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[APP] Backup the exact setup you are using

Why doesnt this exist? There have been many rom and kernel combinations that i have loved on my phone. I would love to be able to go back and use one on the fly by simply restoring. I know there are issues if you go from GB to Froyo and things like that, but anyone with a little sense already knows that. Nandroid is the closest option right now, but it doesnt restore my home layout or texts and calls. Surely this is possible. Id love to export a copy of my complete rom to my desktop as a flashable .zip for backup. Plus i like to back it up a few times a week to keep messages backed up.
If anyone wants to give this a shot Id gladly beta test it, and pay you some money for the app.
If this already exists then flame all you want, just be sure to post a link

Doing an advanced nandroid restore of data gets my phone back the way I set it up. Homescreens, texts, calls logs, its all there... Even after updating to GB from froyo.
Sometime there are permissions issues, but thats an easy fix.
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really? I just updated to ICS and id love to restore some of that or at least try. I know you can select different parts to restore under advanced. What individual pice do i need to restore to get back my messaged and things without compromising my system? I always just used the standard recovery with nandroid and then used MIUI to restore the other stuff. Guess i should have looked into it more

Just go to advanced restore, and restore DATA.
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[Q] Hotboots after installing too many apps?

Hello, I am hoping y'all can tell me if my phone is just bad hardware, or if this is normal. Since installing the update, I've had to factory reset my phone 4 times so far after something triggers hotboots. Every time I try to ID an app or it is involves the SD card, it turns out to not be related when installing the next time after a reset.
Today I installed all of my paid apps from the Google Market, many of my Amazon apps, and then moved everything to SD card without issue. After downloading so many apps, I'd use App2SD Pro to move them over in batches, and log the apps being moved or installed and if they triggered hotboots.
I then started grabbing the free apps that I could remember using from the Market, reboot, and still fine. When I felt I was nearly done and "safe", I decided to move the last 6 apps that could be moved over to my SD card. Upon rebooting, hotboots began. Uninstalling anything that even looks like it loads into memory automatically, plus those 6 apps, has not helped.
I am wondering if I am tripping some counter when I near/exceed 200 apps and that is triggering hotboots until I factory reset. Currently trying to uninstall more apps between hotboots in the hopes that will help. I am suspecting it is Gingerbread, as I did see this on a leaked build, and not on Froyo.
Those last 6 apps were nothing system related. Just NASA, Inotia 3, Kayak, Medieval Empires, Defender, and Elixir 2. Earlier it tripped after installing Android Assistant and Android System Info. Before that it tripped when I added the Amazon shopping, Student, MP3, and Pricewatch apps.
Why so many apps? Just testing some out to see what I like and don't like.
So, is my phone hosed or salvageable? The hardware has been great so far, just software issues under Froyo and I suspect the same with Gingerbread.
And is anyone else able to repeat this issue on their phone?

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Thank you Lufc, I totally spaced when I posted it in the wrong area.
Troubleshooting further (by selectively adding the 50 free apps I own from Amazon), the hotboots do indeed seem to be related to having around 200 apps installed.
Could anyone else please test this theory out and confirm/refute them from your experience?

Haha, I can't even think of having that many apps. what's the point of you installing that many? Do you actually use all of them?
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Nah, I really don't use most of them. I just want to see what is out there and test stuff out. Since uninstalling quite a few, I've been stable. Shame I have to uninstall anything when I still have plenty of storage and ram.

I'm having similar problems. Have around 200 apps I like. Not everyday, but occassional. In trying to build an EP4D system using stock or Infinity everything goes bad each time I exceed some fairly large number of app installs. The system is then too unstable to fix and I end up rebuilding.....

I have 195 apps on top of stock ep4d deodexed/debloated that I use a fair bit. I have been totally stable. I should admit that I froze a bunch of stock BS though.
Your hardware is probably fine. You could try stability test from the Market to see if you're hardware seems stable. I personally haven't had any problems with app-whoring so far.
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It's hard to get a total number of apps, but counting the bloatware and the number of icons under apps gives me a good approximation. I've been trying and testing, and each time the phone is perfectly fine and stable up until around the 200 mark. Odd that I see this under Gingerbread, but never under Froyo. I wonder if Gingerbread has some little known bug that we are hitting when run on our hardware.

