While update 3053 (December 10) gave me a tremendous improvement in speed and stability, I noticed that after update 3389 (December 23) my tablet appears to be affected with some sort of speed degradation when it comes out of an extended sleep period. Short sleep periods do not appear so far to affect it.
I already had this happen twice out of two tries. The best place for me to see this is when I attempt to use gestures in Dolphin Browser HD v4.2. The browser does not follow my finger as I draw the gesture. Instead of the gesture I draw on the screen I just get random lines.
I can also see a difference in how the TnT app drawer opens and how my screen taps are detected in general or how a website scrolls on the screen.
A power OFF power ON fixes this until the next extended sleep period. In my case the extended sleep period was a couple of hours.
Fuzzy John said:
While update 3053 (December 10) gave me a tremendous improvement in speed and stability, I noticed that after update 3389 (December 23) my tablet appears to be affected with some sort of speed degradation when it comes out of an extended sleep period. Short sleep periods do not appear so far to affect it.
I already had this happen twice out of two tries. The best place for me to see this is when I attempt to use gestures in Dolphin Browser HD v4.2. The browser does not follow my finger as I draw the gesture. Instead of the gesture I draw on the screen I just get random lines.
I can also see a difference in how the TnT app drawer opens and how my screen taps are detected in general or how a website scrolls on the screen.
A power OFF power ON fixes this until the next extended sleep period. In my case the extended sleep period was a couple of hours.
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I saw a post last conjecturing that there's a governor, so I did some Googling and found:
http://tegradeveloper.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/cpufreq-tegrastats
I checked on my Gtab, still on older stock TNT, and min freq was 216000 vs. Max 1000000. Maybe if min freq was set to 1000000, you wouldn't see the slowdown?
Jim
Download an app called advanced task killer. Kill all the apps that randomly pop on to phone home... Speed restored for me at least...
One of the devs recommended using Autostarts to kill all instances of Calendar. Seems to have done the trick for me.
-=Sent from my VS GTablet (VEGAn b4) using Tapatalk=-
This issue has affected ZPad and now Vegan ROM too for some time, so it's not just in the new 3389 update. However, it happened only infrequently in Vegan beta3 and happens all the time in Vegan beta4, and according to the TNT Lite thread, it is happening more with TNT Lite 3.1.0 to many people too.
And apparently it's affecting the new 3389 update more too, based on this thread.
In Vegan beta4, blocking the Calendar process with Autostarts doesn't change the issue at all for me, though Rothnic and others said that fixed the issue in Vegan beta3.
Vegan beta4 and the 3389 update and TNT Lite 3.1.0 all share the same new kernel I believe. I suspect that some change in the new kernel compile by Tap N Tap has made the problem worse. Just a guess though.
rcgabriel said:
This issue has affected ZPad and now Vegan ROM too for some time, so it's not just in the new 3389 update. However, it happened only infrequently in Vegan beta3 and happens all the time in Vegan beta4, and according to the TNT Lite thread, it is happening more with TNT Lite 3.1.0 to many people too.
And apparently it's affecting the new 3389 update more too, based on this thread.
In Vegan beta4, blocking the Calendar process with Autostarts doesn't change the issue at all for me, though Rothnic and others said that fixed the issue in Vegan beta3.
Vegan beta4 and the 3389 update and TNT Lite 3.1.0 all share the same new kernel I believe. I suspect that some change in the new kernel compile by Tap N Tap has made the problem worse. Just a guess though.
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Kernel is the same, that's correct. It's probably a good place to start and I suspect even stock is affected. One step forward, two steps back?
I use a Startup Manager, as well. Lots of the gapps like to start up in memory, on boot. On my old Pandigital build, I would actually delete any apks that I didn't use.
Maybe someone who has 3389 can try setting those min freq values mentioned in #2?
It's pretty easy using su/term.
Jim
jimcpl said:
Maybe someone who has 3389 can try setting those min freq values mentioned in #2?
It's pretty easy using su/term.
Jim
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There's an Overclock tool i the Market that should also work (the name escapes me, at the moment - testing 3.1.1 right now).
jimcpl said:
Maybe someone who has 3389 can try setting those min freq values mentioned in #2?
It's pretty easy using su/term.
Jim
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Jim, I have been using Overclock Widget to set min 512000/max 1000000 for some time now. The short answer is that it doesn't make a bit of difference to the lag-on-wake problem. I haven't tried 1000000/1000000 for any extended period of time because I suspect it will drain battery pretty fast.
Just some observations and suggestions...
I've been reading posts all morning about 3389 speed degregation and other issues. For me, I installed TnT Lite 3.1 cleanly last night, and I haven't seen any of the issues being reported. My camera works fine. My gtab comes out of sleep and connects to wifi ready for use. Although, I don't use live wallpaper, but Roebeet already said he will address this issue. The only reported issue I see is the Market stars being cut off, which is a known issue with the Tnt Framework. To my pleasure, everything else for me is working just fine.
Last night, my gtab was slow for a while because of the SD scan (I do agree it does take a long time). This morning, I have been taking my gtab in and out of sleep with no issues or speed degregation to report.
I see folks constantly asking Roebeet if they need to do a data wipe to install the updated custom package. The rule of thumb should be yes. It doesn't take long to restore everything. The longest time is to restore the applications from Titanium Backup, and for me with close to 50 applications it only takes 15 minutes or so to complete. I always do a data wipe (factory reset), cache wipe, and dalvik clean, etc. before I install the custom update unless otherwise stated by Roebeet. My suggestion is if you haven't done so is to do a full clean install.
rcgabriel said:
Jim, I have been using Overclock Widget to set min 512000/max 1000000 for some time now. The short answer is that it doesn't make a bit of difference to the lag-on-wake problem. I haven't tried 1000000/1000000 for any extended period of time because I suspect it will drain battery pretty fast.
