[Ask Your Questions Here] Questions & Answers for HTC EVO Shift 4G Users - EVO Shift 4G Android Development

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I have decided to open a Questions and Answers thread on this section of the forum. This is a good way to keep the number of new threads with questions down to a minimum, which will make new threads essentially for people that are contributing to the HTC EVO Shift 4G. This includes, but is not limited to, people that are providing the following:
- Roms & Kitchens
- Programs & Apps
- Fixes & Tweaks
- Skins & Themes
- Tips & Tricks
I would like to request the help from other members to keep the thread in order and in check. This will have the added side effect of creating an ever self updating knowledge base that will far extend the content of the Wiki. This will in turn save us from having to answer the same question a billion times...
Please refer to the Wiki first before asking any questions though! It can be located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Speedy
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I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a way to disable Sense on the Evo Shift.
I've seen it done on the original Evo, but I heard that HTC phones with Froyo cannot use the default android launcher anymore.
is this true?

rand0mthoughts said:
I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a way to disable Sense on the Evo Shift.
I've seen it done on the original Evo, but I heard that HTC phones with Froyo cannot use the default android launcher anymore.
is this true?
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AOSP roms (which will come when there is permanent root) do indeed liberate the phone from sense

It will not get rid of sense at all, but you can install ADW Launcher or Launcher Pro to have a different/more customizeable home screen expirenece.
When using those you will not be able to use sense widgets either though.

I just bought my EVO Shift 4g. How do I figure out if I have done any updates that might have cost me not to be able to root? Also, what happens if i do Root my EVO Shift 4g? Is it similar to to the iOS Jailbreak?

llmagel said:
I just bought my EVO Shift 4g. How do I figure out if I have done any updates that might have cost me not to be able to root? Also, what happens if i do Root my EVO Shift 4g? Is it similar to to the iOS Jailbreak?
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Here's some good info on rooting. It's a linux term, and in a way is similar to "jailbreaking," but they're not exactly the same. If you want to root when permanent root becomes available for the Evo Shift, I'd play it safe and not update at all.

Does anyone know who is working on getting us permanent root for our phones?
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koolkid09 said:
Does anyone know who is working on getting us permanent root for our phones?
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Unrevoked most likely

theimpaler747 said:
Unrevoked most likely
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There was a post on Unrevoked's twitter that said:
Maybe good news for people with HTC Wildfire. We're looking at it. (Also maybe good news for people with EVO Shift 4G sooner or later.)
Maybe good new? Not very definitive or explained, but they are working on it.

wardfan220 said:
There was a post on Unrevoked's twitter that said:
Maybe good news for people with HTC Wildfire. We're looking at it. (Also maybe good news for people with EVO Shift 4G sooner or later.)
Maybe good new? Not very definitive or explained, but they are working on it.
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Yup, and he's a good one, he'll get it soon I think

Is the hardware that much different from the original EVO or G2? Couldn't one of the developers over there come and and help us out?
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koolkid09 said:
Is the hardware that much different from the original EVO or G2? Couldn't one of the developers over there come and and help us out?
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Apparently, the software (which is what rooting deals with ) is.

theimpaler747 said:
Apparently, the software (which is what rooting deals with ) is.
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Ok gotcha. Back to patiently waiting.
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theimpaler747 said:
Apparently, the software (which is what rooting deals with ) is.
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impaler, I just looked at your battery mod, lol, I know "just". It looks pretty cool, I know you have plans to test it on the Shift, but what icons will there be available for stock rom use? I like the plain battery icon but with the numbers in it like in Cyanogen 6, is that in there?

wardfan220 said:
impaler, I just looked at your battery mod, lol, I know "just". It looks pretty cool, I know you have plans to test it on the Shift, but what icons will there be available for stock rom use? I like the plain battery icon but with the numbers in it like in Cyanogen 6, is that in there?
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Yes it is, and I do plan on supporting the shift and every phone when we get automation for the app going

theimpaler747 said:
Yes it is, and I do plan on supporting the sift and every phone when we get automation for the app going
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The sift? lol, j/k
Let me know if you need help testing it.

