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I have WM6 running on a HTC Trinity (the Orange SPV M700 variant) has been wonderful for over a month now, last night I reset it cause I hadn't in ages and it was getting all bunged up and slow, when it came back everything just stopped working.
Touchflo, HTCHome, all the stuff i had running on startup instantly blasted errors at me, and all the applications i have installed wont run, including .cab installers..
The error is:
"The File [File name] cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring the file."
I'm not one of these idiots who just panicks and complains about a problem, i've searched google a lot, found that its probably the 'security configuration' and found a program that should be able to change it, only, it can't connect to it properly through activesync, i assume because of the same thing. I would just wipe it clean, even re-flash the ROM if i had too, but I want to back everything up first with something like PPCPimBackup which has worked wonders in the past, only, I can't run the executable...
If it really comes down to it i will just manually backup my contacts list and suffer the other losses, but i'm sure there is some genious on these forums who has a magic sollution..
Always keep in mind, it's called a Pocket PC, because it's just like a PC. So from here on out, be sure to reset daily, it's quick and can help over a long run. As far as it not running now (don't know if you have fixed it yet) but try another reset, sometimes when there are too many startup apps, it can cause some chaos and certain apps won't run. Or try uninstalling the apps not working and reinstalling after a reset, after the uninstall.
Also, always a great idea to backup.
I would like to think i'm pretty good with computers, if this happened on my laptop or desktop I'd be able to find the registry values or find a program to change them for me to stop it blocking the apps from running.
Trouble is, I can't run the PPC version of RegEdit because it is blocking EVERY .exe, If it wasn't PPC i'd boot it up in safe mode, using all the default values, but there isn't on in WM6 by default (to my knowledge anyway)
I've reset many times and nothing changes, turned it off, even taken the battery out just in case it made a difference.
I think i'm going to have to do a hard reset and suffer the losses..
Sometimes a hard reset is the only solution.
Saw this in a signautre from NiteStalker, both hilarious and true, "If knowledge is counted in Hard Resets, I must be a genious!"
Don't know how to name my problem, so...
when I'm writing messages, sometimes screen get to bright and I cannot send, cannot phone, nothing. When I turn off Uni, and turn it on again, it ask me for a password - I don't have any password.
I tried to slow down CPU, I tried to minimize file system cach... still don't know, where's the problem. Now, I think, the amout of messages mayby the problem. So, I deleted half of them and wait, what happened.
Does anyone have similar experience?
I've realised that the problem is caused by outlook (mean sms|emails messanger). The program is named tmail.exe. When I shut this program by taskmanager, the screen get normal and other function too. Even phone (lastly i forgot to write, when I get this bug, and try to open phone, i get error message (this program does not cooperate)).
I found, that this ROM - Tomal (Ranju) 7.7 is made from Wizard ROM - maybe this is the prob.
Does someone know what's happening? And how to get it normal. I think (but have not prove it yet), that after flash it is normal. And couple of days after, all is getting worse. Only what I've installed after flash was SPB pocket plus and Tom Tom 6. No other programs.
i had the same problem in one of the earlier roms i tried....
It can be quite frustrating for sure! Try other roms and see what works, I couldnt find what the problem was and i just moved on to another rom!
San
I tried also TOMAL 8.2 rom. And the problem doesn't dissappear.
Maybe it's collision between SPB pocket plus and WK task manager. So I turn off Wk task manager (which is preinstalled with TML rom) and see what happend.
So... noone has suggestions?
i have seen this in every rom i used. somewhere here somebody even posted photos of his uni while this happened. probably reason for this is a some low-level os bug which lead to this thing, maybe overflow of some cache because for me this happened only when i was typing a lot, no matter which program i used, the result was the same. the only solution i found is to soft-reset your device every hour even if everything seems to be ok at that moment.
