will we ever have usable custom gingerbread roms? if i understand we only have 2.2 roms because samsung leaked 2.2 source for the i9000. is it safe to say we'll only have 2.3 roms if something similar happens for the i9000?
i've already read in the dev forum developers saying the nexus s hardware is too different.
It's being worked on but I wouldn't hold my breath [PORT] Nexus S GB Port to Captivate (UPDATE: Wifi and 3G semi-working)
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It's being worked on but I wouldn't hold my breath [PORT] Nexus S GB Port to Captivate (UPDATE: Wifi and 3G semi-working)
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yes, i have put the gb port on my phone. but it's not really a usable build 24/7 and still being called a tech-demo by the developer.
i'm wondering if it's possible to produce a gb rom with the same quality as our eclair and froyo roms if samsung never releases any code for the i9000/captivate.
It shouldn't be impossible to use the Nexus S source and bits and pieces of the current Captivate and i9000 kernel sources and put them together for a mish-mash build - the problem is that development for the Galaxy S is significantly less than development for HTC devices.
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Well...we fight to see 2.2, hope 2.3 maybe in the next 5 years, 2.4 in the next life maybe.......
http://www.gsmarena.com/android_24_..._prototype_is_still_gingerbread-news-2202.php
Interesting...we are behind lol. Still getting some dev love though so if they can figure it out to get 2.3 I am not to worried about it coming from Samsung.
Saw this in the i9000 Gingerbread port thread too.
But notice the kernel version... it's identical to Froyo's...
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Saw this in the i9000 Gingerbread port thread too.
But notice the kernel version... it's identical to Froyo's...
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Wasn't Eclair the same way?
Is it possible to put Gingerbread 2.3 software on this phone? If not when will we be able to, etc?
right now, no. not stock 2.3 anyways. people have gotten CyanogenMod 7, which is based on 2.3, to work, but with no sound because it uses the kernel from the Desire HD, which is very similar to this phone. once HTC releases the source code for the kernel, then people can get to work making real custom ROMs for it.
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right now, no. not stock 2.3 anyways. people have gotten CyanogenMod 7, which is based on 2.3, to work, but with no sound because it uses the kernel from the Desire HD, which is very similar to this phone. once HTC releases the source code for the kernel, then people can get to work making real custom ROMs for it.
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Do you think a official update for 2.3 will be for this phone, since it's newer?
honestly, there is no way to tell. the captivate has yet to actually get 2.2, which is what the inspire ships with. i believe my g/f's stock aria is still on 2.1 as well. if i were you, i wouldn't depend on OTA updates, because there's absolutely no guarantee that there will be one. to be honest, i've never had a carrier branded Android phone, and my only other smartphones were iphones, which always get every update, so I'm not sure what it's like to have to wait for a system update.
Is there any ICS port currently in development for Samsung Galaxy S II AT&T Skyrocket? Is it flashable yet? What features work/ Don't work? I saw an add for an AT&T Skyrocket claiming to run an ICS port on ebay, and was wondering if there was a functional port, since thus far, there have been no leaks from samsung for the skyrocket, meaning camera and more features may not work for a long time. If there is a rom in existence, I would be very interested. Could I have a link to the development thread? Thank you!
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so subsequent answers to your questions revolve around NO, NOT OUT, NOTHING TO WORK ON YET
there is no ICS port yet so the ebay listing is LYING
link to development thread? dont you think if it existed, that it would be on the FRONT PAGE of the dev section? dont you think there would be 1000 people in there asking to flash it?
there is NOTHING of value for ICS yet for the skyrocket....
So I saw recently that the CyanogenMod team was having issues with ICS and their features and because of it older phones such as the Nexus one may not even get CM9, so do you think we'll get it at all then? The Inspire is a rebranded DHD, which is the brother to Nexus One. I searched the CM thread but couldn't find anything on this subject, I was thinking about buying a Galaxy Note (even though I'm not one for Samsung phones) if the Inspire will never get a proper version of ICS (no offense to all the AOSP builders out there).
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So I saw recently that the CyanogenMod team was having issues with ICS and their features and because of it older phones such as the Nexus one may not even get CM9, so do you think we'll get it at all then? The Inspire is a rebranded DHD, which is the brother to Nexus One. I searched the CM thread but couldn't find anything on this subject, I was thinking about buying a Galaxy Note (even though I'm not one for Samsung phones) if the Inspire will never get a proper version of ICS (no offense to all the AOSP builders out there).
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Don't rush, the Nexus One and the DHD/Inspire 4G are very different in terms of hardware, the Nexus has an older GPU, CPU hence the RAM management and instruction set are very different, even though they are clocked at the same speed (1ghz) For instance compare the Sensation against SGS2 or even the RAZR the difference in performance regardless the clock speed is way different.
Most likely the DHD/INSPIRE will get CM9 due to its superior HW.
