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[Q] Droid 2 Global 3G Bands outside the US

Hi all. I've just found out about this brilliant phone. Had no idea it existed. I've always liked the Motorola Milestone (qwerty physical keyboards are a must to me) however i ended up getting the wrong version of the milestone (european) with the wrong 3G bands for my carrier so i could only get Edge speeds.
Anyways, it seems like the Droid 2 Global version uses simcards. I live in the Dominican Republic, Claro (my carrier) runs on the 850/1900 bands and it seems like the D2G can work with them, in theory. I've been reading a couple of threads regarding this though, it seems like those bands have been locked out by verizon so people don't use it on other US carriers such as AT&T which happens to run on the same bands i need (850/1900). But others say its the carrier ID that has been locked out. I read something about a user being able to get 3G speeds on Chile, but i've no idea what bands he was using.
What i want to know is, if i ordered a Droid 2 Global phone, would i be getting 3G speeds using my Claro simcard here after having it sim-unlocked?
There's also the Milestone 2 of course, but they seem to cost $500+ plus they dont specify which bands the phone works with. I dont want to end up buying the wrong phone version again. Also, It seemsl ike the droid 2 global is being sold for a less ($300-400).

XtriFe said:
Hi all. I've just found out about this brilliant phone. Had no idea it existed. I've always liked the Motorola Milestone (qwerty physical keyboards are a must to me) however i ended up getting the wrong version of the milestone (european) with the wrong 3G bands for my carrier so i could only get Edge speeds.
Anyways, it seems like the Droid 2 Global version uses simcards. I live in the Dominican Republic, Claro (my carrier) runs on the 850/1900 bands and it seems like the D2G can work with them, in theory. I've been reading a couple of threads regarding this though, it seems like those bands have been locked out by verizon so people don't use it on other US carriers such as AT&T which happens to run on the same bands i need (850/1900). But others say its the carrier ID that has been locked out. I read something about a user being able to get 3G speeds on Chile, but i've no idea what bands he was using.
What i want to know is, if i ordered a Droid 2 Global phone, would i be getting 3G speeds using my Claro simcard here after having it sim-unlocked?
There's also the Milestone 2 of course, but they seem to cost $500+ plus they dont specify which bands the phone works with. I dont want to end up buying the wrong phone version again. Also, It seemsl ike the droid 2 global is being sold for a less ($300-400).
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http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_2_global-3636.php
read the spec

I am using my SIM-unlocked D2G fine here, on a carrier that uses 850MHz UMTS.
The Milestone 2, as far as I know, is still only available in a 900/2100 UMTS variant so far.
From what I gather, the lock Verizon put on the radio to prevent use on US GSM carriers is based on the MCC (mobile country code) number associated with networks based in the USA, and not the frequencies themselves. In effect, once unlocked the phone will work with any GSM provider (on a supported frequency), except those based in the U.S. This would explain why the AT&T 850MHz network (MCC 301) doesn't work, whereas the Telstra 850MHz network I use (MCC 505) does.
One complication about buying a Droid 2 Global now, is that from various reports on this forum, some devices don't respond to their SIM unlock codes (!) and are effectively unlockable. If I were buying a D2G now for use on a GSM carrier, I'd only buy one that has already been unlocked - wouldn't want to take the chance on getting a phone that is unlockable. This might be why some are being listed for dirt cheap!

helmutiffe said:
I am using my SIM-unlocked D2G fine here, on a carrier that uses 850MHz UMTS.
From what I gather, the lock Verizon put on the radio to prevent use on US GSM carriers is based on the MCC (mobile country code) number associated with networks based in the USA, and not the frequencies themselves. In effect, once unlocked the phone will work with any GSM provider (on a supported frequency), except those based in the U.S. This would explain why the AT&T 850MHz network (MCC 301) doesn't work, whereas the Telstra 850MHz network I use (MCC 505) does.
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Brilliant, thats what i wanted to know, many thanks !
helmutiffe said:
One complication about buying a Droid 2 Global now, is that from various reports on this forum, some devices don't respond to their SIM unlock codes (!) and are effectively unlockable. If I were buying a D2G now for use on a GSM carrier, I'd only buy one that has already been unlocked - wouldn't want to take the chance on getting a phone that is unlockable. This might be why some are being listed for dirt cheap!
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Wow thats not good is it. Thanks for the advice, i'll make sure the phone is unlocked. I've never really understood how phones are unlocked by third party anyways. But I understand you can have them unlocked by giving verizon a call and under certain conditions, they'll provide the unlock code for free.

