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A Few Noob Questions

Hello,
I am a new AT&T Fuze owner and new in general to Windows Mobile "Professional". (Had a Symbian 60 Device Previously) I have been doing extensive reading and researching to figure out how to accomplish my goals but I keep running into dead ends. I have been searching forums and Google but I find that most information is formatted for people that have been in the community for a long time and understand all of the jargon. There seems to be so many flavors of windows and platforms that it makes my head spin and I also find that words like Smartphone, Pocket PC, Window CE, etc.. are thrown around very loosely.
Sorry for the preamble. Here is what I know so far.
Device = AT&T Fuze
CE OS 5.2.19971 (Build 19971.1.2.6)
CID = HTC_P4600 (Not listed in the WIKI here)
ROM = 1.95.502..5 WWE (10/20/08)
Radio = 1.02.25.32
Protocol = 52.39c.25.22h
First I was wondering if there was a positive way of knowing if a certain piece of software will work with my device and what that spec would be. Like does it go by windows version, phone version, both? Or at least some general rules of thumb what to take note of before trying a piece of software. (If it was designed for or works on other flavors of Raphael is it safe to try?)
My biggest problem at the moment is I can't seem to install anything anymore. I am getting a message about unsigned cabs or files missing. I'm hoping this wasn't something I did but it's a possibility. Some software "PPCPimBackup.exe" will still install but most won't like "Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab". I even tried to make a simple .cab using CeRegEditor to adjust the city string for the weather tab in TF3D. Any help here would be most appreciated. I am very weary of all these so called "unlockers" out there and even read a thread here where someone bricked their device by installing the wrong software for the device.
Is the Fuze the same as the Diamond? (They look identical)
What is the preferred way to back up the entire device or is it even possible with standard software? Most of what I found backs up PIM info.
When a program (Taskmanager 3.1) says to minimize, where does it go? How do you bring it back to the foreground or do you have to install a taskbar manager?
I actually have more I want to ask but that probably wouldn't be prudent. I think if I could help myself better once I understand what software I can and can't use with my phone.
Many thanks in advance and apologize for noobing up your forum =P
Eidolen

I'll try to answer some of your questions.
1) Normally, software will say windows mobile 5 or 6 as a requirement along with maybe .Net Framework. If it's for Windows Mobile most likely it'll work. Just have to try it and see.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
3) The Fuze is similar to the Diamond but don't go trying to install ROMs that are made for the Diamond. Use the ones in the Raphael forums.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
Hope that helps somewhat.

Wow,
Thanks you for the quick and non condescending reply. I've been surfing more since I posted and hopefully I could get you to elaborate on a few things.
2) Your programs are probably not installing because you may not have the required .Net Framework. I know Advance Config requires .Net Framework 3.5. So if you don't have it, install it. You can find it here or from Microsoft's website. You need the Windows CE or Compact version.
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I did the .Net install and it went without a hitch but still no joy. I noticed on the authors support forums that others are having the same problem but no clear solution has been posted. /Sigh
I was thinking I needed to follow a procedure similar to the one listed here where you have to install a certificate and make some policy changes in the registry but since I can't find any info specifically for the Fuze I haven't done anything yet other than download the certificate that was linked in that post.
I should mention I am not a complete computer illiterate, and am fully comfortable with the registry and even more advanced techniques if necessary. I should also mention that I don't plan on replacing my rom at all. Just want to keep it to basic reg hacks, software installs, and some theming once I get things working the way I want.
I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
4) If you want to backup your entire device, use a program such as Sprite Backup. This will make a full backup of entire system excluding ROM. However, if you want to do a restore, you need to make sure you have the same ROM installed, if not, it will create a lot of problems.
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Thanks, I will check this out. Sounds like exactly what I was looking for.
5) With TaskManager, when you minimize it just continues to run in the background. Program is still loaded and taking up memory/etc. Similar to when you minimize something in Windows. To bring it back, you can view the TaskManager and restore to foreground.
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I understand what you said but what I was trying to figure out is how to recall it from the background. It doesn't show up in the TF3D task list when it's minimized so I was wondering if you had to click on the task bar or do some certain trick to bring it to the fore-front. The ability to move between programs easily is my biggest gripe so far as I seem to have to open and close the keyboard, hit home or back a lot to move around. I would love the ability to hit some hot key or some secret spot on the screen to launch taskmanager and then I could use it to go to whatever program I wanted.
I have seen a few bugs in TM_3.1 that cause crashes, but it is an awesome program and hopefully the developer will keep working out the bugs. If there is another program you would recommend that accomplished the same type of functionality I'd be interested in trying it out.
Thanks again for your friendly help.
Eidolen
Just looked at the contents of that cab referenced from that link I posted. It is just a Setup.xml file with the following contents.
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="SecurityPolicy">
<parm name="4119" value="144"/>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>
Any thoughts?

