I recently bought and finally received my brand new seidio battery for my nexus one. As soon as i tried to charge it however, I had issues. At first, the charge LED flashed orange and then green as if there was no battery in it at all. then after a while it finally started "charging" as indicated by the orange light. I left it overnight and most of today, more than 12 hours, and it still says it is charging. Even WORSE is that my phone won't even boot at this point, even though it has been "charging" for more than 12 hours. I have tried both a usb and wall charger, but the wall charger for 99.9% of the charge. Anyone heard of anything like this happening? I have searched for a while and found bubcus. Not even an FAQ from seidio or something.
That sounds like a shorted battery, probably blew a fuse in the Nexus motherboard.
That sucks and Seido does not cover damages caused by their products to the phones.
Bummer.
Well my phone still works just fine with the standard battery. It just won't boot with the extended one. guess I just have a lemon. Just wanted to confirm before I sent it back
Tell them they sent a faulty product and try to get a refund. Good luck
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Exactly what I will do. Are they usually diffucult to deal with when it comes to returns? Or do they actually act like they want to help?
They are kind of hard to deal with verses Mugen
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Received my Samsung OEM Spare Battery System for Galaxy S which I intended to use with my Epic 4G. (A charger plus spare battery for those unfamiliar.)
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The charger refuses to charge my original battery (led flashes red, green, orange, then stays off), and my phone refuses to charge the battery that came with the charging system (Battery not connected).
The phone will run off of the new battery.
I am returning the "system". Should I request a replacement or is this expected behavior? Anyone else have this item?
Douger said:
Received my Samsung OEM Spare Battery System for Galaxy S which I intended to use with my Epic 4G. (A charger plus spare battery for those unfamiliar.)
Samsung EBH973UVBA
The charger refuses to charge my original battery (led flashes red, green, orange, then stays off), and my phone refuses to charge the battery that came with the charging system (Battery not connected).
The phone will run off of the new battery.
I am returning the "system". Should I request a replacement or is this expected behavior? Anyone else have this item?
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If you bought it from sprint then definitely demand a replacement as this is not normal. If not, i'd just get my money back. As far as I know some people have had the battery not connected issue when using other galaxy s batteries
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Definitely not normal. I have two of those things (for 3 batteries total) and can charge any of the batteries from either of the chargers or my phone. It usually cycles through the colors then settles on red while it charges.
Exchange it. I have the same kit and it chahrges just fine either battery as well as the phone when plugged in.
Exchange it. Mine works great.
I am having the EXACT same issue with this charger system and my Samsung Vibrant.
Will not charge the battery that came with my phone. And if I plug a charger in to the phone while the new battery is installed, the phone shuts off. This is not acceptable.
how does it go orange we have a blue and red led?
Epic
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how does it go orange we have a blue and red led?
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i assume he is talking about the led on the charging station.
Definitely not right as I have used that charger since roll out day. Occasionally it blinks orange and I just pull the battery and reseat it. Since I have three extra batteries it almost is always being used. How I got three extra batteries and one charger is another story.
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Mine works perfectly with no issues. It charges both of my batteries.
I am having the same problem with this charger as others. I believe I bought it new on Amazon, and my girlfriend was never able to get it working. Just checked it myself and confirmed the same symptoms as above. I am going to try another battery but I doubt it works and it's probably not worth the effort to return it.
Check the documentation to make certain it's meant for your phone model. I accidentally bought the wrong OEM Samsung Galaxy S battery/charger package and had the same symptoms (charger wouldn't charge original Epic battery, Epic wouldn't charge new battery). It turned out that there was a different model for the Epic 4G, even though the batteries are physically almost identical (the new one had a blue label, whereas the original had a black label) and the new battery would power the phone, just not charge in it. I ended up ordering the correct kit, and it works correctly.
Aaron T.
arteitle said:
Check the documentation to make certain it's meant for your phone model. I accidentally bought the wrong OEM Samsung Galaxy S battery/charger package and had the same symptoms (charger wouldn't charge original Epic battery, Epic wouldn't charge new battery). It turned out that there was a different model for the Epic 4G, even though the batteries are physically almost identical (the new one had a blue label, whereas the original had a black label) and the new battery would power the phone, just not charge in it. I ended up ordering the correct kit, and it works correctly.
