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Rooting and ROM upgrade question

Noob question: If I root my stock AT&T Captivate, will I need to un-root to upgrade to the final Froyo ROM when it is released?
Thanks...

You should be able to update just fine if you are rooted. I was rooted and had no problem updating OTA ATTs last update. That being said, consider the cognition ROM if you want to get the best system with the least amount of work.

Is it possible to disable OTA updates from ATT if you have a custom ROM and don't want to risk getting things screwed up?

daesdaemar said:
Is it possible to disable OTA updates from ATT if you have a custom ROM and don't want to risk getting things screwed up?
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The OTA isnt automatic. It will notify you if there is an update, but not automatically install it for you

rooting is simply just adding files to your system. No stock files are deleted. You should be able to OTA just fine while rooted and nothing else.

orlandoxpolice said:
rooting is simply just adding files to your system. No stock files are deleted. You should be able to OTA just fine while rooted and nothing else.
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I did an ota while rooted. Worked no problem. Even kept the root after the install.
From a phone on an app

boborone said:
I did an ota while rooted. Worked no problem. Even kept the root after the install.
From a phone on an app
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I call bs, there were way too many threads about the problems rooted users had updating.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

I had no problems doing the ota while I was rooted, lag fixed and partial bloatware removed. However on my new captivate the ota failed so I updated using kies mini and it was like I did a factory reset and I had to do a factory reset because my ext system was there but one click root didn't recognize its and said I didn't have enough space for fix.after reset I had no problems.
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Dell2 said:
I call bs, there were way too many threads about the problems rooted users had updating.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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Obviously you didn't read enough. I posted in half of em a well as others like the guy above this post who had no problems. Might wanna lower the bs flag. Lots of people have problems, most don't. Just cause one guy posted his doesn't mean the other 99 have the same issue.
If you mess with the rom, you will have issues with any phone with any ota update.
From a phone on an app

Dell2 said:
I call bs, there were way too many threads about the problems rooted users had updating.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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the problems were due to more than just rooting

Nokia E71
daesdaemar said:
Is it possible to disable OTA updates from ATT if you have a custom ROM and don't want to risk getting things screwed up?
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Hi, do you know how to root an Nokia E71? Can it be rooted/unlocked?
Thank you.

EpicSaga said:
Hi, do you know how to root an Nokia E71? Can it be rooted/unlocked?
Thank you.
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This is the Captivate forum. Please post to the proper forum and always do a search before starting a new thread. The user you responded to probably does not have that phone anymore, but you'd be better off sending him a PM rather than posting to the wrong forum.

EpicSaga said:
Hi, do you know how to root an Nokia E71? Can it be rooted/unlocked?
Thank you.
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LOL...
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holy necro thread batman

Jailbreaking/rooting
daesdaemar said:
Noob question: If I root my stock AT&T Captivate, will I need to un-root to upgrade to the final Froyo ROM when it is released?
Thanks...
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Hi I am trying to help my friends with a phone that they are going to buy. I only know that it is a Nokia E71. I need to know if they can root it or jailbreak it. I need to know which one. Can they tether with it? Thank you. I had to Google the question and it took me here. Hopefully I can find my way back to this part of the forum!

GSM phones
I don't know if there are any GSM phones listed on this site. I entered in the Nokia E71 info in the "find your device..." box in the top right hand corner on the screen but nothing came up. I was wondering if anyone knows if the phone can be rooted or jailbreaked and if it can be used for tethering. I don't know if GSM phones from Walmart's Straight talk plan are hackable. If you would let me know it would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou.

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Miami_Son said:
This is the Captivate forum. Please post to the proper forum and always do a search before starting a new thread. The user you responded to probably does not have that phone anymore, but you'd be better off sending him a PM rather than posting to the wrong forum.
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Thank you, I just got your message after posting more in this forum.

How to downgrade to 2.1 and install newest firmware (Captivate)

Take the following steps to downgrade to 2.1 and download the newest firmware for the Samsung Captivate.
1. Master Reset
2. Revert to Stock 2.1 (using odin oneclick)
3. Download MINI Kies from samsung's website
4. reboot phone
5. plug in captivate
viola! took me awhile to figure it out but i got it... testing the ground for when the official 2.2 comes out.
2.2 was laggy for me... while the features are great I hate when things do not work correctly. Let me know if this worked for you.

Jh7? Our is there a newer one
Yay no more fc

still JH7 but no more lag!

How exactly do I revert back to Stock 2.1? Where do I even get it?

HawkSlayer86 said:
How exactly do I revert back to Stock 2.1? Where do I even get it?
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how exactly did you make it into the DEVELOPERS forum?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989

Way to be a ****. I did more searching and I'm fine now. Why must people be such assholes to people that ask simple questions? You're gonna get far in life bro.

HawkSlayer86 said:
Way to be a ****. I did more searching and I'm fine now. Why must people be such assholes to people that ask simple questions? You're gonna get far in life bro.
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are you mad bro?
i dont care.