I bet you something is borked that that is unrelated to actual number of apps.
What I would do is:
Install Titanium Backup.
Backup the apps you want. Don't backup stuff like that's included in your ROM of choice like Gmail since you can update that via Market. Just backup the stuff you know is not already installed and that you will want.
One thing that auto-updates no matter what I seem to do on stock/deoxed EP4D is Google books.
When you get all your backups then go ahead and nuke your phone. I suggest using CWM 4.0.1.4 to create a backup image in case you need to restore without having to set up your system.
Install whatever ROM/kernel/etc. you want.
Get Root.
Install Titanium Backup.
After everthing is booted, I usually let the Market update and let the couple few apps that the Market wants to update download.
When you are ready, run a Batch operation with Titanium Backup to restore all your apps. Its your choice whether you want to restore data as well.
Generally, I restore app + data because few of my apps have trouble restoring the data.
Run all your apps to make sure they work. Clear data on apps that don't work.
I suggest clearing data on the Market after you get all your apps working.
Freeze the crap that you don't want running.
See what happens.
I kid you not, I have no nearly 0 problems restoring over 190 apps with a batch operation.

Earlier today my phone, after 2.5 hours of heavy use, started turning itself off within minutes of being booted. Swapped battery, cleared cache, played with wifi settings and 4g, nothing worked. Reset the phone and all is well. Decided to only load apps I actually use, and will follow the steps in the post above later tonight.

xdadevnube said:
I bet you something is borked that that is unrelated to actual number of apps.
What I would do is:
Install Titanium Backup.....
I kid you not, I have no nearly 0 problems restoring over 190 apps with a batch operation.
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Not sure if it's related to number of apps or size of installed apps, but this is a real thing on EP4D. i'm having it happen on Stock, Debloated and Infinity. It occurs at just over 200 apps. Phone works great until one too many batch restores of 5-6 apps and then it will start hotbooting and become uncontrollable. Only thing to do is reinstall. Done it about 5 times now.
In order to get to 200 or so apps (at least the 200 I want), I always end up having to do some Apps2SD movements for Plants vs. Zombies, etc. I actually think the problem is related to that because I installed around 175, dropped all games (which is all I will move to SD) and then batch restored another couple of dozen and it appeared stable for as long as I left it.
Gonna go back, install debloated from scratch and install only what I gotta have. Just tired of messing with it.

I rooted and restored only the bare minimum of what I use, plus a few games. I just don't want to mess with it anymore. I did use Tom's guide to pull off some bloatware (backed up first) and will just leave the phone alone for now. I lose too many hours tweaking every damn program each time, logging in and tweaking settings lost its fun the 5th time I restored.
Applications now listed exactly 100 apps, and I don't want to fight with it anymore. At least not for now.
Kimmie, who thought I had broke it when I rooted last night and did not have data. Glad to see Verizon had a 12 hour or so outage then, and that my phone is fine.

I'm now at about 198 or 199 apps that I installed on EP4D deodexed/deloated using batch (app+data) on Titanium Backup and it works perfect.
Yikes, I wonder if a few more apps is going to put me over the edge.
In this case, I'm thinking you should get some logcats and see if anyone can give you any hints- unfortunately, I don't have much experience with reading logcats, but its worth a shot.

Again, don't know if it's exact number or some combo with how much has been moved to SD. Here's an AppBrain list of what I currently have working. I didn't look so I hope there's nothing TOO embarrassing in there .
I also own an Asus Transformer and here's the AppBrain list of what is on that machine. Obviously I'm basically just trying to make the two match up so I can do whatever I want regardless of which device I have with me.
Somewhere between the two lists is where I start getting the hot loops right after the machine gets to the desktop on a powerup.

For me it is the total number of apps, and not related to moving to SD. I tested this with smaller file size apps as our internal rom is gimped at barely over 1gb. I have Amazon's free app of the day to thank for a wide selection of apps to test.
Think it could be related to our CPU?

[Q] How do you go about setting your phone up after new ROM?

It seems like every time I set up a new ROM, it takes me forever to get everything set back up and I always miss something, contacts are missing, apps go all wonky... I used to backup all my apps and data, but a lot of the time the new ROM will download many of the apps I had, so when I restore the backup of my Apps, it screws everything all up.
So I guess my questions is... Whats the most sufficient, easiest, most thorough way of restoring all apps and whatnot on a new ROM?