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Hi,
Thanks. I'm new to Android, but not to *nix, so was just curious. It may be that VS disabled or didn't include the governors in their kernel? I guess you/we won't know until they provide kernel source, and hopefully their build parameters...
Jim
Who here has the problem and does not have gapps installed?
I am running 3389 with the TnT enhancement pack and haven't had the issue yet.
rothnic said:
Who here has the problem and does not have gapps installed?
I am running 3389 with the TnT enhancement pack and haven't had the issue yet.
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I didn't seem to have the issue until I installed the gapps. How do I uninstall the gapps, can I just reapply the 3389 update zip?
Edit: I will admit that I didn't have 3389 on very long before adding the gapps but I am pretty sure I had at least one sleep cycle in there somewhere. I have never seen this lag before on prior VS updates though and it is pretty annoying.
Rothnic
I downloaded your enhancement pack and installed as you suggested. I lost:
ES file manager
android apps
viewsonic g market
Talk
PHotos
Angry Birds is present but I have lost all of my user data.
The speed seems to be a little faster than pure stock was but as I understand your post the enhancement pack was supposed to simiply add the speed features and the android market on top of the 3389 update. Any idea on how to correct this?
guitar geek said:
Rothnic
I downloaded your enhancement pack and installed as you suggested. I lost:
ES file manager
android apps
viewsonic g market
Talk
PHotos
Angry Birds is present but I have lost all of my user data.
The speed seems to be a little faster than pure stock was but as I understand your post the enhancement pack was supposed to simiply add the speed features and the android market on top of the 3389 update. Any idea on how to correct this?
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Right this does remove a few things that tnt lite removes. It also replaces some apps. Most of the apps you list you can download from the official Google market that it installs. It also installs galley 3d, which is a better photo app. The viewsonic market isn't needed when you have the Google one.
Also, it doesn't touch user data.
TeamSpeed said:
I didn't seem to have the issue until I installed the gapps. How do I uninstall the gapps, can I just reapply the 3389 update zip?
Edit: I will admit that I didn't have 3389 on very long before adding the gapps but I am pretty sure I had at least one sleep cycle in there somewhere. I have never seen this lag before on prior VS updates though and it is pretty annoying.
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I'm pretty sure that it is the calendar and maybe contacts sync from Google. I don't include those in the tnt enhancement pack, so I think it may be immune.
You could reinstall 3389, then install the enhancement pack.
purduecmpe said:
Download an app called advanced task killer. Kill all the apps that randomly pop on to phone home... Speed restored for me at least...
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Is this something a user has to do every time the performance degrades? I'd rather have Viewsonic fix it.
roebeet said:
Kernel is the same, that's correct. It's probably a good place to start and I suspect even stock is affected. One step forward, two steps back?
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I have a stock tablet, so your suspicion is good. Viewsonic needs to fix this promptly.
rothnic said:
Who here has the problem and does not have gapps installed?
I am running 3389 with the TnT enhancement pack and haven't had the issue yet.
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I do not have gapps installed. My tablet is stock 3389.
I have just done described in post #2 using the terminal and su. Fortunately path do match, so it was matter of typing it in.
Off to pick up few groceries, an will report if that worked. I wonder if we have to do this everytime when you reboot?
Related
Edit: (Update) Download Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9741682&postcount=56
Thanks mb2k for finding download link.
Market Fix Must be Re-done.
Android Developers have started posting photos
of the new market rolling out soon.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/12/android-market-client-update.html
"The Android Market engineering team has been hard at work on improving the Android Market experience for users and developers. Today, I’m pleased to announce a significant update to the Android Market client. Over the next two weeks, we’ll be rolling out a new Android Market client to all devices running Android 1.6 or higher.
This new Market client introduces important features that improve merchandising of applications, streamlines the browse-to-purchase experience, and makes it easier for developers to distribute their applications.
With a focus on improving discoverability and merchandising, we’ve introduced a new carousel on the home and category screens. Users can quickly flip through the carousel to view promoted applications and immediately go to the download page for the application they want. Developers have been very active in creating great Widgets and Live Wallpapers. To make it easier for users to find their favorites, we’re introducing two new categories for Widgets and Live Wallpapers. Applications that include Widgets and Wallpapers will be automatically added to those new categories. We’ll also be adding more categories for popular applications and games in the weeks ahead. In addition, the app details page now includes Related content, which makes it easier for users to quickly find apps of similar interest."
I think it looks great and cant wait for the update.
someone's posted the apk in a nexus one thread. i assume it can be used on the gtab.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868767
Good Find, and yes it does work I just tried it.
Use this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9741682&postcount=56
You must Re-Do Market fix
I applied the vegan b2 update and after applying the new market update, I didn't need to apply the market fix. Not sure if the b2 resolved he market fix issue, but was pleasantly suprised.
Good find. Nice UI. Fix worked well. Wish Roebeet add this to next update.
Sent from my VEGAn-TAB-v1.0.0b2 using Tapatalk
Few questions please:
1. Which link do we use? One at very top?
2. Install via Clockwork and update.zip?
3. Does it open more of the market up, or same as current market (without the system hack using Root Explorer).
4. Will it work with TnT 2.20?
rushless said:
Few questions please:
1. Which link do we use? One at very top?
2. Install via Clockwork and update.zip?
3. Does it open more of the market up, or same as current market (without the system hack using Root Explorer).
4. Will it work with TnT 2.20?
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1. Yes top link
2. Yes clockwork and Select zip from sd
3. I am able to see everything in market
4. Yes it will work on TnT 2.20 if the TnT you have is TnT lite.
CAUTION: Would not download this, based on my experience with TnT 2.20:
Nice interface, but not the full market. Games like Tank Hero and other apps still do not show up.