As for .Net, the following is from Modaco, and I found that it worked like a charm:
How to install and use .NET Compact Framework 3.5
If you're a developer or have knowledge of .net Compact Framework, you'll be aware that version 3.5 has shipped. You'll be aware that it offers a number of enhancements in features, stability and performance, and you'll likely also know that it provides full backwards compatability with previous versions of the Compact Framework. What you may NOT know is that when CF 3.5 is installed on a device, applications that target previous versions of the Compact Framework will continue to run against the old versions, and 3.5 and previous versions will live side by side on the device. Only when new devices come along will we see ONLY 3.5 on a device.
This presents a number of problems, namely
• Users who deploy CF 3.5 to their device but use applications targeting older versions will not benefit from the 3.5 performance improvements
• Developers who develop apps for pre CF 3.5 frameworks cannot easily test their applications ready for when 3.5 only devices come along
Thankfully, help is at hand in the form of a little known Compact Framework 3.5 powertoy named '.Net Configuration'. The application, which is available at Microsoft, provides the user with full granularity of control over the .net CF on their device. You can see installed versions, change the used CF version for a particular application or change the used CF version for all applications run on your device! Perfect!
Sadly in Microsoft's infinite wisdom the application in question is tucked away in simple EXE inside the 6.2MB download and somewhat hard to find, so i've taken the liberty of packaging it up into a CAB here that installs it with it's own Start Menu shortcut.
- Run '.Net Configuration' from your Start Menu
- Navigate to the 'Device Policy' tab and select version 3.5
- Select 'Apply' then 'OK'
That's it, you're done!

Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
As I've stated I have not made any attempts to unlock anything yet but have installed some software and made some registry tweaks. I wish I could see what exactly is happening like Procmon does for windows to pinpoint the problem, but I might just have to resort to a hard reset if I can't figure it out.
I'm open to any ideas but if I don't figure it out tonight I guess I'll reset tomorrow. Thanks for the guidance and help.
Cheers,
Eidolen

@eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.

eidolen said:
Thanks kindly but I'm guessing now that myself or a piece of software I've installed has borked my ability to install software. It seems I can install exe files but no cabs, including the one you posted will install.
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eidolen said:
I did already change one registry policy key (0000101a) to "1" from a thread I found on these forums, as it is something easily changed back but of course it did not help.
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You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....

eidolen
You have a SD card?
Gimme some time and I write you a little 101 how to deal with the Fuze.
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I ordered my SD card yesterday =/ Hopefully be here soon. Still very interested in the 101 though!
You might want to double-check that registry hack to make sure it's correct. Seems like a big coincidence that the one registry hack you've made so far is to allow unsigned cabs to install and the biggest problem you seem to be having is that you can't get unsigned cabs to install....
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Yeah I gave that a shot but no joy. That wasn't the only reg hack I did but the only relating to "Unlocking". I haven't touched anything I wasn't pretty sure about. For instance I have looked at all the tweaks for speeding up the TF3D using cache setting but the numbers don't match so I never tried it. If I didn't understand what the tweak was I stayed away.
I did the PTT button tweak for voice/camera and played around with the cities for the weather app. Other than that I can't think of anything else I touched in the registry but I did a lot of looking.
On the other hand I have installed a good bit of software to try out. I have also rearranged my menu items by deleting shortcuts in the start menu folder. Even though I've done a good bit to the phone I think it might be best to start from scratch with a hard reset and start again with the knowledge I've gained in the past few days. My Opera browser has been getting a real workout with 40+ tabs going =P
I did find another thread here that has someone with a similar problem but the way it happened was entirely different. His fix was to wipe the phone and use the same software I was trying to install when I found this problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3038792#post3038792
I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
I can't believe how helpful everyone's been so far considering this is a developers board. I figured it was worth the risk to get chewed in the hopes of getting the best advice. With all the info surfing I've been doing it's clear that this is the site where it all happens.
Cheers and thanks again,
Eidolen

OMG!
I'm almost too afraid to admit it but at least I feel good that I figured it out on my own. I was smart enough to make a backup of the registry with CeRedEditor before doing anything major and remembered it had a compare feature. After loading it up It immediately occurred to me to look at HKCR\cabfile and that's where I found my answer.
I had downloaded a little free utility from SKTools called Cabinstaller that allows you to choose where programs get installed. Somehow the registry entry it made didn't correctly point to the executable. In any case I think I installed it late the other night and forgot about it because the exe files I installed after that installed fine. I should have tested it immediately and I wouldn't have had this problem. /sigh
Thank you everyone for the help and ideas and even though I've fixed this problem I still might do a full reset and start from scratch now that I got all mentally prepared to do it and start over feeling a little more confident in what I'm doing.
While it's on my mind right now and since I never got a solution for the question in my first post, is there a hack or small little program that will allow you to put a shortcut in either the top bar where the start menu is or in the bottom where the shortcut for the on screen keyboard is so I can invoke the Task Manager easily to help with navigating? I wouldn't even be opposed to a shortcut in the TF3D pop-up you get when clicking on the top right bar. It would be great if this could be done with a bloated program but not opposed to it if the program is useful.
Thanks again everyone. I guess I'll start a new post for any new questions. (I have lots but will try and figure out as much as I can by myself first.)
Cheers,
Eidolen

