Just thought someone might find these useful. Might this help with the bricks? Dl the pdf's from here...
http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html
Nice Post!
I really like something from page 90...
"(1) Try to cold boot the unit then tries again" Almost like they expect failure...
thank you might need this for the future
Anyone have these? The original link is down.
looks like HTC asked that they be pulled
damn they found it really fast!
There is still 1 copy of the service manual on this site...ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh lol
can someone upload it somewhere else?
It can always be useful
ngtfr said:
can someone upload it somewhere else?
It can always be useful
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I agree.. the link no longer has the manuals..
http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/
u rock
antiregister11 said:
http://www.mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/
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That was much needed... time to open it up for inspection.
PS: If anything has got screws... it needs to be opened
Oh wow. How did I miss this when it was first posted. This will surely be helpful when changing out that glass whenever I get around to ordering it. I found it dirt cheep, but was a little hesitant for fear of doing more damage than good. This is exactly what I needed. Thanks.
Saved (and downloaded) all the manuals on there for future reference. =]
andonnguyen said:
Saved (and downloaded) all the manuals on there for future reference. =]
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yes very informative changing radio for hero is problay easy then thought just swap the board with tmobile 3g radio and your set oh yeah code to probaly
Hmm.
I've opened my HTC Dream, but I haven't been able to get my hands on a Magic..
The ram on some Magics is 288M, yes? And 192M on the Dream? This is a *huge* difference, as it takes what... 70M or so, just to load the OS, the home screen, an applet or two, and of course the 20M for the graphics chip...
So, that's a big upgrade.
Thing is, I've heard many a time, that the Magic is basically just a Dream. If so, wouldn't HTC have provided pinouts for hooking up a hardware keyboard? After all, there might have been plans to make a Dream V2.
Has anyone looked at the hardware inside, to see if it is possible to take the Magic circuit board, and slap it into a Dream? To see if the pinouts are on the board?
I'd *happily* buy a Magic, swap the hardware, and use the old Dream board + Magic case for a backup phone...
So, anyone looked?
BRad Barnett said:
Hmm.
I've opened my HTC Dream, but I haven't been able to get my hands on a Magic..
The ram on some Magics is 288M, yes? And 192M on the Dream? This is a *huge* difference, as it takes what... 70M or so, just to load the OS, the home screen, an applet or two, and of course the 20M for the graphics chip...
So, that's a big upgrade.
Thing is, I've heard many a time, that the Magic is basically just a Dream. If so, wouldn't HTC have provided pinouts for hooking up a hardware keyboard? After all, there might have been plans to make a Dream V2.
Has anyone looked at the hardware inside, to see if it is possible to take the Magic circuit board, and slap it into a Dream? To see if the pinouts are on the board?
I'd *happily* buy a Magic, swap the hardware, and use the old Dream board + Magic case for a backup phone...
So, anyone looked?
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http://tinyurl.com/yj4f5gn should help
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http://tinyurl.com/yj4f5gn should help
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Ah. Typical schmucky response.
Please point to where, in the service manuals, there are very-high-res images of the motherboard and daughterboards, so they can be examined in detail.
Smarten up, ok?
BRad Barnett said:
Ah. Typical schmucky response.
Please point to where, in the service manuals, there are very-high-res images of the motherboard and daughterboards, so they can be examined in detail.
Smarten up, ok?
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Tip if you want some help: you might want to be nice to people who try so that others might be more motivated to. Smarten up on social skills ok?
mattv888 said:
Tip if you want some help: you might want to be nice to people who try so that others might be more motivated to. Smarten up on social skills ok?
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+ 10
Haha.
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No, -10.
There was no intent to help, what so ever.
An intent to help would be:
"Yes! I have some high res pics here!"
or
"I have a dead Magic, I'll open it and see"
A smartass "go search google for service manuals, that have nothing to do with the question.. and can't help at all" isn't an attempt to help.
BRad Barnett said:
Ah. Typical schmucky response.
Please point to where, in the service manuals, there are very-high-res images of the motherboard and daughterboards, so they can be examined in detail.
Smarten up, ok?
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you don't need 'very-high-res images' to see that what you propose is not possible
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you don't need 'very-high-res images' to see that what you propose is not possible
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Really? You can verify that there are no pads for a keyboard header, on the circuit board, via those photos? Because, I couldn't tell...