wardfan220 said:
The sift? lol, j/k
Let me know if you need help testing it.
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Lol, just fixed it, at least it didn't say something worse And yeah, will do on the testing

In spare parts there is an option to set the task manager to normal or aggressive. I never noticed this in my other phone. Is it along the same line as autokiller?
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vampir4997 said:
In spare parts there is an option to set the task manager to normal or aggressive. I never noticed this in my other phone. Is it along the same line as autokiller?
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It should be, although not as customizable as Autokiller

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It should be, although not as customizable as Autokiller
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It should be different. Autokiller is a min free manager, which is much different from task killers. At this point in the progress of android, a task killer will not do much, except drain the battery.

Related

Htc evo 4g rom

http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Supersonic/
Let get cooking.
Re: HTC EVO 4G Final Rom
What are they gonna do with this. Its not like the devs are cooking up nexus one ported roms
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Darch did have you seen darchdroid
bcnice20 said:
Darch did have you seen darchdroid
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DarchLegend would be more like it. Darchdroid is from AOSP, not really ported from a particular phone.
This belongs in the EVO section, not here.
markus_del_marko said:
This belongs in the EVO section, not here.
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its there !!!!!!!!!!!!
markus_del_marko said:
This belongs in the EVO section, not here.
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This fits in here just fine. We have roms cooked from several different phones here. There are certainly some nice things to be found in this rom that can (possibly) contribute to the Hero.
troyboytn said:
This fits in here just fine. We have roms cooked from several different phones here. There are certainly some nice things to be found in this rom that can (possibly) contribute to the Hero.
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Thank you. Knew it would come in handy.
Anybody have any clue what kind of special stuff is in there? Maybe the EVO Sense already works with JIT Roms????
I for one would love to see the new lockscreen ported to our 2.1 roms. That would be sick
I would love to have a lockscreen that isn't our stock Hero one. It's terrible. And I can't seem to get the Vanilla one working or any other one except the straight up clear one working on Fresh 2.1.
And the Hotspot app. I'd love Infrastructure wifi instead of Ad-Hoc
So other than a few different apps whats so different about the EVO rom? Been alot of talk that they may not even be able to root that baby, id feel bad for them.
markus_del_marko said:
So other than a few different apps whats so different about the EVO rom? Been alot of talk that they may not even be able to root that baby, id feel bad for them.
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I have not read that....source?
markus_del_marko said:
Been alot of talk that they may not even be able to root that baby
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naah, theyll always find a way to root it, jus like the iphone
Start COOKIN!!!!!!!
captivate said:
naah, theyll always find a way to root it, jus like the iphone
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In good time im sure but not right away. I read that new android motorla phones will not be able to be rootable at all, i think this will be a trend.
rockcrawler said:
I have not read that....source?
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http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=121163
Not really a source but very mixed opinions.
markus_del_marko said:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=121163
Not really a source but very mixed opinions.
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The fact that Sprint is requiring (seems to be confirmed now too) that you have the Wifi hot spot add-on in order to activate the wifi on the phone leads me to believe that once people have this phone in hand they will find that it's not rootable.
I am not real savvy on rooting android phones, but it seems to me that this might be the direction that providers are going in with these phones in order to maintain add-on sales for the devices.
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LOL, there are now 5000 of these things in the hands of devs. My money says it will be rooted before 6/4/10.
rockcrawler said:
LOL, there are now 5000 of these things in the hands of devs. My money says it will be rooted before 6/4/10.
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Hope for them that's true just like i hope our 2.1 RUU will be able to be rooted as well.

[Q] Possible FroYo w/Sense?