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I took ecltech's advice and got Sprite Backup and made a backup already. I would rather fix the problem but it sounds like it might be difficult tracking it down so I'm prepared to start again. What would be great is finding some guide or general direction in what programs and or tweaks I should install and in what order and any other pertinent information regarding starting from scratch. "The Must Have" utilities and programs.
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I think you're probably right about starting again from scratch. It would probably be less work than tracking down what's causing your problem and then you'll be starting with a cleaner slate for installing everything going forward.
There are a few different threads on here about what constitutes "must have" apps for the Fuze and the one thing I can say is that no two people agree on the list! Your best bet is to seach out those threads and see which ones you think would be most useful to you. A great place to get started is at http://www.blownfuze.org using username and password 'xda' (without the quotes)
My suggestions for the generic must haves are:
Total Commander
PHM Registry Editor (or whichever reg editor you prefer)
Diamond Tweak
Diamond TF3D Config
Other basic programs that might be worth checking out depending on what you do on your fuze are:
PocketShield or S2U2 for locking the phone
TCPMP Core Media Player
TorchButton for using the LED flash as a flashlight
BeyondPod or pRSS Reader for RSS feeds and podcasts
GoogleMaps and/or Live Search
Good luck!

Sprite backup is included in your Fuze as original software. I always keep a full backup copy on my Sd card of a good clean WM 6.1 install with all the must have tweaks done already. You will find it saves alot of headaches when you mess something up trying things out. After that I do a weekly backup as I add more and more stuff over time.

does diamond TF3D Config or diamond tweak work with this ROM version?

Thanks yzf750, I am preparing to do just that. I am getting prepared for a hard reset now once I notate what I want to keep that's on my phone already. Hopefully I can get it set up by the time my SD card arrives this coming week and can do the backup to it for keeps.
I read a blog post about doing a soft reset after a hard reset to prevent the ATT software from installing and I think I really want to try that. I just need to make sure I install the stuff I want to keep like TF3D manually afterwards. I'm hoping to find a more detailed guide for the procedure than what was posted though.
I'll post back and report if the smoke genie escapes or not.
Eidolen

some n00b guidance
Ok so i have been looking at these forums for a few days now doing homework before i even get the phone(its ordered). So my questions are
1. if i have AT&T unlock the phone(i know someone who works there so i hope they can help out) do i still need to do the hardspl to change radios etc?
2. Whats really the difference between all these roms built by users and just using BuildOS(im assuming this works on GSM phones and not just CDMA because its from PPC) to build your own ROM? and do most of these tweeks come prebuilt into these roms or do u still need to to other stuff? i.e reg tweaks etc, like i think it would be better for me to just build a rom with BuildOS with the apps i want etc and not keep flashing all the time
3. Is GPS still a problem for people?, i think ill just use tomtom or garmin and hope for the best as its not a huge concern. After looking around i guess its just a matter of finding the radio that works best for the individual, so anyone in the .US new england area have any recommendations of the best radio in the northeast like NYC area?
4. whats a good order to do this stuff?, i plan on using the phone for a couple days or so as stock just to get the general feel of the OS in general. then prolly flash the ROM with a custom BuildOS ROM(unless someone can provide the difference between BuildOS and say PROven ROM), then do w.e else needs to be done. ive seen the recommeded tweaks, just not sure if they still need to be done with a flashed ROM. not really looking for a game phone more office apps like RDP and irc etc, sys admin tools
Basically i think theres just a ton of info on here which is a good thing but im just getting started on Winmo although flashing etc dosent intimidate me so im eager to get started just a little unclear on some things and cant seem to find the answer just surfing, so any help or links to some stuff i might have missed is appreciated. Pretty much just want a smooth runnin ROM thats not stock of course, decent gps reception and the apps i want. thanks all

Look here, I made a little write-up for the basics using a stock ATT ROM. I ran this routine actually twice on my phone (ROM flashing junkie) so it should be fairly complete.
I have to note that, in most cases at least, I know what I do and can "recover" from a ROM flash within ~ 30 minutes, having all software, tweaks and contacts restored.
Regarding ROMs
That's an open can of worms with two next to it waiting. Read the threads and read the problems and decide later if you want to flash or not. If you are not used to WinMo phones it's perhaps better to hold back a week or two.
Some ROMs are built from original Raphael builts others are based on WinMo 6.1 but contain partially applications and tweaks from other HTC devices. The latest build # need not to be the best. For example RRE's ROM is based on the original ATT ROM and he created a really nice good performing ROM while other Chefs rip out first all guts and basics of a ROM (making it "naked") adding features and programs later. That's a more or less political discussion what's better and what's not and you have to decide yourself based on what you read and/or experience. For MY part I know Monx/HT from the Tilt times and always appreciated his work and speedy ROMs and he continued the same line on the Raphael/Fuze though it took him some time to come where he is right now.
As said all political in that regards, almost all ROMs out there ARE GOOD and have advantages in the one or the other area.
Tweaks
Yes the tweaks work even for a stock ATT ROM with ATT's TouchFlo/Manila (though I think it's plain ugly).
GPS
Again a difficult subject. For example the stock GPS (enabled or disabled assisted GPS settings) works kinda well with google maps BUT doesn't perform as expected with 3rd party GPS apps (TomTom, iGO). Keep in mind a lot came from other devices and for example iGO on the Tilt rocked down to the street number with no lag at all where the Fuze is doing more "guesstimating" than performing (compared to the Tilt).
Backup
Do a PIM backup once or twice a week and do a FULL backup once a week or if you installed new software after you confirm that you like it. If you wreck your phone for whatever reason AND you stay with the SAME ROM a full restore will work.