BRad Barnett said:
Really? You can verify that there are no pads for a keyboard header, on the circuit board, via those photos? Because, I couldn't tell...
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you want to fit the boards from a magic into a dream case
look at the service manual, you will quickly see that they will not fit
for one the camera is in the wrong place
unless of course your going to fabricate a new case for your 'magic with a dream keyboard'
but carry on dreaming your magic
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you want to fit the boards from a magic into a dream case
look at the service manual, you will quickly see that they will not fit
for one the camera is in the wrong place
unless of course your going to fabricate a new case for your 'magic with a dream keyboard'
but carry on dreaming your magic
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I've already told him this in an identical thread in the general section. This is the third copy of the same thread.
Don't feed the troll.
goldenarmZ said:
I've already told him this in an identical thread in the general section. This is the third copy of the same thread.
Don't feed the troll.
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lol
I'll devnull the tard from now on
Firerat said:
you want to fit the boards from a magic into a dream case
look at the service manual, you will quickly see that they will not fit
for one the camera is in the wrong place
unless of course your going to fabricate a new case for your 'magic with a dream keyboard'
but carry on dreaming your magic
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Right.
So, since you did not state this before, I believe I am correct in my prior assumption that you were simply being a smartass. That is, you read my prior thread, saw the other comments that stated what you've just stated, and decided to carry the same marlarky here.
Clearly I've already stated, especially in that other thread, that I am looking for that pad/header first.
So, how are you helping? Comparatively, how are you being destructive?
Does it harm you, or others of this board, to allow myself -- and others that would like to see the same, to get together and look for a keyboard header/pads on the Magic? Certainly not!
For example, as for the camera, it's only a hole in the back of the case. A dremel will make a nice, neat one. As for the rest of the boards? Well, that's something to see. Clearly I've heard statements about the boards... repeating them is not necessary.
Heck, I haven't even stated that I'd have to use the case from the Dream OR Magic to make this work, have I? There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Of course, even though you apparently don't want to look for the pads, or investigate the hardware directly, the fact that I'm interesting in trying seems to erk you. It also seems to erk goldenarmz for some reason. Your thoughts of "Why is he even bothering with this?!" translate into "I should post as many detracting statements as possibile in these threads, to prevent it!"
After all, if you don't want to do it, and if you don't think it's possible... why, you must come to my thread, and do everything possible to prevent others from trying!
So, please.. go ahead goldenarmz and Firerat. Continue to post "you can't do that!" messages all over my threads. That's just great! I'm sure everyone will be very thankful, that you've both done everything you can to prevent my horrible abomination!
THANK GOD EVERYONE! WE STOPPED HIM FROM CREATING FRANKENSTEIN! OUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE!!!
Come on guys.. give it a rest, ok? Let people interesting in investigating directly, do so.
BRad Barnett said:
Right.
So, since you did not state this before, I believe I am correct in my prior assumption that you were simply being a smartass. That is, you read my prior thread, saw the other comments that stated what you've just stated, and decided to carry the same marlarky here.
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nope, didn't now about the other threads
a definition of an idiot:
someone who repeats the same action expecting different results
bye bye BRad
BRad Barnett >> /dev/null
BRad Barnett said:
Right.
So, since you did not state this before, I believe I am correct in my prior assumption that you were simply being a smartass. That is, you read my prior thread, saw the other comments that stated what you've just stated, and decided to carry the same marlarky here.
Clearly I've already stated, especially in that other thread, that I am looking for that pad/header first.
So, how are you helping? Comparatively, how are you being destructive?
Does it harm you, or others of this board, to allow myself -- and others that would like to see the same, to get together and look for a keyboard header/pads on the Magic? Certainly not!
For example, as for the camera, it's only a hole in the back of the case. A dremel will make a nice, neat one. As for the rest of the boards? Well, that's something to see. Clearly I've heard statements about the boards... repeating them is not necessary.
Heck, I haven't even stated that I'd have to use the case from the Dream OR Magic to make this work, have I? There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Of course, even though you apparently don't want to look for the pads, or investigate the hardware directly, the fact that I'm interesting in trying seems to erk you. It also seems to erk goldenarmz for some reason. Your thoughts of "Why is he even bothering with this?!" translate into "I should post as many detracting statements as possibile in these threads, to prevent it!"