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I agree completely. There is no reason that we shouldn't see a cm7 for the inspire.
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Its all about the drivers for the hardware and weather the hardware can run ICS. HTC has said the DHD will get ICS later this year. But I saw nothing about the Nexus One. Check on the HTC website. Once HTC releases the drivers then CM team can go to work.
Yes, it will get it. But Cyanogen is working on exynos powered phones right now
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Considering there's already an ICS Beta build out there (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962) with as good as everything working except HD video hardware acceleration and minor bugs, I'm pretty sure we'll get CM9. Maybe the CyanogenMod team will update the newer dual-core phones first, but I think we'll have support soon
They will get around to it. Until then, I have been using the IceColdSandwitch rom 1.5 test 5 as a daily driver. HD Video (Netflix) and the Camcorder functions do not work. Also, the camera (at higher resolutions) has a glitch but overall a great rom. Very fast!
Im also on IceColdSandwich, great for now. I will be switching to cm9 when it comes out though.
Guys WE all know the Rules with CM roms. Dont ask for an ETA. I am sure we will see it once the source for the DHD ICS is released.
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Hi guys Happy 4th of July!
Question is: I am liking the Galaxy S4 a lot and I don't have an upgrade available until Oct/2014. Is there any ROM for the S3 that is similar to the Galaxy S4? or does anyone knows of any specials anywhere where I can upgrade now instead of waiting so long?
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Remember you can only get so close to the s4 software, as the hardware is entirely different, the software is usually based on the hArdware.but there is the s4 voice,s4 launcher, there's a couple of roms similar to the s4 can't think of any rite now but it's very easily found in the forum.
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Remember you can only get so close to the s4 software, as the hardware is entirely different, the software is usually based on the hArdware.but there is the s4 voice,s4 launcher, there's a couple of roms similar to the s4 can't think of any rite now but it's very easily found in the forum.
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I think the major issue is the S4 is 4.2 based and our devices are still on 4.1. I remember when I was on my Incredible we got sense 3 and 3.5 ROMs once our gingerbread leak came out, so I'm guessing we'd need a 4.2 based touchwiz kernel for our device before we could get the S4's 4.2 based ROM ported to our device.
Even if we get 4.2 (it would be about 8-9 months from now) there's no guarantee it would work out that way. Many of our devs have already moved on to the S4 or other devices so they might not be interested in porting that for us. It may not even be possible - consistencies don't always apply in the technology world, even if we have a 4.2 kernel there might be some other reason why a port isn't possible.
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I think the major issue is the S4 is 4.2 based and our devices are still on 4.1. I remember when I was on my Incredible we got sense 3 and 3.5 ROMs once our gingerbread leak came out, so I'm guessing we'd need a 4.2 based touchwiz kernel for our device before we could get the S4's 4.2 based ROM ported to our device.
Even if we get 4.2 (it would be about 8-9 months from now) there's no guarantee it would work out that way. Many of our devs have already moved on to the S4 or other devices so they might not be interested in porting that for us. It may not even be possible - consistencies don't always apply in the technology world, even if we have a 4.2 kernel there might be some other reason why a port isn't possible.
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So what ROM would be the most similar to the one on the S4? I am running CleanRom 6.2 and I like it but is there any other option?
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I think the major issue is the S4 is 4.2 based and our devices are still on 4.1. I remember when I was on my Incredible we got sense 3 and 3.5 ROMs once our gingerbread leak came out, so I'm guessing we'd need a 4.2 based touchwiz kernel for our device before we could get the S4's 4.2 based ROM ported to our device.
Even if we get 4.2 (it would be about 8-9 months from now) there's no guarantee it would work out that way. Many of our devs have already moved on to the S4 or other devices so they might not be interested in porting that for us. It may not even be possible - consistencies don't always apply in the technology world, even if we have a 4.2 kernel there might be some other reason why a port isn't possible.
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It is not as simple as having 4.2 kernel plus you have to better your explanation as we have Google AOSP 4.2 just not touchwiz 4.2. It is more to do with the hardware as it is easier to port from phones with similar hardware then it is to port from a phone with different specs. The best alternative is to port the apps and make an app like windows 8 launcher and Xperia Z launcher. So there isn't a "might be " there is another reason and that is hardware inconsistencies.
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So what ROM would be the most similar to the one on the S4? I am running CleanRom 6.2 and I like it but is there any other option?
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Your best bet is to use a stock-ish MF1 based rom (cleanrom isn't up to date) and find + install a S4 apps package compatible with the S3. The S4 launcher and clock works fairly well on our phones. I don't think there are any roms that aim to mimic the S4 experience exclusively. They all have different theming elements with S4 apps here and there.