More importantly:
Seems the graphics are broken, since stars for apps are cut off and no button options to actually update the apps.
Something is wrong with this app in relation to the Gtablet and at least TnT 2.20.
Looks like I will be restoring with clockwork, since this app appears borked as far as interface.
Did you folks actually try to update or download an app?
Update 2:
OK, the tiny cut-off line above the uninstall icon bar is what you press. Just have to be precise to press it, but it works. Press it twice.
Rush,
Not sure what you're seeing but as stated in the other post, I'm able to update just fine. (clicking "my apps" lead me to the downoads screen and my available updates show up. Just updated Eagle Nest to be sure)
The game Tank Hero appears on the search list but no app when selecting
Running Vegan b3.
mb2k said:
Rush,
Not sure what you're seeing but as stated in the other post, I'm able to update just fine. (clicking "my apps" lead me to the downoads screen and my available updates show up. Just updated Eagle Nest to be sure)
The game Tank Hero appears on the search list but no app when selecting
Running Vegan b3.
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On TnT 2.20, the top icon is cut-off and can not see letters, just bottom few pixel rows. Uninstall icon shows up completely. Rating stars are also cut off. Only shows half of one star for all.
Tank Hero has always been missing.
added:
The cut-off icons and missing stars bugged me. Restoring with clockwork now.
Is there a way to roll back? It doesn't work so well on TnT 2.2...would prefer for a better implementation.
zerozed99 said:
Is there a way to roll back? It doesn't work so well on TnT 2.2...would prefer for a better implementation.
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I had to restore with Clockwork mod to get it back. Not sure if less extreme options. Will use this as a lesson to NOT jump so quickly again. App is semi broken with TnT 2.20.
rushless said:
I had to restore with Clockwork mod to get it back. Not sure if less extreme options. Will use this as a lesson to NOT jump so quickly again. App is semi broken with TnT 2.20.
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Just about to install new market fix but then I saw your post.
Thanks for info.
I've been trying to get this to work for hours, now - only worked once, then FC's every time after. And it's not an ACLs issue. Market fix / user data wipe and market fix, doesn't matter. FC's.
I won't be rushing to get this into any build, as is just doesn't work for me (yet).
How is everyone installing this, I have had zero FC and everything is installing and updating fine. I am on tnt lite 2.2
Just FC'ing on VEGAn build, TnT Lite is A-OK (except the screen glitches).
I had no problem with the market app update on TnT Lite 2.3, although I was only able to get the basic list of market apps. The tweaks to get the 'near' full market did not work for me. Then, I performed the blackout market update, and I still wasn't able to get the full market. I had to do a full reinstall of TnT Lite 2.3 (wiped user data) in order to restore the full market.
The only issue I can see is the stars, which are all the same (TnT 2.4.0 prototype). I'm considering adding this to 2.4.0, even with that glitch - seems that the good outweighs the bad.
EDIT: Nah, gotta pull it. I can live with the stars, but the cutoff text is a real mess. Must not be setup for 1024x600 screens (yet).
roebeet said:
I've been trying to get this to work for hours, now - only worked once, then FC's every time after. And it's not an ACLs issue. Market fix / user data wipe and market fix, doesn't matter. FC's.
I won't be rushing to get this into any build, as is just doesn't work for me (yet).
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New market works fine here with Vegan b2 ... after a few reboots
fulls up the start page too looks Nice
thanks good work
(tv.com installed)
wow looks great! worked fine with the signed update then market fix.
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Guys,
I just became the, now rather dubious, owner of a gTablet that a colleague brought for me from the States. So far I am not that impressed. Several apps that supposed to be on there, aren't (no Kindle app out of the box, and no gMarket, despite what the manual says).
SO, I try the announced update procedure: fails.
First time fails at 8%. Second time fails at 13%, third time fails at 28%, fourth time fails at 4%. Is this a joke of some sort? Also the download is rather slow, as in, they use smoke signals to get the message across!
Does anyone have the update as a file that I can run as an apk perhaps?
I also have to point out that the GUI rather sucks. The settings menu misses about 50% of the Android 2.2 options (I have a HTC desire. Waaaay more settings options...)
After my complaints,lets get to figuring this out.
1) Can someone point me to the update pack if it is available for download via my Mac and can be installed using that ES explorer program it has installed?
2) Does the update provide Google Market or the original weblink? Does it use a different gui or still the same simpleton gui?
3) if not, is there a simple ROM flash I can do that gives me a different GUI and google Market?
I have flashed my HTC Hero before, which was not a big deal. However, I want things done simple, so if there is a good ROM with a nice GUI and simple instructions for a noob (I got two left hands when it comes to this sort of stuff), and Google Market, I would gladly see a link.
Any support will be very welcome!
you found the right place
ksporry said:
Guys,
I just became the, now rather dubious, owner of a gTablet that a colleague brought for me from the States. So far I am not that impressed. Several apps that supposed to be on there, aren't (no Kindle app out of the box, and no gMarket, despite what the manual says).
SO, I try the announced update procedure: fails.
First time fails at 8%. Second time fails at 13%, third time fails at 28%, fourth time fails at 4%. Is this a joke of some sort? Also the download is rather slow, as in, they use smoke signals to get the message across!
Does anyone have the update as a file that I can run as an apk perhaps?
