Can anyone set up an apk or bring up how to derive the uncap data throttle on the nexus S? that would be so great.
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Can anyone set up an apk or bring up how to derive the uncap data throttle on the nexus S? that would be so great.
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ill try to figure it out when i get throttled this month, its pretty easy on the nexus one.
At what usage limit does T-Mobile starts to throttle? And do they so it on the unlimited plans ?
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clubtech said:
At what usage limit does T-Mobile starts to throttle? And do they so it on the unlimited plans ?
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5gb per month, and yes on "unlimited" plans. Other phone providers(such as AT&T and Verizon) will charge you an overage rate, even on "unlimited" plans. T-Mobile, thankfully, just throttles.
There was a way to completely defeat the throttle on the T-Mobile G2 forums, but it required root and modifying some system files(as well as having drawbacks of it's own) which I'm not sure it would work on the Nexus S.
I did this on my phone, it requires modifying the services.jar. I can post the modified one for you guys if you'd like.
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Yes thanks
I've only been throttled once, and it wasn't until I was at like 6 gigs plus. The throttling wasn't very severe either...I went from 4Mbs avg speed to ~3Mbs. No big deal for me, even while tethered.
Maybe I was just lucky.
Funny thing is that my NS has NEVER reached the speeds I can get with my Nexus One. NS seems to cap out at around 3Mbs, the NS I got as high as 4.3Mbs one day of testing. I'm going to test with the N1 again today at my office and see if the N1 is actually pulling data faster. There's no way I'm throttled this month...most of my data has been on wifi, and I haven't received the dreaded SMS telling me I'm a data hog.
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I've only been throttled once, and it wasn't until I was at like 6 gigs plus. The throttling wasn't very severe either...I went from 4Mbs avg speed to ~3Mbs. No big deal for me, even while tethered.
Maybe I was just lucky.
Funny thing is that my NS has NEVER reached the speeds I can get with my Nexus One. NS seems to cap out at around 3Mbs, the NS I got as high as 4.3Mbs one day of testing. I'm going to test with the N1 again today at my office and see if the N1 is actually pulling data faster. There's no way I'm throttled this month...most of my data has been on wifi, and I haven't received the dreaded SMS telling me I'm a data hog.
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My experience has actually been the opposite of yours. As I've noted in other threads where Nexus vs Nexus has come up, my Nexus One had an exceptionally weak 3G signal. We're talking >1mb on a good day, if I even left the 3G on. If it was an important business day, I often knocked it down to EDGE just so I could reliably receive/send phone calls/texts.
My Nexus S usually pulls down between 3.2-3.8mbs, which is interestingly enough about the same as I was getting on my briefly owned MT4G(though the G2's speed was double them).
very strange man, my nexus one is slow compared to my nexus s. i NEED to send you all snap shots, im such a noob. i have 5.5-5.9mb on my nexus s. never have acheived that on my nexus one, or at least so consistently.
BEST PART
tethered my phone to my pc, downloading movies/music while having my ipade play net flix. not saying my nexus one couldnt do that, i just never did. and it was freaken awesome. went on speednet at shows 4.5-4.8mb on it. incredible hotspot/tethering.
i just really need this uncapp for tmobile to happen. i fear it will be an issue as when the throttling occurs it goes SLOWER THAN 2G.
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My experience has actually been the opposite of yours. As I've noted in other threads where Nexus vs Nexus has come up, my Nexus One had an exceptionally weak 3G signal. We're talking >1mb on a good day, if I even left the 3G on. If it was an important business day, I often knocked it down to EDGE just so I could reliably receive/send phone calls/texts.
My Nexus S usually pulls down between 3.2-3.8mbs, which is interestingly enough about the same as I was getting on my briefly owned MT4G(though the G2's speed was double them).
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very strange man, my nexus one is slow compared to my nexus s. i NEED to send you all snap shots, im such a noob. i have 5.5-5.9mb on my nexus s. never have acheived that on my nexus one, or at least so consistently..