After all, if you don't want to do it, and if you don't think it's possible... why, you must come to my thread, and do everything possible to prevent others from trying!
So, please.. go ahead goldenarmz and Firerat. Continue to post "you can't do that!" messages all over my threads. That's just great! I'm sure everyone will be very thankful, that you've both done everything you can to prevent my horrible abomination!
THANK GOD EVERYONE! WE STOPPED HIM FROM CREATING FRANKENSTEIN! OUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE!!!
Come on guys.. give it a rest, ok? Let people interesting in investigating directly, do so.
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an idea
buy a magic and just do it.
then show off what you did
be sure to take step by step pictures and maybe shoot a video to use in your tutorial
Riiiight.
Regardless of whether or not you knew of the other thread, your "go look at the manuals via how-to-search-Google smartass page" was clearly not meant to be polite, by any means. It was meant to be a smartassed statement... and you received an answer in the same vein.
Also, your definition of an "idiot", is actually a misquote, I believe it was initially a _joke_ about sanity. Of course, such a statement in itself is "idiotic", unless you think learning by trial and error is only an idiots game.
Or, did you consider yourself an idiot, when you were learning to ride a bike... fell off, and got back on? Ha-ha, look at the idiot, trying to ride a bike again -- but expecting to stay on!
Please. Again, let's be serious.
Back to myself... what precisely have I 'tried again', except for trying to post a new thread, to clear out the blather from an old?
Firerat said:
an idea
buy a magic and just do it.
then show off what you did
be sure to take step by step pictures and maybe shoot a video to use in your tutorial
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Hey! I have a better idea!
How about I post a thread to a forum somewhere... and ask if anyone out there has a Magic they can look at? Maybe someone will even have a broken Magic they can look at.. so they won't sweat so much when they open it!
Wow, what a great idea! Then I can verify if there is a header/pads for a keyboard, before I buy one and perhaps waste my money!
That's such a great idea! Maybe I should try it!!
HOLY SARCASM BATMAN!
As for the pics and such, you can be damned sure I'd document any hack of the sort, if I proceed.....
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what precisely have I 'tried again', except for trying to post a new thread, to clear out the blather from an old?
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You've asked the same question 3 times despite being told, and being shown proof that it will never, ever work.
By insisting that you want to find these "pads" where a keyboard was never intended to be fitted.. You're trying to climb the garden fence when directly behind it is a 50 foot wall of impenetrable steel - namely, the fact that your creation won't fit in the sodding case.
BRad Barnett said:
Right.
Of course, even though you apparently don't want to look for the pads, or investigate the hardware directly...
Why don't you do the work yourself? Get yourself a couple of phones on fleabay and open 'em up!!!
STOP BEING LAZY!!!
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Or, did you consider yourself an idiot, when you were learning to ride a bike... fell off, and got back on? Ha-ha, look at the idiot, trying to ride a bike again -- but expecting to stay on!
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if I truly repeated the same action then I would continue to fall off, no each time I got back on I did something different, hoping that it was enough to not fall off.
your not really all that smart are you
I like the idea, I don't believe it is practical
you don't need help with this, just buy a magic and try it
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You've asked the same question 3 times despite being told, and being shown proof that it will never, ever work.
By insisting that you want to find these "pads" where a keyboard was never intended to be fitted.. You're trying to climb the garden fence when directly behind it is a 50 foot wall of impenetrable steel - namely, the fact that your creation won't fit in the sodding case.
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Typical of you.
I've already stated that I don't have to use the same case. I've already stated that I'm also willing to modify my case.
Again, though.. you want to run up and down, screaming IT WON'T WORK! STOP IT!! STOP!! IT WON'T WORK, OH PLEASE, PLEASE, STOP TRYING!
I BEG YOU! STOP TRYING!
EVERYONE ELSE!! PLEASE!! IF YOU HAVE A MAGIC, PLEASE DON'T LOOK FOR PADS!
Are you actually serious?
Hey all,
Does anyone have a dead HTC Magic out there?
