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Hello everyone,
I just lost my HTC Desire to my sister, since her Nokia 6630 lost its live just about a day ago.
She just grab my Desire and leaving my SIM-card behind. (Stupid is, she knows my all of my password and pin numbers on that phone...I guess she was spying on me for quite some time)...well...she did play the games inside my Desire...a LOT!!
I am really stupid!
Well...She talks more than I do on the phone...so...I guess I have to accept that..I am busy writing my master work at this moment...and I don't wanna have a fight with her ...not at his point of time...(I assume she knew that too).
The problem is, I don't have enough money to get a good smartphone which can match my "previous" Desire. Legend, Samsung Galaxy S, Galaxy Tab, etc. are way too expensive for me right now,
and HTC Wildfire can not meet my expectation.
Well...I can still make phone calls with my ..stupid Nokia 1800...It is juts...something big is obviously missing on that pile of plastic..
Now, I am thinking of getting an Archos 70 8GB Internet tablet, which will be there soon enough.
It will cost about the same price as Wildfire, but with more capabilities (at least according to the spesification).
So..I think...perhaps, I can use that along with my (stupid) Nokia 1800 Phone.
but, the thing is...I have never used anything from Archos before.
Can anyone post your experience using Archos previous Android tablets?
Is the company any good by the customer service?
Anything?
Pleaseeeeeee......
Hmmm...still no replies for days in this forum and several others, which I have posted...
Even my closest friends don't even have a single experience on Archos...
Perhaps I should rethink about getting a tablet PC from Archos.
Check out archosfans.com if you want to talk to people who are familiar with the brand. I had portable archos mp3/media players back before ipods became the standard, but I haven't used their products in quite a few years. The newest android tablets are interesting, especially since they're considerably less expensive than ipads and gtabs, but until I get a chance to hold one I'll refrain from any judgments.
Considering that the newer tablets coming out by Archos are Android, I would love to see xda development for them and eventually a section for Android tablets.
TS
Get a orange san francisco, 512mb ram, 800x480 oled screen, 2.1 pre loaded and a custom 2.2 rom available, also its unlockable for less than £5.
Archos's new Android tablet line is coming out as we speak. I just received word that mine was shipped today, so it should be here tomorrow ... I pre-ordered a 101 tablet.
I hope that xda development will come on this as it takes off (apparently there were too many pre-orders made that many sites shut down the possibility)
I am a first-time buyer of their products, so i can't comment on their customer service level .. and actually not on their product quality either.
but I'll be happy to report back once I get my hands on it tomorrow
Well...finally I have a cheap Android with vodafone branding on it...
Hehehehe...I bought it and flashed it with LeeDroid 2.2e.
Hehehehe...
aaa said:
Well...finally I have a cheap Android with vodafone branding on it...
Hehehehe...I bought it and flashed it with LeeDroid 2.2e.
Hehehehe...
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Hmm...experience...LeeDroid you mean?
My impression until now :
Somehow faster than stock ROM, apps are installable to SDCard (most important), Desire proc become OC-able (not doing it), stable, slight improvement in battery live, still has Sense (third important), DSP manager become available (second important), performance gain for 3D games (fourth important) .
I like also the Desire HD rom (RCMixHD), but too bad that the camera is not working and I went back to LeeDroid.
I wanna try several other roms but I will play with LeeDroid for the time being first.
I can only speak on Archos as a brand.
They are fantastic. THEY not Apple are the leaders in multimedia portables and have been for a decade. Mp3,Portable vide,tablets etc. Archos always has a product in the top 3 in each category the last decade.
I cant speak on tablets though. But Ive owned and purchased for others numerous Archos products. Love them.
xManMythLegend said:
I can only speak on Archos as a brand.
They are fantastic. THEY not Apple are the leaders in multimedia portables and have been for a decade. Mp3,Portable vide,tablets etc. Archos always has a product in the top 3 in each category the last decade.
I cant speak on tablets though. But Ive owned and purchased for others numerous Archos products. Love them.
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Too Late!
I already got myself an HTC Desire
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Too Late!
I already got myself an HTC Desire
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well a phone is not a tablet and vice versa. in fact, a good android phone and an archos tab pair very well together, with wireless/Bt tether.