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Our varying experiences prove what I've always said about cellular service, it's just like real estate, the only thing that matters is location, location, location. The browser I am on right now doesn't show me your locations, but I'm assuming we're not all in the suburbs of Los Angeles, so it's just a matter of what the infrastructure for T-Mo is in our particular areas.
One of the initial disappointments I had for the Nexus S when first announced was that it wasn't a "4G" (okay HSPA+ device), but when I thought about it more, I realized that even though T-Mo says I am in an HSPA+ area now, that I'm not even getting the full regular HSPA potential from any of my phones, so no point in worrying about HSPA+ until the service actually delivers HSPA+ speeds in my area. My "friend" in Newport Beach (Orange County) is only getting about 5Mbs on his MT4G as well.
More on topic, I wonder if the throttling is impacted at all by your usage patterns, and if the throttling becomes more severe the more times they throttle you. I always thought of myself as a heavy data user by watching a lot of youtube videos, some netflix, streaming Sirius radio stations, tons of web browsing, but have only gone over the 5gb monthly once. Maybe that's the reason they weren't so harsh(?).
Does anybody have a modified services.jar they could share with me? My home internet is down due to the giant blizzard and I've hit the "cap."
I've tried modifying it myself but I can't get classes.dex out of services.jar. All I have when I unpack it is MANIFEST.MF.
i have never really considered myself a heavy data user until i cut off my internet and exclusively used tethering. i got a txt from tmobile the minute i hit 5 gig. and after that my internet on the phone was so slow my browser would time on on requests. So now i mostly use my neighbors non passworded wifi
schizopunk said:
I did this on my phone, it requires modifying the services.jar. I can post the modified one for you guys if you'd like.
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:O Did you jump ship on the Epic Schizo? Glad to have you here, Epic Experience was a great rom
On topic: Are there any negative side-effects of modifying this file? And would there be issues depending on which rom we're using?
just a heads up...
According to T-mobile I hit or went over the 5GB throttle cap last week. My speeds have been down to 50 kb/s the past 7 days.
The crappy part is that I'm actually UNDER the 5GB cap. T-mobiles website reports I'm around 3GB TOTAL yet they can't seem to fix out why I'm being capped (or they aren't telling me).
My billing cycle will reset tomorrow, but I'm not counting on this resetting and I bet this happens again.
50 kb/s sucks because most apps are not even tested for speeds probably under 56k...so I notice more time outs and FC on some apps now.
At least it would be ok if it was edge speeds, but it is below that.
mortzz said:
Does anybody have a modified services.jar they could share with me? My home internet is down due to the giant blizzard and I've hit the "cap."
I've tried modifying it myself but I can't get classes.dex out of services.jar. All I have when I unpack it is MANIFEST.MF.
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I edited mine, been getting up there in the GB'z... taken from nightly 28, edited the services.jar but there's no 'one fits all' so I advise you take your services.jar from the ROM your running and edit the classes.dex -->Baksmali/Smali<-- and push it back into your phone after editing.
I kept the 7 throttleservices smaili's in the classes.dex as placeholders rather than deleting them, I just kept the headers and deleted the rest... seems to be working good, had a couple weird issues.
Keep in mind your mobile networks settings will become unusable (force close) but then again who uses those settings after they are set anyway? So make sure your roaming and apn and everything is all set before pushing the services.jar back in. So if u like to go into the settings and switch to 2G you'll have to go the *#*#4636#*#* route, or maybe a widget will do?
Anyhow, I guess you can always just push back your original services.jar....
Good write up here: http://www.greatereader.org/?p=5397
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So I never have come close to using my 5 gb of data but it seems that it happened for the first time last night. I was under the impression that throttling was only used under extreme conditions for repeat offenders seeing as how "some people" have managed to exceed the limit without being hit. My data stands at .01 kbps download and .001 kbps upload. I'm pretty annoyed right now and am giving more and more thought into another carrier and another phone. I am noticing that this phone officially bores me now. Sad because I did like it...til now.
Edit: I've jumped to 45 kbps download and 70 kbps upload. That seems to be the max now..
