Hi all
Of course, I know that Htc Desire has got it's own Gps head but i've read several times that it will suck the battery damn quickly...
I was wondering, instead of this inernal GPS head, would it be more interesting, in term of battery life, to use a Bluetooth (BT ) connection to an external head...
I've tried it...No problem to have the external head ( Holux GPSslim236 ) beeing recognaized and paired...but it fails to connect...and I have no idea what it missing
In a previous life, when I was using my Windows Mobile PDA, in order to connect such a head, I had to provide a specific Com8 port, along with a SPP service to the BT...
so, two quickies..
1) Has that been already tested ?
2) Successfull i.e connected ?
Thks for having read all that
Haven't tried it yet, but I believe the WhereYouGo application has support for external Bluetooth devices. Might want to give it a try
There are a few app for this:
- Bluetooth GPS
- Bluetooth GPS Provider
- Bluetooth GPS Mouse
- Bluetooth GPS For Android
....
Some have been tested on this blog: AndroGeoid.
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:?: Do I need a seperate device (i.e. gps reciever?) to run Navigation software such as Tom Tom Navigator or Route 66 on my XDAII? If I need a gps transmitter reciever, where can I get one from and can I buy one that I can permenantly install in my car?
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You will allways need a GPS receiver with (almost) any PocketPC based navigation solution.
From personal experience I would recommend a Bluetooth receiver. Make sure you have a 1.72 ROM version for good Bluetooth operation. There are many threads on that on the forum.
You will also need a power supply (to XDAII and to Bluetooth GPS for uninterrupted operation and quick GPS fixes)
And you would need a car cradle or 'real' carkit in oder to be able to have a good view on the screen
If you dont like to be bother by the limited storage amount a SD memory card is ver advisable, beware of the bad performing ones
Good software is TomTom Navigator 3
Like I said: This forum has lots of threads on this subject. Alternatively check out www.pocketgpsworld.co.uk
Thanx for the advice I'm still a newbe to this phone I haven't even had it a week yet. but already it looks like lots of fun 8)
Check this out:
http://www.totalpda.com/Holux-Powered-GPS-PDA-Mount-for-XDA-Series-I-Mate-Q-Tec-2020.aspx
It's a Car cradle / GPS / powered / loud speaker etc etc....all you need next is Tomtom or simular.
My mate has one and it's great. Removes the need for a seperate GPS receiver, which would need power itself. Don't know if you can get in Canada but probably.
HPJ
heck this out:
http://www.totalpda.com/Holux-Powered-GPS-PDA-Mount-for-XDA-Series-I-Mate-Q-Tec-2020.aspx
It's a Car cradle / GPS / powered / loud speaker etc etc....all you need next is Tomtom or simular.
My mate has one and it's great. Removes the need for a seperate GPS receiver, which would need power itself. Don't know if you can get in Canada but probably.
HPJ
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Thanks looks like a Phatt product. Unfortuntely I've already bought the cradle and gps seperate.
Beware: The product looks nice BUT: It's probably useless when your car has a heat-resistant windscreen.
These windscreens have a metal-like foil in it which does not let radio (GPS are radio signals) signals thru. These windscreen however always have 1 or 2 spots (most likely next to the mirror) where the foil is absent. Meant for toll cards, but also useable to stick a GPS mouse to it. For that you do need a GPS that can be placed (I glueed a plastic box with double-sided tape to the windscreen foil-free spot in which my BT (permanently powered) GPS is sitting).
Works like a charm.
Edsud - wow, seems logical. Guess many have bought the product and spent ages trying to get it to work, without any luck. Thanks for the warning.
How good are the Bluetooth receivers? ie does the Bluetooth stay 'well connected'? What about if you want to use a BT headset as well, can you run 2 BT devices at the same time?
Cheers
HPJ
I have found BT to be VERY stable (using the 1.72 rom & standard Bt stack), also when I use both GPS & Headset at the same time.
I have fitted the BT GPS with a constant 12V wire resulting in continuous power. Which results in a permanent fix (BT GPS's seem to keep working even when there is no device connected). When I start TomTom I never have to wait for a fix, it;s there when I start TomTom.
When you do not do this you will notice a delay to get a first fix. This delay is relatively short when the GPS has not realy moved since it was last switched on. The delay also depends on the type of GPS. I know of a Holux CF GPS (wichs gets switched off when you take it out of the PocketPC) on a Dell Axim that takes about 1 minute to get its first fix again. Imagine how long that takes when you have to wait for it . . .
im using the same as ed and it runs like a dream scary i know
I use Tom Tom 3 BT with XDA II. Works great.
No BT headset yet byt it's coming soon.
Rgds
Andrew
I have installed it on 2 different XDA2's and it works brialliantly.
I have tried searching the forums and can't find much Info.