For the basics use the market app to backup your sms to google cant remember what its called, backup your contacts to google (highly recommend) that way you will never loose them.
For apps i would only ever backup downloaded apps with titanium backup pro. System apps can be a pain in the ass to restore.
Other than that everything else is fairly easy...
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Hmm... Ive never gone about backing up SYSTEM apps, but like paid apps, that Ive bought and backed up, seem to get all jacked when I restore or reinstall them. Ive tried a few different methods of restoring my system and never get it to go smoothly. Didnt know if there was an easier way. Thanks for the info!

You might want to upon first boot of the new ROM, bypass initial setup with the tap corners trick, restore apps with Titanium, then resume the setup process. Market will see your apps as already having been installed and not bugger everything up.

Good idea! Hadnt thought of that. Will try with my next rom. Thanks! Anymore tips out there?

First thing I thought of was nandroid backup using clockworkmod on a rooted device. I have restored my phone countless times and everything restores exactly how it was.

sometime i got errors while restoring with CWM..
Titanium is still the recommended.

When I first started out, I actually had to make a list and check it off. Eventually, I found some apps that would cover those items (Titanium, etc), but still even with that I have to manually go in and do a few settings. MIUI ROMS have a backup program (I used MIUI on my HD2) and it seemed to do a decent job.

I usually keep a current back up of all apps from market(not system apps) made from my backup pro. Everything else gets a fresh start.
When I switch android versions ei, from gingerbread to ics, nothing gets restored, everything is a fresh install from market.
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Was it through CWM rom manager or manual recovery mode? I mean did you install a kernel that installed cwm or did you install rom manager? After a couple weeks walking around blind I figured out that flashing the right kernel gets cwm to work without problems.

Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol

Thanks for ALL the replies! Some stuff I hadnt thought of in here, and some stuff to try. If anyone else has any more info, please feel free to share. I have heard that restoring settings is asking for trouble, so luckily Im not too picky about those. I really only change the haptic feedback and stuff off the bat, anyway. It also sucks losing all my WiFi networks and having to have all my friends dig up their network passwords.
Anyway, gonna try out some of this stuff today as Im sick of the ROM I just flashed. Still waiting on MIUI getting that MMS workin

zelendel said:
Restoring system settings is a big no no. It is just asking for trouble as with each update the source code is changed and then you are restoring outdated settings that may or may not be there.
TIBU is still the main app restore program. As for restoring settings that is never advices. Well unless you like troubleshooting random errors lol
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I concur, system restores after updates, different roms etc are a nightmare lol. It might be a pain in the a$$ but i ALWAYS start afresh after each flash and never use the same data image lol

[Q] Titanium Backup

I've never used Titanium Backup before but I keep hearing that it's quite the amazing app. I was wondering what the best (safest) practice would be to use this if I'm going to be trying out new roms frequently.
Should I back up user apps or system or both? Or should I be even more selective? I'm just trying to be cautious because I don't want to back something up from one rom that would conflict with something from a different rom.

ginovva320 said:
I've never used Titanium Backup before but I keep hearing that it's quite the amazing app. I was wondering what the best (safest) practice would be to use this if I'm going to be trying out new roms frequently.
Should I back up user apps or system or both? Or should I be even more selective? I'm just trying to be cautious because I don't want to back something up from one rom that would conflict with something from a different rom.
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TB is an amazing app it makes flashing from rom to rom much easier bcuz you dont have to find and download all your apps over again...I use it after I flash each rom to restore my apps...also I seen where people run into conflict when restoring data so wat I do is just restore apps only each time after a fresh install of a rom....but diff get this app youll love it and it will save you countless time with your apps...

You only want to back up user apps, ad system apps can be modded or tweaked on custom roms. Also I have never had an issue restoring data to user apps.
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kleeman7 said:
You only want to back up user apps, ad system apps can be modded or tweaked on custom roms. Also I have never had an issue restoring data to user apps.
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Some apps are a little weird when you restore data after a wipe. For example, FriendCaster Pro's contact sync breaks and push notifications are a little wonky if I restore data.
But yeah, issues with other apps are few and far between in my experience.
Edit: Oh and I have mine backing up to Google Drive (or Dropbox if you prefer) after every scheduled action as long as I'm on wifi and plugged in. This is just in case I do an sdcard wipe for some reason and forget to back it up manually.