I recently just got a Samsung Jack i616 and it had Windows Mobile 6.0 on it. I upgraded it with the official 6.1 upgrade from Rogers, and everything upgraded fine. But when I call someone, or someone calls me I can't hear them and they can't hear me. I know the phone worked before the upgrade, but now I'm not sure as to why it's doing this. I've tried restarting the phone, but nothing has worked. I haven't found anything on Google, so I thought I'd post it in the forum that I know has come up with so many miracles that made my HTC Touch Elf so enjoyable.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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Fixed the problem by dialing *2767*3855#
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same problem
Hi
I am having the same problem. have you resolved the problem. I would like to see your solution as this is driving me up a wall.
Fibrolan
P.S. I am on the fido network
I have experienced this same issue. I bought a new i616 on the Fido network, upgraded to wm6.1, made a test phone call, and then removed the sim.
While the sim was removed I setup all the software I use (took about a week) and played around with the phone (GPS, etc) to be sure I understood it's capabilities. And then I put the sim card back in - exactly the same issue you have had - it makes and receives calls but there is no sound on any end.
I fixed this by doing a hard reset (with format) - immediately after the format, I tried a test call again and it worked (sound on both ends). I then proceeded to setup the phone again (this time with the sim card still in it) and at the end of installing all the software, the phone still worked.
I have no idea why it stopped working in the first place.
The code you mention does a EEPROM reset which appears to be a carrier unlock on some phones - is your phone now carrier unlocked?
On a side note, the software/hardware on this i616 appears to be a complete train wreck - the GPS sometimes works, sometimes doesnt, sometimes the phone does not allow sound when making phone calls, the bluetooth doesnt connect to some of my devices that have never had any connection issues in the past, etc. These are pretty fundamental issues. I have had a couple of HTC WM phones for the past several years and I have never experienced anything like this with them - perhaps the Jack will grow on me but just setting it up has been a pretty poor experience.
Well, it happened again - no sound on either end during a phone call. I havent done anything since the last rebuild - eventually the sound stopped working.
A full reset with format fixes the problem but I think I have reached the limit - I am not going to rebuild it again because I have no idea when the phone stops working - I do not know what to do differently.
I am going to return this phone for something else - this phone has been remarkably bad (especially for a phone which gets great reviews).
Any ideas what is going on?
same issue
So far the only way to resolve this is the format... rogers says the phone is defective but considering the issue is more than just me I expect a replacement jack is not a guarantee that this issue will go away...
Hi,
I think I have found the culprit that is causing the problems. whe you do an unlock for application, the problem will start happening. not installing the unlock application the phone will work fine.
the only real benefit for the unlock application is getting the gps to work on com4. most applications will work without running unlock.
if anyone has way around this I am listening.
Fibrolan
fibrolan said:
Hi,
I think I have found the culprit that is causing the problems. whe you do an unlock for application, the problem will start happening. not installing the unlock application the phone will work fine.
the only real benefit for the unlock application is getting the gps to work on com4. most applications will work without running unlock.
if anyone has way around this I am listening.
Fibrolan
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What unlock application are you talking about? Since I fixed the problem myself, I've only had the problem once, which was probably from trying to install a bunch of applications to my phone(which I fixed just by restarting the phone).
The * code that I posted was from the BlackJack II Rogers 6.1 Instructions
I believe he is talking about the application unlock. There are two things I put on my phone that require it - the GPSID thing (connect the GPS to a COM port), and WM5torage (phone looks like a USB drive).
I will format, and will not apply the unlock, and see what happens.
Thanks.
So I've been running into this problem more and more often now. It's seemingly random as to what triggers it. I've tried pulling the battery..turning it on and off..nothing seems to work. I don't really want to do a full format because I don't want to lose all my stuff on there.
I've also found out even with a bluetooth headset, I can't hear anything..I also can't hear anything if I plug in the headset that comes with the phone.
Hopefully we can find out a solution as to why it does this.
Ah so I am not alone.
