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Hi, im considerably new to the whole android development i have a g1 since early december and have upgrade it to the modded JFC 1.31 ADP. I also have the adp spl i think thats what u call it .
My question relates to the running processes/tasks/programs. I am concerned about the amount of programs that run in the background. Is there a way to cut down on this?
I have already removed Calendar, Amazon, Calculator, Calendar Provider seeing as how i do not intend on using these as for calculator i have installed a scientific calculator.
Its more or less Facebook, Craigslist, Imeem. The other bckg progs Gmail, Messaging, Alarm Clock are all smth i use so therefore i have no issue on that but ive tried editing settings on Craigslist, Facebook, Imeem and others to change the update interval and have maxed those out but still tend to run in the background i use the programs but i dont need them to update themselves.
Edit: I have also stopped the auto sync on Calendar, Gmail, Contacts Seeing as for Calendar i dont need it, Gmail i check it often, Contacts i dont use on my gmail service.
Have you got the task manager app from the app store? Thats what I do, and kill all the apps I don't need active.
TimSykes said:
Have you got the task manager app from the app store? Thats what I do, and kill all the apps I don't need active.
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Yes i have, however they keep coming back up!
yeah I know some of them do. to me I don't know why alarm does. I don't even have a alarm set on my phone.
They come back due to the way android handles and saves tasks. The OS will keep resurrecting them thinking they are just dormant and were axed by them.
ArronL said:
They come back due to the way android handles and saves tasks. The OS will keep resurrecting them thinking they are just dormant and were axed by them.
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So is there a way around this or not?
yeah.. im having the same problem, i shut them all down via task manager, but after like 1 minute i go back in there and they all come back up, is there any way to make them be off permanentally till you use them again?
tbh, the way the android works, if it keeps bringing these programs back they're probably not eating up too much memory.
in fact, no matter how much crap is running in the background i've never experienced any lag or anything. makes me wonder if there's any point in killing apps, except for ones that may be constantly connected to the internet.
Meltus said:
tbh, the way the android works, if it keeps bringing these programs back they're probably not eating up too much memory.
in fact, no matter how much crap is running in the background i've never experienced any lag or anything. makes me wonder if there's any point in killing apps, except for ones that may be constantly connected to the internet.
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Well i definitely notice a lag, although i agree with you on the applications i removed like 80% of them now just using ones i need and just installed the 1.41 everything works great. But run about 10apps let them run in the bckgs and slide the main application tab on the home screen up and down and scroll through the programs. Then kill about all apps but 3 to account for ones you need and try it again you should most likely notice a difference.
Not on lag but background processes use up battery to, I did a wipe and have like four apps on my phone: aim astro any cut and ak notepad (wow must like A's) but my battery life is noticible better than before, I can go a whole day with out having to charge vs having to charge every few hours
does anyone know of a startup manager for the G1 for EG when i reboot or start up my phone i get a lot of services and programs which i use but do not want to start on boot.
i can use task manager to close them once the phone is started but wouldt be happy for something that disables these from the start.
Has anyone found a way to modify what OEM apps boot at startup?
So using Task Manager for Root Users we get this peek into what's ?running? on our phone. or am i sadly confused..
upon initial boot and after letting the phone boot fully (about 3 minutes) i get this list in my taskmanager..
Task Manager ---not oem
Service Viewer ---not oem
MyFaves storage
Messaging
Voice Dialer
Google Talk
Maps
Calendar
Alarm Clock
Power Manager ---not oem
Missed Call ---not oem
Messaging
Phone Recorder ---not oem
MyFaves Storage
Voice Dialer
Google Talk
Maps
The list remains the same even after several refreshes..
...oddly only after killing a few tasks this is added?
Gmail
note: at this point in service viewer/tasks, only taskmanager, launcher and service viewer are present..
After killing every process through multiple refreshes messaging (which I assume is a critical app tied to the notification bar) is the only thing that remains until i load something else..
First question..are the apps listed in task manager actual hurting my battery/memory/cpu performance?
Secone question..Is there any way to auto-kill these tasks upon boot, other than by removing them? Or is there some boot.ini type file that could be editted?
sry for the long post, just curious if something can be done...
Yeah id also like to know how to manipulate what starts up on boot.
Any dev should be able to tell us.
Plenty of apps start at boot.