Thanks for all your answers! This should make flashing roms a lot more streamlined.

Synergy ROM/stock backup question

Im sorry Im posting in here but I do not have enough posts to post in the actually forum category, so hopefully someone can give me some insight. I decided to try the Synergy ROM r66. I liked it. It seemed fast but I installed it because it seemed like my phone was getting very hot on this ROM compared to my original stock. (This is my second Galaxy. My first one would operate normally for a few minutes and then everything would freeze up and a battery pull was the only way to fix it until the next time. But during all this the phone would get extremely hot-so you can see how I would get a little "panicky"). Anyway, I decided to go back to my backup I made, but the backup is not recognized by the Play store when I try to install apps through a web browser. Only the apps that were present on the Synergy ROM show up on "My Android Apps" on the Play Store. Is it because I did a data wipe/factory reset? Would a backup retain this information?
Sorry so wordy.
Thanks.

My suggestion...use CleanRom 2.1...I used Synergy and mine got hot with alot of lag going between apps and the homescreen. If you are interested..give it a try...im running it and its a very smooth and stable build.
You can find the Rom here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070

Thanks. I'll check it out.
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+1 on clean Rom
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grafixfr3ak said:
Im sorry Im posting in here but I do not have enough posts to post in the actually forum category, so hopefully someone can give me some insight. I decided to try the Synergy ROM r66. I liked it. It seemed fast but I installed it because it seemed like my phone was getting very hot on this ROM compared to my original stock. (This is my second Galaxy. My first one would operate normally for a few minutes and then everything would freeze up and a battery pull was the only way to fix it until the next time. But during all this the phone would get extremely hot-so you can see how I would get a little "panicky"). Anyway, I decided to go back to my backup I made, but the backup is not recognized by the Play store when I try to install apps through a web browser. Only the apps that were present on the Synergy ROM show up on "My Android Apps" on the Play Store. Is it because I did a data wipe/factory reset? Would a backup retain this information?
Sorry so wordy.
Thanks.
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Synergy comes with custom kernel built-in (Ziggy kernel). Its overclocked to 1.9 GHz as default after flash.
So if you have not changed CPU setting after flash that's probably why phone is hot. Its running at 1.9
Download System Tuner from the market and adjust you CPU frequency. Repost if problem persist.
....rule of thumb: always do a full wipe when changing to a different ROM (ie from cleanrom to synergy or vice versa)
Sent from a SYNERGIZED GalaxySIII

Now I will say this...CleanRom 2.1/CleanKenel 1.1 now comes stock @ 1.99 GHZ using SysemTuner app, that is also a default app with the kernel. You can customize your cpu freq, but if you run it at 1.99 and you put a heavy load on the cpu...it will heat up quickly. The cool thing about the SystemTuner app...it shows your cpu temp in real time.

grafixfr3ak said:
Im sorry Im posting in here but I do not have enough posts to post in the actually forum category, so hopefully someone can give me some insight. I decided to try the Synergy ROM r66. I liked it. It seemed fast but I installed it because it seemed like my phone was getting very hot on this ROM compared to my original stock. (This is my second Galaxy. My first one would operate normally for a few minutes and then everything would freeze up and a battery pull was the only way to fix it until the next time. But during all this the phone would get extremely hot-so you can see how I would get a little "panicky"). Anyway, I decided to go back to my backup I made, but the backup is not recognized by the Play store when I try to install apps through a web browser. Only the apps that were present on the Synergy ROM show up on "My Android Apps" on the Play Store. Is it because I did a data wipe/factory reset? Would a backup retain this information?
Sorry so wordy.
Thanks.
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The responses given in regards to the "hot phone" are great and offer good overclock info that some may not be aware of, but I think the main issue here is about where your apps are. Assuming that you were on stock rooted prior to flashing Synergy, did you do a full wipe prior to creating a nandroid backup or did you wipe first? All of your apps and their market links should be fully intact if you backed up your original rom PRIOR to a full wipe. If not, the direct market link to these apps would technically be lost on the device, and therefore auto install would not work, and the apps would not appear in the my apps (installed) section. Though they will be in the "all" section (swipe left) for you to dig through and manually install. I can't emphasize enough the power of Titanium backup! I suggest to anyone who roots to put this on first and learn how to use it!