Just Wow!
That's an impressive piece of work there. I haven't stopped reading or poking around while I'm waiting for my SD card to get here and had quite some experience today. I did read the thread regarding doing a "Non-Bloat" Install and actually started to do it but stopped when I realized there still seems to be some residual bugs to the process. I figured for now even with the little bit of confidence I've gained I'd wait on that a little longer.
I did jot some info down while it was still "Bloat-Free" for anyone interested:
Bloatfree Services:
App Service APP1:
USSD APP8:
Push to Talk PTT0:
EnlargeStartMenuEMX0:
HTC IMS service IMS0:
STK Service AP15:
LargeTitleBar AP21:
HtcServices HSV2:
Keypad KBD1:
Bluetooth Audio Gateway BAG0:
Software Disable Dialog Service SDD0:
Sync Bluetooth Server ASV0:
Software Management Service SWM0:
Certificate Enroll Engine CES0:
SNApi SNA0:
DPT DPY0:
LAS LAS0:
Credential Manager CRD0:
Notify NFY0:
OBEX OBX0:
Bluetooth HID Loader BHL0:
SqmUpload SQM0:
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Bloatfree Processes:
NK.exe
RegistryCSPTool.exe
OperaPreL.exe
poutlook.exe
sapsettings.exe
opera9.exe
htcimssvc.exe
tmail.exe
cecmd.exe <--Total Commander
conmgr.exe
TaskMgr.exe <--duh
rapiclnt.exe
repllog.exe <--activesync
biotouch.exe
shell32.exe
QuickGPS.exe
VoiceCMD.exe
SIPGT_app.exe
services.exe
filesys.exe
gwes.exe
manilla.exe
device.exe
cprog.exe
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I forgot to check the memory and storage readings sadly but I figured this list could be checked against the full bloat version to see what processes and services could be killed. I figured I'd play with a full working install so if anything didn't work I would know it was from myself or software I installed instead of guessing if it was a side effect of the no bloat process. Also I could learn what the bloat was and strip it away.
Once I decided on Bloat I started a Log/Diary of everything I did for my own reference and thought it might be useful for troubleshooting later. Everything was going smooth until I decided to take on the behemoth named RealVGA.
Luckily I made a full Sprite backup previous to playing with it and am reinstalling that backup as I write this.
If there is one piece of advice I could give from the little knowledge I've gained so far is that most of the upper-end hacks/tweaks software that is available are living breathing complex entities and are not to be taken lightly. Each one needs to be thoroughly researched and understood before using unless you have an older device that has been supported for a long time. I find very little information on using most software regarding the Fuze even though it is very similar to other devices. Truth is, it is not identical which can make things hairy at times. Anyway the more you fail, the more you learn.
For other Fuze owners out there I'll post my personal log so you have an idea what programs I had trouble with and what I tried to do to resolve them. For sure I had huge problems with RealVGA as well as PocketCM and PocketCm Keyboard. It's a shame too as they all are outstanding upgrades.
Well I think I'll be ready for your tutorial when my card gets here so I will be sure to report back to let you know how it went. I already learned a lot just from reading it. For one I didn't know you could do anything over usb if you cancelled the ActiveSync. I just used that trick while restoring my phone and still haven't done a sync. I'm sure that guide will be a huge help to many like myself.
Huge Thanks!
Eidolen
PHP:

Diary of a Blown Fuze (Blown Attempt that is)
Just a stream of consisnous, sorry if some doesn't make sense
Log got more vebose as I went.
"Fresh Bloated Install"
Boot
Set Weather City
Configure WiFi
Calibrate G-Sensor
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Memory:
Storage======Program
Total 294.53 || Total 200.99
In Use 74.05 || In Use 70.93
Free 220.48 || Free 130.06
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Turn off Auto Backlight - Adjusted Settings
Removed Programs - I Play Jewel
Configured all settings under "All Settings" tab
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Having keyboard problems where it is unresponsive. Had to use on-screen KB
to write user information. Also had KB lag a few times afterwards but not
as severe.
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SYNC (Merged 89 file items)
Install NETCFSetupv35.msi
Install netcfcfg.cab
Install tcmdpocketarm.cab
Configured .Net to use 3.5
Installed Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab
Create Sprite Backup "Fresh Install" ACT3.3 not config yet
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Phone supplied Sprite backup software reported "backing up 85mb" but when finished
the file is only 144kb! Not sure what happened. Will try to initiate
a backup from the desktop software.
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Initiated Full Desktop Version backup "Fresh Install 2 FULL" 93.03M
Ended with file size of 60.3M
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Configure Advanced Config Tool:
User Interface ->
Horizontal Icon Spacing: 150
Vertical Icon Spacing: 140
Icon title font size: 8
Popup Menu Font Size: 800
Power Management ->
All either default or "Advised" setting if applicable
Screen ->
Show Orientation: Yes (default)
Keyboard Backlight Timeout: 15sec
Suggested Words: 3
Network ->
Device friendly Name: #####
Phone ->
Show All Call History: Yes
Call History Clean: Never
Show Battery Icon: Yes
Show Band: Yes
Bluetooth ->
BT Device Name: #####
GPS ->
Logfile Size: 32K
Internet Explorer ->
4 Way Navigation: Disabled
Clear Type: Enabled
Search Page: Google
Max Connections Per Server: 8
Messaging ->
SMS Delivery Notification: Yes
Use Unicode Support: Yes
Symc Sent Items: Yes
Show Roaming: Yes
Calendar ->
Show Lunar: Yes
Show Events in Week View: Yes
Camera ->
Capture Key Delay: Enabled
Key Delay: Enabled
HTC Animation ->
Volume: 90
HTC Camera Album ->
OK Button: Close
Misc:
Auto Daylight Savings Switch: Yes
Show Daylight Savings Notification: Yes
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Noticed lots of options missing from last time I used this program before the hard reset like more font sizes among other things>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Sprite Resore "PIM_2008-12-13.exe" PIM info Only
Contacts Restored but no TF3D settings were retained
(No contacts in TF3D, Messages, etc..)
Set up both email accounts
Set Up online AB LDAP
Adjusted Camera Settings
Copied My Pictures,Notes, Ringtones, PTT shortcuts and other "Files" back to device using Sprite Explorer File=2008-12-14.exe
Extracted "Browser Favorites" From Sprite Explorer /System Settings 2008-12-14.exe
Hand Edit Opera.ini
Transferred Some opera files (wand.dat, cookies, images) using Sprite Explorer 2008-12-14.exe
Transferred a pantload of s/w to be installed
Installed Diamond_TF3D_Config_Setup_v0.6.7.cab
(Made speed adjustments and removed Worldcard and "Unknown" TAB. Also "Unlocked" Noticed program launcher shows a ton of empty entries.)
Install ResPack128dpi.ARM.CAB
Install ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB
(Sprite backup crashed on reboot from ResPack96dpi.ARM.CAB)
InstallRealVGA_11.CAB
Install missing ipxxx.dll's and screen went black then rebooted
**** my Pants *chant* no-brick no-brick no-brick
Watched it reboot. Something crashed but then TF3D loaded with tiny fonts!! (128dpi)
Modified Menu Icon spacing for 4 in a row. (Want to tweak further if I keep RealVGA)
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HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\
Add New Key "IconConfig"
In there Add DWORD Value:
"HorizontalIconSpacing" Dec value="112"
"VerticalIconSpacing" Dec value="115"
"IconTitleFontSize" Dec value="6"
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Notice a small black band on TF3D screens at the bottom. Acts as part of the tabs
Total commander toggle icon bar does not fully open up.
Contact all people link does not work
Contacts from Start Menu does not Work
Phone does not work
Installed respack96outlookfix.cab and Changed to 96 DPI now contacts and phone works!!
Adding Contacts in TF3D very buggy, auto puts in a picture somehow and have to go back and change it.
NVM...It selects the pics I had assigned before the reset somehow. Cool!
On Screen Keyboards Very Borked (Only Partially Visiable) Trying PocketCM Keyboard for VGA *Crosses Fingers*
It works but no colors, just plain Gray *humph!*
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Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 25
V Scroll Width: 25
H Arrow Size: 32
V Arrow Size: 32
Icon Title Font Size: 16 (Was 6)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
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Reset
Home TF3D Screen buggy, Tabs at bottom are doubled up. Clears when used to scroll but large black bar at bottom now
Wow! TF3D Communtications screen is really toast! It shows in upper left screen and at least it works but it's almost unreadable.
Not noticing any change in fonts so far
"All Settings" Won't Launch. Ouch!
Umm, System Locked up hard
Tried sliding keyboard and heard sound and title bars appreared but no luck, home and back not work either
It let me reboot with switch at least, not reset button
Tried Unticking "Disable Skin" in RealVGA
Reboot
"All Settings" Still Borked
reboot
Start Menu -> settings locks up too *cry*
Reboot!
Maybe result of font settings in ACT?
Might be time to do a restore =(
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Config Fonts in Advanced config tool
UI ->
H Scroll Width: 19
V Scroll Width: 19
H Arrow Size: 20 (default)
V Arrow Size: 20 (default)
Icon Title Font Size: 10 (Was 16)
Menu Bar Font: Large
Popup Menu Font Size: Large
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Reboot
RealVGA is nice but not sure it's worth this effort. Just too many problems.
Noticed graphics in TF3D are much slower and laggy now as well.
"All Settings" still borked Not sure what else to try at this point.
Good info on this subject is hard to come by. Most ppl seem to have good luck with this app.
Went to re-tick the skin option in RealVGA but it was still ticked. hmmm
What I think is needed is an app that could swap resolutions on the fly with a hotkey. ( Prolly not technically possible)
At least you could have normal usage and only use for certain apps that really benefit from it.
After another reboot the "Disable phone skin" is checked again. Guess it can't be unticked.
Un-ticked "No enlarge title Bar" in Diamond TF3D Config
I am able to open the "Programs" link from the start menu, wonder why settings is screwed.
Tried settings again, no joy, was able to use home key though this time. Not locked up.
Start menu does not work now though. Yikes, had to use reset this time.
Throws arms in the air!
Hard Reset =(

You are funny eidolen.
If you want copy the files I provided to your device (since you don't have a DS yet) and play with it.
You'll hard reset anyway when the SD arrives - LOL

