Hey folks, im thinking of buying an hd2 and i have a few questions. I have searched quite a bit about porting to android, but i have a few questions unanswered.
First off, can i unlock the hd2, port it, and then use it on att's network?
About the voice issues, are they fixed? i read up on it and i couldnt get a sure answer, all i read was it was a problem with the radio or something.
itsyasuperman said:
Hey folks, im thinking of buying an hd2 and i have a few questions. I have searched quite a bit about porting to android, but i have a few questions unanswered.
First off, can i unlock the hd2, port it, and then use it on att's network?
About the voice issues, are they fixed? i read up on it and i couldnt get a sure answer, all i read was it was a problem with the radio or something.
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You can use an unlocked HD2 on AT&T, but you won't have 3g. AT&T uses a different frequency for their 3g.
Most of the android builds I've tried work great. You will have to flash HardSPL onto your phone and flash on a new Android-friendly Windows Mobile ROM. Check out the ROM Development under the HD2 forum. There are several tutorials on how to do all this.
Currently there is no permanent ported android build yet as in nand.
The android its either running in your SD card or RAM.
With HTC HD2 you have dual boot to Winmo & Android.
Depending on Winmo ROM & Radio & Android build will get stability.
So you can try diff ROMs & build to test out.
Thank you for such a quick reply, so just to be clear the voice issue ive heard of is fixed? and i can unlock the phone and use it with att and put android on it as well? i dont use data much so 3g wont be missed much.
voice issue depends on the version of radio rom of ur HD2.
roughly told it is fixed (be frank, so far I haven't encountered this problem from my day 1 lol)
Honestly, why would you buy an HD2 if you want to run Android. As wonderful as the development here is, it will most likely never be as stable or bug free as a device which runs Android natively.
I'd much sooner buy an HTC EVO or Desire HD. In fact I'm tempted to try and sell my HD2 to get one.
I'm by no means trying to put down the work of the Devs, they do a fantastic job and are very close to what I would call a stable build for daily use. But seriously, you will find Android on the HD2 frustrating at the best of times when compared to a device which is designed to run it.
P.S - This should not be in the development forum.
hd2 running andriod
hi im new to the forum thing but i know a bit about phones the hd2 running android is a very good option for you there are a few issues still effecting hd2s at the moment one is mms cannot recieve or send mms (pic msgs)and the other issue is the bluetooth its not a major issue as you can get a blutooth app from the store i run a build that uses the ram of my phone to speed up the build and i havent had any problems with it as of yet and its a lot quicker if your new to flashing i would just put the build on a 8gb sd card (you need to set it up first )but its a lot quicker than the normal builds that run from the sd card
if you have any problems let me know and ill get a reply asap
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Honestly, why would you buy an HD2 if you want to run Android. As wonderful as the development here is, it will most likely never be as stable or bug free as a device which runs Android natively.
I'd much sooner buy an HTC EVO or Desire HD. In fact I'm tempted to try and sell my HD2 to get one.
I'm by no means trying to put down the work of the Devs, they do a fantastic job and are very close to what I would call a stable build for daily use. But seriously, you will find Android on the HD2 frustrating at the best of times when compared to a device which is designed to run it.
P.S - This should not be in the development forum.
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I want an hd2 because its sort of a cheaper alternative for me to use than to buy a samsung captivate or vibrate, and its one of the few GSM phones with its kind of specs at its price. Also ill be switching carriers in 6 months so i just want to use it until then.
And everyone else, thanks for the info, you've been a great help and if i need help ill ask again, and i wont try to clutter the forums, i didint realize there was a Q&A forum, my bad lol
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867842
If you use AT&T get a AT&T phone. . . Not because of any real reason except native carrier devices really do work better.
I had a unlocked iPhone forever and no 3g sucks. Even if you don't use it much, it's a waste not to have it.
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Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867842
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Wow, i wish i had seen this before, sorry for the post and thanks alot for the help
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Hi All,
New guy here, and I was thinking about putting Android 1.5 on the Sprint TP2, rather than WM 6.5. (Again, new here, so I'm assuming that, once this HSPL is released for the CMDA, it could work equally well for WM or Android.)