I was in the Dominican Republic last week with my D2G and it worked perfectly (unlocked using Rogers Canada service). Claro service sucked a bit (coverage wise) but worked fine (3G), Orange (EDGE) seemed a bit better where I was.
I am pretty sure you will be fine AS LONG AS you get unlockable/unlocked D2G.

ok one last question,
does anyone know if a droid with bad esn will work ok with a different carrier's simcard if unlocked?
I would assume droids with bad esn will be going for cheaper on ebay

bas esn mean d phone could be stolen so it will b a hassle to clear the esn

How can one know if the phone has a bad ESN? Just wondering.

TripleMPower said:
How can one know if the phone has a bad ESN? Just wondering.
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Obtain the esn from whomever you are purchasing from. Then ask Verizon regarding the esn you were provided.
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk

but wouldnt you only need a clear ESN if you're going to use the phone with CDMA? or would that affect GSM usage as well ? (simcards)

According to the eBay listing I bought mine from, it has a bad ESN (at least, it explicitly stated "will not activate on Verizon") - but the GSM/UMTS radio works fine.

helmutiffe said:
According to the eBay listing I bought mine from, it has a bad ESN (at least, it explicitly stated "will not activate on Verizon") - but the GSM/UMTS radio works fine.
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Bad ESN will only affect use on Verizon and its MNVOs (possibly). GSM networks will work fine. Just remember though if it's not already unlocked, and the ebay unlocker codes don't work, it will probably be near impossible getting verizon to give you the code for a phone with bad esn.

thanks for the info. I''ll look for unlocked plus bad ESN phones on ebay and see if theyre any cheaper

Asus Padfone in USA?

I want to know if someone is using the Asus Padfone in the USA. (or other Countries)
I'm a little confused with the issue of carriers and their specifications and compatibility.
I would like to use Padfone on GSM with 3G or HSPDA+ (i.e. AT&T)
I see Padfone for sale on eBay and information you can give me would help me to order Padfone from Taiwan to USA.
All info are welcome.
Thanks in advance.

bmita said:
I want to know if someone is using the Asus Padfone in the USA. (or other Countries)
I'm a little confused with the issue of carriers and their specifications and compatibility.
I would like to use Padfone on GSM with 3G or HSPDA+ (i.e. AT&T)
I see Padfone for sale on eBay and information you can give me would help me to order Padfone from Taiwan to USA.
All info are welcome.
Thanks in advance.
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After researching I discovered that compatibility of Padfone depends of UMST / HSDPA especification.
Asus Padfone USMT/HSDPA: 900, 2100 MHz
Compatibility: Europa (partial), Asia, Australia (NOT Americas)
Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) USMT/HSDPA: 800, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Compatibility: International (World)
That would explain why Asus Padfone launched in Australia and Italy soon.
Conclusions: we have to wait for the U.S. (or Americas) version. Very disappointing.
I hope this information will help you...

The Padfone will work on AT&T. It will only, however, work on Edge off of AT&T. You'll be stuck with 2G speeds. Unless you wait for the 3G/H+/LTE version released specifically for the US.

There wont be a US version, at least not anytime soon. I had emailed Hai Trat at asus a few months back asking about the padfone. He said that as of now there are no plans on bringing it to the US market. They feel (as well as the carriers) that the market is too saturated over here. He did say he would let me know if this ever changed but it doesnt look like it will.
exact quote from the email:
"For the Padfone. I do not think it will be released in North American shores. The market it too saturated over here with cellular devices and our partnerships with USA/CANADA cellular carriers view it the same way. I’ll let you know if this changes."
I do think the international version should be compatible with ATT bands. Most international phones seem to have the same bands as ATT. It's the TMO bands that are a pain in the ass because they use the AWS band for their 3G/H+

According to TheVerge and GSMArena its already in the US
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Ichisan76 said:
According to TheVerge and GSMArena its already in the US
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Yes, it is. But it hasnt and wont be officially released here unless that changes. Its available through Negri and expandsys but they are imports.

graffixnyc said:
Yes, it is. But it hasnt and wont be officially released here unless that changes. Its available through Negri and expandsys but they are imports.
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Been waiting for this since they first showcased it back when it still had the silver stripe on the back over the camera Sucks I've been waiting for nothing. This is disappointing news, but thank you for this info. I appreciate it

I bought one in Taiwan and brought it with me on vacation to the US. I used the AT&T prepaid sim with it with no problems.

spoonerweb_com said:
I bought one in Taiwan and brought it with me on vacation to the US. I used the AT&T prepaid sim with it with no problems.
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I brought one from mainland China to Austin, TX. It works fine with AT&T prepaid card but only works on the slow EDGE2 network. Because padfone runs 3G on WCDMA using the European frequency, I don't think it will be compatible with any US telecom operator regarding 3G net.

spoonerweb_com said:
I bought one in Taiwan and brought it with me on vacation to the US. I used the AT&T prepaid sim with it with no problems.
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tc25898 said:
I brought one from mainland China to Austin, TX. It works fine with AT&T prepaid card but only works on the slow EDGE2 network. Because padfone runs 3G on WCDMA using the European frequency, I don't think it will be compatible with any US telecom operator regarding 3G net.
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Were you able to use the phone (calling + texting) capabilities in the US? How slow does it run using EDGE? Thanks

User Experiences in US?
I've been thinking of getting one of the PadFones, but I was interested in hear everyones' experiences (esp. using the cellular internet) before I made my decision. Anyone have any?