HawkSlayer86 said:
How exactly do I revert back to Stock 2.1? Where do I even get it?
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Use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989

Thread moved to General. Thanks for the guide.

Yeah thanks dimab. I found that when I did more searching. Thanks.

MrCambron said:
this thread sucks, i used the search feature to try to find the 2.1 download for my captivate... but i get this useless thread...
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the info you read is 3 years old. look at the date! the thread subject is misleading.
search the stickies in the captivate development forum. you want a 2.3 stock rom, gingerbread, as starting point. not 2.1
sent from one of my two SGH-I897 Captivates

Samsung official FROYO firmware release

Official samsung firmware is out!!!
No more having to hackup custom froyo ROM's from the I9000.
I'm downloading Keys mini to get my hands on the firmware. Is anyone using this as a base for a custom ROM?
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=558&AT_ID=368733

Where have you been? First, so many posts about "official" 2.2. Second its one two ROM's so far, Cognition 4 and Torch 1.0. Lastly. Get with the pace and read!

Ugh,i thought this was the source...

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id10terror said:
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Lol
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Unbelievable! Doesn't anyone bother to even look at the thread titles before posting? Zelendel, do that thing that you do so well.

I am aware of Cognition 4 and Torch but I did not see them mention that they are using the latest firmware as base.
Also, how did they build a ROM on the new firmware 2 days ago (when cognition 4 came out) when the firmware was only released today? I never even saw a leak for the newest samsung firmware.

I wish there is a 'No Thank You' button that decrement the Thank You points to negative.
Also, how did they build a ROM on the new firmware 2 days ago (when cognition 4 came out) when the firmware was only released today? I never even saw a leak for the newest samsung firmware.
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Where have you been? It was leaked and posted here on Monday (2/21).

foxbat121 said:
I wish there is a 'No Thank You' button that decrement the Thank You points to negative.
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HAAARRRR HARRR HARRR...sooo funny

g1ddy said:
I am aware of Cognition 4 and Torch but I did not see them mention that they are using the latest firmware as base.
Also, how did they build a ROM on the new firmware 2 days ago (when cognition 4 came out) when the firmware was only released today? I never even saw a leak for the newest samsung firmware.
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you also didnt see about three hundred threads involving 2.2's release...can we address this issue first?

rjblack11 said:
you also didnt see about three hundred threads involving 2.2's release...can we address this issue first?
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I was going to tell you how I probably did not see those threads because I usually only browse through the development threads but how do you expect a respectful answer with that attitude mister?
Do I need to call your mommy?

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What was the 73mb upgrade I got today?

It took a while to download and rebooted once. What was it?

Look under Settings>About Phone>Software Information>Software number and let us know what version it reads. Also, are you on the stock software or were you rooted with a custom rom?

kxs783kms said:
Look under Settings>About Phone>Software Information>Software number and let us know what version it reads. Also, are you on the stock software or were you rooted with a custom rom?
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I'm stock, not rooted.
Build number is new. It's now 1.70.605.0
Android 2.2.1

http://htcpedia.com/news/clock-on-htc-thundrbolt-dock.html said:
A recent over the air update for the HTC Thunderbolt that was rolled out in the beginning of July 2011 brought a fix to the clock when docking into the official HTC dock.
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i'm sure this isn't everything in the package.

That is the update that was rolled out on 07/08. The main point of this update was to fix the random reboot issue that plagued a large number of Thunderbolt owners. There were some other minor improvements, such as the option to turn off 4G. Enjoy this update, as the next one (Gingerbread) is still a mystery as to when it will come.
Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk

Froyo update... more stability to prevent random restarts and a lot more junk apps that VZW is pushing on up

Its the MR2 update. When I first got it I thought it was gingerbread.... only to have my hopes squashed...

Topsnus said:
The requirement to post at least 10 times before being allowed on the dev forums is to stop spam. It seems counterproductive because it causes 10 spam posts like this one.
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How about actually helping out someone with your posts and then you would be productive. Or go to the xda general section and complain about it to get your posts up.

Topsnus said:
The requirement to post at least 10 times before being allowed on the dev forums is to stop spam. It seems counterproductive because it causes 10 spam posts like this one.
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What spam? Do you work for Verizon?

[Q] 2.3.3 to 2.2?

I'm a bit confused. I've been reading online for a while, and don't fully understand the ROMs available and what not. (I am a computer programmer, so I'm fairly tech savvy).
Basically, my evo shift has 2.3.3. I did a factory reset hoping it would back down to 2.2, but it did not. Now, I'd like to install 2.2 so I can root my phone. Is there a way I can do this? I've also seen a few roms (ie: evervolv) that are rooted. How can I install these (i'm using a mac).
Also, what do you guys recommend? Should I install a ROM, downgrade to 2.2 (how?) and root, etc?
Thanks!