Your also going to find at some point that the more and more tweaks and modifications you make,more problems will start sufacing. I was a rom flashing junkie like many on this forum for 2 years. Since I replaced my prior phone with the Fuze I am running just the stock rom without bloatware and a FEW select tweaks (includes radio change). It runs fast, works good and I dont have to soft reset it all the time.
Take a look at every custom rom, Im not putting any of them down, but after time the threads on them become 100 plus pages long, the number of other fixes to get them running right become impossible to keep track of. It becomes a daily job of just trying to keep that rom working without breaking some other feature or getting it to work right. They put out weekly fixes on most custom roms. They start out with the right intention, but it soon becomes just a bloated non oem rom after time.
Its addicting and fun, but at some point a person just wants to use the phone instead of hard resetting it all the time, flashing roms nightly and trying to figure out how to fix stuff in each rom.
I reached that point now and my fuze is outstanding without having to spend days tinkering with it. It is snappy, reponsive and ALL the software I have installed on it works, and the GPS works flawlessly even inside my house.
But again, your "hands on" approch as your doing now, is probaly the best way to learn

teh bestest
between these last few posts and my little chat with our neighbors PPC on there irc channel i am pretty confident i know what the deal is now, you guys have been a great help, i think im going to play a bit with some roms of course but eventually land on a bloat free standard rom with some added apps like putty and irc etc for sysadmin work, on that note yzf750 could u tell me exactally what u have running on yours sounds like its what im looking for.

Raphael is brutally closing programs!

Raphael is brutally closing programs!
I really dunno why is this happening... I have 50% of RAM free and it lets me run just 3-4 programs together. When I run one more... it occasionally selects one thats previously ran and kills it silently... I really wouldn't like to "Clear Storage" from settings

I also had this problem when I first got my TP. It's a simple fix - you need to disable AutoKill. With a registry editor, go to HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager, and change the value of “EnableAutoKill” to “0".

^ yes this a good fix. I remember I couldnt switch between opera and replying to a text message, I felt like I was back to a feature phone, with one thing at a time capability.
There is also a registry tweak that instead of killing apps you can change the threshold at which the system starts auto-killing, same registry path.

You guys are amazing! THANK YOU! BUT... I still have the problem
Any other ideas?

You can refer to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426585
In the section of "Tips", there is a tweak which solved the problem perfectly

Thank you. Tried that caches tweak, it made whole system run much faster. But still - i cannot seem to get 4 proggies to run at the same time. Always the first dies... flip flop

This thread is turning into a copy of few others around here. Only this is new and alive.
Please help me out.
I've tried:
1) The HTC Task Manager registry tweaks
2) The cache sizes maximizing
and...
3)?
Maybe the ugly 32MB/32Process limit (http://msmobiles.com/F/viewtopic.php?p=36334&highlight=&sid=c6b5982e059ec35ce19fd3cd952bd683) is still present in WinMo6.1?

Hello!
OMFG! After disabling autokill my TP started to act almost like desktop in case of multitasking
I was able to run around 12 programs at a time, but i've also made changes to memorytreshold, the value i set was 173015040 (1.5 times the default value).
The funny thing was that TP was still responsive to commands and even opera ran smoothly when surfing throu light web pages.
First app closed after memory usage peeked around 65%, but the rest was still responsive.
Hope this helps
BHole

Thats my point. Same limit like 65% because I have customized my device with launchers, hardkey remapper, Wktask etc. Now I can have (only) five apps running at a time... Is there a sort of free RAM threshold inside the WM6 or HTC-s stock (1.9) ROM. Maybe it is still the 32 process limit from the old times?

Hello!
It looks like there is some kind of limit to number of proceses or memory used by them but if you customized your pda maybe you should disable some of the oryginal programs that are runing in the background. I saw some registry entries in taks manager that hid some of the runing aps maybe not all of them are nesesery for you and can be disabled to lower proces count.
BHole

Yeah.. but I would like to USE the RAM the device has.... I'd like to run manymany programs so the RAM load would be for example 95%. Why is not that possible?

Update internet explorer mobile?

First an foremost id like to complement all XDA-Dev staff for making such a helpfull forum.
next:
Im making a internet explorer mobile bizzness aplication for an industrial PDA
the motorola MC9090 with barcode integrated.
I allready made the aplication but tested it in a updated version of internet explorer.
My Q is: how can I update these 10 motorola machines with a newer updated version of internet explorer mobile without updating the whole windows mobile?!
Thankz in advance

never heard of any pocketpc inrom program like ie or wmp being updated by a cab

The easy way will just be to upgrade the roms, but you probably don't want to do that. I'm assuming they all have PIE 5. The newer versions of PIE are getting better (the initial PIE 6 betas were pretty bad, imo), but they're still quite beta in nature. I don't think you can use these, though, as they are built around WM 6.5. I suppose you could download a 6.1 kitchen with PIE 6 in it, then rec'mod (or whatever it's called) all of the PIE modules and make a cab file. I'm not sure it would work (pretty sure I couldn't get it to work, but someone else might be able to do it).
Long story short, it will be hard without flashing, and given that the new PIE's for 6.1 suck, I'm not sure it's worth it. I'd just go for a different browser, if you can use it. Check Meinnesys's browser review for a ton of info (he'll also say that PIE6 is crap, as I remember).

hmmmm maybe other browser then.
Yes that maybe right, Farmer Ted.
But, I've been searching and probably I will go for an opera browser or fennec.
This is a huge setback for development and if I use a proper browser the development time will be much shortened i just hope boss understands this.
Because he is pushing us to do it for pie. which makes no sense at as it is just a huge load of crap.
By the way is there a mobile browser that you recommend i take a look before deciding on opera or fennec?
Thanks for the reply and take care.