My fido jack on 6.1 that is also application unlocked (Some of my apps do require this to be done, one way or another..) is doing the same thing. Sometimes I just have to reboot a few times in a row and it comes back, but as of this morhning I've done it 3-4 times and still no sound.
I have given up. I have decided not to app unlock the phone - it is the only way to guarantee the phone still functions as a phone and I have tried many, many things to get it to work. This definitely limits the capabilities of this phone.
This phone is a disaster - the GPS does not connect through a com port like almost every other GPS device on the market, not all of my bluetooth devices work with the phone, and if you app unlock it, it stops working as a phone.
I like the scroll wheel though.
any progress on this?
i have same issue:
-i616 (fido/roger jack)
-want to get GPS working
-but app unlocker will break sound (no sound during calls) on WM6.1
i think the unlockers are only for i617 blackjack2, but not for the canadian version...
any ideas???
I am still trying to figure out the root cause of this problem. Yesterday it happened again to me so I pulled out the battery, removed the sim card, and then reinstalled everything and it worked - no hard reset required. It hasnt happened since so I havent tried the sim card removal again, so it could just be a fluke.
But, if it does turn out to be sim card related, is it possible we are using older version sim cards? The phone came with a new one but I just stuck to using my older one. What abaout everyone else - new or old sim card?
Thanks.
I also have the samsung jack (fido) i616 and also cannot hear the calls on both ends on occasions...even prior to app unlocking so it may not be the app unlock that is causing the issue.
I would turn off and on the phone and it would work again.
Is there a permanent solution to resolve this?
Thanks in advance
Samsung Jack i616 - Can't Hear Calls - Callers can't hear me
I was scanning the xda-developer site as I have both a TytN II and a BJII and thought do I bother telling my story or not - I figured if I can save someone else the hassle, the Major headaches, the time and the Expense it is worth it. So hear goes, get a coffee and put your feet up as this is a long story. If you just wanna know the outcome and solution skip to the end..otherwise just settling in for the story.
Like many of you I bought an BJII from a well known Chinese Mall(PM) and at the same time got it unlocked. I got the phone home and immediately upgraded it to the Fido WM6.1 official rom as I had been using 6.1 on my Tytn II forever without any major headaches. This was my first mistake. (actually my 2nd the first was buying the dam phone in the first place). Right after the upgrade, after making a call, the caller could not hear me and I could not hear them. Only a Hard reset(HR) fixed the problem. After the reset, I then proceed to install some smartphone apps, (sda application unlock, MoDaco smartphoneGpsActivator, MS smartphone GPSID, Garmin Mobile XT etc) after installing my seventh app I decided to make another test call. I encountered the same problem, so I set about uninstalling one app at a time to see which one was the culprit. This did not work and only a HR would fix the problem. This nonsense installing, hard reseting went on for about a week.
Frustrated I took the BJII back to PM, but the dude did not want to give me my money back - he claimed because I had upgraded to 6.1 any software upgrades regardless of whether it was an official rom or not was not covered under warranty. At this point I was not sure whether I was facing a software issue or a hardware issue. Anyway, I took the phone home, and this nonsense with the phone and calls went on for weeks. The last straw for me was being in the mall with my wife and she's calling me and I did not hear the phone ring. Was she mad or what? So to prove I was not dodging her and eying up the babes I got her to call me while I had the phone in my hand and sure enough the phone was ringing, but there was no sound. We did this 4 times- I switched the phone on & off each time - so another HR - problem goes away.
I am Hugely frustrated by this point , however, I set about reinstalling my apps - as a side note one of the apps that I wanted to install was SPB backup 2 - BJII didn't like it so I could not use it hence having to reinstall each app everytime 1 by 1 after a HR. Anyway, this demon possessed phone would at least 3 times a week need to be HR. I was so frustrated that I decided to try the At&t rom,(Mistake #2) it crashed in the middle of the upgrade and bricked the phone. It would not turn on period. Now before you start, I am not a newbie, I have been messing around with windows smartphones and pocketpc for years - in fact my first pocketpc was a compact and it was grey scale, my first ever pda was a Psion, so I know how to flash phones, and cook my own roms.