Seriously I would LOVE the answer to these questions. Thanks
Now while this isn't coming from a dev, when I look at the running app list I often see things I haven't touched, but they won't start unless the phone's been idle. I think what happens is it actively fills empty ram with programs so they will start faster, so I think it's just in the nature of Android.
Fushichou said:
Now while this isn't coming from a dev, when I look at the running app list I often see things I haven't touched, but they won't start unless the phone's been idle. I think what happens is it actively fills empty ram with programs so they will start faster, so I think it's just in the nature of Android.
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yes but dont they use up cpu/memory/battery? plus i dont think the programs are so resource heavy that they would need a process running.
An answer from a Dev is what we need
I think what we need is an explaination as HOW a program can autostart on boot. If every program on my phone (stored to sd) started automatically when I turned on my phone I'll be waiting a week for it to start up. There has to be a script that these programs add to or something to run these program automatically. Either that or it's the programs themselves that are set up to start up by themselves. Where if that's the case I think we're screwed.
I'm also VERY interested in this.
Also, how to keep apps from auto-restarting once you kill them. PixelPipe has a background service that, once you start the app after reboot, it won't die. Their app support guy states otherwise tho, heh.
Also, I like how the OS says a program has "died"
I wouldn't really worry about it. For one most of those processes will be sleeping. They use no CPU time when they're in this state. Some processes register an event with the kernel and just sleep forever until that event occurs and the kernel reactivates the process. Some processes sleep for a specific amount of time, wake up and do some task, then go back to sleep. In both cases the number of CPU cycles being used are likely negligible. Most of those start-up programs will fall into one or the other category. The stuff that does take up a fair amount of CPU cycles are things like the multimedia system, the UI system, messenging, etc. In other words, the stuff you want to keep running.
Also, I wouldn't pay too much attention to those memory usage numbers. There's heavy use of shared libraries in the system. Ordinarily processes are only allowed to access memory that is allocated to them. This memory is where the process stores the bits that make up its code (stuff that doesn't change) and where it stores its working data (stuff that does change). Its actually more complicated than that but this will suffice for now. Libraries that are not shared are accessible only to the process that is using it and is stored in the memory allocated to it. Libraries that are shared can be used by multiple processes. These shared libraries are allocated to one place in RAM and when an app needs to use one of them the kernel takes care of mapping the location of the library so the app can access it as if it was in its own memory space.
The memory usage numbers you are seeing do not take into account these shared libraries. An app may be using only 1 or 2 MB of RAM but since it uses a shared library the RAM being used to hold the library is also counted and the size could be shown as 20 or 30 MB higher that what it actually is. You could kill a process and recover some memory but its probably not enough to be worth it since more than likely most of the RAM being used was in shared libraries and they'll still be there after the process is gone.
numerik, thanks for the info. But now I guess my bigger concern would have to do with this part:
Some processes sleep for a specific amount of time, wake up and do some task, then go back to sleep.
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Similar to the problems we run into in windows. Some lame program gets added to msconfig (be it a m$ app or wicked virus), it sits there idle when you fire up your computer uses a minimal amount of cpu amd memory then does who knows what whenever it wants.
Stop PushInternet for real - throw Opera out of memory and save 9.5 MB memory
Push-Internet – sounds like a pretty good idea: The user can set certain webpages to be automatically downloaded to their devices in time intervals that can be set. This way it will take much less time to open a webpage, since it's cached locally on the device.
On second thought this isn't such a great thing though:
1.The smallest time interval that can be set is 1 hour. For people that are in need of realtime information from websites, this certainly won't work. And even if you're just browsing to a website that is updated pretty often, you wouldn't want to miss the last hour and would refresh it anyway.
2.Another big downside of push internet: for it to work HTC forces Opera to stay in memory all the time. Even if you quit Opera from within, it will be restarted within the blink of an eye, at the costs of an extra 9.5 MB that are taken from RAM.
3.Opera staying in memory all the time makes it hard to save changes via opera:config , like the number of open tabs.
Now, there is of course the possibility to deactivate push internet some will say, but the available option does not actually stop the underlying pushinternet-service nor does it stop Opera from staying in memory (for no reason).
By downloading and installing the attached NoPushInternet_v2.CAB you will force the underlying PushInternetEngine service to „start manual“ instead of automatic and you will get rid of Opera staying in and eating up your memory after a softreset.
