stop sales because of the supposed "bug"...Whatever! They are trying to stop peeps from flashing ROMS to make them better. For pricing, Nook is cheaper but you can find the G-Tab at some Sears outlet store for about $280. Even after ROMs and Mods, G-Tab is worth the $$$. On my G-Tab I am running Tnt-Lite but I am looking at Vegan, seems to be a lot better.
Thanks for the replys. I have had my my face buried on the fasicnate forums and am wondering one thing. I am new to this forum. If and when the source to honeycomb is released probably after the xoom is released...do you think there will be development for the gtab for honeycomb. What is your opinions of the development experience with the gtab, from what I see there is a force of devs that work on the gtab.
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I had the same question.
I was wondering the same thing, and I chose the g tablet. Probably because I bought a used one for $260 and the hardware is way better then the nook's. I'd go with the Gtab too, because when honeycomb does get running on this baby, It will be up there with the xoom. It has a great processor and it won't be outdated for atleast 6 months.
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I was wondering the same thing, and I chose the g tablet. Probably because I bought a used one for $260 and the hardware is way better then the nook's. I'd go with the Gtab too, because when honeycomb does get running on this baby, It will be up there with the xoom. It has a great processor and it won't be outdated for atleast 6 months.
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Thanks for the reply...I think I am going out right now to get one at office depot. I called and they got two in stock, I don't want to pay the 700 for the Xoom and I don't want to wait till the 24th lol.
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I have to agree with whatsupwithhuman... My story is that I have been an android man since the day the Samsung Moment came out. I made the mistake of buying into the hype that is the iPad and just two weeks ago gave up on it... which brings me to my current state of shopping. I spent the last two weeks looking at both of these. The nook already runs 3.0 but the G Tablet has the Tegra2 on its side... and I have a very strong feeling that a few people in the community here will provide us an outstanding honeycomb rom for the G Tablet. With that being said I just ordered one, have already chosen my ROM, TNT4.2.1 and am downloading that as we speak.
My opinion is that the Nook has a lot of people looking at it so to its benefit someone has it partially working with Honeycomb.
However, the hardware is better on the Gtablet and there is an active community so I am happily in the Gtab camp.
Nook versus GTablet
I like my Gtablet but it certainly is not without significant effort. I happen to like all of that hands on stuff, triumphantly getting something to work. But, my wife's nook works great as an ereader, has a great screen and viewing angle, is more portable and accesses the internet just fine. She has had no issues. I would say they are two different machines and experiences. B&N has updated her nook just once but I hadn't touched it with respect to altering the operation system. It is not running 3.0 as indicated earlier. I suspect it will continue along to the 3.0 path but since B&N would want you to continue to use their market store (when it gets released) it will come seriously handcuffed. That said, works out of the box.
So the decision may come down to:
7" or 10"
Nicer viewing angles or netbook type viewing angles
$250 versus $399 (or $270 if you can find it on return somewhere)
Out of the box complete or on-going tweaking
Less than a pound or great than a pound weight
No input/output or USB input/output and SD card
Notice I didn't give any of those attributes a positive or negative. To each their own. I am happy that I have the gtablet, continue to like to play with it, someday I will probably get bored with that and just want it to work. Still missing tethering with my blackberry, a decent video conferencing solution, a hdmi cable out, LAN connection. It is getting there week by week. So I have the patience to wait and work on it.
Nook Color aval at Walmart $248.00 Has IPS (in-plane switching) technology is the highest performance lcd panel avaliable today. http://www.walmart.com/ip/NOOKcolor-by-Barnes-and-Noble/15411727
Avalaible in stork on check locations
Hope this helps
Been running the Gtab since about day 1 and my biggest gripe is where the Nook shines - the screen. Bought my SO one for xmas, rooted it after a few weeks, and she loves it. No camera or bluetooth, but I rarely use either on the Gtab. TBH, I enjoy tinkering with the Nook more but have to use caution as she needs it to be stable while I've had times where I've tried 2 or 3 ROMS in one day. I'm dying to try out the honeycomb release for the Nook and have been looking around for a good deal on a used one.
As to the question by the OP, if you've narrowed it down to these 2, I'd say the GTab if you're in to tinkering and customizing, and the Nook if picture quality and stability (OOB) is priority.
My $.02
Tony
I ended up buying a Gtab...and man WoW. I really love this thing. I went ahead and installed the Vegan...WoW. I have had to do some tweaking to get my swype that I love so much on my fascinate...but I got that accomplished with one google search. I was having problems with Grooveshark...again one search on here and presto. I also have tried angry birds and also dungeon defenders...they both worked flawlessly. I am happy so far. Thanks for all the input from everyone.
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Congrats on your new addition! I have both NC and GTab. As a old MS guy (back to DOS 3.3) figured I needed to embrace Android. Anyway, both units super-serve my needs. The NC screen is without doubt fabulous. Been reading that it's been OC'ed to 1.1 Ghz and rooted with all the bells & whistles of froyo. I'm standing pat to see what BN releases OTA until I move. The GTab is tons of fun and (so far) more scalable. Bottom line for me, when I read -> NC. Play/Learn -> GTab. HTH!
Das_Negros said:
I love my G-Tab, but I am thinking about getting my wife a Nook Color. The only problem is that B&N has stopped shipments of the Nook Color and are trying to stop sales because of the supposed "bug"...
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I'm dying to try out the honeycomb release for the Nook and have been looking around for a good deal on a used one.
