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Unlocked US model in Europe

Have been searching the whole day, but is there any difference in supported LTE bands between the US and Europe model? I haven't found any differences... Seems there is only one unlocked model? (Differences aside from RAM).
Visiting New York in January, this looks like the ideal phone for my girlfriend… Hope to bring one home for her.

EU is HIA_AERO_UHL same as M9 ：）

The only international LTE bands that the unlocked US model supports are 3 and 7. Okay for occasional roaming in Europe but not enough in my opinion if you were going to use it there all the time.

That is because of soft or hardware? I bought US modell because of 3/32 GB, hoped there is no real difference....

working great for me in Germany
Hello all,
for me the unlocked 32GB version is working greate with LTE (tmobile network) in Germany.
MarcMarin

Where did you bought it?
What kind of cable / power supply did you get delivered with? (german or not)

FRD-L04 European band support

Hi all, I ordered a 32 GB Pearl White (presumably FRD-L04) on Amazon's Black Friday sale, I live in the UK, had it shipped to a friend in the US. According to hihonor, the phone should support all the US and UK bands. According to FrequencyCheck, only the 64GB (FRD-L14) US model supports the European bands 3 and 20. Which is correct? If the phone I ordered won't support 3 and 20, I may as well return it now.
Thanks!

I also bought Honor 8. Only difference is that US version is single sim and much more LTE bands. According to official site it should support that bands.
I finded here specifications for all versions: http://www.smartphonerankings.com/huawei-honor-8-frd-l04/

marko207 said:
I also bought Honor 8. Only difference is that US version is single sim and much more LTE bands. According to official site it should support that bands.
I finded here specifications for all versions: http://www.smartphonerankings.com/huawei-honor-8-frd-l04/
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Yes, I believe FrequencyCheck is wrong, but it claims the European bands 3 and 20 are only supported in FRD-L14 (the 64 GB version) and not in FRD-L04. Hopefully this is untrue.

AllieKitty said:
Hi all, I ordered a 32 GB Pearl White (presumably FRD-L04) on Amazon's Black Friday sale, I live in the UK, had it shipped to a friend in the US. According to hihonor, the phone should support all the US and UK bands. According to FrequencyCheck, only the 64GB (FRD-L14) US model supports the European bands 3 and 20. Which is correct? If the phone I ordered won't support 3 and 20, I may as well return it now.
Thanks!
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marko207 said:
I also bought Honor 8. Only difference is that US version is single sim and much more LTE bands. According to official site it should support that bands.
I finded here specifications for all versions: http://www.smartphonerankings.com/huawei-honor-8-frd-l04/
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AllieKitty said:
Yes, I believe FrequencyCheck is wrong, but it claims the European bands 3 and 20 are only supported in FRD-L14 (the 64 GB version) and not in FRD-L04. Hopefully this is untrue.
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Hey guys, can you update on this?
I'm studying abroad in England for 5 months and I have this exact model of the Honor 8, and wanted to know if I can get a reliable 4G LTE connection while I'm in England... I'm going to get a plan with Vodafone, EE, or O2 when I get there. If you could let me know, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance!

connorhiller said:
Hey guys, can you update on this?
I'm studying abroad in England for 5 months and I have this exact model of the Honor 8, and wanted to know if I can get a reliable 4G LTE connection while I'm in England... I'm going to get a plan with Vodafone, EE, or O2 when I get there. If you could let me know, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance!
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Check a website called "will my phone work..." (Search in google) and input phone, model...etc

CronaMell said:
Check a website called "will my phone work..." (Search in google) and input phone, model...etc
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I tried that, but, unfortunately the particular model sold at Best Buy and Amazon isn't an option on willmyphonework.net

connorhiller said:
I tried that, but, unfortunately the particular model sold at Best Buy and Amazon isn't an option on willmyphonework.net
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then, you'll have to test it by yourself

CronaMell said:
then, you'll have to test it by yourself
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That's why I'm asking the 2 people who commented in this thread, they live in the UK and can tell me for sure.

Here you go here is a list for radio bands compatibility list for Honor FDR04 /14 /01 AND 14 for use in UK with most of the providers..
www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/K0BOsOx/huawei-honor-8-dual-sim-lte-a-frd-l04/united-kingdom
You can select any country by the way.. If I were you op for Virgin mobile or Plusnet both run off EE but have better signal and deals to the overs..

I bought the FRD-L09 model while I was overseas and I live in the USA, the salesperson assured me it would work on 4G here but it definitely doesn't... If you still have the FRD-L04 model would you be willing to trade? Mine is the blue 32G model and it is basically new, I bought it about a month ago. I love the phone but only having 3G is killing me...

