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Inspire 4g Battery

After being with T-Mobile for 10 years, I finally had enough with their less-than-stellar data speeds and spotty coverage, and decided to switch over to AT&T (I know, they now own T-Mobile). Being a fan of HTC's build quality, choosing the Inspire 4g was a no brainer. After a few days of normal to moderate usage, I was left scratching my as to why they went with a 1250mAh battery on a 4g phone, touting a huge 4.3" screen. It didn't take long to realize the battery was under powered for such a large, powerful device. With normal to moderate usage, I was averaging 4 to 5 hours of battery life.
I power cycled the battery several times, hoping this would improve, but it did not. It's little brother, the HD2 also had an underpowered 1350mAh battery, which also yielded sub-par performance, with an average battery life of just 5 to 6 hours under normal to moderate usage. It's a real shame, because the build quality on these devices is fantastic. With a sleek design, aluminum bodies, and thick glass panels, the phone has a good balance, and feels great in the hand. Why they would use such an under powered battery is beyond me.
The other problem I noticed with the Inspire 4g is the off center placement of the glass panel. There is a slight gap in the upper right hand corner, that allows for dust and debris to appear behind the glass, which I find very frustrating. I thought perhaps I got a lemon, so I brought it to AT&T to exchange it for another one. The replacement also had an off centered glass panel, and had dust and debris behind the glass, fresh out of the box! Needless to say, I changed devices and went with the Motorola Atrix instead.
If HTC would invest in a larger, more powerful battery, and focus more attention on quality control, I'd be a lifetime fan. Aside from the plastic, rather cheap feel of the Atrix, I'm very satisfied with it's performance and battery life. It's a reasonable trade off, in my opinion. I'm hoping HTC listens to the feedback concerning the poor battery life and starts using adequate batteries in their higher end devices. When that happens, I will gladly switch back to an Android powered HTC device.

I am running stock ROM with the 1300mAh battery by Seidio and my standby time is better than it was on my Captivate running stock froyo.
When I'm at work, my phone is usually just sitting on my desk in idle mode (Gmail sync on only, wifi off, gps on (never really turn this off anyway). With the Captivate, at the end of the day, the phone would be at 75%.
With the Inspire, I am usually between 85-90% (this is from 7AM to 5PM)
I found my battery life to be better after doing a few power cycles and then a factory reset..
For the time being, I am keeping stock ROM - Simply because I don't have the time right now to root/flash etc.

With a decent kernel, the battery life is pretty vastly improved. Mine lasts 24 hours, with around 5 hours screen on time. No off center glass either. Both my lagtrix's were returned cause their just horrible. Inspire is faster stock, let alone with a rom/kernel. After some modding the inspire blows the atrix doors off pretty shamefully. The atrix will never be faster than it is now besides what MOTO does, and don't expect that to be much.(no chance for an optimized kernel, ever). If the inspire had even 1/4 the battery life it does now, id still choose it over the atrix(the phone can't even handle a live wallpaper without lagging, signed bootloader, no neon support, blur is garbage, pentile matrix screen sucks, etc)
Did you make your battery assessments with the inspire stock? Cause it gets much better battery, plus faster after some kernel work.

I don't think the problem is HTC... It's ATT. They want to gain market on Android phones. Did you realize that Inspire 4g its quite cheap compare with other smartphones? They want a powerful phone but with some drawbacks. I bet DHD has better battery life compare with inspire. just my 2cents

Yeah have fun with a garbage phone. You wont be able to flash any roms or kernels org anything. Have fun waiting on a update buddy's with that poor excuse of a ui. That bootloader wont be unlocked.
wrenchmonkey26 said:
After being with T-Mobile for 10 years, I finally had enough with their less-than-stellar data speeds and spotty coverage, and decided to switch over to AT&T (I know, they now own T-Mobile). Being a fan of HTC's build quality, choosing the Inspire 4g was a no brainer. After a few days of normal to moderate usage, I was left scratching my as to why they went with a 1250mAh battery on a 4g phone, touting a huge 4.3" screen. It didn't take long to realize the battery was under powered for such a large, powerful device. With normal to moderate usage, I was averaging 4 to 5 hours of battery life.
I power cycled the battery several times, hoping this would improve, but it did not. It's little brother, the HD2 also had an underpowered 1350mAh battery, which also yielded sub-par performance, with an average battery life of just 5 to 6 hours under normal to moderate usage. It's a real shame, because the build quality on these devices is fantastic. With a sleek design, aluminum bodies, and thick glass panels, the phone has a good balance, and feels great in the hand. Why they would use such an under powered battery is beyond me.
The other problem I noticed with the Inspire 4g is the off center placement of the glass panel. There is a slight gap in the upper right hand corner, that allows for dust and debris to appear behind the glass, which I find very frustrating. I thought perhaps I got a lemon, so I brought it to AT&T to exchange it for another one. The replacement also had an off centered glass panel, and had dust and debris behind the glass, fresh out of the box! Needless to say, I changed devices and went with the Motorola Atrix instead.
If HTC would invest in a larger, more powerful battery, and focus more attention on quality control, I'd be a lifetime fan. Aside from the plastic, rather cheap feel of the Atrix, I'm very satisfied with it's performance and battery life. It's a reasonable trade off, in my opinion. I'm hoping HTC listens to the feedback concerning the poor battery life and starts using adequate batteries in their higher end devices. When that happens, I will gladly switch back to an Android powered HTC device.
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Good Luck with that locked down Atrix... I don't get why you are here. You don't own an Inspire....I don't think ppl care that you didn't like it??
The Atrix forum is >>>>>>>>Thata way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=994 I know its kind of a ghost town.