BUT BEWARE: Once you have installed NoPushInternet_v2.CAB, push internet will not work anymore, the respective setting under Touchflo will have NO EFFECT, no matter if turned off or on.
You will have to uninstall NoPushInternet_v2.CAB to actually be able to turn push internet back on. To uninstall got to uninstall programs and click on „Manila NoPushInternet“, all changes will be reverted.
Visit my Blog if you like: http://mytd2.blogspot.com , it's in german however.
This description is included in the CAB file and will be installed to \My Documents folder.
[UPDATE July 14]
Fixed a bug: Opera would not switch to landscape mode on the first loaded page.
Download and install NoPushInternet_v2.CAB or only NoPiFix.CAB if you had v1.0 installed.
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Stop PushInternet for real - throw Opera out of memory and save 9.5 MB memory
Push-Internet – sounds like a pretty good idea: The user can set certain webpages to be automatically downloaded to their devices in time intervals that can be set. This way it will take much less time to open a webpage, since it's cached locally on the device.
On second thought this isn't such a great thing though:
1.The smallest time interval that can be set is 1 hour. For people that are in need of realtime information from websites, this certainly won't work. And even if you're just browsing to a website that is updated pretty often, you wouldn't want to miss the last hour and would refresh it anyway.
2.Another big downside of push internet: for it to work HTC forces Opera to stay in memory all the time. Even if you quit Opera from within, it will be restarted within the blink of an eye, at the costs of an extra 9.5 MB that are taken from RAM.
3.Opera staying in memory all the time makes it hard to save changes via opera:config , like the number of open tabs.
Now, there is of course the possibility to deactivate push internet some will say, but the available option does not actually stop the underlying pushinternet-service nor does it stop Opera from staying in memory (for no reason).
By downloading and installing the attached cab you will force the underlying PushInternetEngine service to „start manual“ instead of automatic and you will get rid of Opera staying in and eating up your memory after a softreset.
BUT BEWARE: Once you have installed NoPushInternet.CAB, push internet will not work anymore, the respective setting under Touchflo will have NO EFFECT, no matter if turned off or on.
You will have to uninstall NoPushInternet.CAB to actually be able to turn push internet back on. To uninstall got to uninstall programs and click on „Manila NoPushInternet“, all changes will be reverted.
Visit my Blog if you like: http://mytd2.blogspot.com , it's in german however.
This description is included in the CAB file and will be installed to \My Documents folder.
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thanx for the app
i'm looking for this a wile push internet is really not good dont like it at al
again thanx man really good work
GRTZ Roosen
It can also be done in the registry.
HKLM\Software\HTC\PushInternet\Enable => change to 0
@roosen
Thank you! Glad you find it useful.
@elmalote
Thats' not all of it.
very nice!!
thanks a lot.
Nice work dude
+10% free RAM : That's a TRICK! Thank you!
thanks friend. have no use for push internet. plus get back some ram!! good.
This is a very nice tweak, thanks. However, it does have one side-effect I am not sure I like. Because Opera doesn't run in the background, everytime you press 'Open Internetbrowser' Opera needs to be loaded and this takes a few seconds. Not sure if the extra free RAM outweighs the wait for the browser to start.
Thanks for the nice comments!
BettyWeter said:
This is a very nice tweak, thanks. However, it does have one side-effect I am not sure I like. Because Opera doesn't run in the background, everytime you press 'Open Internetbrowser' Opera needs to be loaded and this takes a few seconds. Not sure if the extra free RAM outweighs the wait for the browser to start.
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That's true, of course and for everyone to decide for themselves. It will only take longer on first start, if you set Opera not to close on X or switch via Taskmanager (WksTask is great for that btw.) it will stay in memory. I for one like to decide myself if and when Opera stays in memory. Also this "downside" is an "upside" for some: Your device will start quicker, as Opera isn't loaded automatically.
You may however load Opera via autostart and have both: Opera ready in memory, but you can throw it out of memory if/when you like. Probably the best for your specific liking, Betty.
BettyWeter said:
Opera needs to be loaded and this takes a few seconds. Not sure if the extra free RAM outweighs the wait for the browser to start.
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It is a personal choice depending also on what use you are making of your device, but as you said, it takes a really short time to load Opera. Be also aware that having a more charged RAM can:
slow down your device
drain battery more quickly (this is the problem I'm trying to fight by all means!)