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The Nook color is available again on the B&N website - ships in 24 hrs. They were never pulled from stores in my area. I doubt they could have made it unhackable this fast.
If you get in on the groupon thing ($20 B&N gift cards for $10) and get lucky getting B&N to accept multiples of them you can get a nook color for $125. Some people have got 3 or 4 (or more?) this way. I was able to order one by phone. It took 10 minutes to read all the gift card codes to the CSR. Even though I have a G-tab couldn't pass up a tablet with an IPS screen for this price. I will still keep my G-tab though.
wow did the groupon really work?
Yeah does this really work? You can only buy one at a time per e-mail I guess so you would need 12 or 13 of them to get it for $125??
I really liked the gtab except for the screen. The viewing angles are horrible. You pretty much have to have the device right in front of your face in order to use it. Its to bad really because its a really cool device and the specs on the hardware are awesome. I wish it was $50-$100 more and came with a better screen. I ended up returning it to office depot yesterday and I am really disapointed. Its a really cool device but I am just one of those people that couldn't get over how bad the viewing angles are.
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I really liked the gtab except for the screen. The viewing angles are horrible. You pretty much have to have the device right in front of your face in order to use it. Its to bad really because its a really cool device and the specs on the hardware are awesome. I wish it was $50-$100 more and came with a better screen. I ended up returning it to office depot yesterday and I am really disapointed. Its a really cool device but I am just one of those people that couldn't get over how bad the viewing angles are.
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When you first get the G-Tab the viewing angle can be a little disconcerting but once you get through that initial time period of using it you get used to it, through repetition your mind automatically figures out how to view it at the right angle and you don't even notice or think about it anymore. I think if you had stuck it out you might have had the same experience.
I had the device for 10 days before I returned it. I'm just one of those users that couldn't get over the Extremely limited viewing angle of the device. Its to bad because again, I really liked it and would have been more than willing to spend $50-$100 more for the device if it only had a better screen. IMO If I had a choice between the gtab and the nook I would go with the nook purely due to the screen of the nook being so much better.
I have a G-tab and 2 NCs - all rooted. I use the G-tab and my wife and daughter own the Nooks. Vegan on the G-tab is great, and I hardly ever walk upstairs to my PC anymore. The same with my wife and daughter on their Nooks. The NC screen is awesome, but I prefer the larger size of the G-tab plus all the other bells and whistles. My son has Android envy with his Ipod Touch! May have to get him a refurb G-tab for $270 down the road...
So my situation, I was fortunate to earn a free ipad wifi/3g 16gb from a sales contest at work, well Ive played with the thing for a few weeks and I have to say apple blows. Anyways gunna sell it on ebay, looking like I can get about $450 for it.
I then want to take the money and buy an android tablet, i really want a honeycomb one, but I know they are very expensive as they are just coming out.
So I thought to myself why couldn't I just buy a tablet that comes with Froyo, and then root it, and flash a custom honeycomb rom once a developer ports it over to my device..? It would save me alot of cash/waiting.
So I'm assuming all the G tab owners did some shopping around before buying this tablet. What are the top 3 android tablets under $450 in your opinion?
Obviously another concern is which tablet under $450 will be likely to have the most developer support, being the flashaholic that I am, I really want something that has many roms and kernels etc.. availiable. I did see quite a few roms in the G tab development section, but I am finding it very difficult to find out information about other tablets as far as rom development. What do you guys thing from a developer support stand point?
Thanks!!!!
Under $450 and that are out now tablets....
If you're just looking for a tablet to browse the internet, casual gaming, youtube..you know basic stuff...you can save about $100 by buying a nook. Lots of dev support...I mean lots.
If you want something more powerful with a bigger screen but weaker viewing angles than the gtab is tops in my opinion. If you don't mind a used gtab...than I would grab one if you can find it.
As for a third choice, I guess I would get the archos 70 or 101.
Awesome thanks.
I personally wouldn't get a nook. I had one and ended up trading it for an archos 101. From what it looks like there is more development for the GTab. The nook is a nice device but I really didn't think the device was speedy enough for me. If I'm getting a tablet then it should have better specs then my phone (Nexus S). Screen on the Nook was nice but I've always wanted a bigger tab. I like my archos 101 but then again the processor was good but I felt it could be better. I just sold my archos a few days ago on here and ordered a GTab and it'll be here tomorrow. Nook is $250 new and GTab cost me $368, with the GTab you may be getting a worse screen but you get more internal storage, better processor, bluetooth, IMO better dev support, and a USB port which I personally want. I've also had a Galaxy Tab but when I had it development was slow so I got rid of it also again it has the same specs as my phone. IMO theres no point in a tablet that has equal or worse specs then your phone (unless you have a dual core phone) and after experience 7inch screens are good for reading and comics but 10.1inch screens are better for web browsing and even better for reading and comics
Had my gtab for about 2 weeks now that I bout from another user here on xda for $320. Prior to the purchase I had been following the forums and watching youtub videos of the device and drooling. Now that I have it, I feel I may have hyped it a bit too much. It is a good device but there are a few things about it that bother me but to be fair I was expecting some of them. the screen is as bad as they say. This device is pretty hefty. Holding it in can be tiresome at times. The bezel is thin on three sides, one of which also has capacitive buttons which makes it hard to find a comfortable way to hold it at times unless you are using both hands. No gps. As for the roms, as good as they are they are far from perfect. They each have their own issues which were easy to ignore at first but after a while i find to be annoying when you want something that just works. I appreciate the devs though and I'm sure in time they will figure everything out. After trying a xoom at frys the other day I can honestly say they know what a tablet should be like. I just wish it wasn't an extra 500 bucks.