I think HTC designed the Magic, with the intention of using the same boards for a Dream V2. That is, I think that the traces are already on the Magic, and that the IO pads are already there, waiting to be utilized by the Dream's keyboard.
Can anyone open their Magic, to see? Perhaps someone with a dead Magic?
Also, if anyone knows of some very high res pics, of all the boards in the Magic, that might work too..
Even if that was correct, and that the magic had ports which are to be used by a physical keyboard, what would you use them for?
You cant just strap on a keyboard and tape it in place
eyegor said:
Even if that was correct, and that the magic had ports which are to be used by a physical keyboard, what would you use them for?
You cant just strap on a keyboard and tape it in place
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Sure you could.. why not?
Regardless, I was thinking of something more refined.
Still, that's step 2. Let's concentrate on step 1...
You have a dead Magic you can open? Do you know of any pics?
BRad Barnett said:
Sure you could.. why not?
Regardless, I was thinking of something more refined.
Still, that's step 2. Let's concentrate on step 1...
You have a dead Magic you can open? Do you know of any pics?
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Even if i had one i wouldnt be so adventurous to open it
Anyway, if you believe that you can make it work with a physical keyboard im really looking forward to the development of this thread
I'll try to find some pictures and help you out that way...
eyegor said:
Even if i had one i wouldnt be so adventurous to open it
Anyway, if you believe that you can make it work with a physical keyboard im really looking forward to the development of this thread
I'll try to find some pictures and help you out that way...
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I appreciate it, but unless you have a private stash (or know of one), it might be hard. I Googled around a bit, looking for high res pics of the Magic circuit boards, but didn't find anything.
I did find a website, for $2000, that will sell you an entire disassembly process of the Magic, plus a listing of all components, with high res-pics, etc.
A little out of my price range though.
BRad Barnett said:
I appreciate it, but unless you have a private stash (or know of one), it might be hard. I Googled around a bit, looking for high res pics of the Magic circuit boards, but didn't find anything.
I did find a website, for $2000, that will sell you an entire disassembly process of the Magic, plus a listing of all components, with high res-pics, etc.
A little out of my price range though.
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I've seen a link to the service manual of the Magic which perhaps has the pictures you are looking for somewhere around the forum...
eyegor said:
I've seen a link to the service manual of the Magic which perhaps has the pictures you are looking for somewhere around the forum...
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Naw, the pictures are too small. We need _high_ res pics, because we'll be looking for small pads, plus we'll need to see where the traces go, and what chip the traces connect to... and the writing on the chip, to know what it is!
We'll need some good, high res pics of someone disassembling the beast, that didn't reduce them down for a PDF or some such...
I'm hoping someone has already looked inside the dream, just to examine it when they first got it, but I haven't found any good pics from that..
I've found it...http://phandroid.com/htc-magic-manual.pdf
But as you said the damn pictures are too blurry...
The good news is that there surely is someone around with a bricked magic...
eyegor said:
I've found it...http://phandroid.com/htc-magic-manual.pdf
But as you said the damn pictures are too blurry...
The good news is that there surely is someone around with a bricked magic...
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Yes!
COME OUT OF HIDING, MR BRICKED MAGIC MAN! COME BACK FROM MARS!
Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact it's cold as hell
And there's no one there to raise them if you did
And all this science I don't understand
It's just my job five days a week
A magic man, a magic man
And I think it's gonna be a long long time...
just sharing the disassembly guide i found.
very nice to see the innards of our tablet..
here's the link in Scribd.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/85067765/GT-P6200-Dis-Assembly-Guide
PDF file.
http://hotfile.com/dl/144396468/f3c8aa6/GT-P6200_Disassembly_Guide.rar.html
Nice to see inside our tablet. Realy good tablet, but there is still no update from Samsung
required tools:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...langId=-1&keyword=sledge+hammer&storeId=10051
does anyone know if it is sealed or glued, etc.?
I tried this with my dell streak 7 tablet, and the seal wasnt heated enough to loosen up, and some of the outside cracked.
needless to say I wont be opening my tab plus regardless.
but thanks for the info.
garyd9 said:
required tools:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...langId=-1&keyword=sledge+hammer&storeId=10051
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I wonder if that tool could help us get ICS any more quickly. Are there any unstable members good at making convincing threats?