Is anybody here using the above system for telephony & GPS; If so how do they intergrate/do they work well on the XDA II (I have ROM Version 1.72 with Radio1.17)
I Know about the headset profile probs not giving full functionality of the Handsfree use of the car kit but this doesn't bother me to much as long as I can Make and receive calls.
Thanks in anticipation!
I was going to get a CK3100, but heard so many problems regarding build quality, and lack of support, I got a HCB 30 instead.
It did not help when I tried to e-mail parrot for advice and 3 different e-mail adresses bounced back.
Works Perfect!
Just had the CK3300 installed today and it works perfectly - I Knew some of the functions didn't work because the XDA2 only supports headset profile but once you have transferred your contacts to the kit via bluetooth it works well.
Also the GPS works well with CoPilot 5 live; it picked up the signal straight away ; well pleased with this set up!!
same to me have the ck3300 tested with qtek2020 - works fine. problems with 9090 but after bluetooth update now it works fine. No tests with S100 at this time.
tested GPS with destinator 3 and map&guide fleet navigator and mobileobjects fleet management system.
don't use bluetooth tools after Rom 1.66 :!: CK3x00 didn't work aber installation of this
Set up
Just had the CK3300 installed today and it works perfectly - I Knew some of the functions didn't work because the XDA2 only supports headset profile but once you have transferred your contacts to the kit via bluetooth it works well.
Also the GPS works well with CoPilot 5 live; it picked up the signal straight away ; well pleased with this set up!!
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Any tips on setting up the CK3300 with my XDA2?
Just had the car kit fitted - i need both nav and handsfree functions - but i am not sure that i have got the phone and ck3300 to bond properly. So everything is 'greyed out' on the parrot.
Using ROM 1.72.00WWE (1.72.181) and radio 1.17.00
Thanks for any help received.
If everything is greyed out then it isn't bonded properly!
Step 1
Delete the pairings you have from XDA2 and car Kit;
Step 2
On the car kit turn the control knob untill settings appear- then scroll to 'Advanced Settings' - 'pairing a telephone' - 'windows CE device'
Step 3
Now search for devices using your XDA2 and the car kit should be shown.
Step 4
Enter passcode 1234 and accept headset and serial profiles when shown.
PAIRING COMPLETE
to access your phonebook you need to transfere the contacts via bluetooth to the car kit.
Hope this helps
XDA2 CK3300
Managed to get the GPS set up (fiddling with COM ports - even imbeciles strike lucky sometimes)
Some items are now in black. However, I am not sure that I have done it right as I cannot get it to use my phone to make calls or receive them. Which is exactly why I bought it in the first place.
So, please (please please) can you tell me how to exchange my phonebook?
I am going to sit in the car right now and have a go at your bonding advice...maybe all will become clear (but that is not often my experience!)
Thanks again for your help.
You need to bond the phones in the manner I described or it will not work ; this is clearly ststed in the Parrot instructions and on their website.
(I have noticed a strong correlation between people who do not read instructions and complain things do not work!!) - Joke
You also need to make sure your headset profile is active on the XDA 2 for it to work. Again reading the instructions for the phonebook - you tap and hold a contact on the XDA2 and select 'beam contact' - 'via bluetooth' the bluetooth search then comes up and the car kit will be found you then 'tap to send'
Now i have the opposite problem!
Believe it or not, I have now got the XDA2 and the CK3300 bonding automatically so I can make and receive calls whilst driving. It works pretty well (occasionally makes an awful noise, but only occasionally). I am impressed.
However, once I had done that, the GPS is undetectable. I have tried all sorts of combinations. I have checked the instructions - and selected the long code (ends in 9600) but I am not certain that I am using the right com port. I have tried most of them without success.
Oddly, this is the one thing that WAS working before I got the car kit to work (for calls). Somehow, either I have lost the right settings OR the XDA2 won't do both (although I read somewhere that it would) OR my ROM needs updating (uh?)
Please help.
BTW, I am due a phone upgrade - I love the xda2 but would consider getting another phone if necessary, if anyone can recommend one that is fully CK3300 and TomTom compatible.
I don't use Tom Tom myself but from reading these forums I think you need to install the patch on their website to allow Tom Tom to use the correct Port .
Your Car Kit also needs it's software updating if it makes a noise like you say. On the Car Kit go to > settings-advanced settings-information and you will find the software version (sounds like 4.03) if it makes a noise. The latest on the Parrot website is 4.10b and this will fix the noise issue.
If you need help installing this let me know.
The best Phone is surprisingly the Old Fashioned Nokia 6310i - it has a good bluetooth stack and uses the handsfree profile rather than the headset so contacts sync automatically but if you require live traffic info best stick with what you got as the Nokia will not pair with the XDAII and the car kit at same time.
Which COM port?
For the moment, I have a temporary solution.