BuI shopped arround for a good while. I have been using resistive screen tablet PC's in my work for years, and hated them. Ugly screens tedious repeated touches to get anywhere. Call me crazy but I really believe that anyone who complains about the screen on the gtab needs to take a reality check. This thing has better viewing angles than my android phone. What do you want to do with it? Rest it on your coffee table and sit 10 feet away at a 45° angle and expect perfect color? Yes there are nicer screens out there but IMHO this is way better than the crap I have seen for years. I'm sure it would have had a super top of the line screen too if Malta could have gotten screens from LG at nearly cost like apple does.
The price is perfect and the screen is perfect for the price. Enjoy the fact that no one will see what's on your screen unless you want them to. Its a security feature in my book.
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BuI shopped arround for a good while. I have been using resistive screen tablet PC's in my work for years, and hated them. Ugly screens tedious repeated touches to get anywhere. Call me crazy but I really believe that anyone who complains about the screen on the gtab needs to take a reality check. This thing has better viewing angles than my android phone. What do you want to do with it? Rest it on your coffee table and sit 10 feet away at a 45° angle and expect perfect color? Yes there are nicer screens out there but IMHO this is way better than the crap I have seen for years. I'm sure it would have had a super top of the line screen too if Malta could have gotten screens from LG at nearly cost like apple does.
The price is perfect and the screen is perfect for the price. Enjoy the fact that no one will see what's on your screen unless you want them to. Its a security feature in my book.
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^^^^Yeah This. I waited a week for mine to come from the good ol' US of A (Im in oztralia )
After reading all the reports.. bad screens, slow stock UI etc I thought ok, well the screen is probably as bad as they say and the UI cant be that bad...
well it was exactly opposite - the screen is actually not that bad compared to some screens i deal with daily. UI was even worse than I could have imagined.
I know have vegan on it and it rocks. For the price I am absolutely blown away.
You can not go wrong with the g-Tab. Especially since you stated that you are a "Flashaholic." I have had mine for almost 2 months now and absolutely love it. I have tried both the vegan and TNT-Lite roms, and ended up staying with the TNT-Lite. While there are many things that could have been implemented better, in my mind it is a better value right now than the competition. I love the fact that it has removable storage. I have a little case that I keep my micro-SD cards in and swap them out whenever I want to watch something else or need more storage. Since purchasing this product, I have taken it with me on several business trips, and have found it indispensable. I can even back my photos up onto it using an SD card reader.
Bottom Line: If you do not mind playing around and fiddling with settings and enjoy trying new things, then I suggest getting the g-Tab. Over wise I suggest waiting a little longer until the "Tablet Form Factor" becomes more settled.
Just a note on the Notion Ink Adam which falls into the sub $450 category (wifi LCD version, anyways). I received hoping to get better viewing angles but they seemed to be the same as the Gtab, plus I really like the Gtab's form factor a lot more. The Adam was heavier, thicker and more squared off making it not as comfortable to hold as the Gtab. I ebayed the Adam and actually turned a little profit from it
Great info guys! Thanks to everyone who replied, all very helpful!
I got several buyers for my ipad so it should be gone today
I think the g tab sounds like it will do what I want, it really will just be for playing games, web browsing, and taking on airplanes etc, so it sounds like the way to go. And hopefully honeycomb roms will be available before too long!
Follow up question, where can you get a good case for the g tab? I liked the one that I bought my ipad, it was kind of like a little padfolio and it could fold into a "stand" which was great for watching movies on the plane.
Other than that just gotta research rooting this thing, I plan to pick one up before the end of the weekend. And you guys have already given me some ideas which roms to try. Thanks!
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Follow up question, where can you get a good case for the g tab? I liked the one that I bought my ipad, it was kind of like a little padfolio and it could fold into a "stand" which was great for watching movies on the plane.
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Check the G Tablet Accessories forum, there are a couple of options depending whether you want a keyboard or not and at least one more on the way
Alright just a couple more for the helpful people here
1. is this the best way to root the g tab? http://droidpirate.com/2010/11/27/how-to-root-your-viewsonic-g-tablet/
2. After I root I will be following the instructions in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
So I was wondering if I had to update anything in order to flash custom roms, or can I just root my tab, and then follow the instructions on that thread and be good to go on custom roms?
Also what ROM would you guys recomend? I am typically an AOSP guy assuming that everything is functional, but my wife will be using this tablet too and she is not very tech savvy, so I would like a rom that is pretty stable, any suggestions would be apprecited thanks!
Also I see clockwork v08 seems to be the hot ticket, so I assume that I will use that? I have always used Amon RA on my EVO, but it doesnt appear that Amon RA is availiable for the G tab, is that a correct assumption?
Thanks again for all the help, I know those last few questions arent necessarily pertinent to my original post, but I appreciate the help.
All the instructions you need to root the device are in the second thread you linked -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
Just pick out a ROM - TNTLite and VEGAn are the two most popular around here - and follow the instructions carefully.
perfect thanks, guess I should've read this line from that thread
"You do NOT need to root your tablet to install a ROM on this device using this guide. All the after-market ROMs are pre-rooted."
LMAO!! haha cool.