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It is not as simple as having 4.2 kernel plus you have to better your explanation as we have Google AOSP 4.2 just not touchwiz 4.2. It is more to do with the hardware as it is easier to port from phones with similar hardware then it is to port from a phone with different specs. The best alternative is to port the apps and make an app like windows 8 launcher and Xperia Z launcher. So there isn't a "might be " there is another reason and that is hardware inconsistencies.
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Sure, no problem.
The reason we're able to have a working 4.2 kernel for AOSP is because we're not reliant on Samsung's kernel source for that side of development. AOSP is completely open source as opposed to touchwiz which has proprietary framework that's closed source.
You mention hardware differences. I know things have changed drastically since GB, so perhaps the argument I'm about to make is invalid. On the Incredible we got roms from the Runnymede which had 100% completely different hardware. It had a chipset which was many generations ahead yet devs still managed to get Sense 3.5 roms running on a device which was not intended to run anything beyond Sense 1.0. It wasn't possible til we had a GB leak made for our phone (still sense 1.0). This is due to proprietary sense framework built in at the kernel level which the devs relied on for porting - they needed the updated 2.3 version of the sense bits. I know touchwiz isn't sense, so I could be making a bad comparison here, but saying "the hardware is too different" isn't a valid reason for porting to not be possible. It could be a very similar setup. I'm not familiar enough with touchwiz to be able to make that distinction though.
These Sense 3.5 roms were marred with several issues which ultimately made them impractical to use as a daily driver. This was mainly due to how outdated the incredible was and that it simply didn't have the resources to run the software adequately. They did get it working really well considering the limitations. It's also interesting to note that the development of the incredible still continues to this day with unofficial CM 10.1 roms. It's pretty amazing what these devs are actually capable of. It's just about getting the right dev interested enough to invest the time doing it.
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Your best bet is to use a stock-ish MF1 based rom (cleanrom isn't up to date) and find + install a S4 apps package compatible with the S3. The S4 launcher and clock works fairly well on our phones. I don't think there are any roms that aim to mimic the S4 experience exclusively. They all have different theming elements with S4 apps here and there.
Sure, no problem.
The reason we're able to have a working 4.2 kernel for AOSP is because we're not reliant on Samsung's kernel source for that side of development. AOSP is completely open source as opposed to touchwiz which has proprietary framework that's closed source.
You mention hardware differences. I know things have changed drastically since GB, so perhaps the argument I'm about to make is invalid. On the Incredible we got roms from the Runnymede which had 100% completely different hardware. It had a chipset which was many generations ahead yet devs still managed to get Sense 3.5 roms running on a device which was not intended to run anything beyond Sense 1.0. It wasn't possible til we had a GB leak made for our phone (still sense 1.0). This is due to proprietary sense framework built in at the kernel level which the devs relied on for porting - they needed the updated 2.3 version of the sense bits. I know touchwiz isn't sense, so I could be making a bad comparison here, but saying "the hardware is too different" isn't a valid reason for porting to not be possible. It could be a very similar setup. I'm not familiar enough with touchwiz to be able to make that distinction though.
These Sense 3.5 roms were marred with several issues which ultimately made them impractical to use as a daily driver. This was mainly due to how outdated the incredible was and that it simply didn't have the resources to run the software adequately. They did get it working really well considering the limitations. It's also interesting to note that the development of the incredible still continues to this day with unofficial CM 10.1 roms. It's pretty amazing what these devs are actually capable of. It's just about getting the right dev interested enough to invest the time doing it.
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True the sense 3 and 3.5 wasn't really good. We do have a Note 2,MIUI, and Sense 5 port for our devices and will likely to get ubuntu touch as soon as it is stable. Problem is that most of the developers don't have that much free time to attempt an international S3 or an US S4 port so they do what they can with the time they have.
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True the sense 3 and 3.5 wasn't really good. We do have a Note 2,MIUI, and Sense 5 port for our devices and will likely to get ubuntu touch as soon as it is stable. Problem is that most of the developers don't have that much free time to attempt an international S3 or an US S4 port so they do what they can with the time they have.
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I definitely agree; time is a huge issue. I'm assuming it's much more work porting a 4.2 based rom than it is a 2.3 based one. There's a good chance it's not worth the time investment considering the potentially buggy outcome.
Also, I apologize for assuming you didn't have any experience with earlier phones. Your join date threw me off
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I definitely agree; time is a huge issue. I'm assuming it's much more work porting a 4.2 based rom than it is a 2.3 based one. There's a good chance it's not worth the time investment considering the potentially buggy outcome.
Also, I apologize for assuming you didn't have any experience with earlier phones. Your join date threw me off
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I learn fast as the S3 is my first android device and within 3 days of buying the phone I rooted it and started flashing roms. I had ample opportunities to root/jailbreak my previous phones but waited until developers come up with better methods. As for the opening poster's question he will have to get the S4 launcher app and flash some of the S4 apps.
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