I also have to point out that the GUI rather sucks. The settings menu misses about 50% of the Android 2.2 options (I have a HTC desire. Waaaay more settings options...)
After my complaints,lets get to figuring this out.
1) Can someone point me to the update pack if it is available for download via my Mac and can be installed using that ES explorer program it has installed?
2) Does the update provide Google Market or the original weblink? Does it use a different gui or still the same simpleton gui?
3) if not, is there a simple ROM flash I can do that gives me a different GUI and google Market?
I have flashed my HTC Hero before, which was not a big deal. However, I want things done simple, so if there is a good ROM with a nice GUI and simple instructions for a noob (I got two left hands when it comes to this sort of stuff), and Google Market, I would gladly see a link.
Any support will be very welcome!
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Forget about the stock update and read about TNT lite or the vegan beta Rom if you feel experimental. You can get market flash and pretty much all the Google goodies.
ksporry said:
Guys,
I just became the, now rather dubious, owner of a gTablet that a colleague brought for me from the States. So far I am not that impressed. Several apps that supposed to be on there, aren't (no Kindle app out of the box, and no gMarket, despite what the manual says).
SO, I try the announced update procedure: fails.
First time fails at 8%. Second time fails at 13%, third time fails at 28%, fourth time fails at 4%. Is this a joke of some sort? Also the download is rather slow, as in, they use smoke signals to get the message across!
Does anyone have the update as a file that I can run as an apk perhaps?
I also have to point out that the GUI rather sucks. The settings menu misses about 50% of the Android 2.2 options (I have a HTC desire. Waaaay more settings options...)
After my complaints,lets get to figuring this out.
1) Can someone point me to the update pack if it is available for download via my Mac and can be installed using that ES explorer program it has installed?
2) Does the update provide Google Market or the original weblink? Does it use a different gui or still the same simpleton gui?
3) if not, is there a simple ROM flash I can do that gives me a different GUI and google Market?
I have flashed my HTC Hero before, which was not a big deal. However, I want things done simple, so if there is a good ROM with a nice GUI and simple instructions for a noob (I got two left hands when it comes to this sort of stuff), and Google Market, I would gladly see a link.
Any support will be very welcome!
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A good start would be the following guide.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
Understand that there are newer versions of the rom referenced, also there's VEGAn, a rom based on the Vega.
The Gtab stock needs a lot of help but it is a very good product with a little TLC and some grunt work:
Different devices/users different opinions. I am more than satisfied with the performance and feel of my Gtab without flashing a different ROM and what I did was follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827209
I used root explorer instead of AndRootFile
Then I changed my launcher to ADW.Launcher
Side load flash (Instructions/.apk on XDA-developers)
Do the market fix to get all market (Instructions/.apk on XDA-developers)
add titanium backup
add ROMManager
Note: When I applied the latest update from Viewsonic (fixed the video driver, now AngryBirds, etc working) I had to re-root the device but everything else works fine.
Even fixed the issue with Gtab not seeing Ad-hoc network from phone (Instructions can be found on internet). Now my Gtab rocks, connects to my home Wifi or if not available connects to my Phone Wifi.
I can still launch the default tapNtap if I want to and Viewsonic upgrades apply fine. I had an issue with update also....Support had me set the sleep to "off" and then it worked fine, however the update image was posted on XDA-developer:
Bobtran,
Interesting perspective. Could you run Quadrant and show us what that score is?
I have had TnT up to 2.2 then swithed to VEGAn beta3 now. Q =2411
Most everything runs very very fast...
All, Thanks for the suggestions and the useful links . I might be flashing mine this weekend.
As for which ROM to use, what are the pros and cons for one over another? E.g. if I were to take the TnT ROM (I think it's at 2.4.1 now?), how does that fare against, say, the Vegan Beta4 (I think the latest is beta4 from what I read on some posts)
Bobtran, did you have a link for the update image? seemed like you were going to post it, but got cut short...
Guys,
I am trying to install Clockwork Mod v08 as per one of the links. First issue is that the tablet won't mount the SDcard to my desktop. SHouldn't be a big issue as I can coy/paste the required files from the internal storage to the SDcard via ESexplorer (standard installed on the gTablet).
However, how do I know it installed correctly? I don't see a new app and the boot install goes very fast. There is an opened box with an arrow pointing down and a load bar that seems to have green hashed filling, as if it's preparing to install. Then suddenly the splash screen pops up. The box with arrow and progress bar are there for a second or so, maybe 2. Seems rather quick. Is this correct?
EDIT: I wanted to say the boot screen didn't come up when starting up with vol+ and pwr, but just noticed, it does... so should be ok
well, seems I have been successful in flashing the new ROM (TnT 2.4.0) using CWM-v08.
Question though, the instructions in the TnT installation guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245) seem to say that the market fix only is a partial fix (note that the comment applies to TnT2.2).
Now that I installed the TnT2.4.0 ROM, I was wondering if the market fix is also only partial for TnT2.4. If yes, can I run the patch at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827209
and if yes, would that give me full Market access? If not, what's involved in getting full Market access?
As a side question that may not belong here but wouldn't be answered in the appropriate forum section: I have an XT701 phone that needs a Market Fix. Would the fix at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827209
also provide my phone with the Market? Just a side question, if no answer, that's fine...
n2thecloud said:
Bobtran,
Interesting perspective. Could you run Quadrant and show us what that score is?
I have had TnT up to 2.2 then swithed to VEGAn beta3 now. Q =2411
Most everything runs very very fast...
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Unfortunately I flashed to TnT lite yesterday so can't do that anymore without starting from scratch. Just testing the waters so to speak.
ksporry said:
All, Thanks for the suggestions and the useful links . I might be flashing mine this weekend.