I know that the Wildfire has a different resolution than our phones, but, seeing as they are discussing porting it from the Legend, and that phone is similar to ours, can it be done?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793719
Possible but ALOT of porting. A whole different framework.
And next time post in the right section please. THERE is a Q&A section
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gidkid said:
I know that the Wildfire has a different resolution than our phones, but, seeing as they are discussing porting it from the Legend, and that phone is similar to ours, can it be done?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793719
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Would be a ton of work for a dev... too much work right now
Just curious but would porting the new desire be easier? It seems closer to the Hero and it has 2.2 with Sense
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PMDColeslaw said:
Just curious but would porting the new desire be easier? It seems closer to the Hero and it has 2.2 with Sense
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Desire is different framework I believe... I think it would actually be more difficult.
theimpaler747 said:
Desire is different framework I believe... I think it would actually be more difficult.
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Ahh, I wasnt sure. I just knew it was advertised a while back as "The Hero 2" or whatever and thought it was similar.
ok here is where we are at with a wildfire port. long way if I and beezy420 decide to keep moving forward with this. Special thanks to darchs kernel from cyan mod.
I will update later about all the none funtioning and will probably post the rom for other to just play with.
nfinitefx45 said:
ok here is where we are at with a wildfire port. long way if I and beezy420 decide to keep moving forward with this. Special thanks to darchs kernel from cyan mod.
I will update later about all the none funtioning and will probably post the rom for other to just play with.
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Damn you lol.
I just got it to boot cleanly about an hour ago.
nfinitefx45 if you guys manage to pull this off I'll personally drive to your house and take you out to dinner.
Actually, I was being facetious, but I was using it to illustrate how thankful I'd be.
I will also be a total guinea pig for this...I'm not a mod of dev in any sense of the word but I'd love to help out finding bugs.
tubazeppelin said:
nfinitefx45 if you guys manage to pull this off I'll personally drive to your house and take you out to dinner.
Actually, I was being facetious, but I was using it to illustrate how thankful I'd be.
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I am a professional chef.. ill MAKE him dinner lol
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Decad3nce said:
Damn you lol.
I just got it to boot cleanly about an hour ago.
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Well brother keep on going I will try to catch up with you after work and see where your at with it maybe compare notes, I was just playing with it last night to see where we would stand with something like this. Still think the legend will be the one to port though. as the graphic work required for this alone would be a monster job.
Glad to see someone else interested in bring froyo to the hero.
chefthomas99 said:
I am a professional chef.. ill MAKE him dinner lol
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Alright, how about we just go to your restaurant and we all have a grand ol' time talking (loudly, of course) about how great our Sprint Heros are? Everyone in the restaurant with an iPhone is gonna be so jealous...
tubazeppelin said:
Alright, how about we just go to your restaurant and we all have a grand ol' time talking (loudly, of course) about how great our Sprint Heros are? Everyone in the restaurant with an iPhone is gonna be so jealous...
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No Iphones allowed in my restaurant
chefthomas99 said:
No Iphones allowed in my restaurant
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Sounds like my kind of place.
chefthomas99 said:
No Iphones allowed in my restaurant
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"It has come to our attention that Iphone owners are leaving scanty tips because they can't get out of the Apple/AT&T money vacuum. We have have decided to no longer serve Iphone owners at our discretion. If you own an Iphone, please kindly vacate the premise to avoid DNA being accidentally put into your food. Thank you for your cooperation concerning this matter."
Classic lol!!!!!!
Shouldn't adjusting the pixel density make the items show up correctly on screen?
It would effectively cut the resolution on our Heroes, though.
And of course, the Legend would be the easiest port, but the since it's not out yet, we have the option of making do with the Wildfire or standing pat. (Not that I'd accuse any devs of that, seeing as this port looks hard as hell).
gidkid said:
Shouldn't adjusting the pixel density make the items show up correctly on screen?
It would effectively cut the resolution on our Heroes, though.
And of course, the Legend would be the easiest port, but the since it's not out yet, we have the option of making do with the Wildfire or standing pat. (Not that I'd accuse any devs of that, seeing as this port looks hard as hell).
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well I tried different resolutions but havent found one that looks much better. The legend should be soon as it was due for release at the same time as the legend.
nfinitefx45 said:
ok here is where we are at with a wildfire port. long way if I and beezy420 decide to keep moving forward with this. Special thanks to darchs kernel from cyan mod.
I will update later about all the none funtioning and will probably post the rom for other to just play with.
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Wow, this is actually really awesome man! Keep it up, would love a sense 2.2 rom!!!!
HOLY ****... if you guys pull this off ill even donate something.
fixxxer2008 said:
HOLY ****... if you guys pull this off ill even donate something.
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I know right!