tweaked said:
Good Luck with that locked down Atrix... I don't get why you are here. You don't own an Inspire....I don't think ppl care that you didn't like it??
The Atrix forum is >>>>>>>>Thata way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=994 I know its kind of a ghost town.
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You don't why I'm here? I've been a member since 2005 or so. If you re-read my post, you will see that I did own the Inspire. I love that phone but hate the battery life. I've owned just about every phone on the market and really like rooting and hacking. I'm really considering returning the Atrix for the Inspire again and just getti.g an extended battery. People on here are makiing a lkt of good points about the Atrix. For a dual core phone, it's not that fast at all. I hate that I can't unlock the bootloader and mess with it. I am def bringing the Atrix back for an Inspire. Screw this locked down BS.

so far battery life is better than my epic

Stock my battery life was better than my captivate. Àfter flashing a new kernel and using setcpu, my battery life is absolutely stellar. Loltrix.. Lolololllll
-Sent from my Galaxy Tab

wrenchmonkey26 said:
You don't why I'm here? I've been a member since 2005 or so. If you re-read my post, you will see that I did own the Inspire. I love that phone but hate the battery life. I've owned just about every phone on the market and really like rooting and hacking. I'm really considering returning the Atrix for the Inspire again and just getti.g an extended battery. People on here are makiing a lkt of good points about the Atrix. For a dual core phone, it's not that fast at all. I hate that I can't unlock the bootloader and mess with it. I am def bringing the Atrix back for an Inspire. Screw this locked down BS.
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Go for the Inspire. Trust us. You won't regret it once you get things going good.
I found myself extremely frustrated with the battery, moreso when I was running stock. I began to accept that my phone might always need to be near a power source incase I start to run low. Since then I've rooted, tried different roms, radios, kernels, etc. Right now I'm actually *hoping* it dies soon. I'm in the middle of re-calibrating the battery (essential for long lasting charges) and I'd like the phone to die tonight so I can charge it for work tomorrow
So far on this charge I have gotten 35 hours, and I'm down to 17%. JuiceDefender estimates about 6 hours of battery. I could probably kill it in an hour or so with GPS, but that is any smartphone. If I don't touch my phone, it would probably last until morning. I tend to only draw about 1% an hour in standby. Once the battery dies, I can recharge it to complete re-calibrating things and go back to charging when I please with much improved battery life.
My current setup is as shown in my signature. It does take a little knowledge and tweaking to get everything set to your liking, but part of the reason I got an android phone is so I could do just that. Coming from the iPhone 3G, totally unable to root or anything, I find this a massive improvement on things. Everything I've learned about this phone was here on XDA forums over a few weeks.
Give it some time and put your mind to learning how to make the phone work better and you will most certainly impressed. Personally I feel I couldn't have made a better choice for an AT&T phone. The only downside is that I used my upgrade to get the phone at $99 then saw it at best buy a few weeks later for $29.

I thought about it anx decided to return the Atrix and get the Inspire again. I called the store near my house and they are willing to exchange it. I'll have to pay tge$ 35 restocking fee, and I'm fine with that because they are also swappi.g out my cases and screen protectors too. Not a bad deal in my opinion. Thanks to everyone for your input, you helped me make my decision.

wrenchmonkey26 said:
You don't why I'm here? I've been a member since 2005 or so. If you re-read my post, you will see that I did own the Inspire. I love that phone but hate the battery life. I've owned just about every phone on the market and really like rooting and hacking. I'm really considering returning the Atrix for the Inspire again and just getti.g an extended battery. People on here are makiing a lkt of good points about the Atrix. For a dual core phone, it's not that fast at all. I hate that I can't unlock the bootloader and mess with it. I am def bringing the Atrix back for an Inspire. Screw this locked down BS.
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I had no Idea you were swayable.. Yer post seemed like some odd complaint for flame bait.

I would really look at rooting and romming your phone. I am currently experiencing MUCH better battery life on my Inspire than I was with my Atrix. I'm using LeeDroid's newest and SetCPU on the "Smartass" governer. My average battery life is ~38-48 hours with light to moderate use. I've been charging it every other night...

I just recently switched from the iphone 4 wanting something different.... well i picked up the htc inspire and man was i blown away but with only light use by lunch time i had less then %50 battery and that wasent gonna fly! It got to the point that i was considering bringing it back, i looked up battery issues and ALOT of people were saying to download "juice defender" from the market so i did and now, with the settings on "balanced" after 15 plus hrs of moderate use i have %35 battery.... im overly excited, hope this helps.

The battery life's bad? I must have missed the memo.
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its fine but i get 50% by 12 hours :[ anyone got good radio to use around texas? on cyanogen 7 btw

last two peeps
what roms are you running

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last two peeps
what roms are you running
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CM7.0.2 with LorDmod kernel and the pinky undervolt mod. It's in my sig.

Can't see sigs in xda app
helushune said:
CM7.0.2 with LorDmod kernel and the pinky undervolt mod. It's in my sig.
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sent from planet snarf

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Can't see sigs in xda app
sent from planet snarf
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You don't own a computer that you can check at a later time?
Anyway, it's CM7.0.2 with the LorDmod VrIO CFS kernel and Pinky Ultra Undervolt patch. The radio I'm using is 12.48.60.23P_26.08.04.07_M3.