Just got the Padfone Infinity from eBay. I'm with AT&T and can only get 2G (Edge) data speeds unfortunately.

Asus Padfone Infinity 2
Hi, guys a few days ago Asus present the second generation of Padfone Infinity, this new generation supports four UMTS bands (850, 900, 1900 and 2100) like Galaxy International version.
This fact is confirmed in GSMArena and Engadget website.
I hope this information helps.

European smartphone in USA (3G/LTE)

Hello.
Like in 2013, I'm going to spend summer in USA and I need help with solving one problem. I'm living in Poland and we are using 1900/2100 UMTS. Of course I bought my GT-I9100 here and it works really well in all European countries, but not in USA. Last summer, I bought prepaid card from SimpleMobile (T-Mobile) and I had to use EDGE (2G) for two months. I wasn't prepere for that. But I want to be smarter this year and get some informations from you What should I do to have 3G/LTE in USA as well as in Poland? I was thinking about changing phone to Lumia 920. If I'll buy this phone in Poland, will it works in USA? I mean 3G/LTE of course. Or maybe I should buy american version of this phone, but I'm not sure if it will work with Polish 1900/2100? Or maybe I just chose wrong prepaid plan and that's why it didn't work?
I depend upon to you guys and I would be very grateful for your help
Sorry for my english

North American Nexus 5 in Asia

Hi,
I have a north american version Nexus 5 bought in Canada. I will be travelling to Hong Kong and want to use the 4G network there
Am I able to do this or the north american verison cannot use the 4G LTE bands in Hong Kong
Is there any way to flash it or ROM it to change the bands if so?
Thanks

US version should NOT work in HK
If it is only for a short visit, you might have a look for pocket Wifi instead, Many shopping mall offer free Wifi there.
http://www.wifibb.com/en

4G of US version (D820) will not work, only 2G and 3G working.
p.s. my wife got the D820 which bought from google online when in canada, so I quite sure about that.

DummyPLUG said:
4G of US version (D820) will not work, only 2G and 3G working.
p.s. my wife got the D820 which bought from google online when in canada, so I quite sure about that.
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You are indeed correct. Everything but LTE will work just fine.

I have a similar question, but flipped a little for the D821. I want to buy my wife a Nexus 5 phone that will work in both China and Hong Kong -- preferably 4G.
What if I purchase the D821 for use in Asia that, from my research on the 4G LTE bands, will work on 4G in those two countries. Then I bring it back to the US for use. Can anyone confirm whether it will work on US GSM based networks' 4G? I'm almost positive it will not work on either T-Mobile or AT&T, but I can't find much info on any other GSM based network here in the US (which I think use AT&T or T-Mobile networks anyway).
I'd appreciate any help you can offer. I'm still doing research, but there's a good deal going on on ebay for brand new, unlocked D821s for about $375 USD -- reputable Top Seller too. So, I probably need to act fast. In the end, this will be my wife's first smartphone, and so 3G will be fast enough for her, and works perfectly fine in both US and Asia.
THANKS!

okayplay? said:
I have a similar question, but flipped a little for the D821. I want to buy my wife a Nexus 5 phone that will work in both China and Hong Kong -- preferably 4G.
What if I purchase the D821 for use in Asia that, from my research on the 4G LTE bands, will work on 4G in those two countries. Then I bring it back to the US for use. Can anyone confirm whether it will work on US GSM based networks' 4G? I'm almost positive it will not work on either T-Mobile or AT&T, but I can't find much info on any other GSM based network here in the US (which I think use AT&T or T-Mobile networks anyway).
I'd appreciate any help you can offer. I'm still doing research, but there's a good deal going on on ebay for brand new, unlocked D821s for about $375 USD -- reputable Top Seller too. So, I probably need to act fast. In the end, this will be my wife's first smartphone, and so 3G will be fast enough for her, and works perfectly fine in both US and Asia.
THANKS!
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Its the same answer, flipped.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