I have an HTC evo, and an Archos 70it (new Gen8).... froyo should be on the archos within days which will then give me exactly what i want in terms of portability and technology.
smart phone -> tablet -> laptop -> desktop ... a tool for every job, and a home server that serves media and files to all of them, wired and wireless, anywhere in the house.
sry... bit OT, but simply loving my tablet and it is a great addition. froyo will perfect it.
Considering that you have the EVO and the Archos, are you using the built in hotspot or wifi teetering or pdanet?
actually neither yet - i'm blanketed with wifi so it's not a necessity. i will be testing for fun tonight but have had some other things take priority.
planning to just do the wireless tether. rooted the evo here and used wireless tether with my laptop about a month ago, figured the same would be fine for the AIT...
i also read about BT tether available, may try that but idk the pros/cons yet...
edit: I'm in NY as well, not the city though - in the Adirondacks.
havnet played with it yet :/
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actually neither yet - i'm blanketed with wifi so it's not a necessity. i will be testing for fun tonight but have had some other things take priority.
planning to just do the wireless tether. rooted the evo here and used wireless tether with my laptop about a month ago, figured the same would be fine for the AIT...
i also read about BT tether available, may try that but idk the pros/cons yet...
edit: I'm in NY as well, not the city though - in the Adirondacks.
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The archos doesn't support ad-hoc wifi networks, so just make sure if your device creates an "ad-hoc" network, then it can't connect
However bluetooth tether works (I still have a g1 and I'm bluetooth tethering to my A70)
I have an HTC EVO also and I got an Archos 10.1. I had a previous Archos MP3/Video player from way back. Can you tell me since my phone is not rooted is there anyway I can tether. Goling to Vegas in a couple weeks and room doesn't have wifi. They have free internet but no wifi. I need to tether with Archos off EVO and Vegas has 4G which I don't have yet. Thanks,
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well a phone is not a tablet and vice versa. in fact, a good android phone and an archos tab pair very well together, with wireless/Bt tether.
I have an HTC evo, and an Archos 70it (new Gen8).... froyo should be on the archos within days which will then give me exactly what i want in terms of portability and technology.
smart phone -> tablet -> laptop -> desktop ... a tool for every job, and a home server that serves media and files to all of them, wired and wireless, anywhere in the house.
sry... bit OT, but simply loving my tablet and it is a great addition. froyo will perfect it.
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I was told PDA Net didn't do Android to Android but I heard there is some free wireless tether for non rooted phones but I don't know if it will work Archos to EVO. I replied to a post above and didn't finish reading where someone kind of asked the same thing. Sorry!
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Considering that you have the EVO and the Archos, are you using the built in hotspot or wifi teetering or pdanet?
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I want one of these and I can go get one from my local staples. Is this tablet worth it?
I know we have root and such but is the tablet going to be fast enough to support 2.3 or 3.0 when it launches. I know its the dual core tegra but all the reviews say this thing is slow.
Feedback ?
its slow with the stock interface. once you root and replace that with zpad, its pretty zippy. ive got no regrets yet, and i almost constantly have regrets after spending a little cash on electronics.
I'm in the same boat... I've been looking for a tablet, non iPad, and saw this in the black friday ads for Staples. Just noticed that there is no price difference between now and those ads. $400. So I'm tempted to pick one up. I have a Epic 4g and enjoy how android 2.1 works so far. I think the hardware sounds good just hesitant because of software issues... but as much as I know those will be ironed out by the smart people on these forums. I may just pick one up tonight.
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I'm in the same boat... I've been looking for a tablet, non iPad, and saw this in the black friday ads for Staples. Just noticed that there is no price difference between now and those ads. $400. So I'm tempted to pick one up. I have a Epic 4g and enjoy how android 2.1 works so far. I think the hardware sounds good just hesitant because of software issues... but as much as I know those will be ironed out by the smart people on these forums. I may just pick one up tonight.
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379 sears (thanksgiving, not black friday 7am-9am) source bfads.net, with 2 micro SD cards and a case.