Review Mugen Power 3600mah battery

Hey everyone ! I recently got an extended battery for my Sensation for around $90 as it was much needed to meet my usage !
I thought I would share the feedback with you guys !
Mugen Power is a 3rd party battery manufacturer, and is known for it's "extended" batteries. If you’re an owner of a high end Android phone you too are probably facing a very poor power backup with the stock batteries and that’s where extended batteries come into play.
Basically, Mugen promises something near double battery life with this extended battery life, let's see how this extended battery fairs.
Unboxing
This battery comes in a very small, compact and simple backing - it has a leaflet with the instructions and standard warnings, a back door and the extended battery itself.
Look and Feel
We already know the HTC Sensation is not a very thin device in itself, and by adding the Mugenextended battery and the battery door, it does get noticibly thick - but for double battery life which it promises, the thickness can be bared - at least for me !
One would think that this battery adds a significant ammount of weight to the phone, but on the contrary it does not add any weight which can be significantly felt.
It's also nice to know that the backdoor cover fits perfectly on to the Sensation, and the feel of the replacement cover is not different from the stock one
However, with the extended battery users with small hands will find it a little difficult to hold on the phone for long durations at a go, rest shall be fine.
Performance
The li-ion extended battery which we were provided was rated at 3600mAh which is more than double of the stock battery on the HTC Sensation which is 1560mAh, so was the battery life also double ? Let's find out.
I have been using the HTC Sensation for almost 2 months now and with moderate usage, casual browsing, push email and constant interactions along with a lot of IM and calls, it did last me around 11 hours or so with moderate usage.
But on days when I had heavy usage, with constant data transfers on wi-fi or 3G along with lot of media playback, games, calls and IM - going beynod 8 hours was a tough task for the Sensation.
Now I did spend a nine days on the Sensation with the Mugen Power extended battery, and yes, it works ! And works pretty well following are the figures :
Heavy Usage : 2 days
Moderate Usage : 3 days
Light usage : 5 days
Now let me describe my usage, my heavy I mean constant connectivity either via 3G or wi-fi, 5 email accounts with push email and mails coming in every hour or so on all 5, constant IM i.e. Google talk and Facebook chat, off and on internet browsing, around 40 pictures shot, around 3 hours of voice call, lots of media playback (songs) and even video streaming.
My moderate usage I mean, data connectivity on 2G and wi-fi, push email, selective IM, and 2-3 hours of voice call, with causal browsing and media playback.
Light usage is more like a few texts, some casual browsing and a few calls in a day, with hardly any data usage - more like constant standby.
Conclusion
The Mugen battery is a very good buy and lives up to it's promise of increased power backup. It is a must have for hardcore users and the people who travel a lot, regardless of their usage patterns.
One would however have to bare the slight increase in the thickness of the phone, but amazing amount of backup one gets is well worth it.
But, if you are a light user, and mostly have the phone on standby with a few calls a day, Mugen Power is not for you.
Also note that the HTC Sensation has been known for the "Death grip" issues - but don\t worry the added thickness or the replacement door on the Mugen extended battery does not affect the signal receiving capabilities of the HTC Sensation.
Overall, the battery lives up to the promise of double battery life and has left me much more mobile fearless about the phone battery finishing suddenly !

Is it worth it though? You can buy 2 Chichitec 1800mAh batteries for $40, or other brands like that through ebay

The replacement battery door doesn't look the same as the original battery door from what I can see. Can you post some pics of your phone for us to see

thunderskain said:
The replacement battery door doesn't look the same as the original battery door from what I can see. Can you post some pics of your phone for us to see
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You can watch this video to see how it looks
www.youtube.com/v/s6moi12ZL-4

The back cover is completely different than the original one... It feels cheap and it's not even on the same planet as the original cover.
Also the "8 MEGA PIXELS" mark under the camera is horrible. It's printed very bad and it feels like on fake chinese phones. The battery is awesome, but the cover sucks completely.

Just delivered. Very disappointed, though I have read negative impressions on this forum before... It decreases wifi strength up from 100% to 30%. When you're near wifi router it works fine (like in the video), but when you're 5 metres away from router it drops to 30%.
Does anyone know how to solve this problem? I understand, that their battery cover is extremely bad and doesn't allow to use wifi.. May be there are alternative battery covers for such battery?

galaktiker said:
Just delivered. Very disappointed, though I have read negative impressions on this forum before... It decreases wifi strength up from 100% to 30%. When you're near wifi router it works fine (like in the video), but when you're 5 metres away from router it drops to 30%.
Does anyone know how to solve this problem? I understand, that their battery cover is extremely bad and doesn't allow to use wifi.. May be there are alternative battery covers for such battery?
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Mugen has announced sometime ago on their Facebook that for the Sensation battery they have developed a new backcover that solves the signal issue. Contact them, they will replace it, they always do.

okishead said:
Mugen has announced sometime ago on their Facebook that for the Sensation battery they have developed a new backcover that solves the signal issue. Contact them, they will replace it, they always do.
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Please tell the date of the message.

Anyway I checked the latest messages in the group and didn't find any mentionings. Only hidden advetisement. If they really replace battery cover to a working one, it's good. But right now I DON'T RECOMMEND to buy it if wifi is important for you.

if you get a powerskin and an anker 1900mah battery, you get the same total size battery power, but also have the ability to remove the silicon case and/or turn off the second battery in the powerskin to be used at a later time, and for half the price of the mugen.

Mattcdillon said:
if you get a powerskin and an anker 1900mah battery, you get the same total size battery power, but also have the ability to remove the silicon case and/or turn off the second battery in the powerskin to be used at a later time, and for half the price of the mugen.
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I just wish powerskin redesigned it and got rid of the fin at the side...
otherwise I would have been rocking it.
stll, I think it's a better alternative to the mugen...

Mainspring said:
stll, I think it's a better alternative to the mugen...
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Mugen is not an alternative any more. No one wants to get Sensation without wifi and weak 3g, but with an extended battery. I am very angry...