I think that HTC decided to load Opera at startup "just for the show", to impress people when they discover their newly bought device for the first time. But with passing of time the surprise effect vanishes and users may want to have a more efficient device for every day use. Anyway..it's all up to you guys!!
To TinTin:
I don't like using to much cab files on my diamond 2.
I want to manually insert the changes into the registry.
If I do this:
"HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\InternetPush\EnablePushInternet" value="0"
"HKLM\Software\HTC\PushInternetEngine\Enable" value="0"
"HKLM\Services\PushInternetEngine\Flags" value="4"
Is this then the same as your cab file?
Thank you very much for your tweak
Greetz from belgium,
Jeppe
be careful with this tweak because tomtom backlight will change and turn off everytime device goes to stand-by mode!! I don't know why...
@diego
must have been caused by something else, definitely not related
jeppe188 said:
To TinTin:
I don't like using to much cab files on my diamond 2.
I want to manually insert the changes into the registry.
If I do this:
"HKLM\Software\HTC\Manila\InternetPush\EnablePushInternet" value="0"
"HKLM\Software\HTC\PushInternetEngine\Enable" value="0"
"HKLM\Services\PushInternetEngine\Flags" value="4"
Is this then the same as your cab file?
Thank you very much for your tweak
Greetz from belgium,
Jeppe
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Could TinTin be kind enough to confirm this..?
Sorry, not sure how I missed that post.. seems I'm not always getting notifications here either
It's correct, all DWORD values, last one has to be created, it's not there by default.
hth
Tin
TinTin said:
Sorry, not sure how I missed that post.. seems I'm not always getting notifications here either
It's correct, all DWORD values, last one has to be created, it's not there by default.
hth
Tin
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Can I use the cab-file for my HTC Touch Diamond 1?
I tried jeppe188's tweak, but I can't find those 3 InternetPush-files in my registor. Are they placed in another map on the TD1?
Regards, R.G.
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Can I use the cab-file for my HTC Touch Diamond 1?
Regards, R.G.
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I don't own a TD1, but afaik it does not come with push internet, hence this tweak is useless for you.
ok thank you
Thanks dude. Got 10MB+ back.
This is the 3rd day I have my D2. Maybe this is the initial stage so I do soft reset more often (install new software). Hope so coz I cannot imagine if the back cover can survive multiple opening per day for each soft reset. hahaha
If i understand Android correctly, it sends applications into a "background" mode when switching tasks? I would like to prevent that. There are some apps (like games or browser) that need quit a bit of time restoring the last state so this would be usefull for some tasks.
Is this possible ?
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If i understand Android correctly, it sends applications into a "background" mode when switching tasks? I would like to prevent that. There are some apps (like games or browser) that need quit a bit of time restoring the last state so this would be usefull for some tasks.
Is this possible ?
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Well, switching to background mode just marks the application as not displaying anything. The way memory management on Android works, if foreground apps (i.e. apps that are actively displaying on the screen) need memory and there's none available, then background apps will be put into a stored state that frees up memory for the foreground apps. Coming back from that stored state is probably what you're noticing. Android also tries to keep a certain amount of unused memory around and will put background apps into stored state to achieve that. We do have pretty limited memory available on this device so some level of pausing is always going to happen. See also: http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
You may be able to reduce how many background tasks are put into storage by tweaking the minfree parameters (using e.g. Autokiller Memory Optimizer from the market) to tell Android to aim for a smaller pool of free space.
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Well, switching to background mode just marks the application as not displaying anything. The way memory management on Android works, if foreground apps (i.e. apps that are actively displaying on the screen) need memory and there's none available, then background apps will be put into a stored state that frees up memory for the foreground apps. Coming back from that stored state is probably what you're noticing. Android also tries to keep a certain amount of unused memory around and will put background apps into stored state to achieve that. We do have pretty limited memory available on this device so some level of pausing is always going to happen. See also: http://andrs.w3pla.net/autokiller/details
You may be able to reduce how many background tasks are put into storage by tweaking the minfree parameters (using e.g. Autokiller Memory Optimizer from the market) to tell Android to aim for a smaller pool of free space.
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Thanks, i'm will give it a try. Is it also possible to max out swap before sending apps to background? I think restoring the ram-state from sd would still be faster for several apps.