I personally use opera mini 4.2 v8 version. It's crazy fast, but may be too lite for business. Check out Iris, it's basically like PIE, but better.
I've never used Fennec, but from what I've read, it's very alpha. I'd suggest avoiding it for now.
Opera Mini and Skyfire both do their rendering on a proxy server, which makes them fast. I guess that security is lower in that scenario (although you can change the server in opera mini). They might be nice, though, for business because you could set up a single user account for all the devices, and if needed you could set up a library of bookmarks that everyone could access.
Iris is nice because it uses PIE's cookies (only browser I've found that does this), and it can import PIE bookmarks. You can set the Iris cache to the storage card as well in settings. (You can also do this with PIE, but it requires registry edits).
UCWEB6 is also fast (a little slower than opera mini), and you can import PIE bookmarks with it. It is also a light, mobile browser, and it does the rendering on your device, so I guess it's more secure than mini if less quick (in my experience).
I've been using Opera Beta 9.7 some recently. It is quite nice, and fits my tastes. I like browsers that quickly render pages in a single column. You can set it to do this, and it does so reliably. I don't care for the normal Opera, which renders pages beautifully like you see them on a desktop, but you have to futz around a ton to get it so you can read what's on there. This is all down to tastes, though, and a lot of people don't like the mobile-view. The beta version will work fine for you as long as you don't enable the 'Turbo' mode. Turbo mode is very beta, and it doesn't store cookies (or history, I believe). It's basically the same as Opera Mini, anyway, but not quite as fast.
If you find that none of the alternate browsers are suitable, I'd suggest making some registry tweaks to PIE to improve it. In particular, move the cache to the sd card, and also increase the # of connections or threads or whatever they call it-the tweaks are available in sk tools. Just max out all of them, and see if things work better.

Here is a cab that re-routes your cache to the storage card (it must be called storage card and not 'sd card'). It also sets the default download location to the sd card, increases the max connections per server to 8 and has a tweak to increase download rate. These are the actual keys:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]
"History"="\\Storage Card\\Temporary Internet Files\\History"
"Cookies"="\\Storage Card\\Temporary Internet Files\\Cookies"
"Cache"="\\Storage Card\\Temporary Internet Files\\Temporary Internet Files"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main\Default storage location]
"All Files"="\\Storage Card\\My Documents\\My Downloads"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main]
"ReadAllBytesThreshhold"=dword:00000400
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings]
"MaxConnectionsPerServer"=dword:00000008
You can also increase the cache size; here is the setting for 20,480 MB. For some reason, it's not sticking on my fuze, so I didn't include it in the cab:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\Cache\Content]
"CacheLimit"=dword:00005000
You need to soft reset after installing the cab. Oh, and I posted this with Iris (over my mobiler). It was kind of a pain in the butt, but do-able.
Edit: What the heck, the second cab increases the cache to 20 MB. Only install if you have the cache on the storage card. And soft reset after installing.

Verizon Tp2 user has a couple questions...

I have just recently got my Tp2 from verizon and have been playing with it for a few days now. I have been on this website for the past couple of days and have learned a few things to do with my new phone. The only thing Ive done so far is dl and install a HDWall wallpaper and skyfire for whenever I need flash. I have been looking around to maybe make a theme on Tp2 but making th tabs and clock translucent/transparent. From what I have found this isn't possible with my phone yet or if it is, it is buggy. Is this true or not? If not can someone point me in the right direction for me to get it on my phone. Next, I've noticed my phones memory is around %55-60. I was just wondering if this is normal? Does the HD wallpaper up the memory a lot? I know there is a program called cleanram that can help free up some memory, but will it do that much for me? I havent read into it fully yet but plan on it in the next couple of days. Thank you guys and gals for your time and patience.

I'd say that's just about normal. I only have a twitter app loaded in, and I do occasional browsing on opera when I'm out and about and I lock in at 68% or so. I think that the app is causing a memory leak, but no big.
I also found a good cleanup app on PPCGeeks that really sped up my TP2. I'm on verizon as well, and I'd recommend it. As to the transparent tabs, curtains and clocks, every one that I've installed has caused issues and I hope things get a little more stable in the next few weeks.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=84404
(thread for Touch Pro2 Cleanup)