Nyssa1104 said:
Here you go here is a list for radio bands compatibility list for Honor FDR04 /14 /01 AND 14 for use in UK with most of the providers..
www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/K0BOsOx/huawei-honor-8-dual-sim-lte-a-frd-l04/united-kingdom
You can select any country by the way.. If I were you op for Virgin mobile or Plusnet both run off EE but have better signal and deals to the overs..
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Thanks for this, but as someone stated above, I think Frequency Check is wrong here. According to Huawei Customer Care team on Amazon, the supports bands 3, 7, and 20 which are used for LTE in the UK, while Frequency Check doesn't have those.
I have posted a picture of both Huawei's listed network frequencies compared to Frequency Check's.

I never even knew that Honor released a single SIM variant of the Honor 8. I thought all Honor 8's were dual SIMs.

I can confirm Frequency check is wrong. I'm not back in the UK yet but I'm getting LTE on SoftBank in Japan. A warning - this model follows the American practice of calling 3G "4G". Only "4G LTE" actually means 4G.

AllieKitty said:
I can confirm Frequency check is wrong. I'm not back in the UK yet but I'm getting LTE on SoftBank in Japan. A warning - this model follows the American practice of calling 3G "4G". Only "4G LTE" actually means 4G.
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Awesome. Thanks, this is very relieving for me! Loving the phone so far... Had to put Nova Launcher on it but that's OK. I'm quite confident it will work in the UK now.

connorhiller said:
Awesome. Thanks, this is very relieving for me! Loving the phone so far... Had to put Nova Launcher on it but that's OK. I'm quite confident it will work in the UK now.
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Did you have any luck? I will be traveling with this and am trying to figure out the discrepancy between Honors specs and Frequency Check (and also the FCC testing report).

Bobomo said:
Did you have any luck? I will be traveling with this and am trying to figure out the discrepancy between Honors specs and Frequency Check (and also the FCC testing report).
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I think it's because not every country use every bands so Honor indicates only bands used for specific country.
I make an example: Band 20 could be used in USA but not in UK so indicates on UK version it have Band 20 is useless for UK's people

Intl. vs other markets, Dual Sim vs Single sim

Hi all,
There does not seem to be any resource that clearly shows the variations of the U Ultra at present.
I personally have a TW market model, with dual SIM. It appears that the bands on this model are not right for North America (and perhaps also South America) but are fine for my uses in APAC.
Given that there is limited info, perhaps we should gather some information.
Mine: 1.09.709.7 Taiwan model, Dual SIM
I am located in Australia, and Australia launches on March 8. It is unclear to me which model, though the product page on HTC's AU site suggest it would be single sim.
Can others who have gotten an U Ultra in other markets comment on their version? UK / India / NA?
Reason why I've put this in this subforum is so that we can explore the possibilities of opening up hidden bands with different radios (I believe my Taiwan Model supports: FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28 TDD: B38/B39/B40/B41) and the AU model lists FDD: Bands B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20/B28TDD: Bands B38/B39/B40/B41 - which is in line with US?
Also, it may allow single sim to potentially support dual sim? as the dual sim has a combo slot with microsd, perhaps the hardware is there for single sim to support a second sim.
Lets explore what we can do with this phone!

Hi, seems like you posted on the wrong section. Maybe a moderator could move it to "HTC U ULTRA GUIDES, NEWS, & DISCUSSION" ?

Howling Wolf said:
Hi, seems like you posted on the wrong section. Maybe a moderator could move it to "HTC U ULTRA GUIDES, NEWS, & DISCUSSION" ?
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Hey Wolf, you're probably right, a mod prob should move this. I originally intended this to form a basis where we can collect all the different firmware / radios etc, as I was under the impression that there were multiple hardware variations worldwide....
In one of the threads here on XDA, another member suggested he ordered the intl. model and it didnt support the right bands for the USA. Leading me to think there were multiple models.
I'm starting to think there isn't, here is why.
1. Michael Fisher (I think he's in Canada) imported a TW market phone for his early review. It appears to have LTE in the film, and he doesnt mention anything about incompatibilities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIWbn8ecKwA
2. Jeff Springer (I think he's in the USA) imported a HK market phone, it also appears to have LTE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fclOYUyfxnE&t=522s
I believe the belief that the intl. model doesnt support USA bands (2/4, etc) comes from the practice (poor practice, admittedly) for HTC's Taiwanese website to only declare the bands that it perceives are relevant to Taiwanese users. The HK website suggests the same as taiwan = FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28 TDD: B38/B39/B40/B41
The UK / India / USA / AU sites all state - FDD: Bands B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B17/B20/B28TDD: Bands B38/B39/B40/B41
With USA & AU not stating support for dual sim, but HK, TW, India, UK do.
I believe there is only one model (with multiple software variations), and the information published being variable.