Mainspring said:
I just wish powerskin redesigned it and got rid of the fin at the side...
otherwise I would have been rocking it.
stll, I think it's a better alternative to the mugen...
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a 1900mah battery is a better alternative than 3600mah? Imho, these are two completely different products that have different purposes. Btw, Mugen offers 1950mah battery as a slim battery alternative.

okishead said:
a 1900mah battery is a better alternative than 3600mah? Imho, these are two completely different products that have different purposes. Btw, Mugen offers 1950mah battery as a slim battery alternative.
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get a Anker or Evo 3D battery on top of the powerskin and you basically around the same amount of power as the Mugen.
plus you have the option of going slim with a higher capacity battery(anker/evo 3d) then stock 1520 mah and a gel case that comes with the powerskin.
on top of all that, it's about half the price... (powerskins around $40, Anker $10-15)
you tell me which one is a better alternative...

okishead said:
a 1900mah battery is a better alternative than 3600mah? Imho, these are two completely different products that have different purposes. Btw, Mugen offers 1950mah battery as a slim battery alternative.
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Isnt the 1900mah of the powerskin in addition to the stock battery? If this is the case it makes the two comparable in terms of capacity.

Mainspring said:
get a Anker or Evo 3D battery on top of the powerskin and you basically around the same amount of power as the Mugen.
plus you have the option of going slim with a higher capacity battery(anker/evo 3d) then stock 1520 mah and a gel case that comes with the powerskin.
on top of all that, it's about half the price... (powerskins around $40, Anker $10-15)
you tell me which one is a better alternative...
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I guess, Anker is really targeting people by selling cheap stuff. I have a phone that costs 700$ and you think that paying another 100$ for a quality battery is a problem? Sorry, I don't believe in 10$ batteries because I have used them in the past and I don't support this idea. 10$ price can only be achieved if a company is cutting budget on smth important.
This is a well known fact: who pays cheap always pays twice.

Product placement
Wow, the OP sounds like a product placement or marketing. It is nothing personal but I read so much comments on Mugen...that it sounds like a rip off.
For my taste your posting sounds a bit too perfect. Like loose 20 kg in just 2 weeks.
I got an Anker 1900 mh and it is perfect. 5 to 6 hours with navigation or 24 hours with moderate to heavy usage...on sense 3.5 - stock kernel. What else do you want....I mean you are not awake for 24 hours...every day...are you?
Just my 5 cents.

Byrana said:
Wow, the OP sounds like a product placement or marketing. It is nothing personal but I read so much comments on Mugen...that it sounds like a rip off.
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I'm sure
My experience. Wanna to be objective:
Positive
Battery works from 14 (high usage) to 25 (low usage) hours. It's very good in comparison with 5-7 hours from original battery.
Cover looks pretty good (in comparison with mugen cover for Desire).
Negative
Wifi and 3G/HDSPA problems
Phone started to turn off sometimes.
If new cover solves this problem I will post the information here. Mugen promised me to replace the cover.
P. S. Your Anker refused to deliver me the battery a long time ago. What's more - they don't have a 3600 mah battery like Mugen.

okishead said:
I guess, Anker is really targeting people by selling cheap stuff. I have a phone that costs 700$ and you think that paying another 100$ for a quality battery is a problem? Sorry, I don't believe in 10$ batteries because I have used them in the past and I don't support this idea. 10$ price can only be achieved if a company is cutting budget on smth important.
This is a well known fact: who pays cheap always pays twice.
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hey, if paying more makes you feel better, more power to you buddy.
I currently use the Evo 3D battery. I can add the powerskin and I'd have about the same amount of power as the Mugen...
and as a bonus I won't have wifi problems(talk about cutting corners eh?), have a silicon case to boot, AND I would still be paying less then the Mugen setup.
I won't loose any sleep over paying less for quality accessories for my phone.
and regarding the Anker battery... just look at the Anker thread. so many success stories... doesn't matter the low cost, long as it works... properly, which it seem to do.

Good review! Thanks!

Zero lemon 3000 mah battery

My zerolemon battery just came i today and i would just like to say that there is absolutely zero bulge. Works with all my cases. It does however take a little longer to charge. Il post screenshots of usage. Post yours too!!
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Guess you got the magic edition and magic phone too. Maybe zero lemon made your phone too instead of Samsung.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339060
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What's the need to be sarcastic? I own the battery so i would know that there is no noticeable bulk. Works with my neo hybrid and otterbox commuter. Im also posting pictures later. And by the way, my phone was made by Samsung not zero Lemon.
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GnexusPro said:
What's the need to be sarcastic? I obatteries in today ttery so i would know that there is no noticeable bulk. Works with my neo hybrid and otterbox commuter. Im also posting pictures later. And by the way, my phone was made by Samsung not zero Lemon.
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By all means, please continue with the pics. I should have my batteries in today hopefully. Never do the expedited shipping with them, it comes just as fast as the regular. I feel stupid for not listening to you guys hahaha

Haha yeah i was pretty surprised with the shipping rates. It was only 69 cents and it took about 4 days to come in. I think youll like it. The reason why people complain about the bulge probably has the s4 on a different carrier. I have verizon and its fine.
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I own two of them and was very disappointed I also did a review in the other thread. And if you are following it people are doing scientific analysis of the batteries over stock as welonas physical reviews. And you will see there is little to no gain over stock. Plus you lose NFC and cause an ugly bulge in the back. If you read my review you will see see hat both batteries caused bulge
Hmm what are the chances right! Unless this is a fact! These batteries are lemons and going against the companies mission statement and that's what pisses me off. And these people that are sitting here in denial trying to validate there purchase so they don't feel jipped is comical at best.
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cas8180 said:
I own two of them and was very disappointed I also did a review in the other thread. And if you are following it people are doing scientific analysis of the batteries over stock as welonas physical reviews. And you will see there is little to no gain over stock. Plus you lose NFC and cause an ugly bulge in the back. If you read my review you will see see hat both batteries caused bulge
Hmm what are the chances right! Unless this is a fact! These batteries are lemons and going against the companies mission statement and that's what pisses me off. And these people that are sitting here in denial trying to validate there purchase so they don't feel jipped is comical at best.
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I was gonna buy this battery, looked kinda neat. But reading these reviews, I think I'll pass..