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well thats what you get for going over 5gb. its life on any carrier and any phone. so if your bored of the phone ok get another phone but your throttled life isnt going to change.
syaoran68 said:
well thats what you get for going over 5gb. its life on any carrier and any phone. so if your bored of the phone ok get another phone but your throttled life isnt going to change.
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Any carrier? Last time I checked, Sprint is the only carrier to have true unlimited data. Rumors have stated Verizon is reconsidering. AT&T continues to honor grandfathered unlimited plans and T-Mobile has done what? Lowered everyone's data allowance regardless of previous plans or time with the company.
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Well I have unlimited android web since last march and I've always had unlimited, no throttle, nothing, I've downloaded unlimited amounts and still no throttle.
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jonathan3579 said:
I'm pretty annoyed right now and am giving more and more thought into another carrier and another phone. I am noticing that this phone officially bores me now. Sad because I did like it...til now.
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I've hit the data throttle points a few times so i can speak from experience.
Just because you've hit the throttle point doesn't mean that the phone in itself sucks. The phone is still the same phone that had good download speeds. If you want to go to another carrier then fine. I'm not going to even attempt to stop you. But keep in mind 5Gb is a fair amount of usage. And other carriers will charge you for going over your limit, not just throttle you.
And for new customers AT&T doesn't even offer unlimited anymore. it's $25 for 2gb and $10 for every gb you use after that.
Sprint has unlimited, but their speeds suck for now. And they have horrible CS.
Verizon is still setting up their LTE network, and I believe once they are up and running they will be great. They don't even have any 4G phones yet. When the Thunderbolt comes out they'll have one, but who knows what you'd think of that phone. I haven't read any reviews.
I also heard some chatter about T-Mo re-raising their limit to 10gb. I hope they do that. IMO t-mo has amazing devices and excellent service, atleast where I live. We have all the major carriers in Spokane, and t-mo has by far the fastest data. CS speaks for itself. JD Power speaks for their customer service too. They speak good things.
In general, I think it's ridiculous for carriers to offer more and more bandwidth intensive apps like Netflix and all the streaming music apps, not to mention the ability to hook into an HDTV via HDMI or DLNA, and then lower the cap on our bandwidth to 5gb. So I hope they increase it again. It would be nice if one day they offered true unlimited and were OK with tethering and all that for us users who'd like to nix our home internet all together.
Either way, welcome to the throttling world. I don't think you'll be happier if you switch to a new carrier. Just suck it up until your next cycle. and next month, use wifi whenever humanly possible to save your data.
Cheers!
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Any carrier? Last time I checked, Sprint is the only carrier to have true unlimited data. Rumors have stated Verizon is reconsidering. AT&T continues to honor grandfathered unlimited plans and T-Mobile has done what? Lowered everyone's data allowance regardless of previous plans or time with the company.
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Clearly you haven't read Sprints terms of service. Go to their website and at the bottom of the page click it and read it.
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And for new customers AT&T doesn't even offer unlimited anymore. it's $25 for 2gb and $10 for every gb you use after that.
Sprint has unlimited, but their speeds suck for now. And they have horrible CS.
Verizon is still setting up their LTE network, and I believe once they are up and running they will be great. They don't even have any 4G phones yet. When the Thunderbolt comes out they'll have one, but who knows what you'd think of that phone. I haven't read any reviews.
I also heard some chatter about T-Mo re-raising their limit to 10gb. I hope they do that. IMO t-mo has amazing devices and excellent service, atleast where I live. We have all the major carriers in Spokane, and t-mo has by far the fastest data. CS speaks for itself. JD Power speaks for their customer service too. They speak good things.
In general, I think it's ridiculous for carriers to offer more and more bandwidth intensive apps like Netflix and all the streaming music apps, not to mention the ability to hook into an HDTV via HDMI or DLNA, and then lower the cap on our bandwidth to 5gb. So I hope they increase it again. It would be nice if one day they offered true unlimited and were OK with tethering and all that for us users who'd like to nix our home internet all together.