I'm wondering if anyone has tried Android on the TP2 at all and, if so, your thoughts and opinions on this unusual pursuit?
Thanks in advance!
Sorry: CDMA
Not CMDA. I'm a little out of league here.
Sprint is CDMA and it is possible for that to happen. However, you would need an experienced cooker and most guys here are windows mobile guys.
Android is just now starting to fully work on the vogue and has been in the works for quiet some time. The original Touch Pro is still unable to run it. IF the TP2 will see androind, it will be a long time before that happens. Why not wait for the Hero if you really want it?
To be honest, it's because I adore the full qwerty keyboard. I have a really difficult time on touch-screen keys. Additionally, engadget's review of Hero rated its hardware to be a little underpowered for Android. I'm simply sold on the Rhodium.
Your right on it being underpowered. The problem is, porting it to WinMo is hard since they have 2 completely different kernals.
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To be honest, it's because I adore the full qwerty keyboard. I have a really difficult time on touch-screen keys. Additionally, engadget's review of Hero rated its hardware to be a little underpowered for Android. I'm simply sold on the Rhodium.
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Same reason I want the TP2. Never had WinMo device but that keyboard is the best I've seen on any Smartphone. I'd recommend putting a Sense UI theme on it, that's what I plan to do. Or PointSense Suite.
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To be honest, it's because I adore the full qwerty keyboard. I have a really difficult time on touch-screen keys. Additionally, engadget's review of Hero rated its hardware to be a little underpowered for Android. I'm simply sold on the Rhodium.
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A new firmware version has reportedly solve most of the issues with sluggishness. More than likely, the sprint version will have this at launch. It should be nice and snapy. The only things keeping me from waiting for this over getting the TP2 are the lack of a keyboard, the screen size/resolution, and the fact that it might not support SERO. It's okay though because I haven't bought it yet and I'll still be in my 30 day time window if I want to return the TP2 and get a Hero.
I'm really wanting Android, but it just hasn't gotten to the specs I want yet. However, I have to say that the Sense UI on it is about the most amazing thing I've ever seen on a phone. I know they say it's coming to WiMo, but I'm just not confident it will be that fast or as good as the android version.
A lot of phones really dont get optimized right away. Its kinda sad cause it brings the value down. Like the Hero is a great phone, but I geuss you need a ROM update for it to be optimized better.
The TP2 is actually extremely optimized right out the box since it has the same specs as the original, but it is a lot faster.
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the fact that it might not support SERO
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I've been told by several Sprint reps that Everything Plus (the new SERO and the name I was told my SERO plan already has) can be used on the TP2 and that the price will remain the same for me since I'm grandfathered at that price. We'll see what happens when I get it tomorrow and try to activate it with my current plan.
I have android running on my vogue, with is probably the most advanced port currently. We still do not have functional bluetooth, GPS does not have all functionality, and a small number of us (seems to be the cdma folks) have problems with intermittently not having SMS and phone calls show up. It is a great port, but still not ready for heavy everyday use if your phone has to be 100% reliable; many people do use it as there primary OS.
Just trying to say that even on the vogue we are not "there" yet, it is likely very possible on the TP2, but will take modification of the kernel and other files to adapt to your hardware, and won't be perfect.
How about the latest 1.6 donut on TP2? 1.6 supports the display resolution!
Link:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/android-16-sdk-is-here.html
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How about the latest 1.6 donut on TP2? 1.6 supports the display resolution!
Link:
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/09/android-16-sdk-is-here.html
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it's a lot more than just resolution. dip into the multiple vogue android threads if you are compelled.
Man, I bet getting the memory map would help out the port a lot. Wish HTC would release that.
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I've been told by several Sprint reps that Everything Plus (the new SERO and the name I was told my SERO plan already has) can be used on the TP2 and that the price will remain the same for me since I'm grandfathered at that price. We'll see what happens when I get it tomorrow and try to activate it with my current plan.
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Are you talking about the $30 500 minute plan or the newer ESRP that is like $10 bucks cheaper than the normal plans? Either way, I know that the TP2 will work on it.
Donut!!
Supports CDMA and the higher resolutions... Please Devs work on this! I will pay money to have it! This will be the perfect combo of phone and OS. I hope this happens.