soulzero said:
I was gonna buy this battery, looked kinda neat. But reading these reviews, I think I'll pass..
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Ya another guy just posted a mini review and his experience is more or less the same as what the rest of us are reporting...
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Good to hear GnexusPro. Mine also had no bulges with pictures to prove so. I can say from personal experiece I'm getting more battery life, but It cant be considered in reviewing the product as everyone uses their phone differently.

I just got mine. Had to remove the battery label to get it to fit under the standard cover. We'll see what performance is like, not expecting much at this point.

Definitely some interesting reviews . Not quite sure what to think yet besides that its an ok spare battery . The way i use it is i just swap my 2 batteries out so i never really need my phone on the charger . I just finished my first cycle and i noticed that the last 10 percent lasted me a LONGG time. Anyway here are the screenshots from the first cycle. Keep in mind that i was at work today amd didnt charge for a night. I'll pay more screenshots after 5cycles
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I'm really beginning to feel that there must be some individuals posting inside these Zerolemon threads that are from the competition side. I say this because I finally got my 3000mah Zerolemon today and I don't have any bulging issues.
I was getting anxious reading all the negative impressions and reviews, feeling fully ready to return the Zerolemon and just buy the OEM battery and charging kit with my 50% coupon.
And to make it worse, my delivery was behind schedule and I only got the battery today (I was supposed to get it on the 5th).
To my pleasant surprise, the battery went in just fine with the sticker intact and the cover snapped on with no bulge. Just to make sure my tactile ability and vision was working correctly, I even had my wifey and mom examine the phone without telling them I had a non-OEM battery inside. Neither of them detected or felt any bulges.
It was, however, more difficult to seat the battery in compared to oem, especially the lower-left corner. I expected super-snugness but it wasnt as tight and bad as I expected. In fact, I had a harder time fitting in the 7500mah battery when I tried to install it for the first time.
I dont know why I'm not experiencing the bulging problems as others. My phone was one of the first batches that went out during the preorder period. Even my 3000mah Zerolemon battery must be one of the first batches because I placed my order for it the day the battery became available and it was shipped out the very next day (although I received my battery so late compared to others).
I do have one theory, though, as to why I may not be affected. Maybe it's because when Zerolemon assembled my particular battery unit, they tightly and flushly wrapped the sticker around the battery, enabling smooth installation.
I'm not saying that all the people who are complaining about the bulging problem are liars and paid-off people. But I have a hunch that we do have some of that type of people mixed in here. And I dont think it's a far fetched idea. After all, the aftermarket battery market is a big and lucrative one and I'm sure there are some desperate and deceitful business people out there trying hard to muck up the competition by spreading FUD to promote themselves.
Anyhow, enough about that and now it's time to see if this battery offers some improvement over the OEM.

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I'm really beginning to feel that there must be some individuals posting inside these Zerolemon threads that are from the competition side. I say this because I finally got my 3000mah Zerolemon today and I don't have any bulging issues.
I was getting anxious reading all the negative impressions and reviews, feeling fully ready to return the Zerolemon and just buy the OEM battery and charging kit with my 50% coupon.
And to make it worse, my delivery was behind schedule and I only got the battery today (I was supposed to get it on the 5th).
To my pleasant surprise, the battery went in just fine with the sticker intact and the cover snapped on with no bulge. Just to make sure my tactile ability and vision was working correctly, I even had my wifey and mom examine the phone without telling them I had a non-OEM battery inside. Neither of them detected or felt any bulges.
It was, however, more difficult to seat the battery in compared to oem, especially the lower-left corner. I expected super-snugness but it wasnt as tight and bad as I expected. In fact, I had a harder time fitting in the 7500mah battery when I tried to install it for the first time.
I dont know why I'm not experiencing the bulging problems as others. My phone was one of the first batches that went out during the preorder period. Even my 3000mah Zerolemon battery must be one of the first batches because I placed my order for it the day the battery became available and it was shipped out the very next day (although I received my battery so late compared to others).
I do have one theory, though, as to why I may not be affected. Maybe it's because when Zerolemon assembled my particular battery unit, they tightly and flushly wrapped the sticker around the battery, enabling smooth installation.
I'm not saying that all the people who are complaining about the bulging problem are liars and paid-off people. But I have a hunch that we do have some of that type of people mixed in here. And I dont think it's a far fetched idea. After all, the aftermarket battery market is a big and lucrative one and I'm sure there are some desperate and deceitful business people out there trying hard to muck up the competition by spreading FUD to promote themselves.
Anyhow, enough about that and now it's time to see if this battery offers some improvement over the OEM.
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You got it figured out this is Jesse Ventura and your on conspiracy theories
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Didn't get mine today.... Hopefully tomorrow so I can do some testing on my only day off. I'll be sure to post a mini review and hopefully I get them without a bulge. If anything I'll be going with stock with the 50%

Yeah I've been waiting till it goes to 0. I'm on second cycle now
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Yeah. Couldnt agree more. I have no bulge..make sure to let it die to 0 then charge up to 100 multiple times
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I think I had a little over 2.5 hours of screen time here. I love this battery. It easily gets me through the day without having to worry about car chargers, etc. I would definitely recommend this to anyone not looking to add the bulge of the big daddy they sell .
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Good to hear. Also looks like you have verizon s4 like me. It seems like the people with the verizon model are having no bulge issues.
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Craigerz said:
I think I had a little over 2.5 hours of screen time here. I love this battery. It easily gets me through the day without having to worry about car chargers, etc. I would definitely recommend this to anyone not looking to add the bulge of the big daddy they sell .
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Nice results. 400mAH isn't alot, but i think it helps for the people that don't stare at their phone 6-8hrs a day. Times where I'd usually be at 20% im now at 40-50% now.