[ROM] Sprint HTC Evo Shift v1.17.651.1 - STOCK, ROOTED

Here is a 100% stock rooted ROM v1.17.651.1
The ONLY change made was to root it.
No guarantees made or implied, use at your own risk.
Developers, themers, and anyone else feel free to do what you want with this!
There is no support here, so don't ask.
OP says it all. If you have a question, read the OP again.
Very nice to see you got a shift steelh look forward to working with you in the future
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bcnice20 said:
Very nice to see you got a shift steelh look forward to working with you in the future
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Not sure I'm going to keep it. I'm still partial to my EVO, this slide out keyboard wiggles too much and the screen is smaller. My hands are big so the original EVO was better.
Get the blue/black HTC case and your keyboard won't wiggle anymore. Really stiffens it up right well.
No suggestions for the smaller screen, but you do get used to it.
Keep your evo, give the shift to your wife! Then you can develop roms for both phones.
I see you closed your EVO rom thread. Does that mean you will be developing for the shift exclusively now? I can understand not wanting to stretch yourself too thin. FWIW, I have really enjoyed your rom and appreciate all of the hard work you put into it keeping it up to date.
My keyboard doesn't wiggle at all with no case. I don't know why it seems everyone else's is
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foxsdaddy67 said:
My keyboard doesn't wiggle at all with no case. I don't know why it seems everyone else's is
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+1
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Just a question, so this is 100% stock, so it has all the sprint apps loaded on the phone by default, but being rooted, you would be able to uninstall them? So you would end up with a completely stock phone, with apps you want uninstalled off the phone?
emkorial said:
Just a question, so this is 100% stock, so it has all the sprint apps loaded on the phone by default, but being rooted, you would be able to uninstall them? So you would end up with a completely stock phone, with apps you want uninstalled off the phone?
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Yeah. But you've gotta be rooted to flash it. So if you're already stock rooted you can just remove apps to your liking.
^ Shift Faced
Steel!! What's going on dude? Thanks for yet another base ROM. I think I might jump ship too but, for now, and thanks to you yet again, I now have a new base to port MattedBlues to
You're at it again! See ya around.
beatblaster said:
Steel!! What's going on dude? Thanks for yet another base ROM. I think I might jump ship too but, for now, and thanks to you yet again, I now have a new base to port MattedBlues to
You're at it again! See ya around.
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beatblaster,
probably wnt to use this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948566
There were a few bugs in this one.
riggsandroid said:
beatblaster,
probably wnt to use this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948566
There were a few bugs in this one.
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Thanks for pointing that out. I already grabbed the one you linked too for those "just in case" moments.
jesusice said:
Yeah. But you've gotta be rooted to flash it. So if you're already stock rooted you can just remove apps to your liking.
^ Shift Faced
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do you know offhand if i where to flash this, everything would be stock working with no problems? or still have to wait for a 100% AOSP rom working fully
Jo_795 said:
do you know offhand if i where to flash this, everything would be stock working with no problems? or still have to wait for a 100% AOSP rom working fully
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It should. This should be just as your phone was out the box except that it's rooted.
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AOSP for Desire S