The biggest issue here is the bootloader. No one, that I am aware of, has modified a bootloader to allow the direct booting of Linux. Also, writing to the flash memory if I remember correctly was the other issue, but please do correct me if I am wrong on this aspect.
Poke_N_PDA said:
A new firmware version has reportedly solve most of the issues with sluggishness. More than likely, the sprint version will have this at launch. It should be nice and snapy. The only things keeping me from waiting for this over getting the TP2 are the lack of a keyboard, the screen size/resolution, and the fact that it might not support SERO. It's okay though because I haven't bought it yet and I'll still be in my 30 day time window if I want to return the TP2 and get a Hero.
I'm really wanting Android, but it just hasn't gotten to the specs I want yet. However, I have to say that the Sense UI on it is about the most amazing thing I've ever seen on a phone. I know they say it's coming to WiMo, but I'm just not confident it will be that fast or as good as the android version.
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I agree COMPLETELY. Having spent some time with an iPhone, I have to say that onscreen keyboards, even in landscape mode, still suck.
Another thing I'd worry about with the Hero... not being able to install programs to a microSD card. I know that is an Android issue, not a Hero issue... if they could fix that, I might be able to get over the low resolution and lack of keyboard.
Where are they talking about putting Sense UI on Winmo 6.5?
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I agree COMPLETELY. Having spent some time with an iPhone, I have to say that onscreen keyboards, even in landscape mode, still suck.
Another thing I'd worry about with the Hero... not being able to install programs to a microSD card. I know that is an Android issue, not a Hero issue... if they could fix that, I might be able to get over the low resolution and lack of keyboard.
Where are they talking about putting Sense UI on Winmo 6.5?
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HTC said that Sense is on its way to WinMo via TF3d. Nothing new really. If you see the TF3d 2.5/2.6 setups, they resemble it a lot. Obviously, there are things that can't be the same (the way widgets and icons on the "desktop" appear, etc) due to OS limitations, but the core technology is being put into WinMo.
Installing programs to SD card is coming in 1.6. So no worries there.
I totally wish the Touch Pro 2 could run Android. My girlfriend has the HTC g1 and I love the application market. It's really awesome.
The keyboard is the major awesome feature about this phone. I used to have an Instink which is now EXTINCT and I could not deal with the crappy on-screen keyboard. I actually broke it once because I hated it so much. I plan on shooting this one Record it in full glory and post it on youtube for other poor Instinct users.
I would pay for an Android conversion. Totally.
Hi folks not been around for a while. ive been away from the sharp end of wm for a while and am looking to upgrade my mobile soon
I run my own company (very Small) and need to invoice Create and email) on the go and being able to print via bt would be good as would have decent on device storage aswell as expandable sotrage
currently im using an iphone 3gs but want to get back to wm as i feel its more flexable
i use my devices for navigation, chat as i work away from home all week so the question would wp7 work for me or would be better going for somthing with 6.5 or is android a better option
Hey, so welcome back then
Man, thats a subjective question and one that ALOT of people are asking.
Tricky, because if your using an older wm device but want the speed and goodies of a newer one, what do you do? Wait for wp7 or steam straight in and get an HD2 or later Droid device?
I had exactly this choice to make 2 months ago. I was telling myself to hold out until Christmas and get a wp7, but i couldnt wait that long
I bit the bullett and got myself an HD2. Why you ask?
THe new stock roms (HTC stock 3.14 available for only the past few weeks) are fast and with the newer radio means i can run android from my microsd (8gb class 6) without the need for hardpsl (just in warranty and its a work device). So i have the best of both worlds with wm6.5 and android.
And who knows for the future, perhaps we will get wp7 running on the hd2 afterall?