First full day was a nice surprise. I got 19 hours (2 hours screen-on time) to 20% remaining, whereas I usually get to 14 hours with the same usage. Everyone's usage patterns are different so I wouldn't focus on the absolute # of hours but rather just the lift from the stock battery. Definitely worth the $12 from Amazon.

Standard fit / high capacity battery

Do any exist, which are safe and reliable?
On previous notes, I bought a slightly higher capacity Mugen but can't find any for the note 4 (in the UK).
My phone is now 9 to 10 months old and the battery is tiring (I think). Maybe a refresh is due. I can imagine the higher speed charging kills them off sooner too. ANOTHER good reason why the Note 5 should have a removable battery. A a built in battery will be performing under par in no time.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3158111
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3158111
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thanks I just saw that.
How much extra juice do you get from normal charging?

So 4 months later, how are the batterys holding up?
My OEM battery seems to not be holding juice long enough and I'm looking for a replacement.

Yes, I want to know as well. Facing same issue as OP.

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Yes, I want to know as well. Facing same issue as OP.
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I hope you find what you're looking for... I am hooked on high capacity batts, and now even the little handed wife can handle a Hyperion 8000 batt with TPU case easily- they're not as brick-like as the zerolemon. Bought a new 8000 and a case for a total of 38 bucks with free shipping on amazon yesterday.
But everyone has their own way of wanting things- hope it works out. If it doesn't, though, I'll offer that it really doesn't take long to adapt to the Hyperion type with it's case. That same case works with the Anker 6400 too. Both have been great performers for me.
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steven.rn said:
I hope you find what you're looking for... I am hooked on high capacity batts, and now even the little handed wife can handle a Hyperion 8000 batt with TPU case easily- they're not as brick-like as the zerolemon. Bought a new 8000 and a case for a total of 38 bucks with free shipping on amazon yesterday.
But everyone has their own way of wanting things- hope it works out. If it doesn't, though, I'll offer that it really doesn't take long to adapt to the Hyperion type with it's case. That same case works with the Anker 6400 too. Both have been great performers for me.
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Steve RN
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Thanks for your input. I'm more inclined towards the standard fit because of the accessories I already have: the car support, the cases, etc.. An oversize higher capacity battery would imply further investment in other stuff, while a standard fit would just (hopefully) improve a little on the OEM battery. If any of the batteries mentioned can fit the original samsung car windshield support I'd consider them a an option.

I just received this one today and so far it seems pretty good. Same size as OEM but it took noticeably longer to charge so the extra capacity seems legit. I had a Deep Stretch for my Sensation back in the day and it was great, so we'll see after a few days how this one performs in the ol' note 4.

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I just received this one today and so far it seems pretty good. Same size as OEM but it took noticeably longer to charge so the extra capacity seems legit. I had a Deep Stretch for my Sensation back in the day and it was great, so we'll see after a few days how this one performs in the ol' note 4.
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I saw that battery, but passed it up due to the blurry photo (and the battery looks in the photos like it's a cheap battery with a sticker on it) and the generic reviews (as if the seller may have made a few of them). It just all looked like a cheap battery to me.
Let us know how it performs. Longer charging time may not indicate a bigger battery, especially if the battery really is a cheap Chinese battery or something.
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spexwood said:
I saw that battery, but passed it up due to the blurry photo (and the battery looks in the photos like it's a cheap battery with a sticker on it) and the generic reviews (as if the seller may have made a few of them). It just all looked like a cheap battery to me.
Let us know how it performs. Longer charging time may not indicate a bigger battery, especially if the battery really is a cheap Chinese battery or something.
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OK so after a couple days with this battery I can say that it's good. The more I use it the better it seems to get too, on the first day it was roughly the same as my stock battery but today it's lasting a lot longer. I am getting a noticeable bump in overall life, ending my day with about 30% more juice left than I normally do.
Deep Stretch is legit, like I mentioned before I had one of their batteries a few years ago with my Sensation and it gave me noticeably more life as well. These aren't good if you're wanting a major increase in battery life, but they're great just to get your phone comfortably through a day of moderately heavy use without having to bulk it up.

kabuk1 said:
OK so after a couple days with this battery I can say that it's good. The more I use it the better it seems to get too, on the first day it was roughly the same as my stock battery but today it's lasting a lot longer. I am getting a noticeable bump in overall life, ending my day with about 30% more juice left than I normally do.
Deep Stretch is legit, like I mentioned before I had one of their batteries a few years ago with my Sensation and it gave me noticeably more life as well. These aren't good if you're wanting a major increase in battery life, but they're great just to get your phone comfortably through a day of moderately heavy use without having to bulk it up.
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This battery uses new technology? How could they made a same size but much higher capacity comparing to stock one? Could you post your onscreen time with this battery?