I added a general FAQ here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842899
I tried to lay out some of the current pros and cons, so feel free to look it over. Everyone's needs are different. I happen to like mine and plan on keeping it.
i originally purchased one, then i was lucky to grab 2 more that were refurbs, and i have been using all the builds here plus ones i have been trying to get stable of my own, only to find that it is nearly impossible to truelly screw this thing up beyond repair, not saying it isnt possible, just saying it is hard to do it.
i like the rothnic builds as the zpad builds are based on hardware that is identical to the gtab, but sold under another name malata i think. that is not to say that all the hard work robeet has done is not great as his builds are highly stable as well. Great job to both guys.
i currently have 7 builds of my own. the first two are not based on zpad, which are the ones i am having a major issue in figuring out what i am screwing up. on the 5 other builds, i am using zpad as my base and adding a very trimmed version of andriod 2.2. i am trying to keep everything to only what works all the time everytime in my zpad builds, where the two non zpad builds are based on my own version of the kernal, could be my whole problem, but neither are stable yet. for me to release my 5 versions, small differences with how games load, flash, utube, and some office stuff...apks...would not help anyone as rothnics builds and those who helped him are superior to mine as of today. hopefully, i will figure out my culprit that is causing my issues within the builds.
i will only release what will work 100% of the time that i create, otherwise, i am only congesting the forum with useless crap and not actually helping anyone...
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379 sears (thanksgiving, not black friday 7am-9am) source bfads.net, with 2 micro SD cards and a case.
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The nearest sears that will probably carry it on thanksgiving is about 100 miles away... so I might just bite the $20 bullet and freebie SD cards and case and pick one up tonight.
If I ever get free time I'd love to get involved with the development... just always busy with other stuff.
The core of the tablet is a dual core 1Ghz Tegra 2 w/ 512 mb of ram. Its very close to the fastest ARM hardware running Android atm so 2.3 will be no problem. Nobody can tell whether 3.0 will require dramatically more powerful hardware but its doubtful considering 600mhz Droid 1s are running 2.2 just fine.
That said, the ability to support isn't the issue here. The problem is with official support from Viewsonic. They need to release their source for any devs to be able to get deep enough to upgrade to a new build (correct me if I'm wrong here). Barring that they would have to release their own version of updated Android. Considering the condition of the initial build I am not hopeful Viewsonic or the OEM will supply this support so long after purchase.
While not having the latest Android version is going to suck, its not going to reduce the functionality of the device. I think this hits a sweet spot atm. Its not nearly as expensive as the Galaxy Tab but it gives you something to mess around with until the real Tier 1 tablets come out next year. The Galaxy Tab is still build on the same non-tablet OS so investing $600 at this time doesn't seem wise. In addition, the powerful hardware keeps hope alive that this tablet can be brought up to snuff even in a year when we'll likely have 1.2 dual core 1gb tablets.
i do not think they will support it, or only for a very short duration, which is why i am trying to develop something.
according to a customer service person, it is cosmetic issues nothing highly important, which leaves me unsettled.
picked mine up today, with high hopes for this tegra chip... but so far viewsonic has managed to destroy what could and should be a sweet set up... havent been able to push a rom onto it yet, still looking to root but even still my EVO blows this thing out of the ocean, lets be honest here... did they pull this screen from some speak and spell from the 80's?
and you with guys with the epics are going to laugh when a movies playing on it
its late, so in the morning i'll get back with how it fairs with a root and rom dosage
ohh ya... whats with the constant wifi error? out of the box a wifi device should at least connect to WIFI, unless viewsonic was going for a true 80's speak and spell
Stopped at staples last night and grabbed one. I'm looking for an instant on web browser/video player. Coming from my epic the screen sucks but nothing I've seen compares to my epics screen. The stock device is pretty laggy but I'm about to flash a custom rom and try that out. I have 14 days to return and staples said they would take it back no questions asked. Ill post more later.
I think with the upgraded rom with the dell home and flash is great, and now that we have the full market I can't bring my self to return it. .. lol
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rodzero said:
its slow with the stock interface. once you root and replace that with zpad, its pretty zippy. ive got no regrets yet, and i almost constantly have regrets after spending a little cash on electronics.
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+1.
Get it at Sears for $340 with a $50 replacement plan. Can't go wrong there if you flash it and break it... No regrets here either. If you are like most of us cruising this forums for cool stuff, you will love.
Can't see myself owning and iPad and be just like everyone else. I have yet to see to Android devices (from Android fans) that look the same....
If you install all the fixs here this thing rocks.
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If you install all the fixs here this thing rocks.
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- Returned 1st one after 2 days due to constant loops (wanted to exchange but no stock).
Lots of force closes with stock firmware + external sdcard / usb stick unrecognized.
- Picked up 2nd one and replaced with Zpad 1106 firmware:
* Very Zippy, have not experienced FC's so far.