As for which ROM to use, what are the pros and cons for one over another? E.g. if I were to take the TnT ROM (I think it's at 2.4.1 now?), how does that fare against, say, the Vegan Beta4 (I think the latest is beta4 from what I read on some posts)
Bobtran, did you have a link for the update image? seemed like you were going to post it, but got cut short...
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Yes I was but I couldn't find it. Did some more research and here it is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847653&page=4
see post #35
ksporry said:
well, seems I have been successful in flashing the new ROM (TnT 2.4.0) using CWM-v08.
Question though, the instructions in the TnT installation guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245) seem to say that the market fix only is a partial fix (note that the comment applies to TnT2.2).
Now that I installed the TnT2.4.0 ROM, I was wondering if the market fix is also only partial for TnT2.4. If yes, can I run the patch at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827209
and if yes, would that give me full Market access? If not, what's involved in getting full Market access?
As a side question that may not belong here but wouldn't be answered in the appropriate forum section: I have an XT701 phone that needs a Market Fix. Would the fix at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827209
also provide my phone with the Market? Just a side question, if no answer, that's fine...
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For the market fix, just see the link that I have in my first post, in the TnT Lite thread. That fix could also work on other devices. It's the same fix in the link you just posted.
I have just bought the gTablet and am salivating at the new features the custom ROMS offer (market, no tap n crap etc)
But what are the risks?
Is there a recovery path to restore the stock rom if things don't work?
Thanks
Drew
mmsood99 said:
Is there a recovery path to restore the stock rom if things don't work?
Thanks
Drew
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I believe this is it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842000
The risks are:
1. You will not return it back to the store
2. You will not sell it
3. You will not toss it out the window
4. You will not get as much sleep, because you will be too busy modding it
5. You will have to apologize to your better half for less time spent with them
6. You will enjoy it more
etc... You get the drift....
I've decided to just go with the latest factory update (3588) and the generic enhancement pack. After loading Launcher Pro and assigning it as my home (and fixing the market and loading a bunch more apps), the tablet is fast, stable, and I'd never know that TapNTap was even on the thing. Now when Viewsonic sends an OTA Honeycomb update (Ha!) I will be able to download it.
scrinch said:
I've decided to just go with the latest factory update (3588) and the generic enhancement pack. After loading Launcher Pro and assigning it as my home (and fixing the market and loading a bunch more apps), the tablet is fast, stable, and I'd never know that TapNTap was even on the thing. Now when Viewsonic sends an OTA Honeycomb update (Ha!) I will be able to download it.
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Can you explain how you fixed the market?
Thanks
Drew
scrinch said:
I've decided to just go with the latest factory update (3588) and the generic enhancement pack. After loading Launcher Pro and assigning it as my home (and fixing the market and loading a bunch more apps), the tablet is fast, stable, and I'd never know that TapNTap was even on the thing. Now when Viewsonic sends an OTA Honeycomb update (Ha!) I will be able to download it.
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When I had the enhancement pack installed I couldn't get OTA updates.
After the latest update I switched from the enhancement pack to the tnt lite rom.
Since the rom had the update and more already.
mmsood99 said:
Can you explain how you fixed the market?
Thanks
Drew
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
You try this?
mmsood99 said:
I have just bought the gTablet and am salivating at the new features the custom ROMS offer (market, no tap n crap etc)
But what are the risks?
Is there a recovery path to restore the stock rom if things don't work?
Thanks
Drew
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If you go through any number of threads, you'll see probably the most troublesome issues are looping reboots, magic number errors and semi-bricking, I say semi because people have reported that the Gtablet is unbrickable with some work.
Personally, I also wanted to stay official but I recently moved to TnT lite 4.2.x out of wanting the updated market and not wanting to deal with multiple flashes and I've been very, very happy. So far the supplemental updates have been flawless.
There's a recovery path and I guess it generally works, but oy veh - it's a chore when you have the Tablet set up perfectly and then have it go down for any reason. With any 're-do' or switch from one ROM to another, you have to wipe your programs and settings. Some people do it without wiping, but in general that's a bad idea. So really, along with the few very pesky risks, the only other issue with venturing into ROMs is having to wipe and setup again if one gives unresolvable issues. If the typical path doesn't work, that's when you'll have to venture into APX mode and NVflash territory - that's where I dread and the reason I didn't want to get into alternative ROMs myself.
It takes a bit to put your trust into a ROM (and more so, it's author/s). So far, I have no issues at all with TnT Lite 4.2. I just went to 4.2.4. I don't ever update right away....just like I do with official updates, I let a day or 2 pass so any issues can come into the light.
At this point, I'm going to be waiting for a Honeycomb ROM, whether official or otherwise. TnT Lite 4.2.4 is perfecto so far for what I want my tablet to be/do currently, so I highly recommend it.
I'd start with TnT lite first (since I can say I have never had a problem with installing it or with it installed), if you don't like it then try the others, that is of course only if you get that undeniable urge to move forward (and you likely will).
Good Luck!
I would have to say, after flashing my gtablet at least 30 times - to try out new roms as well as make some tutorial videos, that there are so many advantages to doing so. Even nvflash and apx drivers to restore to stock is not that difficult if you are willing to take the time to get the neccessary files and read through the instructions a few times. Although I have gotten a few reboot loops (mostly through things I did wrong in my attempt to try new things and not following instructions), there is nothing that I haven't been able to recover from. The gtablet hardware is pretty darned good, and the custom roms that people here have posted are great and sooooo much better than running stock that it is night and day. I highly advise anyone who is wanting to have the best experience out of their gtablet to take the time to read up and then take the plunge - if you really mess up, there is plenty of help here on xda.