kyle244948 said:
I have just recently got my Tp2 from verizon and have been playing with it for a few days now. I have been on this website for the past couple of days and have learned a few things to do with my new phone. The only thing Ive done so far is dl and install a HDWall wallpaper and skyfire for whenever I need flash. I have been looking around to maybe make a theme on Tp2 but making th tabs and clock translucent/transparent. From what I have found this isn't possible with my phone yet or if it is, it is buggy. Is this true or not? If not can someone point me in the right direction for me to get it on my phone. Next, I've noticed my phones memory is around %55-60. I was just wondering if this is normal? Does the HD wallpaper up the memory a lot? I know there is a program called cleanram that can help free up some memory, but will it do that much for me? I havent read into it fully yet but plan on it in the next couple of days. Thank you guys and gals for your time and patience.
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As far as your ram situation, that is normal with the stock TP2. Mine was also fresh out of the box and it showed the same percentage you have. You have to install a registry editor and go through the following process. (The cab for the registry editor is attached to this post)
Using your registry editor, navigate to “HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\ResProxy” and change “ShareMemSize” to 0. By the way, if you want Opera to show up in HTC’s task manager, go to “HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\ExclusiveList\System” and delete "Opera9.exe."
Now to avoid Opera from running on the startup. Use this registry tweak to close opera with Task manager
* Go to: HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\TerminateProcess
* There, create a DWORD with the name Opera9.exe value "1"
I learned through this forum that when you tap the X on opera or even close it through the menu options, it only minimizes it instead of actually closing it. This is to produce a faster page load whenever you open opera, thus appearing as if it loads fast. While its running in the background, its actually refreshing your favorite pages at set intervals to keep the content fresh so when you open opera, all the content of the page is already downloaded on your device. Unfortunately this comes at a cost of 2 things, ram, and battery life. Applying these tweaks is a matter of preference. You either choose a faster loading browser in opera, or more ram and battery life. I hope this helps. Enjoy.

Thanks for the reply..After posting this last night I did install the verizon tweeks cab and it has helped my memory drop tremendously (low-mid 40's) So thats nice. Thanks again for your input.

care to share it?

PRBajista said:
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Now to avoid Opera from running on the startup. Use this registry tweak to close opera with Task manager
* Go to: HKCU\Software\HTC\TaskManager\TerminateProcess
* There, create a DWORD with the name Opera9.exe value "1"
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Ok is it safe to assume that in the "TerminateProcess" folder of the registry, this is only allowing me to kill opera, not really stopping it from loading, right?

Sting32 said:
Ok is it safe to assume that in the "TerminateProcess" folder of the registry, this is only allowing me to kill opera, not really stopping it from loading, right?
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You are absolutely correct. But once you kill it, it will only load when you open it, and when you close it, it really closes. This registry edit only takes away the ability for Opera to "smart minimize" only and not close. When you apply that edit, it will actually close instead of "smart minimizing" all of the time. This option was only put in so opera is always refreshing your favorites keeping the content up to date so that when you "opened" Opera, it would appear to be a "faster" loading browser, but in essences it just keeps the content fresh in the background costing you battery life and ram. Hope this clears things up.

Ten random questions about my TP2.

These are things where I searched but I can't find good fixes. Maybe my searching skills suck
1. Is there a better [and free] torrent program than wmtorrent? Mine has some bug where the torrent never starts, it's just stuck in queue forever. I have to reinstall it to get a torrent going. Sometimes more than once. Also it's really clunky.
2. I was hoping assign my back key to some other function. I found the setting for assigning keys to programs but the only key I can bind is the call button. I got hbutton and it also offers nothing except the call button. I also found the registry key where buttons are listed and same problem. How can I do this?
3. Occasionally I get compressed EXE's instead of CAB files to install something. I hate having to find a PC to unzip them and then transfer the cab. Is there a program that unzips these?
4. Sometimes programs seem to overload the phone and I can't even shut it off anymore. If I keep wmtorrent going for a couple of hours, for example, or the skyfire browser. The hang up key doesn't respond and I have to pop the battery out. Is there any trick to avoid this? Some memory management app or something?
5. Opera mobile is clean and fast and handles some flash, but chokes on e.g. flash streaming video. Also it has a setting (stupidly hidden in opera:config) to report the user agent as a desktop browser, which should give me the full version of websites, right? But the websites aren't fooled. They still send me the mobile version. Skyfire handles flash better and seems to fool websites better, but see #4. Also the keyboard is retarded, it either isn't offered where it should be or it's some custom keyboard instead of my usual (swype). So... is there a better browser that does it all correctly? Anyone got a real fix for the opera user agent thing?
6. I saw a custom rom with a task manager built into the corner. You could close the app or switch. I think it was the psyke rom. I would like something like this but without installing a totally new ROM. Right now I use hang up --> Task Manager --> then double tap the program I want to switch to. Alternately is there something where X-ing out of a program totally kills the process instead of just bringing you back to home screen?
7. I install every single program to my storage card, but still have low memory in my main memory. I got a warning recently on it. I found a big 35 meg file in google maps cache, anywhere else I should look? There an app to deal with this?
8. What's the difference between the weather and animated wallpapers? Both of them seem to animate a little. I'm not seeing any weather info on my home screen and some of these wallpapers seem unrelated to weather. What do I do to get weather going and do I really need to keep my wallpapers all separated? Also is there a format for the animated wallpapers? Are these animated gifs or what? Where should I get more?
9. How can I organize the start menu better? All I can do is long tap icons and then move to top. But what if I just want to move it up a bit but not to the very top?
10. What do some of the icons at the top mean? I have right and left pointing arrows where my wireless notification would be, does that mean I'm getting data? I've got all my processes closed but I've been seeing it for an hour. What's the tall triangle icon mean?
Also, I never got this answered but I'll throw in #11 anyway: any good tricks to preserving battery life? I wake up and by lunchtime my phone is done. That's nuts.