However, I have updated the TomTom Navigator software and the GPS, but still don't know which port the GPS in the CK3300 should be connected to.
Any ideas?
And, thanks Nikpro for the excellent help so far - you are a true altruist and a star!
The outbound port on the xdaII is port 5 by default
On XDAII go to Settings - System tab - Bluetooth settings and make sure you check the tick box for outbound COM port.
There is also a chance you have deleted your serial port profile so tap on the bluetooth icon in the Today Screen and go to bonded devices. Select the CK3300 and delete partnership (do not delete pairing from car kit end!)
Then search for new devices from the XDAII and the CK3300 will again come up; create a new partenship and everything should be good.
Still having problems
Oddly, I still cannot use the GPS on the CK3300.
I am using my old TomTom at the moment for GPS and the CK3300 for headset - which works fine, but I wanted the CK3300 to do both.
When I try and reset the GPS to the (series of numbers ending in 9600) as stated in the info and the instructions (Nikpro, take note - I have read them - but your comment made me laugh), the TomTom just 'freezes'. Wait - and wait - and wait - and when it reincarnates itself, no GPS at all.
I am using the 1.72.00WWE rom and radio 1.17.00
I think that I have tried every permutation for the COM port.
Has anyone any ideas? Please?
When you initially pair your XDA to the car kit do you get a message about serial connection show on the screen? The problem must be with the tom tom software as with copilot and mapopolis it works fine? or the way you are pairing the two!
What software version is the car kit? PLEASE DESCRIBE HOW YOU ARE PAIRING THE DEVICES??
Hi all, 1st post and all that.
Have you tried falshing the parrot with the newest rom, mine picked up enough to make and recieve call, but i flashed my xdaII with 2.02.T1WWE this morning and it works even better.
Hope you get a result
nikpro said:
I don't use Tom Tom myself but from reading these forums I think you need to install the patch on their website to allow Tom Tom to use the correct Port .
Your Car Kit also needs it's software updating if it makes a noise like you say. On the Car Kit go to > settings-advanced settings-information and you will find the software version (sounds like 4.03) if it makes a noise. The latest on the Parrot website is 4.10b and this will fix the noise issue.
If you need help installing this let me know.
The best Phone is surprisingly the Old Fashioned Nokia 6310i - it has a good bluetooth stack and uses the handsfree profile rather than the headset so contacts sync automatically but if you require live traffic info best stick with what you got as the Nokia will not pair with the XDAII and the car kit at same time.
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Use Bluetooth tools www.bluetooth.jazztel.es
and edit the registry under hkey local machine, builtin, BTIBserial, rename BTIBserial.dll into BTIOBserial.dll
and go Start, Settings, System, Bluetooth settings and check both inbound and outbound.
Delete ALL paired devices, reboot, and re pair them.
You will now have an option for two serial ports, one for each device.
This is the only way to do it if you have two devices that need a serial port. If you have a third, you are SOL.
Normally, the stupid programmers who made the MS BT program, made it so it only had one dynamic port for BT. Some people would experience having to reboot before switching BT devices, most would have to re pair every dam time.
The new 2005 does not have this problem but it has other bugs.
They smart people at MS changed the databases so Mapopolis and other third party programs can not read the contacts or have other bugs with them. Plus the 2005 version here limits your memory.
The 2.02 - 2.06 will NOT work with Hands Free and most car kits need it and if you have caller ID via BT, you are SOL too.
The 2.20 is a stable and a good OS and the Hands free works much better. The down side is, when I get a call on the call waiting, even if I did not answer, it would disconnect the BT headset and no sound through the phone too. I would have to, click on Tools, Hands Free off, tools Hands
Free on before it would work. I have lost many clients this way.
I decided to disable call waiting in the phone settings and it only has a few bugs now like I have to turn off and then back on the BT headset after ever call or it would revert to Headset mode.
The caller ID will not display if the call is in the history of my BT headset or if it is in my contacts database.
I mention my BT headset because it is like a car system when used in Hands free mode.
Good luck, let me know if you have any trouble now.
Parrot 3100 with XDA II
Hello,
I have just put in a Parrot 3100 and it works fine as a handsfree phone.
is there any way when I am not in the car though to use my Jabra 250v headset without rebonding and selecting it as the preferred headset device?
I can't seem to switch between the Parrot and the Jabra when the other one is not in use without repairing.
Thanks for any advice
BT
Try turning of one and turning on the other and soft reset..
Ok, I have just spent my entire weekend trying to get my Qtek 9090 to communicate to my newly installed Parrot CK3300 (with GPS). I have read the manual about 3 times from beginning to end, know the whole website parrot.biz by hard (ugly site BTW), and have tried about everything in configuring, but with no success so far.