Hello,
I've had my GTab for quite awhile now and have tried quite a few custom ROMs. Some I liked a lot and some I didn't. Finally had to stick with TNT 3588 because on all the custom ROMs debugging was automatically enabled and every time I would connect via USB it would crash my laptop. It differs for everyone.
So I broke open a couple of ROMs, supplements and Gapps (google apps) I liked and cherry picked until I put together a stable enhancement package of the following:
Google Apps plus Google Market
Angry Birds
GMail
Google Services Framework
Live Wallpaper
Live Wallpaper picker
Maps
Street
Vending
Visualization Wallpaper
Voice Search
Youtube
System Framework
Google Android Maps
nvidia Display
nvidia graphics
The nvidia display/drivers were critical to getting rid of some of the bad viewing angles. My screen is incredible. This package allows you to still receive VS updates however you can access google market and connect usb as normal. Does not take away the original TNT stock - contacts, gallery, calendar, weather, etc. You can load AW launcher or Launcher Pro and all other apps with some improvements including Flash 10.2. Youtube runs best in browser for me. However, the newer "stand-alone" version will work too.
This is basically a 3588 "Enhancement Pack"
Run your updater to update to 3588 if you are not already running it and then...
Install clockwork mod 8 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008245&highlight=clockwork+mod)
Hold in power button while pressing up volume key to you see loading recovery kernel, let go, rock volume down, up, until you get into clockwork mod.
It should say at the top of the screen ClockworkMod Recovery 0.8.
From clockwork mod 8, use volume up key to go down the list until you see
-mounts and storage
then hit your home key (the little house under the search symbol on the upper right-hand side of GTab)
-mount /system hit home key again to unmount
Then move down once more and press volume up key to go to
-mount /data, again hit home key to unmount
Next, go down to the last icon on GTab, the arrow key, to return to first menu to
Find (4th down from reboot option)
-install zip from sdcard, hit home key, hit volume up once more to
-choose zip from sdcard, hit home key again
Find the folder from the file listing you put the file in. (It helps if you create a folder beforehand for all your ROMs or xda files in one folder so you can easily pan down the list having all files in one place).
Go to in your folder, hit the home key, and let the file run.
TNT 3588 Gapps nVidia Drivers download here
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?my4ohg6afnl12p3
Afterwards return to the first menu in clockwork mod by pushing the arrow key, the last key on the upper right-hand side of GTab, until you see -reboot system now. Use volume up key, go down two lines to
-wipe data/factory reset hit home key again, let run until it goes back to the clockwork mod
Then
-reboot system now menu and hit home key to reboot.
Special Note: You will have to run the market fix. First sign into market using your info, completely finish that process. You should see some apps. Go to settings, applications, system applications, Google Services Framework-force stop, clear data. Market-force stop, clear data, exit and reboot. Sometimes you have to reboot twice, but, it worked on the first try for me.
Re-open and use. This isn't the newer version, but, it does give you access to all the apps, only difference is GUI. The other version was problematic in this enhancement pack.
This Enhancement Pack is for those who may want to ease into modifying their GTab or who may want to keep the Viewsonic Stock OS until VS issues another update. Plus, have access to Android Market and Nvidia display enhancement & drivers.
As with all ROMs, supplements, enhancements, firmware or modifications, use at your own risk, should not cause any problems unless you did something terribly wrong.
edirector said:
The nvidia display/drivers were critical to getting rid of some of the bad viewing angles. My screen is incredible.
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Call me skeptical, but how can drivers of any kind improve the viewing angles? I was under the impression that the capacitive layer on the screen is what causes the viewing angle problem. Am I missing something?
lostpilot28 said:
Call me skeptical, but how can drivers of any kind improve the viewing angles? I was under the impression that the capacitive layer on the screen is what causes the viewing angle problem. Am I missing something?
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Good question but I stated display & nvidia drivers. The drivers are for the tegra 2 . And those improved the overall system.
Has anyone tried this?
Also, Where did you get the drivers from? Would you be so kind and provide us with a video showing off how the screen was improved?
I think this is going to be exactly what I'm looking for. Going to to try it out as soon as my tab gets in.
edirector said:
Good question but I stated display & nvidia drivers. The drivers are for the tetra 2 . And those improved the overall system.
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Well, technically, your post stated that the drivers improved the viewing angles. I'm just wondering how they do that since the viewing angle problem isn't bad because of the software...it's the screen itself.
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Well, technically, your post stated that the drivers improved the viewing angles. I'm just wondering how they do that since the viewing angle problem isn't bad because of the software...it's the screen itself.
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First of all, the drivers came from the devs on this site. I've tried quite a few supplements, ROMs and enhancement packs TNT 2.4, 3.14, 4.23, 4.24, 4.25 and Gapps xtra. The last two 4.24 and 4.25 was extremely fluid. Inside the 4.24 was a system/framework folder and inside the framework folder were these two files: com.nvidia.display & com.nvidia.graphics.
I cannot use the other ROMs because of the auto debugging permanently left on which crashes my laptop which I've only had a about 2-3 months and it is painful to see it go down. So I noticed when I ran 4.24 marked overall improvement with G Tab. While everyone else is saying they see issues with the screen I'm saying I don't. I have to really have it at an odd angle I wouldn't normally view anything at to see distortion. My screen is popping, mostly eye candy. I have a 3D LED laptop display and use both simultaneous and notice very little difference between the two displays. Both have nvidia chips.