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Thanks for the info! I have a feeling you are probably right, because I recall my girlfriend saying there was a problem with the battery too. She broke her USB plug so I have her on an Inspire right now, and I'll check the charger after her phone is fixed.
my first charger broke, but sometimes when using my functional charger. Treat the battery like a nes cartridge slide in to edge and slowly push in and down. Also when it acts up sometimes remove battery try again. cheaply made, expensively sold
I bought 2 x aftermarket 1600mah batteries from eBay with a charger to charge them directly.
I don't have high hopes but I figured for £10 I couldn't really go wrong.
So I charged one of the new batteries in the supplied charger overnight and tried it out this morning. At first boot, my Desire HD said the battery was empty and to connect the charger. If I leave it the phone shuts down after 20 seconds. I did connect the charger and and then instantly the phone said the battery was 99% full. After I disconnected the charger the phone has run all day on one of these ebay batteries, with life being comparable to the stock battery.
My question is, is this some kind of software glitch? Or a problem with the charger pergaps? I am using Cyanogenmod 7 (Gingerbread). Anyone else seen this issue?
I'd like the phone to report the correct power level when I swap the battery, so that it doesn't shut down automatically, and can be used when Im away from a charger.
where can i find a 1600mAH official battery??
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where can i find a 1600mAH official battery??
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You can't no such thing as an official one
E=Mc2
I have the same issue with what sounds like the same batteries and charger running cm6. The problem isn't there when I use the stock rom. Think it's a cm issue. I don't know of a fix except that sometimes wiping battery stats before booting sorts it out. Good luck and if you find a fix, please post.
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I have the same issue with what sounds like the same batteries and charger running cm6. The problem isn't there when I use the stock rom. Think it's a cm issue. I don't know of a fix except that sometimes wiping battery stats before booting sorts it out. Good luck and if you find a fix, please post.
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Not a fix, just my workaround:
I charge the phone with the unofficial 1600mah battery overnight, and run it all day until it runs out. Then I switch to the official HTC battery, which lasts me all evening.
For example I went to a wedding Saturday, and taking pictures/playing Angry Birds during the boring bits, the two batteries easily lasted the whole day. I don't think the 1600mah battery is any better than stock though. Wouldn't say it's worse mind.
I think the CM7 builds have issues around battery life with WIFI/Bluetooth and Cell standby. From what i can see.
I'll let you know if I find a fix though!
I wanted an external charger so I could charge my spare battery while I was using my main one (have a momax 1700mah thats a few months old). I got a cheap one on ebay, it wasn't overly impressive, really light and cheap as you might expect. Pretty much nothing in the way of instructions came with it, the light is blue when its plugged in empty, and purple when charging. I put my momax in last night to charge from almost dead, and I took it out before bed and tried it, my phone said 83%. I put my stock back in and left it alone, would charge fully after work today. I did that, eventually the light went to blue so I assumed it was charged, but my phone wont boot with it, not even plugged in, theres nothing. Seems like this cheap charger has killed my battery somehow.
I mean...its a friggin battery, there isn't much you can do in terms of repair, not that I know of. The battery is only a couple months old so there should be warranty, but in the mean time, any suggestions?
Try to use a genuine one so that your phone may not be damaged.
This has been a somewhat recurring problem since I got my phone. Some nights when I put it on the charger the battery icon will show that it is charging, but when I wake up it will be at 30%. I have to take the battery out several times before it actually charges. It did this a few nights when I first got it, but then it got better for the next couple months and now it's doing it again. I'm running CM7 with Da_G's kernel and haven't changed anything since the first successful flash. I'm also using the same battery and charger that came in the box.
I noticed that the battery is rated 1850 mAh and the sticker on the inside cover of my phone is rated for 1500 mAh, would that be a problem?
Maybe you just have a junk Battery? I would try another one. (and that way at a minimum, you have a spare)
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Try this: go to your dialer and dial *#*#4636#*#* and tap battery information. There's a couple things to look at on this screen, first of which would be battery health. If it says anything other than good, try resetting your phone. If it says good, then plug in your charger and look at the battery status field. It should say charging. If it says discharging, try a different charger. If it's still discharging on a different charger, do a master reset and try again. If it still discharges after the master reset, you should look at getting your phone replaced.
It says the battery is in good health and that it's charging, but it's been stuck on 29% for about 30 minutes now. I'm thoroughly confused.
Did you try a different charger?
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If you tried a different charger and the factory reset didn't make a difference you should look at replacement.
Yup, try a different charger. Samsung oem usb cables have had some issues.
And if that's the case you should get a free replacement from AT&T. And get a replacement battery while you're at it, always good to have a spare...
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Did you try a different charger?