Anyway, I took it back to PM and the dude wanted to charge me $150 bucks to fix it. I walked out the shop and tried another vendor he said that he would reflash it for $50. He had the BJII for 3 days and in the end could not fix it.
I took the BJII back to the original guy, I tell you I am a pacifist but I am ready to kill at this point and we almost get into a fight as I was wholly convinced at this point that it was a hardware issue. He refused to send it back to Samsung as he reckoned they would charge me an arm and a leg to fix it as they would know straight away that this was a software flash that went wrong. In the end he said that he could fix it for $80 bucks- given that I wanted this phone and I wanted it working(it is great for messaging) I said fine. Yes he did get it working, but had to install a new logic board(motherboard). Thankfully he also installed WM6.0. I decided to leave well alone this time and just install my apps. I have had the phone back for 2 weeks now and have been using it everyday and have had none of those call or sound issues.
I suspect that there is a serious problem with the 6.1 upgrade and it has nothing to do with application unlocking the phone or any other 3rd party software. No presenting any keys in any combination is going to magically fixed this call issue - so please don't be fooled. My advice if you want it, is to Not upgrade to 6.1 at all. WM 6.1 offers some nice features, but not enough to go through this amount of headache, frustration and money.
Anyway peeps Happy New Year.
And avoid WM6.1.
Smartb
Smartb - I liked the story despite the fact that I cried more than I laughed. Seriously, I couldn't agree more with you. Indeed this 6.1 upgrade is the cause of our pain. I've spent hours doing the same thing you have less the ROM installs.. Mine came with the Rogers 6.1 ROM installed.
I'm at a loss for what to do. My latest venture is to compare registry settings with a HR image and after installing a software that breaks the phone. The software I tested with that always broke the phone was SPB Wireless Monitor..
I could ALMOST live with the issue if SPB Backup worked. But of course, it breaks the phone too!
So far, I've successfully gotten these softwares installed without the phone breaking:
- MS GPSID
- TCPMP + FLV Plugin
- Activesync with Exchange
- Garmin Mobile XT
- Facade 1.4.0
- CHome Configurator
These break the phone:
- SPB Backup
- SPB Wireless Monitor
- SDA Unlock
Any ideas how I could downgrade to WM 6.0? My phone came pre-installed with WM6.1
Dave, I don't think you can because there is no 6.0 rom floating about out there believe me I tried. I spent hours looking for one and couldn't find any. There were other roms for the 607, but I wouldn't risk using those. Sorry Mate.
Smartb.
Rogers is sending me the 6th refurbished Samsung Jack
I am having the same audio problem described here. Hard reset, which is every "tech support agent's" answer to everything, is NOT NECESSARY.
I have popped the battery out and stuck it back in and this has worked, other times it has not.
I have turned the phone off and on again and this has worked, other times it has not.
Rogers is sending me the 6TH REPLACEMENT Refurbished phone I have received, I may ask them to start sending 2 at a time, just to be sure.
They won't allow a hardware switch, they will only replace the phone with the same phone. They will try to get me to take a hardware upgrade though for like $200.00 and make me agree to 3 more years.
I am only hoping that the next refurbished one I receive will have this 6.1 bug fixed.
Here's my take on this...
Had this problem from pretty much day 1 with the i616 from Fido, it would occur randomly and intermittently (I could go 3 weeks without experiencing it). But about 2-3 weeks ago, it seemed to be stuck like this, switched to my nokia phone, called fido and they sent a replacement. In the meatime looked for something to backup the current phone to transfer everything to the replacement. That ended up being sprite backup.