Either way, welcome to the throttling world. I don't think you'll be happier if you switch to a new carrier. Just suck it up until your next cycle. and next month, use wifi whenever humanly possible to save your data.
Cheers!
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Yeah, one of my good friends has discovered the wonderful fees from AT&T which I would fight. He crosses 2 gb within a week or two every bill. (And he doesn't know how to tether either...)
I have seen some relatively good speeds from Sprint here in Houston. And their $69 plan seems to be a pretty good option as well.
Verizon is the carrier that interests me the most and like you said, I believe they will be good once they finish with LTE. I am sure that I would like the Thunderbolt BUT I don't believe it to be anything groundbreaking. Let's face it, the specs are last year's best. (Actually, I don't think that even counts since the LG Optimus 2X was released in December albeit in another country.)
I have enjoyed T-Mobiles customer service however I feel that the company as a whole is making too many mistakes in exactly what you said - Promoting apps that use up a helluva lot more data with streaming and the like. On a side note, the data increase has been confirmed for the hotspot devices but nothing as far as I know of when it comes to phones. Disappointing really.
I guess this whole thing pisses me off because I have never come close to reaching the cap. In fact, I typically don't ever cross 2 gb of data so when I finally decide to dig into streaming music, tv, and movies then I get hit slowing my phone to a near complete stop. The phone isn't completely useless but it's just a fragment of what I loved about it. And syncing is taking forever thus draining my battery faster. I know there are plenty of people who have passed the threshold numerous times with no recourse but I cross it once (and haven't even checked by how much) and don't even so much as receive a data warning? I dunno....it just makes me think.
I'm always on WiFi so I never worry about this
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BTW, you may want to make sure the data they claimed you used was actually used. They seem to have some issues with their metering system. I ran into this problem last week with Tmob. They claimed I used 5.2GB in 6hours in the middle of the night while my phone was on wifi. Took forever, but they eventually unthrottled me.
More info here: http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Inter...lse-being-wrongly-throttled/m-p/755761#M23072
were you Downloading torrents?
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carmeng4evr said:
I'm always on WiFi so I never worry about this
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Me too so this is a non issue for me
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surfnhawaii808 said:
were you Downloading torrents?
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I'm not sure if that was directed at me or the OP, but no, I don't use my phone for torrents. I've got a mac mini server that I download everything on. I just use transdroid remote control to monitor them from my phone.
I download music and apps I buy,i also play a lot of youtube and surf all day long.
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Data responsibility
Don't get pissed at T-Mo
People that are at the top users of T-Mo will get throttled so that "you guys" don't ruin it for the rest of us.
I don't want my download speeds / latency affected because a small subset of people eat up the bandwidth thinking that T-Mo can replace their ISP. I surf, stream, communicate, etc on my phone, but I'm responsible enough to use WiFi when possible as to not lag the network.
Not sure about everyone else, but when I want my mobile data, it needs to be quick. So I use wifi when available to keep my traffic off the towers, so others that need it won't be hampered.
so!
got the samsung galaxy 4g the day it came out. i had actually gotten the g2 originally, and 13 days later, this phone came out and after holding it in my hands i had to have it. it was just... sexy.
so the day i got it i was so happy. i ended up paying nothing for it through a weird fluke situation on tmobiles part, which made it even better.
then the troubles started.
in getting the new phone i knew that although this phone boasts the speeds that it does there was no way i was going to get those speeds. i do a speed test. at the tmobile store (1/4 a mile away from a tower on a tuesday afternoon around 2 pm) i get ..... 0.03 down and 0 up.