okayplay? said:
I have a similar question, but flipped a little for the D821. I want to buy my wife a Nexus 5 phone that will work in both China and Hong Kong -- preferably 4G.
What if I purchase the D821 for use in Asia that, from my research on the 4G LTE bands, will work on 4G in those two countries. Then I bring it back to the US for use. Can anyone confirm whether it will work on US GSM based networks' 4G? I'm almost positive it will not work on either T-Mobile or AT&T, but I can't find much info on any other GSM based network here in the US (which I think use AT&T or T-Mobile networks anyway).
I'd appreciate any help you can offer. I'm still doing research, but there's a good deal going on on ebay for brand new, unlocked D821s for about $375 USD -- reputable Top Seller too. So, I probably need to act fast. In the end, this will be my wife's first smartphone, and so 3G will be fast enough for her, and works perfectly fine in both US and Asia.
THANKS!
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3G will work, 4G will not work. Basically the N5 is a world phone except when it comes to LTE, then you need either the North American version or the rest of the world version.

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Again international model don't have all the bands for USA carriers

joeyac02 said:
Again international model don't have all the bands for USA carriers
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Hey there,
Not that I am 100% sure, but I've called this statement into question in another thread, I'll repost here.
In one of the threads here on XDA, another member suggested he ordered the intl. model and it didnt support the right bands for the USA. Leading me to think there were multiple models.
I'm starting to think there isn't, here is why.
1. Michael Fisher (I think he's in Canada) imported a TW market phone for his early review. It appears to have LTE in the film, and he doesnt mention anything about incompatibilities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIWbn8ecKwA
2. Jeff Springer (I think he's in the USA) imported a HK market phone, it also appears to have LTE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fclOYUyfxnE&t=522s
I believe the belief that the intl. model doesnt support USA bands (2/4, etc) comes from the practice (poor practice, admittedly) for HTC's Taiwanese website to only declare the bands that it perceives are relevant to Taiwanese users. The HK website suggests the same as taiwan = FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28 TDD: B38/B39/B40/B41
The UK / India / USA / AU sites all state - FDD: Bands B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20/B28TDD: Bands B38/B39/B40/B41
With USA & AU not stating support for dual sim, but HK, TW, India, UK do.
I believe there is only one model (with multiple software variations), and the information published being variable.
I now know there are at least 2 model numbers. U-1u (Taiwan and HK confirmed to use this model, dual sim), and U-1h (single sim, AU and UK confirmed). But given the info above (michael fisher and Jeff Springer both importing the U-1u, and seemingly can connect to north american lte, seems to suggest that the band support for U-1u is wider than the official website specs)

HTC U Ultra - got from imobilephonex
Hey there
I got from New HTC U Ultra form imobilephonex
Really good price & brilliant phone :good:

Here is the breakdown officially from HTC's website. The dual band international version is missing 2, 4, 12 and 17. 17 being the most important one.

So get this I wake up to a text from FedEx saying I have a package coming I didn't order anything else so it's out for delivery! I checked the HTC site and it still says it hasn't been shipped and no tracking number!

It's cheaper on eBay (649) and it's from a US based seller instead of having it shipped from Asia. What is holding me back from this phone is the horrific resale value of HTC and LG products. Once the S8 is announced/released this HTC U Ultra can be purchased for an insane amount less than full retail. Apple and Samsung phones hold their value well even used but unfortunately phones like this are not worth buying new for full retail IMO.

sephstyler said:
Hey there,
Not that I am 100% sure, but I've called this statement into question in another thread, I'll repost here.
In one of the threads here on XDA, another member suggested he ordered the intl. model and it didnt support the right bands for the USA. Leading me to think there were multiple models.
I'm starting to think there isn't, here is why.
1. Michael Fisher (I think he's in Canada) imported a TW market phone for his early review. It appears to have LTE in the film, and he doesnt mention anything about incompatibilities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIWbn8ecKwA
2. Jeff Springer (I think he's in the USA) imported a HK market phone, it also appears to have LTE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fclOYUyfxnE&t=522s
I believe the belief that the intl. model doesnt support USA bands (2/4, etc) comes from the practice (poor practice, admittedly) for HTC's Taiwanese website to only declare the bands that it perceives are relevant to Taiwanese users. The HK website suggests the same as taiwan = FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28 TDD: B38/B39/B40/B41
The UK / India / USA / AU sites all state - FDD: Bands B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20/B28TDD: Bands B38/B39/B40/B41
With USA & AU not stating support for dual sim, but HK, TW, India, UK do.
I believe there is only one model (with multiple software variations), and the information published being variable.
I now know there are at least 2 model numbers. U-1u (Taiwan and HK confirmed to use this model, dual sim), and U-1h (single sim, AU and UK confirmed). But given the info above (michael fisher and Jeff Springer both importing the U-1u, and seemingly can connect to north american lte, seems to suggest that the band support for U-1u is wider than the official website specs)
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Having an LTE sign does not mean it supports the entire range of the network.