Got new phone, made some calls it worked fine. Backed up old phone with sprite and restored to new phone. New phone now has same problem. Start uninstalling, no joy, eventually wipe clean, try restoring again, same problem, wipe clean, install a few of my apps, works fine for a few days, then same problem. Uninstall all 3rd party apps except SK Tools Standard, audio works again.
Wipe device install only a few apps, working fine, this morning I install sprite backup and audio goes away, uninstall sprite audio comes back...
Next send message to sprite support as follows, we'll see what they have to say, next step would be to backup, then wipe and only install sprite and see if problem reoccurs or whether it's an interaction with one of the apps below.
Samung Jack SGH-i616 (aka BlackJack II) running windows mobile standard 6.1, call audio stops after installing sprite 6.5.4.8. This consistently happens when installed and problem goes away once uninstalled.
It's a manifestation of this problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439620
The following other software is installed on the device.
Webis Flexmail 4.1 beta (bulld 3317)
Webis Pocket Informant 8.52 beta (build 2339)
(note problem occurs with non beta versions of both apps)
Sk Tools Standard 3.3.3.1
Synthesis SyncML Pro 3.0.2.22
Total Commandder/CE 2.51
The rest are the standard apps that ship with the device in rom.
Unicornasaurus said:
I recently just got a Samsung Jack i616 and it had Windows Mobile 6.0 on it. I upgraded it with the official 6.1 upgrade from Rogers, and everything upgraded fine. But when I call someone, or someone calls me I can't hear them and they can't hear me. I know the phone worked before the upgrade, but now I'm not sure as to why it's doing this. I've tried restarting the phone, but nothing has worked. I haven't found anything on Google, so I thought I'd post it in the forum that I know has come up with so many miracles that made my HTC Touch Elf so enjoyable.
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
**Update**
Fixed the problem by dialing *2767*3855#
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I didn't use my brain before typing this code. This code effectively hard reset my phone!!! no warnings or anything.
Yesterday, my Polaris with original HTC WM 6.1 set back itself to the delivery state. When I where at work, I wondered, because the battery was suddenly empty. I have charged it on Sunday.
After I have begun to recharge it for a short time, I switched it on. The Polaris told me to calibrate the touchscreen. After it, It started with the assistant for first steps of WM. I canceled it and then I where on the Home Screen. The HTC Home and the Plugin for G-Alarm where lost. When I tried to start a program I have installed some time before, it hadn’t worked. All programs I had installed for my self, seemed to be lost. When I tried to start them, there comes the failure like comes when I’ll install them (the program is from an unknown developer…; I don’t know the text in English exactly, because it is in German on my Polaris) All the SMS where lost and the Plugins on the Program Tab of the HTC Home and the Phone numbers in the Cube where also lost.
All seemed that the Polaris is in delivery state, but the installed programs where still in the list of programs in settings of WM.
The last way for me was to install the ROM now onto the phone. After I’ve installed it new today, WM 6.1 again, all worked very well and I’ve installed some programs like finger menu etc. new. After one restart while an installation, the problem comes again. The whole Phone seemed to be in delivery state. The only change is now, that the phone-program of the Polaris in WM doesn’t work anymore. When I click onto the telephone receiver- picture in WM, nothing happened. Earlier the screen comes, where I have to input my pin-number.
Have anybody an idea, why the mistake happened and what I can do to repair it? Is it a soft- or hardware mistake? I have no Idea what I could do to repair it. The last way I could do is to send it to the dealer where I’ve bought it, because I’m still in guarantee-time, or has anybody an idea, how I can repair the software without send it back for repair?
Regards from Germany,
Robert
Robert,
Get that phone right back to the SUpplier, as its clearly hardware issue. You have tried to re-flash with original 6.1 which was succesful.
btw just curious, did you try using the phone standard without adding new apps for a few days just to see if it was stable or not?
Might be a good idea to do this, just so u can be sure its not a software clash.
Thanks for your fast answer, timmymarsh!!