@sephstyler. I was thinking the same. ?

profixit said:
@sephstyler. I was thinking the same.
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HTC U Ultra through Vodafone Australia does not support dual sim out of the box. The example I saw today was running 1.09.710.12

I purchased one off of an eBay from a Chinese vendor; I'm pretty sure it's the international version since it has the dual sim and int'l charger. I can confirm no problems here in NY and I'm on T-Mobile.

akhobbes said:
I purchased one off of an eBay from a Chinese vendor; I'm pretty sure it's the international version since it has the dual sim and int'l charger. I can confirm no problems here in NY and I'm on T-Mobile.
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That's pretty good news.
Can you confirm the model number of yours (On box, printed on the back of the handset in feint print) - I'm assuming this is a "U-1u"
If you can also let us know the version number of your firmware - Settings, About, and then Software Info. If you got an Intl' charger it might be China or Hong Kong stock (Taiwan uses the same plugs as US).
So the Hong Kong (and Taiwan) version states: FDD：B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28 TDD：B38/B39/B40/B41, and T-Mo in the USA uses B2 / B4 and B12. So its obvious that the support does exist, just simply not denoted appropriately on the website.
Great news.

Question - are those phones, that are/are not Dual SIM supporters, different in Hardware or just software manipulated limitations? I am asking this as my phones doe not recognize second SIM, but if I were to flash it with unlocked software for dual SIM, would it work? Thank you!

[email protected] said:
Question - are those phones, that are/are not Dual SIM supporters, different in Hardware or just software manipulated limitations? I am asking this as my phones doe not recognize second SIM, but if I were to flash it with unlocked software for dual SIM, would it work? Thank you!
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I'm not sure about that, but I tried 2 ROMs which supported dual SIM, and those weren't able to use the 2nd SIM/sd slot.. not sure about any customizations inside the rom/kernel/whatever though

OK I understand that, still, I am wondering if there are actual hardware limitations for the dual sim or just software, never mind the ROM...

I have buy my phone yesterday and it is a Single SIM phone for EU market (Made In Taiwan) and with productID number finishing with ...100. Dual SIM phones ID finishing with ...200.
I put my sim card to second (mSD/nSIM) slot and i when i turn on phone i have 2 sim cards drawed onphone (one empty and another (absent sim) with a full signal but crossed mark...
Hmmm, sims like have second SIM card software blocked ?

The same thing is happening on my Single SIM (EU) phone. If I insert the second SIM into the 2nd SIM slot, the phone recognizes it and displays a full signal bar with a crossed mark. Obviously, the hardware is capable of handling the second SIM (otherwise it would not be detected at all), but it's crippled in software. So far I did not find a way to unlock Dual SIM support.

Did anyone of you guys try flashing a rom with dual SIM support?

Hi i found main difference between Single Sim and Dual Sim HTC U Ultra :
NETWORK3
2G/2.5G GSM/GPRS/EDGE
Single SIM
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Dual SIM
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS
Single SIM
AWS/850/900/1900/2100 MHz
HSDPA 42, HSUPA 5.76
Dual SIM
850/900/1900/2100 MHz
HSDPA 42, HSUPA 5.76
4G LTE™ (up to 600Mbps)
Single SIM
FDD: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28
TDD: Bands 38, 39, 40, 41 with 2CA, 3CA
Support Cat 11 LTE: downloads up to 600Mbps, uploads up to 50Mbps
VoLTE and WiFi calling
Dual SIM
FDD: Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28
TDD: Bands 38, 39, 40, 41 with 2CA, 3CA
Support Cat 11 LTE: downloads up to 600Mbps, uploads up to 50Mbps
VoLTE and WiFi calling
It appears that Single Sim is made to work with AWS. >>>>> AWS is used in the United States, Argentina, Canada, Colombia, Mexico, Chile, Paraguay, Peru, Ecuador and Uruguay.
and supports more bands then Dual sim one. I think flashing dual sim softwer version will change nothing since you still wont be able to use 2 sim cards.

I was mislead from some reviews, including gsmarena, that said HTC Ultra only had a dual sim version and I bought the phone. Unfortunately it doesn't support the 2nd sim. In my case it doesn't even have any icon crossed... I wonder why does it have the place holder for a second sim...
Anyone was successeful in accessing the 2nd sim on a single sim version? (model number ending in "100")

Actually I've also tried a bit to get dual SIM to work on my single SIM device, but flashing dual SIM activated ROMs wasn't enough and I've no idea what I could try now.
Maybe ask one of the ROM developer's?

Guys i dont think it is possible since as i posted above it is in some way different device. Same as you cant enable more bands support on dual sim version by software.
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Should I wait for the US version, or buy an international one?