i did start this thread in the general section when i had fewer than 10 posts, so sorry about the repost.
i have been wondering if any work has been done porting aosp to the desire s or if anyone could point me to the proper tutorials on how to do it, though i will have little time to work on it during the next 3 months or so.
cheers
Ep1cF4il said:
i did start this thread in the general section when i had fewer than 10 posts, so sorry about the repost.
i have been wondering if any work has been done porting aosp to the desire s or if anyone could point me to the proper tutorials on how to do it, though i will have little time to work on it during the next 3 months or so.
cheers
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cm7 for incredible s is on the way. i think, it will complete for desire s in 1 month too.
proxuser said:
cm7 for incredible s is on the way. i think, it will complete for desire s in 1 month too.
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it would indeed seem that way. just pulled the cm sources to see if adding a new device wasn't too hard a task and it seems there already has been some work done towards porting it to the saga (aka desire s). finally some good news
Hope the port for Saga comes soon. Really look forward to getting rid of Sense.
rubbish said:
Hope the port for Saga comes soon. Really look forward to getting rid of Sense.
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as do i...
rubbish said:
...Really look forward to getting rid of Sense...
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as do i...
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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for hardware?
i'm waiting for aosp too
Hmm... It is pretty great piece of hardware but Sense is great IMO (and no, I'm not an HTC employee )
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for hardware?
i'm waiting for aosp too
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NexuS has pretty same hardware. Even better cam..
I sold NexuS because I missed some of the sense things:
the stock dialer has NO t9 search - most dialer from market are crap or slow or somehow frickled on the stock dialer. Even old nokia do have a quick search option...
Stock contacts are ugly.
GAL (global adress list for exchange server) is NOT implemented in android 2.x - only in 3.0; but it's implemented since sense1 (hero)
CM had some issues - espacially with the notification bar/speed settings - on 2.3 - the new sense 3.0 lockscreen and notification bar are very good - so no need for CM at the moment - for _me_
So I deleted most of sense.apk from /system on my DesireS (all widgets, all "htc", like route66, amazon, stockexchange..) and do use adw-launcher instead of rosie (don't delete it cause is needed for lockscreen settings!) - but do have integrated company exchange and a good biult in dialer, cool contacts (with flickr and fb content) and nice lockscreen..
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NexuS has pretty same hardware. Even better cam..
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there was one thing i didn't like about the nexus s. had i been able to use my 32GB microsd card, i would've gone for the nexus s.
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Hmm... It is pretty great piece of hardware but Sense is great IMO (and no, I'm not an HTC employee )
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Sense is THE BEST ANDROID UI, EVAR. Don't know why people wanna "DE-SENSE" their phones. I'm gonna flash CM7 to see what the fuss is about , but sense 3.0 first Hopefully, the new official version of CM7 will come for DS too. I'd rather let the ports pass on...........
to each their own. i'm still waiting to see someone make a WebOS like UI for android ^^
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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In my case I obviously liked the phone much enough to neglect my dislike towards Sense
I don't complain about having Sense and can live with it but would prefer to run clean Android build when/if it becomes available.
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to each their own. i'm still waiting to see someone make a WebOS like UI for android ^^
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That would be EPIC !!!!!!!!!!!
shrome99 said:
That would be EPIC !!!!!!!!!!!
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i was sorta kidding, but yes it would be. so would an actual port of WebOS
Ep1cF4il said:
i was sorta kidding, but yes it would be. so would an actual port of WebOS
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I get the sarcasm, but well, imo WebOS is a really good os. It's too new and has veeeeerrry less apps. In abou 1-2 years maybe, it'll become as good as android is today.
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I get the sarcasm, but well, imo WebOS is a really good os. It's too new and has veeeeerrry less apps. In abou 1-2 years maybe, it'll become as good as android is today.
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had there been better WebOS devices on the market, i would probably have bought one of those instead. i've been told that app development is a lot easier than on any other platform. and as soon as i get some time, i might just look into writing apps for android.
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Then why in the world did you guys buy an HTC phone?
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There's plenty of HTC phones out there that are running custom ROMs and customised user interfaces that don't rely on Sense. It may be the "out of the box experience" as far as most HTC phones are concerned, but isn't that what all THIS (ie these forums) is about - customisations, and thinking "out of the box"? (no pun intended, haha).
If we all concentrated on Sense and variations on that theme then this community would be a much poorer one.
Peace
sense ftw!
Well, i love sense, but i am porting the cm7 just so people have the choose, and also to make the development on this device more alive
But personally, Sense is the thing!