Just a little update, I got my GTab today and love it sooooooooo much. Viewing angles aren't to bad. Monster Madness, Samurai II, and Backbreaker are awesome. Very fast device
Awesome I can't wait, should have mine before Monday
Wi-Fi only Motorola Xoom at Sam's Club
I think the gTab is the best bang for your buck at between $350 and $400 especially with the ROMs our gTabDevs are churning out for us. However, if you really want an official Honeycomb tablet I've read that Sam's Club will be selling these at their stores for around $500 each in the next few weeks.
Just thought some folks might want to know.
I am sticking with my Nook Color
After having received the Archos 101. I was disappointed in the screen quality and the touch screen and lack of dev support. I sold it and got the g tablet and was in love with it until I bought my mom a kindle and started to like the form factor and size. I then started becoming bored with my g tablet. I then began looking at the nook color forums and decided to buy one, since I have bought it, I haven't touched my g tablet. I really like the size and the feel of it, I read more now and still play the games I like. I am happy running CM7 gingerbread and looking forward to honeycomb when it comes out as AOSP.
The dirty little secret is that there is no day to day life changing use for a tablet. So this can put you in two categories.
#1. You want to try and use the tablet during travel and such. In this case form factor is going to be important. The Nook Color is probably a better option as you sacrifice overall performance for the usability of the design.
#2. You want a device to develop on and try to utilize the latest and greatest. The Tegra 2 is the "it" platform right now for the android tablets. The GTab and its brothers give you the best entry into this field.
I am solidly in #2. Sure I have played some games on my tablet, I have browsed the web and I have used it on the go. But there has never been a situation where my VZ Droid would not have let me do the exact same thing.
I am comfortable with the fact that I bought a development platform. Having it in hand shows me the potential of the concept.
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The dirty little secret is that there is no day to day life changing use for a tablet. So this can put you in two categories.
#1. You want to try and use the tablet during travel and such. In this case form factor is going to be important. The Nook Color is probably a better option as you sacrifice overall performance for the usability of the design.
#2. You want a device to develop on and try to utilize the latest and greatest. The Tegra 2 is the "it" platform right now for the android tablets. The GTab and its brothers give you the best entry into this field.
I am solidly in #2. Sure I have played some games on my tablet, I have browsed the web and I have used it on the go. But there has never been a situation where my VZ Droid would not have let me do the exact same thing.
I am comfortable with the fact that I bought a development platform. Having it in hand shows me the potential of the concept.
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Excellent post, and i'm in catoegory #2 as well, I'm playing with house money becuase I got the ipad for free. But my wife really wants something to play games with and I like to watch movies etc on the airplane as well as browse the etc at home.
I've been doing some research for buying an android tablet for about a month now. Things that have become a must for me:
512mb (or better) of ram
Tegra 2 cpu
Around 10" high res (enough for honeycomb) screen
Under $500
Rootable, and has good dev support
Most you will be thinking, "you're describing the viewsonic g-tab, right?" Well, that's mainly what I'm thinking about. I'm wondering if there are any other great tablets that I'm missing. Any advice, comments or whatever would be appreciated. Thanks!
Id stay away from the g-tablet. The specs seem great for the price, but the screen is a HUGE disappointment. The viewing angles are terrible, it washes out when moved the slightest bit. In fact, straight on doesn't even seem to be the best angle.
I didn't even bother rooting mine, which anyone would want to do since the tap n tap UI on it is terrible. The screen was an immediate dealbreaker. My flytouch 2 screen is leaps and bounds better, and that's kinda sad since it was less than half the price of a g-tablet.
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I've been doing some research for buying an android tablet for about a month now. Things that have become a must for me:
512mb (or better) of ram
Tegra 2 cpu
Around 10" high res (enough for honeycomb) screen
Under $500
Rootable, and has good dev support
Most you will be thinking, "you're describing the viewsonic g-tab, right?" Well, that's mainly what I'm thinking about. I'm wondering if there are any other great tablets that I'm missing. Any advice, comments or whatever would be appreciated. Thanks!
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I think you're looking for something that doesn't exist yet. The best bet will probably be the Tablet Toshiba is dropping soon, assuming its around that price. Otherwise you might as well keep waiting with me.
Ah, ok. I had been hearing that. I didn't think it played that much into it. I wish I could buy one just to test it out
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Id stay away from the g-tablet. The specs seem great for the price, but the screen is a HUGE disappointment. The viewing angles are terrible, it washes out when moved the slightest bit. In fact, straight on doesn't even seem to be the best angle.
I didn't even bother rooting mine, which anyone would want to do since the tap n tap UI on it is terrible. The screen was an immediate dealbreaker. My flytouch 2 screen is leaps and bounds better, and that's kinda sad since it was less than half the price of a g-tablet.
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The view angle of the G Tablet certainly could be better, but this guy is exaggerating too much. The screen looks terrific when seen at the best angle. And I can highly recommend the G Tablet for you. It isn't perfect but no Tablet out there for any price is perfect.
Thanks guys for your input. I've decided I'm just gonna have to go with the risk and buy one. If the viewing angles really are that bad, I'll simply re-sell it on ebay
Viewsonic Gtab
Viewing angle is NOT that bad, accessories are the problem. Can't find them in the US! But once you get a good rom on it, I have had no regrets dropping a few hundred on the toy.
Notice I say toy, cause there is no 'need' for this equipment yet. No honeycomb, no easy out of the box use, but I enjoy the speedy vegan tab rom and have used it for movies, email, and just tom-foolery android apks. Get an atom laptop if you want something out of the box that is based on functionality if you need to buy before Q4 2011.
I have a g-tab, like it more than the ipad I had.