I am always skeptical about batteries that claim higher capacity while not being physically larger. Not saying these are bad but for I wouldn't buy it for the bigger number on the package. Personally, I tend to go with OEM batteries, bought with retail packaging from a reputable seller. Sure these are too expensive for what they are, but at least, I know what I am getting.
It is worth noting that li-ion/li-po batteries degrade slowly over time. So when you change your year-old battery for a new one, you are very likely to notice an improvement, even if you replaced it with the exact same model.

kabuk1 said:
OK so after a couple days with this battery I can say that it's good. The more I use it the better it seems to get too, on the first day it was roughly the same as my stock battery but today it's lasting a lot longer. I am getting a noticeable bump in overall life, ending my day with about 30% more juice left than I normally do.
Deep Stretch is legit, like I mentioned before I had one of their batteries a few years ago with my Sensation and it gave me noticeably more life as well. These aren't good if you're wanting a major increase in battery life, but they're great just to get your phone comfortably through a day of moderately heavy use without having to bulk it up.
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Now that you have it a few more days how is it going? I'm also interested in purchasing a standard fit battery.

arvylas said:
Now that you have it a few more days how is it going? I'm also interested in purchasing a standard fit battery.
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I ended up getting a v10 the other day, but I did use the battery for about 2 weeks and it definitely did give me a noticeable bump in overall life. For $25 I would say go for it.

First Impressions of the a9

Alright....first off this is 100% opinion and my specific experience so yours may be different. I doubt it though lol. So this is my second day with the a9 and let me say I am pleasantly surprised. I was extremely sceptical when HTC dropped the specs on it. I've been a die hard HTC fan for the last 10 years and I was upset when they announced the a9 because I feared I'd have to go to another company from my m8 ( which is still a great device my usb port was acting up though). After seeing reviews though and realizing that expandable memory is a deal breaker for me I went for the a9. First impressions after a few hours was the phone was quick! A lot smoother then my m8 and that was overclocked. I really thing this 617 is fantastic. I hadn't had an ounce of lag and I've stressed it out pretty good. Mixed with 6.0 it's a dream to use. I'm grasping for reasons to pick this thing up. The screen is vibrant and I love the gorilla glass taper on all sides. The build quality is typical HTC, fantastic. Camera is by far the best HTC camera I have used as far as I can remember. Now on to the big question, the battery. I can tell you there's no need to worry about it. Marshmallows enhancements mixed with this greatly efficient 617 is getting me better battery performance then my m8. Went to work yesterday with the phone at 48% and came home 9 hours later with it at 22 and that's while it was doing the initial boot up and install of allllllllll my apps and normal usage. The. Got home charged it exptreamly fast and used the hell out of it for hours. Then went to bed and left it off the charger to test doze. Man does that work. It dropped maybe 2% in 7 hours. Sorry for making this a long posts but I just want people to enjoy this device as much as I am. This is by far worth the 399 and without a doubt the 499 tag. I could even say it's worth more then that.

Thank catches could share with GSAM battery Batery,thank you very much!
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Thanks for sharing, makes me more excited than ever to get mine

thanks for the info Cameron.
BTW, where did you pick it up? It seems like most of us are still waiting on their orders shipping.

eelpout said:
thanks for the info Cameron.
BTW, where did you pick it up? It seems like most of us are still waiting on their orders shipping.
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It's strait from AT&T. I pre-ordered the 1st and they said it ships the 5th. I ended up getting it the 3rd. Kind of unfortunate HTC should have sent theirs first seeing you had to pay full price. But I guess att already had their stock. Maybe HTC got more pre orders then expected?

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It's strait from AT&T. I pre-ordered the 1st and they said it ships the 5th. I ended up getting it the 3rd. Kind of unfortunate HTC should have sent theirs first seeing you had to pay full price. But I guess att already had their stock. Maybe HTC got more pre orders then expected?
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hmm, i imagine AT&T wanted first dibs in their U.S. sales agreement with HTC.

Yea that's probably it. Hopefully you all get yours soon. I'm really anxious to get this rooted and throw aosp rom on here and see how much more efficient this phone can be. Sense is already almost non existent. Give me the HTC camera and gallery apk and I'll be fine.

cameron1292 said:
Alright....first off this is 100% opinion and my specific experience so yours may be different. I doubt it though lol. So this is my second day with the a9 and let me say I am pleasantly surprised. I was extremely sceptical when HTC dropped the specs on it. I've been a die hard HTC fan for the last 10 years and I was upset when they announced the a9 because I feared I'd have to go to another company from my m8 ( which is still a great device my usb port was acting up though). After seeing reviews though and realizing that expandable memory is a deal breaker for me I went for the a9. First impressions after a few hours was the phone was quick! A lot smoother then my m8 and that was overclocked. I really thing this 617 is fantastic. I hadn't had an ounce of lag and I've stressed it out pretty good. Mixed with 6.0 it's a dream to use. I'm grasping for reasons to pick this thing up. The screen is vibrant and I love the gorilla glass taper on all sides. The build quality is typical HTC, fantastic. Camera is by far the best HTC camera I have used as far as I can remember. Now on to the big question, the battery. I can tell you there's no need to worry about it. Marshmallows enhancements mixed with this greatly efficient 617 is getting me better battery performance then my m8. Went to work yesterday with the phone at 48% and came home 9 hours later with it at 22 and that's while it was doing the initial boot up and install of allllllllll my apps and normal usage. The. Got home charged it exptreamly fast and used the hell out of it for hours. Then went to bed and left it off the charger to test doze. Man does that work. It dropped maybe 2% in 7 hours. Sorry for making this a long posts but I just want people to enjoy this device as much as I am. This is by far worth the 399 and without a doubt the 499 tag. I could even say it's worth more then that.
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Hi Cameron,
Thanks for your note, not too long at all I enjoyed reading your first impressions, If anything of note comes up that might be of interest please follow up, Cheers!!!