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I used my charger from my old phone and also my car charger and it just seems to be random when the battery decides to charge. There's no definite way to get it to charge, I just have to plug it in and hope for the best and maybe do a few battery pulls. Sounds like I'll have to buy a new battery.
Don't buy one, that's a warranty replacement. And if that doesn't work get a replacement device. Something is defective.
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Don't buy one, that's a warranty replacement. And if that doesn't work get a replacement device. Something is defective.
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Talking with support now, thanks for the heads up.
I had the same problem this morning. I am on ICS 7.4 stock and I recently added some mods from dark kobalt theme. First my phone died while charging, so I turned it back on and I received a message about too many things running and before I could stop the tasks it turned off again. After a couple tries, I was able to close all background data etc. At this point it still wouldnt take a charge but it would stay on while plugged into charger...15 mins later it started charging normally again!
I purchased the Tylt Vu wireless charger for my N5 and N7. Last night, before I went to bed, I charged the N7. In the middle of the night, I switched out the N7 and charged the N5. When I woke up this morning, the phone was too hot to touch, and had been powered down (as designed, based on the heat). It took about 5 minutes before the phone was cool enough to power on.
A couple questions: Can such extreme (??) heat do permanent damage to the phone? Has anyone else had this problem with the Tylt Vu wireless charger? The phone wasn't off-center, and nothing appeared abnormal when I set it on the charger. I wonder if transitioning from the N7 to the N5 so quickly caused an abnormality?
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I haven't been following this thread, as I decided after my overheating incident to no longer use the Tylt Vu with my Nexus 5. I was also a bit turned off by the response I received from Tylt.
I take no credit for the following information, I am only summarizing this thread to save you time.
The Tylt Vu is defective. It contains three charging coils that help it to charge any device without having to be finicky about positioning. However, unless you set the Nexus 5 onto the Tylt Vu in a specific manner, the third (top) coil will remain activated, resulting in overheating due to the magnets present in the Nexus 5. (Oversimplified explanation... read the chain for specifics.)
The "right way" is to set the Nexus 5 down in the crevice of the Vu, perpendicular to the earth, and then pivot it down to rest on the back of the Vu. The wrong way is to slide it down the back, or otherwise set it on the Vu in a way where it is not touching the short base first. (See post #118.) You can also permanently disable the third coil by opening up the Tylt. All of this applies to charging the N5 in portrait mode.
A big thanks to NCguy for his persistence throughout the thread, to Mr. Sprinkles for his theory and relentless testing, to jelledgeu2 for the "solution", and every other poster who has shed some light on this. And a big 'no thanks' to Tylt for their response to the issue.
tl;dr: Always be vigilant on how you set the N5 on the Tylt Vu, or charge the N5 on the Tylt Vu at your own risk.
I have a Vu shipping now, I will report my experiences. Both of my boys have nexus 7's and will watch those too. Tyvm for the heads up...
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I haven't seen this behavior on any of my qi chargers including my tylt vu.
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Were you able to successfully charge it before and this just happened the night when you switched from N7 to N5 ?. I don't think overheating damages any electronics because it is designed to shut off.
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Were you able to successfully charge it before and this just happened the night when you switched from N7 to N5 ?. I don't think overheating damages any electronics because it is designed to shut off.
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I can confirm that I have experienced this with the same set up (n5+TYLT VU), although I also have the Spiegen Slim Armour. This happened though only once, when I was at work and the phone was baked like a hot potato!
Since then I have been coy about leaving it on the charger unattended - I have checked the phone regularly since,. both after and during long charges - the problem has not happened again.
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I purchased the Tylt Vu wireless charger for my N5 and N7. Last night, before I went to bed, I charged the N7. In the middle of the night, I switched out the N7 and charged the N5. When I woke up this morning, the phone was too hot to touch, and had been powered down (as designed, based on the heat). It took about 5 minutes before the phone was cool enough to power on.
A couple questions: Can such extreme (??) heat do permanent damage to the phone? Has anyone else had this problem with the Tylt Vu wireless charger? The phone wasn't off-center, and nothing appeared abnormal when I set it on the charger. I wonder if transitioning from the N7 to the N5 so quickly caused an abnormality?
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Thanks for the heads up, as I am looking at purchasign the Tylt Vu.
The only thing I can say is that heat can definitely cause degredation of the battery. Besides that, there should be no signicant damage to the phone.