You cannot downgrade to Froyo.. Sorry. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218580
Sent from Gingerbread Speedy 4G

You can only temp root right now with 2.3 on the Shift. A factory reset just wipes everything and basically gives you a clean OS...it's like getting a new phone. The good folks at HTC should be releasing the the source code and kernel between now and EOL of the phone.

lvpre said:
You can only temp root right now with 2.3 on the Shift. A factory reset just wipes everything and basically gives you a clean OS...it's like getting a new phone. The good folks at HTC should be releasing the the source code and kernel between now and EOL of the phone.
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I like that EOL= end of life that's a pretty circumspect time line Lmao(not at you )but that's prob what'll happen. Oh shoot gotta get back to FB time to post again!

This thread makes me lose all hope in people's ability to read or search to see if these types of questions have been asked

YoungCorruption said:
This thread makes me lose all hope in people's ability to read or search to see if these types of questions have been asked
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/\ valid
Sent from Gingerbread Speedy 4G

YoungCorruption said:
This thread makes me lose all hope in people's ability to read or search to see if these types of questions have been asked
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Agreed, I don't get why people can't read.

gigermunit said:
Agreed, I don't get why people can't read.
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When ppl aren't sure what they are reading they have to ask. It may seem stupid to ppl who aren't new but to someone new, I can see it happening, especially if they don't want to brick their phone!
just my 1.5 cents worth

Yeah, I've read lots. I posted because it's good to have clarification.
I've read that you cannot "downgrade" to 2.2 from 2.3, but that doesn't necessarily answer my question if I can flash a 2.2 ROM..
I know 2.3.3 isn't rooted yet, but that doesn't necessarily mean I can't flash a ROM with an older, rooted version (very common in modchips for gaming systems.. If the company releases an update, you can usually re-flash the chip to the old update and be good to go).
So, it seems that if my phone is 2.3, my *ONLY* option is to temp root, is that correct (impossible to reflash, reprogram, etc)?

n_pertuset said:
Yeah, I've read lots. I posted because it's good to have clarification.
I've read that you cannot "downgrade" to 2.2 from 2.3, but that doesn't necessarily answer my question if I can flash a 2.2 ROM..
I know 2.3.3 isn't rooted yet, but that doesn't necessarily mean I can't flash a ROM with an older, rooted version (very common in modchips for gaming systems.. If the company releases an update, you can usually re-flash the chip to the old update and be good to go).
So, it seems that if my phone is 2.3, my *ONLY* option is to temp root, is that correct (impossible to reflash, reprogram, etc)?
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You need root and recovery (or the old hboot) in order to flash anything. So yes, until a new root method is found your only option is to temp root.
Sent from Gingerbread Speedy 4G

Evo 4G's 2.3. update now rooted with Revolutionary
Maybe someone will find a way to get support for our Shift with Revolutionary

supergear said:
Maybe someone will find a way to get support for our Shift with Revolutionary
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Well I keep tweeting to them and on their FB page maybe we need to turn our attention to them,in a kinder ,gentler way if ya know what I mean.

this thread depresses me.
I dont know if its because this has been asked 30,000 times
I dont know if its because it is posted in the wrong section
I dont know if its because it makes me want to spam HTC again
I do know that it makes me want to throw my shift out the window

notsointeresting said:
this thread depresses me.
I dont know if its because this has been asked 30,000 times
I dont know if its because it is posted in the wrong section
I dont know if its because it makes me want to spam HTC again
I do know that it makes me want to throw my shift out the window
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Gouldn't agree more. I'm tired goin to take a nap gonna be a long night and Monday's always the worst.

supergear said:
Maybe someone will find a way to get support for our Shift with Revolutionary
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FdxRider said:
Well I keep tweeting to them and on their FB page maybe we need to turn our attention to them,in a kinder ,gentler way if ya know what I mean.
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They already tweeted they are working on it for the shift -_-

gigermunit said:
They already tweeted they are working on it for the shift -_-
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Why do I keep missin those,damm fat slo-typin fingers of mine!lol
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YoungCorruption said:
This thread makes me lose all hope in people's ability to read or search to see if these types of questions have been asked
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I've noticed that these types of posts asking the same question for the millionith time always start out with "I've searched all over and read every thread". Weird, huh? Why would you start off on the defense unless you already know that you're asking a redundant question?
^ Shift Faced

jesusice said:
I've noticed that these types of posts asking the same question for the millionith time always start out with "I've searched all over and read every thread". Weird, huh? Why would you start off on the defense unless you already know that you're asking a redundant question?
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lol right and all i have to do is look through the first two pages and BAM 5 threads asking the same question some even one the first page if they just scrolled down like 2 inches

Moved to General and lucky you that i didn't close it.
No one care to read stickies?

af974 said:
Moved to General and lucky you that i didn't close it.
No one care to read stickies?
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Move it to Been There, Done That
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