Some on this website (see the why is everyone complaining about viewing angle thread) say that it is possible those who got a later model of GTAB (2011 oppose to 2010) might have gotten one with a improved screen. I can not answer that you will have to ask Viewsonic.
Try the enhancement and tell me what you think. That's all I can say too you, and you can ask the devs why they put those two files in that ROM and what purpose they think they serve. Most times manufacturers (since they say nvidia) issue drivers, firmware and such for purpose of improvement.
Is it possible to install this update by using standard recovery?
I like the classic stock 3588 interface. I would like to get market and maps.
Could you let me know if these updates can be installed by using standard recovery.
Edirector,
I vaguely remember roebeet et al were talking about increasing framerate or something like that, and I'm pretty sure that tweak made it into some of the newer ROMs, so maybe that's why you're seeing improvement?
Jim
lostpilot28 said:
Call me skeptical, but how can drivers of any kind improve the viewing angles? I was under the impression that the capacitive layer on the screen is what causes the viewing angle problem. Am I missing something?
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Add me to the list of skep...
I do not think the market will be complete without build.prop edit..
edirector said:
Some on this website (see the why is everyone complaining about viewing angle thread) say that it is possible those who got a later model of GTAB (2011 oppose to 2010) might have gotten one with a improved screen. I can not answer that you will have to ask Viewsonic.
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def gonna think about this. Kind of a newbie and still very excited for my GTab from Woot. But this doesnt seem to bad. I hope there is some sort of screen update for the 2011 Gtabs. that would be great!
P00r said:
Add me to the list of skep...
I do not think the market will be complete without build.prop edit..
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Take it up with the developers of this site, no just joking. It works I'm using it. Also, I ran the package by Roebeet before I posted it. He stated it was an enhancement pack. All it is allowing you to do is keep the VS stock, plus, add market and the nvidia drivers, nothing more, or, nothing less. You can still get your updates from VS. Perhaps, it is not for you. That is Ok but there are a lot of upcoming new GTab owners who want to mod, but maybe not totally stray from the stock OS or ease into it.
quake101 said:
Has anyone tried this?
Also, Where did you get the drivers from? Would you be so kind and provide us with a video showing off how the screen was improved?
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I'm using it now and I can install apps from google market from the app or browser. I've bought a few, both ways. All the build props and such were there, they are from the site devs. I ran the package by Roebeet before posting.
Just trying to make it easy on the new GTab owners not more difficult. I went through serious trial and error so I know how that feels, also, I have basic computer skills A+ Certification. Mainly with computers the hardware and software need to work in concert. If you listen to this enhancement package you can hear the music playing sweetly. lol
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Add me to the list of skep...
I do not think the market will be complete without build.prop edit..
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I haven't played around wth this pack yet, but you shouldn't require a build.prop change (I think). I make the following changes in the build.prop, Market related:
1- the mahimahi change (to add more apps)
2- the T-Mobile change (again, to add more apps)
3- The setupwizard Disable.
That last one is the only one I might have to test - if you do a data wipe, the SetupWizard will likely pop up. I'm not sure if it will actually work or get stuck at the first screen - honestly, I disabled it so long ago that I don't recall anymore. Too many tablets and mods.
OK, my GTAB is a dev unit so it's always getting flashed. So I looked it over.... kind of strange being a user for once!
It's exactly as stated - an "Enhancement Pack" for build 3588. It has the additional apps and drivers mentioned. I'm not sure where the Nvidia drivers originated, but they are not from build 3991.
Market works. Solid instructions there.
No standard recovery, as the updater-script is written in such a way that only clockworkmod can run it (I tried standard recovery first). My only concern there is my usual nervousness with having clockworkmod for future patching.
Nenamark scores are in the 28fps range
Quandrant is ~1800
(those match up with 3588 stock norms, tmk)
Angry Birds causes an FC (that's normal when you try to drop it in /system)
Not rooted (edirector never claimed that it was, but just be aware of that)
Overall, a good first try imo and thanks for doing this! Suggestions: Angry Birds should be removed since it can't live in /system, and although the Nivdia drivers were altered I don't personally see a difference anywhere. I know my screen angles like the back of my hand by now and they look the same to me, post-installation.
Thanks again! If anyone wants just the Market and Gmail / Maps / YouTube, this is a good firmware to use. And the lack of a build.prop is a good thing - it could conceivably run on older ROMs like 3389 (not tested of course, so stress the "could" part). Future ROMs we obviously don't know about, yet.
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EDIT: Data wipe was OK, it actually goes into the GTablet setup screen and not the Google setup screen.
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So did you walk through the rest of the package and check it out? I really didn't alter from what you were offering just included the nvidia drivers with gapp. Some of those xtra programs in the gapp were causing conflicts so I took it down to bare bones.
I liked what you did with TNT 4.25 that was really smooth until I connected the usb cable from my laptop to GTab and crashed it. I gave away my old equipment. Might have to pick up a test dummy on the cheap off ebay for such purposes. I like using the different ROMs. But since I am planning on buying another tab with a different operating system no point in buying another GTab. Thanks, for checking it out!
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So did you walk through the rest of the package and check it out? I really didn't alter from what you were offering just included the nvidia drivers with gapp. Some of those xtra programs in the gapp were causing conflicts so I took it down to bare bones.
I liked what you did with TNT 4.25 that was really smooth until I connected the usb cable from my laptop to GTab and crashed it. I gave away my old equipment. Might have to pick up a test dummy on the cheap off ebay for such purposes. I like using the different ROMs. But since I am planning on buying another tab with a different operating system no point in buying another GTab. Thanks, for checking it out!
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I updated my dup post, above yours.