You should check out the Barnes and Noble Nook Color! I got one just for the ereader and have since rooted it and then even installed CM7. The only thing it doesn't have is a camera and Bluetooth mic support(yet).
BN really under sold its capabilities. It is the little tablet tablet could...
P.S. the dev community is amazing around it...
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You should check out the Barnes and Noble Nook Color! I got one just for the ereader and have since rooted it and then even installed CM7. The only thing it doesn't have is a camera and Bluetooth mic support(yet).
BN really under sold its capabilities. It is the little tablet tablet could...
P.S. the dev community is amazing around it...
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As much as I agree with how awesome the value of the Nook color is... It doesn't meet any of his requirements.
I believe the Acer Iconia Tab and Asus EEE transformer meets all of your needs and price range.
I have Toshiba Folio 100 and I'm not happy with it, little dev support, bad screen, lots of bugs that Toshiba don't fix and if you buy one, you'll surly get one with bad part(s), because Toshiba made bad parts and every tablet has another parts. New Toshiba tablet seems OK, but I won't buy any from Toshiba. I have same problem and I'll wait. In near future(2012), tablets will better and they'll have dual boot(android,ubuntu;androd, windows 8), faster processors(nvidia quad core processor), new OS's(windows 8, ubuntu, android ice cream sandwich tbat will be universal, chrome os) and the best of all, they'll cheaper!
After this, I think you will wait
I have the Acer Iconia A500 Tab which was bought in Germany.
Has a few small issues as you would expect from a fresh honeycomb device but nothing that you couldnt live with until Acer put out the update for Honeycomb 3.1 before the end of June.
If you can get past the little niggles, it has an excellent screen with amazing viewing angles, bright, crisp and clear. Fantastic build quality, including a thin brushed aluminium skin and a reasonable weight that wont flare up your RSI.
After the usual tweaks and additional root apps for improved battery life, you can quite happily use the device constantly for between 10-12 hours (mixed media)
has 1gb of ram, 32gb space, wireless -n, USB, Mini USB, Mini HDMI, encryption etc etc etc.
Baring in mind that it is almost 'stock' honeycomb 3.0 (Still includes the mobile phone elements even though this is wifi only, there is a reason bhind the choice ), i believe the slab has a lot of potential and cant wait till people start improving it.
Im very happy with the device so far and fully expecting the issues to be resolved in the first customised version of the 3.1 update from Acer.
All for 499 Euro
There's your deal...
moofi. woot. com/moofi/deliciouswaffles
get rid of the spaces in the link .
I bought one on Friday. Still hasn't shipped :-(
Me and Woot have a love/hate relationship.
I don't get it. There is no design flaw. Why are they trying to dump this product? If they are really trying to dump this product for a newer model, the newer model better be able to sing and dance.
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I don't get it. There is no design flaw. Why are they trying to dump this product? If they are really trying to dump this product for a newer model, the newer model better be able to sing and dance.
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They are not dumping it, its just being priced competitively given the availability $400 IPS tegra 2, HC Asus Transformer.
Any way amazon's deal (via woot) was way better given it was $280 to your door step (no taxes or shipping fees).
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They are not dumping it, its just being priced competitively given the availability $400 IPS tegra 2, HC Asus Transformer.
Any way amazon's deal (via woot) was way better given it was $280 to your door step (no taxes or shipping fees).
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Priced better? You're saying they are preemptively striking all the other tegra 2's that are coming out this/next month?
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I don't get it. There is no design flaw
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Well, I can think of one giant design flaw that marred an otherwise great tablet (hey, let's take the most important part of the tablet and make it really, really, really crappy!). I would not be surprised to see this sucker at $200 new within the next couple of months with the onslaught of HC tablets hitting the market at sub-$500 prices.
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Well, I can think of one giant design flaw that marred an otherwise great tablet (hey, let's take the most important part of the tablet and make it really, really, really crappy!). I would not be surprised to see this sucker at $200 new within the next couple of months with the onslaught of HC tablets hitting the market at sub-$500 prices.
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You're talking about the screen? I've had my gtab for a couple months now. Been taking it everywhere with me. In fact, myself and a couple others from the lab attended a meeting to share our designs and experiments at a meeting. I whipped out the gtab and began sharing our autocad drawings and calculations. People were impressed. A few asked intently about my tablet.
The point is I've had no problem at all with the screen. I don't understand why people are crying bloody murder about this aspect of it. May be because you guys are spoiled?
To me, this is not a design flaw. It's not even a weakness. It just is. It makes the gtab different.
I have the Asus now, and I guess you just don't know what you're missing until you've seen a superior screen in the flesh. My jaw literally dropped when I turned it on. Straight-on, the gTab has a great screen, but the viewing angles are terrible, and I consider that a design flaw, as in they went really cheap with the screen. The Acer A500 does not have an IPS screen, yet its viewing angles are almost comparable to the Transformer, so it is possible. Whoever manufactured the gTab just cut corners on the most crucial part of a tablet.
If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
Kinda wish I'd kept mine another week so I could post the difference so you could see for yourself, but I don't suppose it matters
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You're talking about the screen? I've had my gtab for a couple months now. Been taking it everywhere with me. In fact, myself and a couple others from the lab attended a meeting to share our designs and experiments at a meeting. I whipped out the gtab and began sharing our autocad drawings and calculations. People were impressed. A few asked intently about my tablet.
The point is I've had no problem at all with the screen. I don't understand why people are crying bloody murder about this aspect of it. May be because you guys are spoiled?
To me, this is not a design flaw. It's not even a weakness. It just is. It makes the gtab different.