....k.
so i give it some time to get used to my sim card and my usage. that's when i notice the battery. i had to charge my phone two times a day on light usage. i turn off all synching, including my google calendar and contacts to see if that helps the battery. meh, a little. but i'm still charging it at least halfway through the day, and i am not able to use my phone at work. that means from the time i unplug it ten minutes before i leave for work until 6 pm (11 hours later) my battery is at roughly 20% ... and i've done nothing on the phone whatsoever. i'm super sad about the battery life and still getting sad speed tests on my "4g".
then about a week after purchase more problems kick in.
pretty soon my picture messages aren't coming through. it's giving me messages i'm used to seeing on my iphone, something about the message size being too big to download (sorry, the wording has left my mind now that i am trying to document it all for you guys).
then i start getting no texts. and sending them is a joke. if i have less than three bars (i usually have two at home and my work building) i am not able to send. it will try and give me a failed message. pulling out the battery will usually fix it, but after a couple of weeks of that it gets used to that fix and doesn't work at all.
i go into the tmobile store.
they switch out my sim (which we had done once before) and at this point my phone doesn't recognize the new sim. the rep tells me i broke my phone (even though my phone at least recognized the previous sim) and tells me that i'll need a new phone, offering to sell me one for cheap. i leave, pretty irritated at the dude.
i go to work, call 611, they tell me my IMEI has never been active on my account. we activate it and lo and behold, my phone recognizes the sim (mmhmm). but still sending messages is still a joke. out of 10 messages i can usually get one to send. it's a sad ratio of sent to failed.
in addition, i am still charging my battery at least once to twice a day with hardly any usage whatsoever (what good is using a phone that never has service anyway?). i've turned off wifi at all times, 4g is off, everything synching is off. i'll take out the sim and put it in my iphone so that it's not constantly searching for service (which texting worked just fine on my iphone) and it STILL dies by the end of my work day - i am lucky if i get 12 hours of standby before having to charge it. i condition my battery with no luck.. it still sucks. i root it and set SetCPU to underclock down to 200mhz when idle just to see if that will help the battery. i get about 14 hours of standby on that.
so, after all of this and about two months later, i finally got a replacement phone today. after looking at the back of the new phone and the old one i discover something interesting...
my sim contacts have been broken this whole time! sad!
( i was going to link to the pic but can't since i'm a new user. )
now, has this new phone fixed my issue? well, for one i'm getting 4g speeds at my place (i live in downtown SLC, i should be getting them here!) for the first time ever and have yet to come across a "failed" message when sending texts. only time will tell but mostly i want to post this to let you know.. if you are having this issue this is NOT normal. talk to tmobile. troubleshoot what you need to and get that mother replaced!
(i'll report back on battery life tomorrow.)
Consider yourself lucky. I live in Murray, phone says 4G but my Vibrant pulls faster speeds on 3g. Lol
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Honestly man I was in SLC a couple weeks ago with my 4g and the speed sucked compaired to here in Reno... I get 7mb up and 1.8 up avg with much higher peaks in Reno. Even at the gateway downtown SLC the 4g sucked at about 3mb upload and 750k up.
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i need a new city
Vegas here. Even though they say we are one of the new turned up cities I'm still only getting 7mb down and 1.5 up on a typical day.
Here's something interesting though, when I upgraded from my G1 to my SGS4G they were supposed to update my data plan.
Logged into my TMO account and it still shows the G1 Unlimited data. Paying $25 instead of the $30.
My wife has a MT4G and her account did get upgraded to the 4G Unlimited data plan for $30 a month.
Possible my phone isn't going to get higher speeds based on the data plan still in my account? I'm doubting it, but I guess it's possible.
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Vegas here. Even though they say we are one of the new turned up cities I'm still only getting 7mb down and 1.5 up on a typical day.
Here's something interesting though, when I upgraded from my G1 to my SGS4G they were supposed to update my data plan.
Logged into my TMO account and it still shows the G1 Unlimited data. Paying $25 instead of the $30.
My wife has a MT4G and her account did get upgraded to the 4G Unlimited data plan for $30 a month.
Possible my phone isn't going to get higher speeds based on the data plan still in my account? I'm doubting it, but I guess it's possible.
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i still have the g1 data plan as well, i wonder if that does have anything to do with it. i kinda don't want to ask though, the 5 bucks a month is small but nice to not pay
p.s. for all interested, my battery is at 48% with pretty consistent usage and synching on all day. schweet!
I would have callers t mobile right away and gotten a new phone overnight. I am not too trusting of in store employees. Most don't know how to troubleshoot a phone.