* External sdcard / usb thumbdrive work fine.
- Now my son can have my old 12" Dell XT!
I have a wifi xoom and although it has some great features but the force closes and the non functioning sd card (from the factory) is very annoying. I thought Moto and google would have a fix by now. The force closes make me mad. I have 15 days left to return and will do so if there is not a major update before then. I should have know better than to expect Moto to do anything right.
Here is an quote from an article in the Wall Street Journal about xoom sales.
"Global Equities analyst Trip Chowdry estimates that Motorola Mobility has manufactured between 500,000 and 800,000 Xooms, but has sold only 5 to 15 percent of them.
Best case scenario then, according to Chowdry, is that Motorola has sold 120,000 Xooms; worse case scenario, it’s sold just 25,000. Now, admittedly, that’s a very large range, and one could argue that it makes Chowdry’s estimate largely meaningless. But remember that original forecasts suggested Motorola would sell between 3 and 5 million Xooms this year and earlier this month some analysts were calling for first quarter sales of 300,000.
In other words, even Chowdry’s best case scenario is a worst case scenario. It’s just a bit less ugly."
Personally, I could care less how many have been sold. I love my Xoom and maybe I'm lucky but I haven't faced many of the problems I read about here.
As for SD card support, I'm not bothered by that either. I have no need for a SD card at this time. 32GB is plenty of storage for me.
I'm treating Honeycomb the same way I did with android 1.0. Its basically a new platform and the apps and fixes will come as more tablets hit the market.
I heard all the same jargon in the media after I pre-ordered my G1. Well look at android now.
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Personally, I could care less how many have been sold. I love my Xoom and maybe I'm lucky but I haven't faced many of the problems I read about here.
As for SD card support, I'm not bothered by that either. I have no need for a SD card at this time. 32GB is plenty of storage for me.
I'm treating Honeycomb the same way I did with android 1.0. Its basically a new platform and the apps and fixes will come as more tablets hit the market.
I heard all the same jargon in the media after I pre-ordered my G1. Well look at android now.
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I feel the same way. No announcement was made as to when an update would come. I'm sure everyone knew the SD slot wasn't functioning way before they purchased the device.
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It will be DOA if we keep starting threads like "Is the XOOM DOA" and prospective customers see all these threads in search engines.
Then prospective customers start having unfounded doubts and the XOOM's demise becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy.
First of all, many of us knew that Xoom won't sell that well. This is because it's new, OS is new, hardware is new, everything about it is new and many people don't want to be lab rats. But with Moto rolling out Xoom on other networks in many countries will help sales. And we will have to wait till Thursday for Motorola to announce their earnings and see how many they sold.
Secondly, I understand the frustration of lacking SD support but I personally don't really care since I never really used my microSD on my N900.
And about force closes, like I said everything about Xoom is new and it was first to the punch. Other honeycomb tabs will have everything working, but Xoom was still first and that what counts.
I would never return mine, I would never even sell mine after Xoom2 arrives. Why? Because it is the first and maybe even one of the only "Pure Google Experience" devices that will be available.
Simple answer. No.
Sent from my Xoom the way it should be, rooted and with SD card.
Google needs to release a big Honeycomb update including one that enables the mircoSD card slot, Motorola needs to lower the price and release 16GB models and more manufactures need to release more tablets which will bring in more tablet apps. If you had your Xoom since day one like I have, you will already see the improvement in the selection of tablet apps. I hope that the microSD card slot is fixed soon though. Watching the new tablets come out with working slots is starting to make the Xoom look abandoned.
Despite this, I love my Xoom and it will get better with time. Who else has a working Barometer by the way? lol
i don't care about the sd card function cause i still have 32GB for my media. however, i have a terrible experience with my xoom's web browser ( even i tried another web browser apps like dophin...)Yes, surfing web is the main point for me to buy this tablet. Web browser is FC a lot (besides, it made my xoom rebooted once), stuck at loading pages (i have to go to app manager=> force close web browser..), Flash doesn't work properly. I never had this terrible experience with my android devices before. I understand that Honeycomb is a new OS, and it will be improved over by next updates but how can't google/motorola/ adobe make sure some basic functions work well before selling their products ?