Edit: reading your post again, i'm not talking about a tasking switch delay, but apps that completly reload themselves when switching tasks (DolphinMini page load,DungeonHunter as examples). Just to prevent any confusion...
TyrionWarMage said:
Thanks, i'm will give it a try. Is it also possible to max out swap before sending apps to background? I think restoring the ram-state from sd would still be faster for several apps.
Edit: reading your post again, i'm not talking about a tasking switch delay, but apps that completly reload themselves when switching tasks (DolphinMini page load,DungeonHunter as examples). Just to prevent any confusion...
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Oh... Sorry I misunderstood. I don't know anything relevant to that case.
I've spent a few hours trying to find how to make certain Droid apps maintain their foreground state when put in the background with no luck. Perhaps it just can't be done.
I'm thinking of the Cydia iPhone app called Backgrounder which lets you choose which apps maintain foreground state when put into the background.
This is necessary, for example, with a note application where you are switching between taking notes and looking up info. Every time you switch back to the note app, you need to go back into your note, put it in edit mode and navigate to the section of the note you were editing. If it were acting like a foreground app in the background, when switching back to it it would already have your note open and be in edit mode with the cursor where you left off.
K9 mail has a similar problem where if you have an email open, switch to another application, when you go back to K9 it takes you to your inbox again where you have to navigate to the email you had open before switching.
Is there a tool similar to Backgrounder for Android?
Thanks.
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I've spent a few hours trying to find how to make certain Droid apps maintain their foreground state when put in the background with no luck. Perhaps it just can't be done.
I'm thinking of the Cydia iPhone app called Backgrounder which lets you choose which apps maintain foreground state when put into the background.
This is necessary, for example, with a note application where you are switching between taking notes and looking up info. Every time you switch back to the note app, you need to go back into your note, put it in edit mode and navigate to the section of the note you were editing. If it were acting like a foreground app in the background, when switching back to it it would already have your note open and be in edit mode with the cursor where you left off.
K9 mail has a similar problem where if you have an email open, switch to another application, when you go back to K9 it takes you to your inbox again where you have to navigate to the email you had open before switching.
Is there a tool similar to Backgrounder for Android?
Thanks.
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Looking for such tool too. Making app to stick with its foreground state even though it is actually in the background. (Make it appear in notification?)
ZDBox is a useful tool... you can download from market its free and the app has the abbility to:
★ Traffic counter: Monthly/daily mobile data usage overview, shows remaining data traffic, detailed data usage information for each app.
★ Do not disturb: Just set days and the time when you need your privacy and you won’t be disturbed by your phone. Set phone to silent, vibration or airplane mode.
★ App lock: Protect apps with a password or pattern, for exmaple your contacts, Facebook, Twitter, Whatsapp,Gmail and so on
★ Task killer: Kill all apps at once, define protected apps which won’t be killed, set auto kill when screen gets locked, mark single or multiple apps to kill
★ history eraser：clean your（Browser history,market search history,Google Map search history,Gmail search history,Clipboard）
★ Notification bar: One tap on the bar shows remaining battery time, running apps, how much data traffic is left and if app lock is active or not. A tap on these informations starts ZDbox.
★ Uninstaller: Shows used/available internal and SD card memory. Apps can be easily uninstalled. Single or multiple (batch) uninstall possible.
★ App to SD: Move apps to your SD card. Single or multiple (batch) move possible. Only for Android 2.2 and 2.3.
★Cache Cleaner:With Cache Cleaner you can clean your cache of phone.protect your secret without a trace.
I hope you can use for keep your running applications with that app...
sorry for my english...
davidequiz said:
★ Task killer: Kill all apps at once, define protected apps which won’t be killed, set auto kill when screen gets locked, mark single or multiple apps to kill
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This will not help since the task killer which kills the background apps in inside the android system not an external one.
We must find a way to control the internal one then...
nheacock said:
I've spent a few hours trying to find how to make certain Droid apps maintain their foreground state when put in the background with no luck. Perhaps it just can't be done.
I'm thinking of the Cydia iPhone app called Backgrounder which lets you choose which apps maintain foreground state when put into the background.
This is necessary, for example, with a note application where you are switching between taking notes and looking up info. Every time you switch back to the note app, you need to go back into your note, put it in edit mode and navigate to the section of the note you were editing. If it were acting like a foreground app in the background, when switching back to it it would already have your note open and be in edit mode with the cursor where you left off.