Is Ice Cream Sandwich for HTC?

I know ICS hasn't been released yet, but HTC runs a different OS then the ones with Gingerbread so are they gonna release it for HTC Inspire to?
Hope so cause i would like to check it out.
SBasham said:
I know ICS hasn't been released yet, but HTC runs a different OS then the ones with Gingerbread so are they gonna release it for HTC Inspire to?
Hope so cause i would like to check it out.
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uhhhhhh.......
and where did you hear that HTC phones dont run Gingerbread???
because thats completely false....
SBasham said:
I know ICS hasn't been released yet, but HTC runs a different OS then the ones with Gingerbread so are they gonna release it for HTC Inspire to?
Hope so cause i would like to check it out.
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You see, this is the kinda stuff that should be in the q and a section. Complete noob kinda material.
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WoW
SBasham said:
I know ICS hasn't been released yet, but HTC runs a different OS then the ones with Gingerbread so are they gonna release it for HTC Inspire to?
Hope so cause i would like to check it out.
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Listen up pal, lemme help ya a bit.... (To be honest, re-reading your post, and again reading, I can't make heads or tails of what your asking. Will ICS be an available base for Inspire Devs to work with? Is that closer to what your suggesting, or asking?)
When the Inspire was released it was running Froyo, and when GB leaked the Devs with thier almighty wizardry developed a Rom(s) based on GB that could be flashed on rooted phones. Then HTC provided OTA updates for folks not rooted, which in turn gave most (all) Inspire users a Gingerbread based Sense Rom. Now that may not be all perfectly explained, but maybe it will help you to reassess how your question or statement is asked.....
Check this out. Opened a new Tab - Googled Ice Cream Shop Android and there it was.
Google wants ICS rolling out soon to compete with Apple - and it will be an available upgrade for existing smartphone users capable of running 2.3 (or 2.2 don't remember) They want all capable Android devices to be able to integrate with this new OS. SO my bet is this, once it drops those wacky wizards will be all over it - and a rooted user will see it before HTC pushes it out OTA
Edit: Your not grasping this the right way mate, so let me sum it up better. It's not a question (referring to thread title) of is ICS for HTC. ICS is an Android OS, which means its for Android powered devices. HTC, Samsung, Motorola, etc will use ICS for thier newest ANDROID powered devices, following that will probably be the dev versions, then official OTAs will follow - HOPEfully. Damn. That was tough........ ....... ...... .......
Sorry for the confusing question.
In other words, you're saying that all android phones (Running Sense or other OS) will be updated ICS?
SBasham said:
Sorry for confusing question.
I guess what i was trying to say was if i go out when ICS is release and buy a HTC Inspire will the OS be ICS or Sense?
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Sense isn't an OS. Its a UI. Sense is built on top of android OS 's like 2.2.1, 2.3.3. The HTC inspire will not be getting ICS. But as an EXAMPLE if it did, the OS would be ICS and sense would be built on top of it as a UI.
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trell959 said:
Sense isn't an OS. Its a UI. Sense is built on top of android OS 's like 2.2.1, 2.3.3. The HTC inspire will not be getting ICS. But as an EXAMPLE if it did, the OS would be ICS and sense would be built on top of it as a UI.
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Ok that was the answer i was looking for. Thank you.
Just curious do you happen to know WHY its officially not getting ICS?
SBasham said:
Sorry for confusing question.
I guess what i was trying to say was if i go out when ICS is release and buy a HTC Inspire will the OS be ICS or Sense?
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Lol, no apology necessary bud, but please don't be offended when I say you really should read a little something or other (Google "What is HTC Sense UI") to better inform yourself about your Phone. One last try bud - here we go. Ready?
Android powers your phone. Sense is a UI (user interface) which allows you to navigate through your phones OS or Operating System. Think of it like this bud - if Google is your car - Sense is the steering wheel. So if you go and buy another Inspire, The O.S. will be Gingerbread, How you will tell the OS what to do next, will be Sense. If that doesn't answer anything - then its someone else's turn...