Which ever way you go, whether thats a hd2, droid such as desire hd for example you wont be disappointed. (you prob know this but you cant run winmo on a droid device, hence the reason for my choice )
Good luck!
tell about it went iphone to see what it was like and feel im locked in to it dont get me wrong its good device for my needs but lacks something that i cant put my finger on. for me mainly bluetooth printing as this is something i really do need on a regular basis we cant upgrade till january
from what ive seen wp7 does look good but as usual i think ms will totally miss the boat as usual
the mrs wants the desire so shes sorted
personally with the recent reports of LBS advertising being used in the back ground unknown to the user on android it does give me cold feet a little with the os
Hi guys,
I need to buy a PDA. I have 3 devices in my budget:
X10
HD2
Desire
Which one to go for? I am more leaned towards HD2 with a hope that it runs Android with all functions (including Camera / Good battery life + no issues with Mic for Incoming / Outgoing Calls) & it will also support WinMo7.
Please share your opinions esp. for HD2 vs Desire
sounds to me like you have already made up your mind
hTC Leo: You can have both Android and WM, and perhaps WP7
hm..
But how is your experience with LEO running Android? battery will survive for one day? or less?
Any problems with Calls?
My experience is great
all works almost same as in Android native devices , battery lasts less than in WM but can make it a day.
Not any prob with calls really.
@orb:
Are you using any WinMo ROM on your HD2 or is the default one?
i was going through a Thread where almost majority of the people were not happy with HD2.. may be because of the Stock ROM?
Of course I´m not using stock!
I flashed to a cooked ROM since day 1, have a read on Leo section so you´ll find out what members think of this super device!
Desire, i think thats why better than HD-2, unless your the guy who wants to switch to OS's everyday
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@orb:
Are you using any WinMo ROM on your HD2 or is the default one?
i was going through a Thread where almost majority of the people were not happy with HD2.. may be because of the Stock ROM?
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I use the latest stock ROM for my HD2 on O2, never had a problem with it.
Also install SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 as I find it a better interface.
What do you actually want to use your phone to do though?
Most people from what I've read run android on their HD2 because it's cheaper than getting a desire HD, they don't really flip between the two.
What sort of user will you be?
Yup want to use it for Android with a hope that WinMo7 will run on it one day
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Ok in that case there's no hope for you
Your option is the HD2 as I doubt WP7 will be ported to an android phone.
Have you played with WP7 yet?
I seriously recommend trying it out in a shop if your choice is android and WP7, because if you discover WP7 is not for you, it's better to find out sooner and then just buy an android phone.
Hi guys.
i know some people will say this has been asked before, but i am posting from the date from today.
I want to buy a HD2, but i don't know whether it is the right time...
Because now it has the success of WP7 and Android, I'm wondering if ti is still worth it. The hardware seems abit old now, but it is essentially the same as a HD7.
ATM, i have a TG01, (snapdragon 1GHz WINMO, resistive) So i'm experienced with the speed But however, in our forum, there are soo few active members and cooks - not much support. the resistive touchscreen and Also the lack of RAM is driving me insane. (only 55mb on boot with sense 2.5 + winmo 6.5.x) So one reason of the HD2 is the RAM and the screen... On the other hand i have a tab. It isnt just mine specifically it is my family's. So i dont get to use it all the time and personalize it. (the orange san francisco isnt mine anymore btw, i gave it to my brother)
So i only really have a TG01. I have been using Winmo for a long time, but now everyone is making the switch to Android. So if i get the HD2, will i have good battery life performance etc. I will probs be using WP7 and Android. Is WP7 working perfectly yet? i know we can access the live sevices but will microsoft be continually be patching it? All my friends are using android.. should i use android on the HD2 or just get an android device?
And the hardware... do you think it is still powerful enough? how much longer will the community last for? When i got my Tg01, within 3 months the XDA forum was empty! they all sold and got an Android device or HD2.
So i get it know will the timing be right? Will devs still be cooking for WM and upgrading Android etc? Or will they move on? Because i see alot of members selling their HD2 for a DHD or other android devices. I dont think i can afford a DHD...
I'm really stuck here... I don't know if i should get the device or not... Should i wait? Or wait for what device? I know when the dual cores come out, they will be far too expensive!
Where can i get a cheap HD2 from? Can any one point me to one £150-£180?
Thank you to all who reply!
Searched, and haven't found a thread on this.