Thanks, everyone. I was able to charge both the N5 and N7 twice before without any troubles. I'm a little skeptical about leaving anything on it to charge unattended now -- my N5 was untouchably hot this morning. I've emailed Tylt to ask if they have any background/information on what could cause this to happen. I'll let you know if I hear back.
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i use the nexus orb charger at work and the LG 700 charger at home. While the phone can get a little warm, I certainly wouldn't consider it hot.
I'm not sure why your charger didn't turn off when reaching 100%
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i use the nexus orb charger at work and the LG 700 charger at home. While the phone can get a little warm, I certainly wouldn't consider it hot.
I'm not sure why your charger didn't turn off when reaching 100%
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It never charged. The phone was at 70% when I put it on the charger. When I woke up, once I was finally able to boot it up, it was at 73%. It was scary hot.
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It never charged. The phone was at 70% when I put it on the charger. When I woke up, once I was finally able to boot it up, it was at 73%. It was scary hot.
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yes! I bought 2 tylt vu's from kickstarter and experienced exactly the same overheating problem. It was overnight and there was no charge on the battery in the morning with it still at 54% and very hot. It's possible that that the phone may have become mis-aligned on the charger but its unlikely. I just didn't happen to notice before I grabbed it off the charger. I can't explain how it happened and its only happened once....... so far.
In general the phone is alarming warm even when its working. The battery temp is usually around 110+ F even after it finishes charging. This compares with a battery temp of around 80F with the USB charger.
I'm not an expert but I'm thinking that the battery heat is not being generated by the battery itself internally but possibly by a heat transfer as a result of the induction. If that is in fact the case then maybe the warmer battery isn't as bad as it would be if it were in fact generated internally in the battery as is typically the result of a high charge/discharge rate.
So my concerns are two fold, the one-time completely unacceptable high overheating and the ongoing situation where it is always 20-40 degrees higher while on the tylt than it would be plugged into the USB charger.
I wouldn't be too concerned except that replacing a battery in an N5 is not like replacing a battery in a phone with a removable battery.
Wow... I wasn't expecting two people to have had identical experiences. Slightly concerning, however, it sounds like it's only happened once for each of you (NCguy, Drizwaldo1). I hesitantly charged my N5 again on it tonight. I watched it closely and pulled it off when it hit 100%. No problems, and only moderately warm (as is typical for wireless charging). I would chalk this morning's incident up to a fluke and forget about it if the phone hadn't been so insanely (explosively!?!) hot this morning...
I have a tylt but I have not tried it yet on the N5. I use a Nokia qi charger primarily and have not had an issue. Only have the phone since the 8th. I just got a spigen case. Let's see how that works out.
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Are you guys at all concerned about premature battery wear with the battery temp 20-30 degrees higher than the usb charger? That's when its working "normally" and with a tylt.
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Are you guys at all concerned about premature battery wear with the battery temp 20-30 degrees higher than the usb charger? That's when its working "normally" and with a tylt.
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I'm not overly concerned about it, primarily because I get a new phone almost every year and expect the stock battery to be sufficient for at least that amount of time even with degradation. Worst case scenario, it doesn't sound like it would be hard to swap it out (based on iFixit's assessment). I'm more worried about doing irreversible damage to the internal components if it overheats again like it did on the Tylt.
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Are you guys at all concerned about premature battery wear with the battery temp 20-30 degrees higher than the usb charger? That's when its working "normally" and with a tylt.
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My Nexus 4 got a lot warmer on the Qi charger than my N5 does, and it's battery showed no ill effects. So no, I'm not worried about my N5.
I just purchases the Vu charger as well to pair with my Nexus 5 and 7. I hope the overheating thing isn't common... I'm a bit worried.
Please continue reporting. I'll do the same once I receive my Vu.
Wow, thanks for the Headsup!
I was quite close to buying the Tylt vu despite the very high price tag.
Hope not all qi chargers have this issue.
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My Nexus 4 got a lot warmer on the Qi charger than my N5 does, and it's battery showed no ill effects. So no, I'm not worried about my N5.
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I hope you're right. I'll probably go for it also. Hopefully I won't have to do an ifixit battery replacement but it doesn't look too awfully bad if it comes to that. I keep them a year but then usually pass on to my wife who would rather not be leading edge. I probably should give it to her with a decent battery. Unfortunately non-removable batteries s##k.
Found a post on another forum about the N4 doing the same thing (got so hot it shut off, never charged), he said resetting the phone cured it. Sounds like a software glitch to me.
any new updates or issues that has occurred? I have my tylt coming in a few days and wondering if I should just return it for the DT-900.