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i need a new city
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You can have my city.... except I don't have a city.... it's just a trailer park in the middle of nowhere. But then I get better speed here than I can in the nearest two cities, a ripping 16KB/SEC on a good day, on "AMERICAS LARGEST 4G NETWORK" I spend almost as much time downloading as I do talking to tech support. Then that's another story.
Your data plan will not affect your data speeds in any way.
As for the phone showing 4G and having another 3G device pulling better speeds. The cause is that you are not in a true 4G area. The GS4G does not have an icon for 3G, even if it did, the phone cannot distinguish between 3G or 4G due to the fact that HSPA+ is still 3G hardware on the tower, but provides 4G speeds via software in the base station and the backhaul of the network.
I don't see how you are getting such bad speeds. I live in Kaysville, only 20 minutes from SLC and my average DL speed is usually around 5.0mb/s. The fastest I have gotten over 4g so far is 8.8mb/s.
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I don't see how you are getting such bad speeds. I live in Kaysville, only 20 minutes from SLC and my average DL speed is usually around 5.0mb/s. The fastest I have gotten over 4g so far is 8.8mb/s.
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If you are lucky enough to have a 3 or 4G tower in your area you will likely have good download speed. My download speed sucks. TMO's network is full of holes.... DEAD zones. Even in large areas like Los Angeles, CA. They have a long way to go before their network will catch up with the others.
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Your data plan will not affect your data speeds in any way.
As for the phone showing 4G and having another 3G device pulling better speeds. The cause is that you are not in a true 4G area. The GS4G does not have an icon for 3G, even if it did, the phone cannot distinguish between 3G or 4G due to the fact that HSPA+ is still 3G hardware on the tower, but provides 4G speeds via software in the base station and the backhaul of the network.
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I'm confused by this due to my dell streak 7 actually showing 3g and 4g at different times.
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Your data plan will not affect your data speeds in any way.
As for the phone showing 4G and having another 3G device pulling better speeds. The cause is that you are not in a true 4G area. The GS4G does not have an icon for 3G, even if it did, the phone cannot distinguish between 3G or 4G due to the fact that HSPA+ is still 3G hardware on the tower, but provides 4G speeds via software in the base station and the backhaul of the network.
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I actually get 3g , 4g, edge, and g.
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Bl4ckpheniX said:
I actually get 3g , 4g, edge, and g.
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The GS4G does not even have an icon to represent 3G.
Please, if you can, provide a screenshot.
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The GS4G does not even have an icon to represent 3G.
Please, if you can, provide a screenshot.
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I will have to do it Monday, cause it only happens when I leave my office building. When I am in my office building I will often go into data roaming through at&t. This may have something to do with why it shows up. But it is there.
If you truly doubt it. Go to the market and download ninja morph. Then use it to make a copy of your framework-res.APK. From there open the COPY that you made. Look in framework-res.apk\res\drawable-hdpi-v4
Do not try and look in the actual phones framework-res.apk. Because it will break a couple things and you will have to re-flash. But if you make the copy it will automatically extract the apk and you can view the files with your computer.
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The GS4G does not even have an icon to represent 3G.
Please, if you can, provide a screenshot.
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that my friend, you are wrong on.
I get the 3G icon on my elevator everyday before and after work.
4g
I always get 4g in the missouri area and I get 13mbps
I mean WTF? I have almost full bars and 4g symbol but I can't get online or the market will say data connectivity is fuked. Or sometimes it's just insanely slow.
What gives?
I will try it a few times and it works perfect and it's like this everywhere in town.
You are not the only one.
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You are not the only one.
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Good to know
This blows, WTF. . . . My HD2 flies when this thing just croaks. It just hangs and waits for who knows what.
Welcome to 4G.... The G stands for Gullible.
Seems that when the 4G icon is displayed means that you have a 4G signal, however I don't think means you have a connection.
When I do get a 4G connection, life is great.
It appears to me that there are several bugs switching back and forth between wifi/4g/2g that is causing many issues.
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I mean WTF? I have almost full bars and 4g symbol but I can't get online or the market will say data connectivity is fuked. Or sometimes it's just insanely slow.