K9 mail has a similar problem where if you have an email open, switch to another application, when you go back to K9 it takes you to your inbox again where you have to navigate to the email you had open before switching.
Is there a tool similar to Backgrounder for Android?
Thanks.
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Guys, I'm so much looking for a solution of this same thing. The closest I came to is Ram manager. Has a xda threat and can be found in the play store. But it also can't manage to lock an app and prevent its killing (although it helps a lot). I need my navigation always running and it is silently killed or stopped while I'm looking at my mail or have a phone call. This is ridiculous. Have you found a solution. Some way to protect an app from killing and lock it in the foreground. I mean how are they able to do it for the apps which are in the system tray!? Like antivirus apps and tons of other. I can't believe xda experts don't know how...
I would think that Antivirus apps run a service.
In Mioze's CM6 there are build prop edits that might work, but I never tried them.
Code:
# apps to be kept in memory (specified by process name)
# use with caution, RAM is limited!
sys.keep_app_1=
sys.keep_app_2=
I am not an expert and can't tell the difference between service and an app running. What you're saying makes sense, but I need clear instructions somewhere to make an app protected from killing. Thanks for helping.
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Wrong forms this milestone xt720.
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I pretty much fixed android multitasking - even on ense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Testers welcome.
And for locking an app in a foreground state, my SuperCharger can do that via BulletProof Apps menu.
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I pretty much fixed android multitasking - even on ense 4.0 and 4.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
wI
Testers welcome.
And for locking an app in a foreground state, my SuperCharger can do that via BulletProof Apps menu.
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I tested that and almost became an expert. I'm not so sure if it is completely solved, although I have to admit that you have done a great and recognized job.
Just tell me can the script for bulletproof apps work alone, without the supercharger script. Many ROMs have their own memory settings and one is afraid to cover them with supercharger script settings.
But if bulletproof script can run and do the job on itsown then the problem is really fixed.
Yeah its separate.
Alot of devs say dont supercharge because they dont want to be showed up and scare their users lol
But hundreds of roms come supercharged anyway.
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Yeah its separate.
Alot of devs say dont supercharge because they dont want to be showed up and scare their users lol
But hundreds of roms come supercharged anyway.
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Thanks for answering!
So I'm going to try running only the bulletproof script without the supercharger script and set an app to be UNbillable.
Should I set it to run on startup!? I'm using custom ROM. The last revolution HD.
The init.d script would run automatically.
So you dont need to configure anything.
Whatever app is in the hitlist will get bulletptoofed soon after running the app.
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The init.d script would run automatically.
So you dont need to configure anything.
Whatever app is in the hitlist will get bulletptoofed soon after running the app.
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I am trying to get this configured. But I only want to run the bulletproof script, not the 99SuperCharger script. I just want to keep my rom's memory settings, cause I am OK with them.
But both of the scripts (99SuperCharger and bulletproof) are going to reside in the init.d folder of my custom rom. So they will both be started, aren't they?
How can I make only bulletproof script run at boot. Should I just delete 99SuperCharger from init.d?
I'm using Autokiller to keep my phone a bit snappier since I have a low amount of memory. However, at times it kills processes that should stay open (namely: the phone and messages apps, which I have to open several times in a row because it closes them right after I open them). I have found that setting the oom value of these processes low (-17, foreground, ignored) in Autokiller helps, but the problem is that these values always keep reverting back to original after some time. Is there a way to permanently set lower oom values for processes either using Autokiller or some other way?
have you found a fix?
I'm wondering the same thing. Have you figured out a way to do it? Autokiller keeps killing Dr web on me.
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I'm using Autokiller to keep my phone a bit snappier since I have a low amount of memory. However, at times it kills processes that should stay open (namely: the phone and messages apps, which I have to open several times in a row because it closes them right after I open them). I have found that setting the oom value of these processes low (-17, foreground, ignored) in Autokiller helps, but the problem is that these values always keep reverting back to original after some time. Is there a way to permanently set lower oom values for processes either using Autokiller or some other way?
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As long as your device is rooted you can use Auto Memory Manager from the market.
Its a free app and can set OOM values and priority for programs
But a weird of warning, never set a large program like HTC Sense or whatever to -17 unless you have lots of RAM.