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I am looking at buying this tablet, what is everyone saying about the screen?
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I have the Asus now, and I guess you just don't know what you're missing until you've seen a superior screen in the flesh. My jaw literally dropped when I turned it on. Straight-on, the gTab has a great screen, but the viewing angles are terrible, and I consider that a design flaw, as in they went really cheap with the screen. The Acer A500 does not have an IPS screen, yet its viewing angles are almost comparable to the Transformer, so it is possible. Whoever manufactured the gTab just cut corners on the most crucial part of a tablet.
If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
Kinda wish I'd kept mine another week so I could post the difference so you could see for yourself, but I don't suppose it matters
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I have an iPad2, the gTablet, an Acer netbook, a Dell laptop, and a 2010 MacBookPro.
The gTablet uses the exact same LCD as the acer Netbook. You can tell the screen is designed for a slightly off center nearly dead on viewing angle, and if you hold it so, it's quite fine.
You won't be able to see much at more than 10-15 degrees off center left/right (in landscape) or up/down (portrait)
It is what it is. It's not an iPad. It's not the $120 more Asus. It's the cheapest Tegra2 with great modding support here at xda you can buy. I wouldn't spend more than $280 on it, but for $280 its great.
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Priced better? You're saying they are preemptively striking all the other tegra 2's that are coming out this/next month?
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There is nothing preemptive about it, the Asus transformer is already out there (NA release) and for even longer in EU, and the $399 NA price was already officially announced more than a month ago.
schettj said:
I wouldn't spend more than $280 on it,
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Thats the whole point, and I guess retailers do clearly see that.
PeteSeiler2010 said:
I am looking at buying this tablet, what is everyone saying about the screen?
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If you look at it straight-on, it is a great screen. If you look at it few degrees left or right, it loses quality but is still viewable. A few more degrees, and things become mushy. Tilt it slightly vertically and that's where the frustration really begins -- imagine those psychedelic videos where colors transform and turn negative. Like the post above said, it's a pure netbook screen and is meant to be viewed as you would with a netbook. Sticking it in a tablet was a cost-cutting shortcut.
Now, if you buy a case that props it up, it helps quite a bit. I'm not dogging the gTab really, it's a great tab that just needs to come down in price a little more in light of the the Transformer's release. If you're going to spend $280+ on a tablet, I'd advise you to spring for the extra $120 that will get you a Transformer.
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If you're happy with yours, that's great, but that screen ran me off, and I can't recommend it to anyone when they can (eventually) have a Transformer for about $100 more.
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Don't get me wrong. Whenever someone asks me about my gtab, I tell them it's not for them and recommend an ipad or ipad 2. I do that with pretty much everything nowadays. When people ask me I recommend them the most mainstream thing possible.
Well I don't feel so bad for directing a coworker to get an iPad 2 today She saw my Transformer and said she was looking at iPads, but she liked the widgets of Android (she has an Evo). I told her to just get an iPad, you pick it up and it's a vessel for apps, nothing more, and knowing her, I thought that was best.
But after playing with the Transformer, she's torn. So I guess that's a plus for HC, it's not as techie as I thought.
Bought one from Woot on 4/25, got it on 4/29
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Well I don't feel so bad for directing a coworker to get an iPad 2 today She saw my Transformer and said she was looking at iPads, but she liked the widgets of Android (she has an Evo). I told her to just get an iPad, you pick it up and it's a vessel for apps, nothing more, and knowing her, I thought that was best.
But after playing with the Transformer, she's torn. So I guess that's a plus for HC, it's not as techie as I thought.
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I direct people to the ipad 2 unapologetically. I'm sick of people complaining about nothing. Let apple deal with those spoiled brats.
Well I found someone who bought it and I guess they were scared to try to do any custom ROM stuff and they sold it to me for $190. I think i got a deal, I am currently reading up on it before I try anything though. I have been using Android for well over a year now, I have a captivate and I always flash the newest ROM's that come out for it. I am hoping the G Tablet is about as easy as my captivate to mod. Anyone have a favorite ROM for the G Tab, I am looking at playing Pocket Legends and games like that.
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I am hoping the G Tablet is about as easy as my captivate to mod.
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You don't need to hope. Everything about the gtab is unlocked. It is currently the most hackable device out there.
Anyone have a favorite ROM for the G Tab, I am looking at playing Pocket Legends and games like that.
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I've used them all. The one that seems to run the smoothest and fastest is the calkulin+clemsyn combo. I use the overclocked version 5 one.
That said, you really should try them all out one at a time. Again, it takes so little effort to flash a rom. Actually, it takes about 2 minutes for each rom to flash. Try each rom for a week and see how you like them.
Some people like vegan ginger because it's the latest and greatest. I personally like the fastest and most stable. Your choice.
Thank you very much for the information, i can't wait to dive in!
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You don't need to hope. Everything about the gtab is unlocked. It is currently the most hackable device out there.
I've used them all. The one that seems to run the smoothest and fastest is the calkulin+clemsyn combo. I use the overclocked version 5 one.
That said, you really should try them all out one at a time. Again, it takes so little effort to flash a rom. Actually, it takes about 2 minutes for each rom to flash. Try each rom for a week and see how you like them.
Some people like vegan ginger because it's the latest and greatest. I personally like the fastest and most stable. Your choice.