What gives?
I will try it a few times and it works perfect and it's like this everywhere in town.
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This is horse crap. The connectivity rotts, I meat rotts. . . . .The best speed I got so far was 3,000bps. But my other phone is at a constants 28.
And the worst part is not the speed, it's just spotty. Sometimes I get like 700, this is not cool.
I have never had this issue.
I rarely ever lose 4g and I constantly have fantastic speedy connections.
I have never had a phone hold a connection as well as this phone.
(iPhone, BB, Nexus One, HTC HD7, etc..)
diablos991 said:
I have never had this issue.
I rarely ever lose 4g and I constantly have fantastic speedy connections.
I have never had a phone hold a connection as well as this phone.
(iPhone, BB, Nexus One, HTC HD7, etc..)
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Word, I never lose the 4G symbol. Yet, there is no connectivity.
Did any of you guys happen to skip the initial setup for your phones? That has been found to cause a lot of problems relating to signal and connectivity. Try factory resetting and NOT skipping the initial setup if you skipped it before.
Edit: My phone is running great now, but once I did skip the initial setup and it was being really wonky.
Initial settup:/
I strongly doubt it. . . Just what I think.
Make sure T-Mobile is using the right internet for 2days they had blackberry web I noticed that while looking into the myaccount app
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I had an issue as well.
T-mobile had set up my device wrong, they put me under a "unlimited text / talk" plan with a "mobile wifi data only" option, ie: zero data on 3g/4g.
After a 15min phone call to support it was corrected but as some people know already, the promotion I'm under (and what is being advertised), which is the $79.99 unlimited text/data/talk plan, the data limit is 2 gigs a month.
Its 2011 ffs. 2 gig's is stupid low.
I was using my G2X with no issues until today. everything that uses data connection is slow and times out. when i connect to a wireless connection it is blazing fast. I don't think i skipped the initial set up i don't see why i would but i am going to reset and do it again and see if it helps, Battery life is also terrible i have not been using my phone for much today and its is already at 20% and i unplugged it at 9am , my HD2 at this point is looking good.
So strange, today the connectivity is real good(2k down) I also have SPB 3D installed and the battery is awesome so far. 6 hours and I am @ 69% with a lot of use.
I'm having this same problem and I'm pissed. Calling tmobile is a pain in the ass nowadays and I'm about to tell them to shove this phone up their ass!!!!
My question is this: Will a new ROM(when it comes out) fix this BS?
I've made 3 jumps so far with our N5.. First with AIO (awesome service), then GoPhone, and now TMO's $30..
Let me get to the point..(in red)
I became stupidly shocked when I just checked my data usage on MyTmobile's page after having the service going on 2 weeks...... Here's the story:
When I had GoPhone (last month) I burned through my 2gb limit in literally 2 weeks upon having their service. I soon after realized that I couldn't live without data (2 days with data cut off) so I bought another gig.. $10.. I burned through that in literally a week. So I basically burn through 1gb a week..
At this point, I knew I needed to jump ship, cause if I was to stay with GoPhone, I would be spending out-the-wazoo
I didn't want to go back to T-mobile (I had them for 4 years on contract prior going pre-paid) because where I live for college, and given the fact I travel outside rural cities a lot, I hated not having 4g/3g speeds.. I needed it for GPS and what not.. How i dealt with them for 4 years, who knows lol (being grandfathered in and it being cheap I guess, kept me ha)
Anyways, I said screw it and came back to T-Mobile and I'm now using the $30 plan.. Since I'm in the city for winter break, I thought, "Why not, I'm not traveling and I'm not in my college town where my phone only receives 2g" --- I get LTE in the city, so for a month, I can deal with it and be happy.
And I'm glad I did because, I **** you not, I'm doing the same exact things I did with GoPhone as I am with TMO, and I'm only at 367.XXmb after 2 weeks
GoPhone after 2 weeks = 2GB
TMO after 2 weeks = 367.xxMB
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE..????