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Supercharger is the way to go if you ask me. Memory manager apps I've seen seem to act more like task killers, does more harm than good. Supercharger allows you to change the oom settings, and the priority settings that certain apps get. I think it requires root, but then again ANY app that is going to actually do what you want is going to require root. I would give it a try, every single person I have recommended it to has thanked me after.
Silentbtdeadly said:
Supercharger is the way to go if you ask me. Memory manager apps I've seen seem to act more like task killers, does more harm than good. Supercharger allows you to change the oom settings, and the priority settings that certain apps get. I think it requires root, but then again ANY app that is going to actually do what you want is going to require root. I would give it a try, every single person I have recommended it to has thanked me after.
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I have used this too, but it isn't very n00b friendly, it works extremely well however but I would like to add, you shouldn't use the highest settings in supercharger unless you have a high end phone, the OOMs on the top settings are ridiculously high...
Tigermoto said:
I have used this too, but it isn't very n00b friendly, it works extremely well however but I would like to add, you shouldn't use the highest settings in supercharger unless you have a high end phone, the OOMs on the top settings are ridiculously high...
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Yea, my amaze has over 800mb of ram, and the highest setting ate that up real quick.. but the lower values were pretty good for my old vibrant which only had 343mb of ram.
I thought the instructions weren't too complicated, thought the length of the post should scare off anyone who isn't too sure of themselves.. the main thing someone could do wrong is set it as run at boot in script manager. As long as they just follow the prompts once they run the script, they should be able to experiment without risking any damage to their phone.
If anyone has any problems, that thread has most of the answers in it, the people are willing to give advice, and worst case scenario I could try to help if anyone has any issues. If you are capable of rooting your phone(outside one click root solutions), you are more than likely safe following the instructions in that thread.
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Hi!
I have tried various task managers from play store. They all show either nothing or just few app. Mostly they dont even display stuff that is running such as Firefox.
Sofar the only task manager that works for me is:
Code:
su -
top
But the problem is that it my phone has so many processes working that they dont all fit in one screen, and since top command is constantly updating, it scrolls back down. So I have to Ctrl - C to interrupt and then write kill -9 pid which is a bit annoying.
Is there any simple task manager out there that is graphical version of top command and that shows me absolutely everything, not only stuff that is currently active? To me it's important to see cpu usage next to pid.
sysctl said:
Hi!
I have tried various task managers from play store. They all show either nothing or just few app. Mostly they dont even display stuff that is running such as Firefox.
Sofar the only task manager that works for me is:
Code:
su -
top
But the problem is that it my phone has so many processes working that they dont all fit in one screen, and since top command is constantly updating, it scrolls back down. So I have to Ctrl - C to interrupt and then write kill -9 pid which is a bit annoying.
Is there any simple task manager out there that is graphical version of top command and that shows me absolutely everything, not only stuff that is currently active? To me it's important to see cpu usage next to pid.
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No, task managers are crap, the native task killer that android has built in works fine. 3rd party task killers actually make the device work harder because they constantly reload the tasks that you kill.
Best option is root your device then uninstall unnecessary system apps, and use Greenify to freeze your other apps when they aren't in use.
All task managers, RAM savers, optimizers and battery savers are all junk, they actually do the opposite of what you think they do.
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Dunno how with Android, but actually the 'top' command can be configurated to di what you want. Just read the top man page.
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Clean Master is a good one. I got it mainly for it's ability to clear junk files, but the ram boosting ability is handy as well every now and then. It also has a mode that let's you launch games in "boosted" mode, which I think is just a clearing a ram when launching the game. Not sure if it maintains that or just just does a task kill at launch. Killed apps can often just restart soon after. Incidentally, I do that a lot for Iron Man 3.
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Clean Master is a good one. I got it mainly for it's ability to clear junk files, but the ram boosting ability is handy as well every now and then. It also has a mode that let's you launch games in "boosted" mode, which I think is just a clearing a ram when launching the game. Not sure if it maintains that or just just does a task kill at launch. Killed apps can often just restart soon after. Incidentally, I do that a lot for Iron Man 3.
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No, Cleanmaster is not a good one, none of the task killer/RAM optimizer apps are "good" they are actually counterproductive and make your device work harder in the long run.
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Instead of using a task manager that will probably not work, try Kernel Adiutor and try setting the Low Memory Killer to your wishes, following this guide.