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I currently have tNt 4.4 and I like it a lot. If/when I flash another rom, would I have to load all my Apps again? I have titanium backup but even then it would take a while to load them all. That might discourage me from trying ALL the roms out
I have read really good things about the Eee Pad Transformer. Anybody had a chance to compare it to the Viewsonic G Tab? I have the G Tab and was considering buying a different Android tablet eventually with better viewing angles. I am really pleased with the hardware and performance of the G Tab but the viewing angles have a long way to go. I would love to hear opinions from anyone who has had a chance to check out both.
I bought the gtablet when it ws on woot. Spent $45 in accessories too. Then i saw the Transformer and it's pricing. Returned the gtablet asap to woot.
I wanted Honeycomb nd youre not going to get a good rom of it anytime soon. The viewing angle of the gtablet started to get annoying too. I had it for 2 weeks. Even just looking at it dead on and not moving your head, you get a sort of hologram type view in your eyes. I couldn't stand it.
I dont remember the exact weight of the gtablet, but loving the Transformer. It seems lighter. The sides are tapered also, so holding it is easier.
Got the Transformer today and couldn't be more happier!
EDIT: Just remember from reading other people's gTablet experiences. I too suffered bad touch screen responsiveness at the edges of the screen, drove me crazy.
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its day and night comparison. TF screen even blows away the xoom, and is as good as my ipad.
I got a GTablet when it first came out last November and I still own it (it helps with Android development) but the Transformer is WAY better. Looks better, feels better in the hand, lighter, better weight distribution and OMG the screen is *so much nicer*. Viewing angles on the GTablet are especially bad and on the Transformer especially good. Haven't had a single issue with responsiveness on the Transformer screen while I sometimes have roving 'dead areas' of the screen with the GTablet that cause me to constantly recalibrate it.
Also being able to run Honeycomb is nice (still wish Google would AOSP Honeycomb so I could run it on the Gtablet too). Lots of little things like the better multipane gmail app really add up to a much better experience.
I had a G Tablet for a little while and I just received my Transformer on Friday. The screen is waaaay better! I have an iPad 2 ( I'm a developer and I get to try a lot of products) and the Transformer's screen is just as good. I don't think there is a better screen on a tablet right now. Transformer is excellent value for the money you pay- overall quality is much higher than the G Tablet in my opinion.
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I am really pleased with the hardware and performance of the G Tab but the viewing angles have a long way to go.
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That's an understatement. When I bought my gTab, I thought the screen was "good enough" because I paid $300 for it. Then the Transformer came along for a mere $100 more, and I sold my gTab and spent a tablet-less week waiting for the 26th. Totally worth it, this screen is what a tablet screen should be -- perfect from any angle.
I liked the gTab and the devs for it are great, but that cheapo netbook screen ruined a promising piece of hardware.
My G tablet will still kick all of your Asus. You can just read the results better on your screens. Heh. I will be buying the Transformer and giving my g tablet to my son. I have been watching this forum to see what is happening with the Transformer for several weeks. I am really impressed with the support for the g tablet and im sure the Transformer will get there eventually. Overclocking and custom roms have put the g tablet in the top spot at Antutu. I am currently in 8th place and my Smartbench scores are way higher than the Xoom. I don't see the transformer having any real presence yet because there have been no real tweaks to the tablet yet and so it is probably on par with the xoom performance wise? I look forward to getting my Transformer and seeing where things go with the software in the future. Enjoy!
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Thanks everybody. I really appreciate it. That's what I was afraid of. Well, looks like I'm selling the G-Tab. I don't use it often but I could see more use with the better screen of the Asus and I really wanted it for the main purpose as an E-reader and light internet surfing. I think I'd be a lot better off with the Asus especially with the keyboard dock which I should have just waited but I guess hindsight is always 20/20 and something better will always come along.
I've been using the Transformer to read books before bed, and it definitely serves that purpose better than the gTab did because of the screen. I basically hold the Transformer upright on my stomach as I'm laying down and it looks great -- holding the gTab at that angle made things loopy.
I don't envy you trying to sell the gTab though -- the value has dropped like crazy the past couple of weeks, and you're bound to be disappointed at what you get. I was able to sell mine on Craigslist for $300 (with the M1 case), but I doubt that'd be the case today.
i just got 250 out of my g tablet. but i could have gotten 275 if i held out... I paid 299. americantv has them for 299 right now as well.
They are a really solid tablet, i liked it a lot...usb ports on board was amazingly nice. viewing angles were bad, but thats not a big deal to me.
i just wanted a more netbook convertible option, hence the transformer, which is on a truck for delivery right now. come on fedex man
To me there is no comparison between the two. Market works great without having to fiddle with my dpi setting. The screen on the Asus is great. I like using portrait mode for pdfs, books and on the Gtablet portrait mode sucked. Even if you looked straight on I had color shifting. Weight the transformer wins hands down. Build quality and thickness, again the transformer feels so much better. Oh and the fact that the Transformer doesn't have touch sensitive buttons on the bezel helps so much in holding it and not accidentally hitting home menu or back.
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I don't envy you trying to sell the gTab though -- the value has dropped like crazy the past couple of weeks, and you're bound to be disappointed at what you get. I was able to sell mine on Craigslist for $300 (with the M1 case), but I doubt that'd be the case today.
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Yeah, I thought that it would probably be difficult. I would take 250-275. I'm hoping for more but I have a feeling even 250-275 is a hope. I think I'm just gonna have to bite the bullet and take what I can get and I think the longer it goes the worse it will be. It's a shame to because I paid full price for it. Oh well, I guess that's how it goes.