Like I said, I'm doing the EXACT same things WITHOUT WiFi; stream hours of music i.e. Pandora and Google Music, FB, IG, Twitter, SnapChat, loads of texts, web browsing, etc
settings are synched the same, everything the same with 2 vastly different results.. This is nuts..
Idk, but it seems as if TMO doesn't grab/need as much data as GoPhone/ATT does.. Idk if that's possible, but given the circumstances, it seems that way..
Anybody else experienced a similar situation?
Does T-Mobile not update as fast or what? It seem odd to go from 1GB a week to 150MB doing the samethings. Unless they are compressing stuff too or something? Who knows....
I wonder if they count non 4g data?
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shotta35 said:
Does T-Mobile not update as fast or what? It seem odd to go from 1GB a week to 150MB doing the samethings. Unless they are compressing stuff too or something? Who knows....
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they're compressing stuff like sprint.
markdapimp said:
they're compressing stuff like sprint.
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Ah, then that would make sense then..
Didn't think of that.. Thanks..
Either way, it's awesome lol -- wonder if aio compresses stuff too.. I wouldn't think so since is based off att
matholomus said:
Ah, then that would make sense then..
Didn't think of that.. Thanks..
Either way, it's awesome lol -- wonder if aio compresses stuff too.. I wouldn't think so since is based off att
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The reason why they compress stuff is to off load certain sites that are heavy traffic with less bandwidth utilization, Sprint really needs this because currently in Hawaii their 1X is faster than their 3G... only till network vision starts then we will see improvements, but yeah they also use the compression to Limit your speeds, i know it seems crazy I thought T-Mobile is Unlimited, not quite they throttle when a site you're connected to is at it's peak load
verizon is planning to throttle some of us on unlimited in a couple months. the fcc is having none of it.
read about it here.
comments welcome
(mods move please if this doesn't belong here)
thanks
VZW will respond in their typical manner, by stalling for as long as possible, then making up more technobabble regarding "network optimization / prioritization / certification / [insert your term of choice here]". When they finally cannot drag their feet any longer, they will force unmlimited users onto tiered plans, or give them the option to leave with no ETF.
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i dont think etf's are an issue. i believe it has been long enough, no one should be under contract any more.
they cant throttle us as it would violate the 700mhz agreement. so there must be some other legality thats keeping them from kicking us off, or they would have already done it, at least im hoping there is anyways.
My HTC one has been stuck in 3g for a couple of days now...I think these greed mongers found their loop
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Primevyl said:
My HTC one has been stuck in 3g for a couple of days now...I think these greed mongers found their loop
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During my last 6-8 months with VZW, my LTE speeds were getting progressively slower to the point it was barely faster than 3G. YouTube videos always buffered, even when I had 3+ bars of LTE. I am pretty sure they began throttling users long ago, but only now made it "official" policy.
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During my last 6-8 months with VZW, my LTE speeds were getting progressively slower to the point it was barely faster than 3G. YouTube videos always buffered, even when I had 3+ bars of LTE. I am pretty sure they began throttling users long ago, but only now made it "official" policy.
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I noticed the same thing, but I didn't have Unlimited. Where I work, there's apparently a tower not far, yet my speeds were mediocre (3-9Mb/s) At home, there is supposedly equipment from all of the big 4 providers, yet my my Verizon speeds weren't any better. Now, with T-Mobile, at work where the signal is weak (at the farthest point between 2 towers), I get 10-16Mb/s, and at home I get high 20's during the day at the slowest, and at night upwards of 40Mb/s (sometimes more). I don't know if they're throttling on purpose or they're just constantly bottlenecked due to traffic. Either way, I'm glad I switched. Much faster speeds and Unlimited for the same cost.
It's too bad 1GB costs like 10$, these people are so out of touch in regard to the value of data
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It's too bad 1GB costs like 10$, these people are so out of touch in regard to the value of data
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The issues isn't that they don't know the value of data but rather they know that people will pay whatever they charge for it. If they didn't know the value of data they wouldn't resort to moves like throttling unlimited plan users to get them to switch to a capped plan.