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Are there any unstable members good at making convincing threats?
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"unstable." That's an interesting choice of word. I'd say that when I try to dance, I'm pretty unstable. I'm also unstable when trying to balance on a tightwire. Does that count?
Hehe. I left out the mentally-part. I thought that was obvious. Just joking around... trying to imagine ways that tool could be put to use.
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Hehe. I left out the mentally-part. I thought that was obvious.
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Oh! Why didn't you say so? Obviously, most people on these forums are mentally parted! As well, we often part with our mentality.
Am I missing something mental here? Perhaps only part-way?
Well, in any case, I hope you didn't take my comment personally. I certainly didn't mean for it to come across that way. When I saw that image you linked, I giggled and immediately pictured a frustrated XDA member heading to Samsung with ICS-demands on their mind and a hammer in their hand.
Have a nice day, Gary.
So the glass that covers the rear camera broke.... any idea where to get a replacement
You tried Google?
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1ManWolfePack said:
You tried Google?
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No i figured id come in here and waste every1 times for something so easy
I just update my thread on same topic...not going to like what I found though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30783450#post30783450
so far this is all i found:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-GT-i9300-Original-Housing-Replacement/dp/B008CCOGU8/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt
Id really would rather not spend 50$ when I only need the little glass square
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/BoGuCMaPQliYwOAk.medium
looks liek you can jsut un screw the glass square
thetaman said:
I just update my thread on same topic...not going to like what I found though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30783450#post30783450
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you cant just remove the glass square and put it on ur orig back?
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No i figured id come in here and waste every1 times for something so easy
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Musta, cuz I took two minutes and found a replacement part for that... and even teardown instructions for the S3. (Not sure how good they were, I didn't read them, just saw them lol)
1 thread up ffs.
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you cant just remove the glass square and put it on ur orig back?
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Not that I can tell. The fix is very easy, unscrew 7-8 screws put on replacement. Screws back in the back and profit.
Problem...can't find the damn replacement part that works for VZW and Samsung won't send a replacement part.
Brian Gove said:
Musta, cuz I took two minutes and found a replacement part for that... and even teardown instructions for the S3. (Not sure how good they were, I didn't read them, just saw them lol)
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really? show me because there are none that fit the vzw one..
Imatoasta said:
1 thread up ffs.
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he just updated his post lol and sorry the search feature never works maybe i should have posted this in development section that way I would get 10 more posts just as helpful as yours ffs
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he just updated his post lol and sorry the search feature never works maybe i should have posted this in development section that way I would get 10 more posts just as helpful as yours ffs
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Do you wonder why you aren't getting a warm reception?
First there is this exact thread posted by someone else already going in this forum, at one point it was literally right on top of yours. Second is your attitude. Mistawolfe asked if you had googled it and you came back with a smart ass response...
Next time you're along for help lose the attitude if you really want someone to help you. Until then you can find your own part as far as I'm concerned.
I am glad I found this...I was going to order the international version as well because mine has a scratch on it.
Would really love a link as well..I have googled to no end. All I can find is the cemera replacement module itself.
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Lulz... thanks :banghead:
sent from my GS³
Brian Gove has the mythical vzw replacement or at least he says he does... hes just a troll
However I hope there will be one available soon... the glass is starting to fall out and i dont want random crap to get in there!
2 bad they deleted all my other post not just the one where i used vulgar language
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Brian Gove has the mythical vzw replacement or at least he says he does... hes just a troll
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Learn to use google and you can find the same sh*t I did. I didn't link it to you when I found it because your lack of respect to the people that were responding to your request for help.
Now are you done with your temper tantrum?
Brian Gove said:
Learn to use google and you can find the same sh*t I did. I didn't link it to you when I found it because your lack of respect to the people that were responding to your request for help.
Now are you done with your temper tantrum?
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We all know how to use Google. Some of us were looking for help or solutions. Obviously we didn't find them on Google or this site. That's the reason for this thread. Please provide useful help and information. Don't think that's a lot to ask.
Brian Gove said:
Learn to use google and you can find the same sh*t I did. I didn't link it to you when I found it because your lack of respect to the people that were responding to your request for help.
Now are you done with your temper tantrum?
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Its because there isnt one and he isnt willing to admit it