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Thanks everybody. I really appreciate it. That's what I was afraid of. Well, looks like I'm selling the G-Tab. I don't use it often but I could see more use with the better screen of the Asus and I really wanted it for the main purpose as an E-reader and light internet surfing. I think I'd be a lot better off with the Asus especially with the keyboard dock which I should have just waited but I guess hindsight is always 20/20 and something better will always come along.
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Yep, you just summed it up. The screen on the TF is soooooo much nicer that your reading and surfing will be much more enjoyable.
I tried reading on my gTablet a few times - and my eyes just got all googly!
And having the keyboard dock available for when you wanna be productive will be great.
ONE THING I will point out - and subtract points from the TF for... The edges.
Compared to my gTablet, when I held my TF for the first time today, I felt like the tablet's edges were constructed with dull razor blades!!
OK, I'm sure I'll get used to it - and the BACK of it feels great... but those edges are not buttery smooth like our beloved gTablets!
(Don't let that hold ya back tho!)
Same as everyone else said.
-Touch Screen is much more responsive
- Screen is beautiful
- Device feels lighter and slimmer
- Device LOOKS high quality compared to GTAB
- I could go on and on.
I do miss the simple charging port, USB ports, CM7 etc of the GTAB
what's with all the people complaining about the TF101's bezel edge? You must all have soft feminine hands to get hurt so easily.
Well, that edge is a little sharp -- it was actually the first thing I noticed when I held it. I don't find it to be a problem at all, maybe because mine stays in the Asus case 99% of the time. But when I do take it out, it's noticeable, but not so much that I care.
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Yep, you just summed it up. The screen on the TF is soooooo much nicer that your reading and surfing will be much more enjoyable.
I tried reading on my gTablet a few times - and my eyes just got all googly!
And having the keyboard dock available for when you wanna be productive will be great.
ONE THING I will point out - and subtract points from the TF for... The edges.
Compared to my gTablet, when I held my TF for the first time today, I felt like the tablet's edges were constructed with dull razor blades!!
OK, I'm sure I'll get used to it - and the BACK of it feels great... but those edges are not buttery smooth like our beloved gTablets!
(Don't let that hold ya back tho!)
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I will gladly take razor blades on all sides if it does not make me crosseyed when trying to read on it.
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I have read really good things about the Eee Pad Transformer. Anybody had a chance to compare it to the Viewsonic G Tab? I have the G Tab and was considering buying a different Android tablet eventually with better viewing angles. I am really pleased with the hardware and performance of the G Tab but the viewing angles have a long way to go. I would love to hear opinions from anyone who has had a chance to check out both.
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I had a G-tablet which I returned when I heard the Transformer was coming out (I now have the Transformer). They're night-and-day different in quality, favoring the Transformer... its screen is gorgeous, great color/brightness/perfect viewing angles.
The Honeycomb Android OS is better-suited for a tablet and just as fast as any custom ROMs I had seen for the Gtablet. The Asus Transformer feels better-distributed in weight when holding it, and thinner. The build quality is far, far better, and the thing just flat-out works perfectly. The screen resolution makes web browsing a lot nicer as well.
The G-tablet's screen was just unbearably bad, you'd lose contrast/brightness significantly just from a 5-10 degree normal-holding-angle position in your hands, and the screen quality + resolution were far worse. This really translates into all aspects of using the tablet, but especially when reading the on the Transformer, it's a lot better. Portrait mode makes a huge difference to have as a viable reading option!
DEFINITELY go for the Transformer if it's an option... it's just a much, much, much, much (x"A LOT!") better tablet.
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I will gladly take razor blades on all sides if it does not make me crosseyed when trying to read on it.
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Heh, I've heard some people's are sharper than others, mine is very dull on the edges and comfy to hold *shrug*.
seshmaru said:
what's with all the people complaining about the TF101's bezel edge? You must all have soft feminine hands to get hurt so easily.
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^^^^^^^^^^
GoldenTiger said:
I had a G-tablet which I returned when I heard the Transformer was coming out (I now have the Transformer). They're night-and-day different in quality, favoring the Transformer... its screen is gorgeous, great color/brightness/perfect viewing angles.
The Honeycomb Android OS is better-suited for a tablet and just as fast as any custom ROMs I had seen for the Gtablet. The Asus Transformer feels better-distributed in weight when holding it, and thinner. The build quality is far, far better, and the thing just flat-out works perfectly. The screen resolution makes web browsing a lot nicer as well.
The G-tablet's screen was just unbearably bad, you'd lose contrast/brightness significantly just from a 5-10 degree normal-holding-angle position in your hands, and the screen quality + resolution were far worse.
DEFINITELY go for the Transformer if it's an option... it's just a much, much, much, much (x"A LOT!") better tablet.
Heh, I've heard some people's are sharper than others, mine is very dull on the edges and comfy to hold *shrug*.
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Love my G-tablet, but not the display. Anyway, I bought the G-tablet on sale to learn how to mod with new ROMs, etc, and have really had fun customizing it. If they could slap a good screen on the G-tablet it would really be a nice tablet. However, I will move on the the TF this summer. By the time I order one the brick and video issues should be solved and everyone should have stock by then. Played with the Acer today at BestBuy. Man, it was heavy! But I really like the Honeycomb OS and am anxious to move to that platform. I was pleased to see that the Acer screen was much better than the G-tablet. Also waiting on the Samsung 10.1 Gtab too. Its screen is supposed to be a step-up even from the Transformer. All you guys and gals get the bugs worked out for those of us who must wait a few more months. Thanks.