Should I wait for the US version of this phone, or buy an international one? Will it be any differences in specs or in 4G/LTE bands for the US version? And how long does it usually take between the international release and US release? Thanks!

The only two bands across T-Mobile and AT&T that I see missing from gsmarena specs are Band 30 (AT&T, not sure how important this is) and Band 71 (hardly any phones have this, so should not miss it)
The rest (Bands 2,4,5,12,17,66) seem to be supported

I've seen these specs, but they are selling now several variants - South American and some others, and it's hard to know what bands they have because models numbers are different than on GSM arena site....

mrvmrvmrv said:
Should I wait for the US version of this phone, or buy an international one? Will it be any differences in specs or in 4G/LTE bands for the US version? And how long does it usually take between the international release and US release? Thanks!
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I have the A70 and it's a South American version and I love it. You'll probably never notice a difference ever, with the exception of Samsung pay.
That will not work with phones outside your home region.
If that doesn't bother you than go for it.
If it does bother you than wait... or wait a bit longer for the 5G version that's just around the corner.
5G version on the way.
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_a71_5g_could_be_heading_to_the_united_states-news-41068.php
Just make sure that the phone you buy has the right frequencies ....Example SM-A515W (Canada) would work whereas SM-A515GN/DS might not.
spend some research time on the frequencies and you'll be fine ....
If you buy from B&H Camera they make it simple and have international versions that work here.
Hope tha helps.

Thanks! Where do they sell Canadian version? Also, is there a website with a listing for model numbers for all countries variants, I couldn'r find one....

Question 5G not working in Kuwait

I just bought Galaxy S22 Ultra from Samsung US website unlocked, then my work moved me to Kuwait. I purchased a 5G sim card but was never able to connect at 5G speed (my carrier is Ooredoo).
I went back to the store the the sales person took my sim card and placed it in an iPhone and the 5G worked perfectly with a speed of 750.
I called Samsung and they told me that because you have a US version, it should only works 5G in the states.
Any suggestions please on what to do?
Please note that I already checked all basic settings like selecting the 5G network and checked the APN settings for Ooredoo.

Sounds like the bands aren't compatible. What 5G bands is ooredoo using?

This is what I found
Ooredoo Kuwait
Company Overview Ooredoo in Kuwait, formerly known as Wataniya Telecom, is the second largest mobile carrier in the country, and a member of the Qatari-owned Ooredoo Group. Commercially launched in December 1999, the company provides mobile, broadband internet and corporate managed services...
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They use a different band than the s22 us unlocked has. I'm there too and no luck with 5g. Worked on an ipad though

ErickF said:
They use a different band than the s22 us unlocked has. I'm there too and no luck with 5g. Worked on an ipad though
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The thing is a company like Apple makes only one version of each model that works everywhere in the world but here Samsung make many varieties of the same model that region specific... Unbelievable. I will no longer buy Samsung and will switch back to iPhone.

ElmoScarletMacaw said:
The thing is a company like Apple makes only one version of each model that works everywhere in the world but here Samsung make many varieties of the same model that region specific... Unbelievable. I will no longer buy Samsung and will switch back to iPhone.
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Just make sure not to buy one in kuwait. They don't have the mmwave bands for the us. So apple does make different models for different markets too. This year just happened to have the 13 series with most bands(not all)

ErickF said:
Just make sure not to buy one in kuwait. They don't have the mmwave bands for the us. So apple does make different models for different markets too. This year just happened to have the 13 series with most bands(not all)
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Oh really! I will wait for the 14 pro max anyway and will make sure it will work in both regions before I buy it. Thanks for your reply Erick.

ElmoScarletMacaw said:
Oh really! I will wait for the 14 pro max anyway and will make sure it will work in both regions before I buy it. Thanks for your reply Erick.
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incase you still have the phone. i just tried the tutorial on unlocking all 5g bands and it works with 5g here in kuwait. just in case you havent tried it

There are two working solutions for S22 Ultra US models at this forum:
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
What is this? This is a guide on how to enable all LTE and 5G bands on the US or Canadian S22 series phones by going through the service menu. This guide is mostly based on this S20U guide by mellojosh, but has been adapted for the S22U phone...
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Enable & Select Bands thru Dialer (S22 Fam) /CSC CHANGE (S22 & MORE)
***Tested on S908U & S908U1*** But not limited, to those specific models. S22 Family should also be compatible as well...as the NEW FOLD 4. Thanks @Abaddon BAND SELECTION: To ENABLE all bands, please do the following: (See pictures attached...
forum.xda-developers.com
Process is relatively easy, and after completing either of those two above, phone ends up with all 4G and 5G bands available