gheymann said:
Hi Cameron,
Thanks for your note, not too long at all I enjoyed reading your first impressions, If anything of note comes up that might be of interest please follow up, Cheers!!!
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Sure thing I'll update with whatever I find. One thing I've seen today is I've been really using it. I have off of work and I've been on YouTube and browsing the web. A lottttt of whatsapp messaging for hours and it does drain fast with heavy usage. I'd say with constant usage all day it lasted about 6 hours before it dropped to 20%. Way more usage then you normally would do.I usually switch to my tablet when I'm home anyway, but I've wanted to test this out. When it hit 20 though I plugged it in, did some dishes and made lunch and it was back up to 79 lol so it makes up for it. Can't wait to see quick charge 3.0

cameron1292 said:
Sure thing I'll update with whatever I find. One thing I've seen today is I've been really using it. I have off of work and I've been on YouTube and browsing the web. A lottttt of whatsapp messaging for hours and it does drain fast with heavy usage. I'd say with constant usage all day it lasted about 6 hours before it dropped to 20%. Way more usage then you normally would do.I usually switch to my tablet when I'm home anyway, but I've wanted to test this out. When it hit 20 though I plugged it in, did some dishes and made lunch and it was back up to 79 lol so it makes up for it. Can't wait to see quick charge 3.0
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How does it compare to the M8 when using it one-handed? I've seen reports that claim it's more and less slippery.

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How does it compare to the M8 when using it one-handed? I've seen reports that claim it's more and less slippery.
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One handed use is fine. It is slippery though. Not any more then my m8 but I think because of the size. It's a lot thinner. Had to get a case today and I'm not a case person. Never had the m8 in one . Only cases online were weird brands so I picked up a casemate from att. Nice actually it's see through and very thin it's mainly for a grip and small falls which is what I like.

cameron1292 said:
Sure thing I'll update with whatever I find. One thing I've seen today is I've been really using it. I have off of work and I've been on YouTube and browsing the web. A lottttt of whatsapp messaging for hours and it does drain fast with heavy usage. I'd say with constant usage all day it lasted about 6 hours before it dropped to 20%. Way more usage then you normally would do.I usually switch to my tablet when I'm home anyway, but I've wanted to test this out. When it hit 20 though I plugged it in, did some dishes and made lunch and it was back up to 79 lol so it makes up for it. Can't wait to see quick charge 3.0
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Thanks for the thoughtful review. I find I have similar battery experience with my M9. If I'm using it a lot, the battery drains very fast (similar to your experience with the A9 today). If usage is light it lasts a long time. Anyway, I'm looking forward to playing with the A9 myself (hopefully shipping tomorrow?).

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Thanks for the thoughtful review. I find I have similar battery experience with my M9. If I'm using it a lot, the battery drains very fast (similar to your experience with the A9 today). If usage is light it lasts a long time. Anyway, I'm looking forward to playing with the A9 myself (hopefully shipping tomorrow?).
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Yea I think tomorrow I'll run it with saver on and see if there's any lag and what performance I get. I also didn't mention the fingerprint scanner. I always thought they felt gimicky. This one doesn't. Its stupid fast. I love the feature of it not being a button just tap it with the screen off and it unlocks everything.

Rooting an A9
Received an A9 today. Lovely phone. Is there any information available on rooting the device? Is it too soon, or is there some general procedure? Would like to give CyanogenMod a try sometime soon.

carlsaganuat said:
Received an A9 today. Lovely phone. Is there any information available on rooting the device? Is it too soon, or is there some general procedure? Would like to give CyanogenMod a try sometime soon.
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I'd love to know. I don't think there is yet. I know HTC is very open this go around with rooting though. I'd love a stock Android rom with HTC camera apk OT would get even better performance. I'll post a picture later of my battery stats today they are fantastic

Unplugged at 830 this morning. At work all day being used and 13+ hours later not too shabby. Better then my m8 for sure. Not as good as something with a 3K mah phone but it's not bad at all.
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I went to at&t today to play with it. Very responsive compared to my m9. Design is 100% iphone. No ambient display though. Not worth the $500 tag they want but if tmobile had it id consider financing. I do like the fact its very slimmed down sense. Almost aosp feel and look. Htc should of kept the price at $399.

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I went to at&t today to play with it. Very responsive compared to my m9. Design is 100% iphone. No ambient display though. Not worth the $500 tag they want but if tmobile had it id consider financing. I do like the fact its very slimmed down sense. Almost aosp feel and look. Htc should of kept the price at $399.
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Maybe if you had it for a few days. I think it's worth 500 considering the build quality and the parts used inside are high quality. Not to mention the surprisingly good battery. But Yea I wouldn't pay 500 strait up I'm doing next with att

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Maybe if you had it for a few days. I think it's worth 500 considering the build quality and the parts used inside are high quality. Not to mention the surprisingly good battery. But Yea I wouldn't pay 500 strait up I'm doing next with att
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I'll admit it was speedy, no lag but the 617 is still midrange. I'd also assume the at&T model has a unlockable bootloader. Most of the YouTube reviews claim the battery life terrible so we shall see. If one pops up on swappa or craigslist for $300 I'd buy it.

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I'll admit it was speedy, no lag but the 617 is still midrange. I'd also assume the at&T model has a unlockable bootloader. Most of the YouTube reviews claim the battery life terrible so we shall see. If one pops up on swappa or craigslist for $300 I'd buy it.
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Yea I noticed that every review was different I mean you see the picture I posted I got good performance yesterday. I think when I went to bed I was at 18 hours. And I use my phone. But some reviews said it sucked. Some reviews said sound sucked too . It's not as stereo as my m8 but louder and clearer I think. 300 would be a good price. I want to get this rooted and tinker with the 617