I saw some of the early responses so I wanted to put in my two cents -- I hope I wasn't going over the line, I tried to review it as a any other user. It's surprisingly hard to do that, which is quite bizarre in itself.
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OK, my GTAB is a dev unit so it's always getting flashed. So I looked it over.... kind of strange being a user for once!
It's exactly as stated - an "Enhancement Pack" for build 3588. It has the additional apps and drivers mentioned. I'm not sure where the Nvidia drivers originated, but they are not from build 3991.
Market works. Solid instructions there.
No standard recovery, as the updater-script is written in such a way that only clockworkmod can run it (I tried standard recovery first). My only concern there is my usual nervousness with having clockworkmod for future patching.
Nenamark scores are in the 28fps range
Quandrant is ~1800
(those match up with 3588 stock norms, tmk)
Angry Birds causes an FC (that's normal when you try to drop it in /system)
Not rooted (edirector never claimed that it was, but just be aware of that)
Overall, a good first try imo and thanks for doing this! Suggestions: Angry Birds should be removed since it can't live in /system, and although the Nivdia drivers were altered I don't personally see a difference anywhere. I know my screen angles like the back of my hand by now and they look the same to me, post-installation.
Thanks again! If anyone wants just the Market and Gmail / Maps / YouTube, this is a good firmware to use. And the lack of a build.prop is a good thing - it could conceivably run on older ROMs like 3389 (not tested of course, so stress the "could" part). Future ROMs we obviously don't know about, yet.
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When you hit the google market through the app it will automatically recognize it and ask you to update it. You are correct about angry birds. So you don't have to remove it, if you don't want to, just go to the market app and let it do the work.
Thanks, for the encouragement. It's your work essentially, I just mixed a straight cocktail no tonic mix. Some of us are learning. Also, I didn't think to put cwm in there, because I usually side-load it on after flashing. A very good point and noted.
Edit/ answered my own question, nice write up!
How do I include the Google Calender with this pack? Already have the pack installed, then realized the Calender was missing. Thanks.
I am currently running tnt lite 4.2.3. I updated to that directly from stock. The performance I'm getting is less than many people on here say they are getting (i'm getting a quad score of 1730). Everything is working (marketplace, maps, etc) and i'm relatively pleased, but it still seems quite slow. I should also mentiong angry birds won't install for some reason. I'm not sure if i did something wrong or skipped something (i never did anything with partitioning my memory). I was thinking about starting all over again, but i noticed there are several "starting points" for tnt. Can someone recommend which version I should revert to and direct me to the best way to do it please? Thanks in advance.
Hmm weird, Ive been getting nothing less than 2050 on all scores for every rom Ive used and I think the going rate for the tntlite is 2400! You might want to try to reflash it maybe
nmac99,
Since your tablet is working fine (though I agree it sound a little slow), you have lots of options. TNT Lite 4.2.3 is the older 1.0.1-1.1 generation of software, so you can
change simply by re-flashing using stock recovery.
I have a suggestion. I just completely wiped and rebuilt my 3991 version machine and
I install roebeet's 4.3.0 and then 4.3.1. It worked smoothly and really looks nice since
it has some of the latest stuff in it.
Since you are at 4.2.3, all you would have to do is download 4.3.0 and 4.3.1 and
install them. Load recover folder and update.zip into /sdcard. Shut down. Reboot
into recovery by holding power and volume + down until you get the black recovery
message.
Go to roebeet's thread in Developers and read up and see what you think.
If you decide you're not interest in that, then I would recommend recoverying the same way to Version 3588. It is solid and you could go any direction from there. And
again, all you would have to do is flash it with stock recovery process. You might
need to reset the factory data (Settings menu, Security Option on G-Tablet). If so,
you would have to put your date, time, other settings, passwords, etc. back in.
Hope this helps!
Rev
P. S. -- I think 2100-2200 is realistic for Quadrant. Less you're behind and more you're ahead!
EDIT: Just found the Tnt Lite 4.3.2 is out. Happy modding!
I'm actually adding a new recommended pre-req to my TNT Lite and gADAM posts, today -- basically, I'm going to request that users try to start with 3588 stock as a baseline.
The reason why is because I think users who are modding back and forth all the time have started moving too far off the beaten track. When I test a new mod, I almost always do it with either 2967 (from my nvflash) or 3588 stock. And a do a data wipe. That way, it minimizes all the weird issues that might crop up if I was many steps away from stock.
Thanks for the quick replies. This board is awesome.
ive installed tnt 4.3 with no problems except i cant get the market to work. I tried the same fix i did on 4.2.3 and it doesn't work. i can initially get it open, but then it force closes after about 5 seconds and i get the process com.android.vending error. is there something else i should try with 4.3? or is it best just to reflash? by the way, i really like the look of 4.3 compared to 4.2.3. i haven't been able to run the quad score either, but it feels faster.
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ive installed tnt 4.3 with no problems except i cant get the market to work. I tried the same fix i did on 4.2.3 and it doesn't work. i can initially get it open, but then it force closes after about 5 seconds and i get the process com.android.vending error. is there something else i should try with 4.3? or is it best just to reflash? by the way, i really like the look of 4.3 compared to 4.2.3. i haven't been able to run the quad score either, but it feels faster.
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It is a tad faster, as the system.img is based off their 3991 UAT - allegedly their next released stock firmware will look and feel very similiar.
I have not had an issue with the Market and 4.3.x, but again I always wipe my data when I test my mods.
Suggestion: if you didn't wipe data and want to avoid doing that, make sure that the Market app is REMOVED from your downloaded applications. It's possible that the app there is the same (or older) than the one in 4.3.2. Just taking a complete guess, here.
It worked with the data wipe. thanks for all your help.