Initially I had the 2 devices paired to each other, but after I installed Tom Tom 3, it is impossible for me to get them to pair again. Nevertheless, the 2 devices "see" each other (when asked in "Linked devices"), but they can not get to communicate. From all the stuff I have read on forums and sites, it seems that I need to upgrade my Bluetooth version, but I have no idea how and where to start this procedure.
Can anyone help me out here ?
Any tips are welcome !
I cannot start using my navi kit for many days because of one problem: I leave BT GPS receiver outside for at least 20 hrs to initialise, connect to device regularly, run NAVIGON and get always the same message - "A GPS receiver has been detected, but a convinient GPS signal is not available. The reception is obstructed, or the receiver is being initialised."
Any idea what to do?
Slaven, it could be a faulty receiver, do you have a program for viewing the signal and number of sats being received? It maybe also that the settings are wrong for the gps, what is the model of receiver you are using and details please of how you set it up when bonding etc. Have you carried out a factory reset of the receiver also? One other thing, sometimes a gps reciver will work much better for initialising first time if it is mobile rather than static, put it in the car and see if you have any results after a mile or 2. Try this program to test the gps function.
Please check your PM I have sent one to you. thanks.
I`m using BT GPS receiver delivered in original kit with Navigon 4 (made by GNS). I`ve bonded them regularly (XDA II asked for code and I entered 0000 - as described in operation manual). I have not performed factory reset of GPS rec. because don`t know how to do that. I couldn`t find any possible way to do that, except to remove BT and TMC moduls and I have done so.
Thank`s for gpsdiag, but I don`t know hoe to connect BT GPS with my notebook (with built in BT) to test it. Only service available is to connect it to serial port, but couldn`t. As you can conclude, I`m not very experienced with this, so I need really DETAILED help! Thank`s in advance.
Sorry, I sent the wrong version of diag, I will pm you the proper file.
The BT version of serail port on qtek is not compatible with wildcomm BT (used by navigon) got to navigon website and download the wildcomm patch
this will solve your problem
I was using navigon with wired gps and then tried bluetooth which dropped signal and refused to reconnect, thanks for the link I will try it.
I did the pairing with my pc and if I send a file from the Magician to Pc I have no problem.
The problem is sending a file from the Pc to the Magician..
are there any fixes?
A similar problem is with my external bluetooth GPS I do the pairing but I get no signal from any COM* port
Do you set "Start->Settings->Connections->Beam" and also BT visibility ON?
Yes. The PC see the "Magician" but then I'm not able to send anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354198&page=2
It seems that others have problems with WM6.1 and BT GPS.
Does your external GPS work with Magician/WM6.1 ?
I have the same problem with my GPS receptor. How can I solve this problem..???
Please I need help.
NeoMM: are u able to receive a file via BT in the Magician?
I don't want to go back to WM2003!
I think there is a problem with the BT stack on WM6.1, went I try to send a file to the magician it wakes up but no notification is provided (and then "Connection refused" on the pc).
is possible to hack the BT in some way?
assente,
I can send files to other devices, but I can`t receive files from them.
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How do the others WM6.1/Magician fix the Bluetooth stack?
tomtom doesnt like GPS from BT, but i use Igo 8.3.2 and GoogleMaps and it works well..
Pairing of BT GPS
I can confirm a perfect pairing of Holux 236 and Holux M1000B with the WM6.1 BT set up.
I can confirm a perfect operation with 4 separate GPS software Sirftech, GPS-info, Swedish Hastighetskamror(speed cameras), Swedish pocket kartex.
I can confirm a perfect pairing and file transfer with / to Sonyericson Xperia
I have sofar not tested TomTom.
Please devide your info concerning pairing and operation of GPS software.
P-O
I have fixed the BT GPS issues following the tips on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499983
I have fixed my problem with the BT GPS following the tips on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499983. But i still having trouble receiving files by BT from other phones. I need help please
Any WWE_O3 users could say something about the Bluetooth?
Does it work now?
Hello everyone!
I have an issue with O3D's bluetooth and BT GPS receiver Qstarz 818XT... I can pair the GPS but can't use for some reason - using Gingerbread / Promethius... I've tried many kernels (stock, promethius v1.5+, no idea!,...) but unfortunately without any success. ...also tried stock V21A,V21E.
Other applications such as the Trackmaster simply won't work at all (Bluetooth GPS external app throws error: "Connection Failed - socket failed to connect"). All other bluetooth devices are working like a charm. Also, under ICS (V30A), only Racechrono works! Any thoughts how to debug such an issue?
In this video you can see with Desire HD, working without any problems...
youtube.com/watch?v=0_KMbNpESok&feature=youtu.be
... and here is my O3D (take a look at the indicators on the GPS, it seems the phone wants to communicate but something goes wrong)
youtube.com/watch?v=xRioS7Brvck&feature=youtu.be
Thanks guys!