I've only tried the phone a few minutes without any apps. Then I installed only 4 or 5 small apps, which I've used before I had the first problems on monday over a long time.
This day I watched onto the invoice of the phone. I bought it last year at the end of April. So I will send it as fast as possible to the supplier, that I won't loose my garantee.
After your post I'm pretty sure, that it should be a hardware issue.
If I had a longer rest of the garantee time, I would try it without apps some days, but in this case I'll play safe...
have just had exactly the same problem only have been using the udk syrius r7 rom for last few months, turned phone off while in work and on turning back on losing all contacts etc. have tried reflashing with r8 beta & had same problem have now flashed 3lit3-VI rom and seems 2 b ok now.
MacGaiser said:
Yesterday, my Polaris with original HTC WM 6.1 set back itself to the delivery state. When I where at work, I wondered, because the battery was suddenly empty. I have charged it on Sunday.
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the indications given looks like due to the battery was drained, so you will lose all applications been installed as well as data and information on the ram (sdcard will survive). in worst cases, your device will stay on bootloader mode, will not loading the rom, though hard reset when battery full can resolve the situation.
Unless you can find hardware related reason to draining your battery higher than normal, no i dont think it is hardware related.
Hi Guys,
I'm wondering if anyone else has experieneced these issues, i'm going to do a clean wipe which will likely sort it, but:
A few days ago I noticed when I try to open a game, the surface would think for a few seconds, then crash to the desktop (not the metro menu but stright to teh desktop). Now it seems to do it almost everytime I open any app. Also despite me having internet connection (confirmed by the wireless setting menu) neither internet explorer or desktop IE will open, and no app will acknowledge the internet connection.
These probelms are fixed by a restart but only for an hour or so.
I'm quite disappointed because the surface has been great for a good month but now i'm just getting more an more frustrated - it's meant to save time, not waste it!
Anyway, anyone else seen these issues?
Mine has not shown anything like that yet fortunately.
I understand your frustration when this marvelous piece of productivity and entertainment work starts to fail on you.
Robin
feygor said:
Hi Guys,
I'm wondering if anyone else has experieneced these issues, i'm going to do a clean wipe which will likely sort it, but:
A few days ago I noticed when I try to open a game, the surface would think for a few seconds, then crash to the desktop (not the metro menu but stright to teh desktop). Now it seems to do it almost everytime I open any app. Also despite me having internet connection (confirmed by the wireless setting menu) neither internet explorer or desktop IE will open, and no app will acknowledge the internet connection.
These probelms are fixed by a restart but only for an hour or so.
I'm quite disappointed because the surface has been great for a good month but now i'm just getting more an more frustrated - it's meant to save time, not waste it!
maybe you should send it for replacement...
Anyway, anyone else seen these issues?
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no such issue with my Surface RT, enjoying every moment with it, just bought an xbox Kinetic and the smart glass works like a charm...
my son is playing all the games he can and he tend to leave them running in the background, even with that its not slow or sluggish...
Sounds like you have a recently installed app that has made your Surface unstable. Can you trace back when it started and look at your installed apps. I hvae experienced the crashing to start menu when trying to open a program (ie 10) , but I did a restart and that solved it, not to come back.
guitar1969 said:
Sounds like you have a recently installed app that has made your Surface unstable. Can you trace back when it started and look at your installed apps. I hvae experienced the crashing to start menu when trying to open a program (ie 10) , but I did a restart and that solved it, not to come back.
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I would definitely try this. I had installed the Bento app and noticed some weirdness myself, exceptions, system rebooting outta blue. Uninstalled it and things were back to normal.
Good Luck!
I did a quick format in the end, it seemed to take longer than I expected but all is back to normal.
Surely an odd bad app should affect anything, all apps are ran in their own sandbox aren't they? And I thought Microsoft vetted for apps like that. I might start installing my old apps to see what caused it...
I do like the fact that all the app data is stored and accessible, it made backing up game saves as simple as copy and paste.