dyliho said:
Lol, no apology necessary bud, but please don't be offended when I say you really should read a little something or other (Google "What is HTC Sense UI") to better inform yourself about your Phone. One last try bud - here we go. Ready?
Android powers your phone. Sense is a UI (user interface) which allows you to navigate through your phones OS or Operating System. Think of it like this bud - if Google is your car - Sense is the steering wheel. So if you go and buy another Inspire, The O.S. will be Gingerbread, How you will tell the OS what to do next, will be Sense. If that doesn't answer anything - then its someone else's turn...
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I got it with this post
trell959 said:
Sense isn't an OS. Its a UI. Sense is built on top of android OS 's like 2.2.1, 2.3.3. The HTC inspire will not be getting ICS. But as an EXAMPLE if it did, the OS would be ICS and sense would be built on top of it as a UI.
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gingerbread is the skeleton, sense is the skin.
SBasham said:
Ok that was the answer i was looking for. Thank you.
Just curious do you happen to know WHY its officially not getting ICS?
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In my opinion, HTC devs wont see a reason to rebuild sense over a new android build when they just released gingerbread. But more than likely there will be ICS roms
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Ok. I hope there is a stock ICS rom cause i want to check it out but not have stupid add ons.
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Ok. I hope there is a stock ICS rom cause i want to check it out but not have stupid add ons.
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Hmm. We will have to wait and see
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In my opinion, HTC devs wont see a reason to rebuild sense over a new android build when they just released gingerbread. But more than likely there will be ICS roms
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I was just asking your opinion on this and my battery died. They said ICS would support devices less than a year old. So we know the Devs will get thier hands on it, but it might be in HTCs interest to upgrade as Google is wanting a multi-device compatibility and interaction like iPhone, IPad, etc.... What I hope doesn't happen is HTC holding out an Update solely to encourage upgrading.
Edit: Sounds Promising, Looks and Sounds Stellar, we shall wait and see indeed. SBasham - I re-read my post and wanted to apologize for sounding snarky. Totally didn't mean to be a downer bud!
That's my cue its pillow time....
dyliho said:
I was just asking your opinion on this and my battery died. They said ICS would support devices less than a year old. So we know the Devs will get thier hands on it, but it might be in HTCs interest to upgrade as Google is wanting a multi-device compatibility and interaction like iPhone, IPad, etc.... What I hope doesn't happen is HTC holding out an Update solely to encourage upgrading.
Edit: Sounds Promising, Looks and Sounds Stellar, we shall wait and see indeed. SBasham - I re-read my post and wanted to apologize for sounding snarky. Totally didn't mean to be a downer bud!
That's my cue its pillow time....
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haha its fine you didn't sound snarky to me.
It looked like you and Trell were the same person cause the AT&T icon.
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haha its fine you didn't sound snarky to me.
It looked like you and Trell were the same person cause the AT&T icon.
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Trell is a lot more informed than I am. I would probably take his advice, or answer as wielding more authority.
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Trell is a lot more informed than I am. I would probably take his advice, or answer as wielding more authority.
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Thank you!
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So do you think the un-rooted inspire 4ag get ICS?
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So do you think un-rooted Inspire 4G will get the ICS update?
I guess I can count EVO out :'(
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The best we can hope for is a ported rom as I don't see ATT giving another update to this device. Now I hope I am wrong but past prices other wise

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