I'm due for an upgrade in July on my Sprint line, and I was almost certain I was going to go with the EVO 3D (when it comes out), but then I saw the HTC Arrive and kinda liked it. The thing is, though, that I really like Android as well. I know dual-booting Android was possible on the Touch Pro 2, so I was wondering if it's possible to do the same thing with the Arrive/7 Pro, or if having Windows Phone 7 prevents it from being able to do this. Thanks!
It cannot be done as of now.
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The HTC 7 Pro has the same SoC as HD7 and HD2, and both of them already have Android.
Why Android still can't be ported for 7 Pro?
I'm pretty sure that hardspl must be available before we can flash custom roms on our pros. More imporantly some sort of application like haret for WM6 but for WP7 would probably also need to be developed first. Hopefully some fine day it will all be possible like on the HD2.
i was looking at how they dual boot with hd2, and it looks like they boot from sdcard, and flash wp7. we shouldn't need to flash wp7, but booting android is sdcard boot. so i see no reason why we can't boot from sdcard, unless we need a special boot loader, and the boot loader they need doesn't have the access to wp7 to get the boot loader working properly and that goes beyond me please correct me if I'm wrong.
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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Just got my Arrive from Evo. LOVE IT. My Fiance loves it aswell surprisingly and she is getting one soon :]. Atleast untill Evo 3D..
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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thanks for your opinion....
exilkubaner said:
thanks for your opinion....
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not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
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not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
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and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
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and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
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its not fragmentation thats an issue for consumers its malware, there have been numerous reports about this already, im not an iFan either
I really don't care whether you or anyone says android is worse or better than wp7 but it would be nice to switch if one wants to. so when there is a thread discussing the possibility to port android on the 7 pro, there is no need for no-sayers, since they can occupy their brains with other stuff.
i would love to see this, but especially since there is only 1 sd-card, its either flashing one or the other i think...
Not possible on wp7 YET
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Hello all,
I am new to mobile phones and I would like to post some questions, which are general in fact, but closely related to the topic and the Arrive device.
I would like to have another OS on it and I have found a way to change the SD cart it is running with, so I should be able to change or modify it with no trouble.
I imagine that I could find another HTC device with identical hardware and deploy it's ROM to this one in a manner similar to HD2's approach. I am so new that I already can feel how dumn is that ... but still.
I need to clarify some basics in order to know what to look for. First of all what does the firmware does and how it is related to the OS. Can I imagine it is something like BIOS, which controls the main hardware like processor, ram, telephony, etc? If so what stops me of formatting the SD and booting another system from it on the same hardware.
Another thing is what the ROM contains and how it is related to the OS. I am with the impression that it has everything in it -- OS distributive, firmware backup and bootloader maybe. If that is correct am I free to cook a ROM that contains the same firmware (as I imagine it like a BIOS alternative), the bootloader of another system and its distributive? Of course the ROM that is already on the device may and most probably will try to stop me, so I will need to somehow format it.
I do not express myself too good due to lack of expertise, but I know computers and I believe you will know what to tell me to straighten my thoughts.
Thank you in advance for any information you provide.
Sincere,
drel
At this stage, pesonally, I think wp7 is the best os to me. At it is not laggy as android does and looks more beautiful than iOS...
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Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
drelisimo said:
Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
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just buy an Android phone!
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
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I think what you meant to say was "Why would anyone have a different opinion than my awesome opinion?" As much as I love WP7 I'd love to be able to use Android with this chassis. Choice is always good. There is no Android phone with this keyboard.
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Bump. Having no Bluetooth SPP has just pissed me off for a year. About to get an Galaxy Nexus S come May, so I don't mind tinkering with my Arrive for now.
hello?
Any news about dual booting android on arrive / HD7 Pro? I read the thread and some users just talk crap. " Why this? Why that?" Why not, may I ask. I Love WP7, i really think that beats the crap out of everything else. But why can't we dream of having android too? As far as I know, Android has at the moment much more apps ( free and payed ones ) available than WP7. My brother-in-law has veetle ( just an example ) on his Xperia S, and he can watch live football/soccer which I can't cuz there is no veetle available. And who can name veetle, can name many others too. The point is: Combining the best of two worlds would makes fully profit from our beloved phones, which we payed ( at least I did ). I really hope that some news about this stuff.
Best Regards
Miiky