What would have all the customers who went to buy an ipad2 have done when they got to the store and were told they would have to take a number and wait a month or more? BUY A XOOM!!! This was great timing for Moto to deliver the product but kinda sucks for the consumer at first. However, this is not the first time a company has done this. And as someone laready pointed out, if you have had the Xoom from day one you will have already seen the improvement in the app market. Also remember that the honeycomb source has not been released yet. When that happens you will see things explode here on XDA. So if you have filled up your 32g internal storage, and their just are not enough apps for you at this time and so on........return your Xoom and take a number for the ipad! (it has Netflix out of the box). If you are one of those people who just like to complain, well then I got nothing for you. Otherwise be patient and enjoy what you have. Good things WILL come to our Xoom's!!!
For the record: I have NEVER considered an ipad. And I am very happy with my Xoom!
I just don't get these type of posts. So because you hated the xoom or the wsj says it hasn't sold enough everyone else should go and return their xooms. What should I get an I pad 2? What if I want my websites to work with flash? What if I want actual multitasking? So get an I pad 2 that doesn't even have an SD slot forget when it will be activated.
Anyway, I have been happy with the xoom.
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I just don't get these type of posts. So because you hated the xoom or the wsj says it hasn't sold enough everyone else should go and return their xooms. What should I get an I pad 2? What if I want my websites to work with flash? What if I want actual multitasking? So get an I pad 2 that doesn't even have an SD slot forget when it will be activated.
Anyway, I have been happy with the xoom.
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i don't want to get a lot of FC on my web browser. this is the only thing i complain.
I want the Xoom to work. I do not own a single Apple product. I am not patient enough to wait months for the Xoom and Honeycomb to work. I want to be able to root and load new themes and Myn's Warm Honeycomb but Google has already said they would not release the sources code anytime soon.
If no one is buying the Xoom, the developers will not develop apps and it may never reach the point where it is a commercial success. I will stick with the Xoom if a significant upgrade comes very soon.
Everywhere I go the xoom seems to be sold out and people are constantly asking for it. It may not have that "Apple" demand but people are interested, I love mine, cant wait for some more apps and updates to come out so it will be a beast!
this post is DOA
This is the beauty of Android, It doesn't matter about the Xoom Google will keep developing 3.0 and onward.
with Apple if interest in a new product dips it dies!
Thats why clean OS's like the xoom will always win the day and thats why extra software just slows down development!
there is more sense in nonsense
remember that!
We do need a way to release frustration and these blogs are it. This is a first honeycomb version, effectively a beta. On the other hand, I feel for Motorola, as when that update comes long, they will have to spend millions double handling the already sold Xoom.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Xoom, and I can see its potential.
I am sure one of the reasons people are not buying Xooms is that thay'd rather wait until it is finished, and some more of bugs are squashed (See googles bug tracket) the SD card is one of the lesser problems.
When that happens we will be riding a steeper adoption curve that will scare apple a little.
I found that every store in the st. Louis area that carries the xoom was sold out so I had to order mine from amazon (not a big fan). So its a bit shocking to hear that sales are bad. Maybe they just didn't make enough. Maybe its been selling fine for motorola and its the market that had unrealistic expectations.
In any case, I think as more manufactures produce more honeycomb tablets the momentum will pick up just like what happened with android phones. The g1 did not exactly fly off the self when it was introduced. Hell I didn't which from blackberry until recently.
Some of this is part of being an early adopter. I mine the ipad2 is simiply a scaled up iphone so no surprise that it works well the os has been out for some time. Honeycomb is a much bigger jump for android and therefore the problems
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The crazy amount of FUD surrounding the xoom makes me wonder if there's some propaganda machine in operation.
I don't even think that the problem is the software or bugs. I think the main thing that hurt the Xoom is price. After announcing the price Motorola did not listen to consumers and they stuck with their pricing, which ultimately hurt the success of the xoom. Prime example is the Asus Transformer, they are flying of shelves, not because of the dock as much as the price.
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I found that every store in the st. Louis area that carries the xoom was sold out so I had to order mine from amazon (not a big fan). So its a bit shocking to hear that sales are bad. Maybe they just didn't make enough. Maybe its been selling fine for motorola and its the market that had unrealistic expectations.
In any case, I think as more manufactures produce more honeycomb tablets the momentum will pick up just like what happened with android phones. The g1 did not exactly fly off the self when it was introduced. Hell I didn't which from blackberry until recently.
Some of this is part of being an early adopter. I mine the ipad2 is simiply a scaled up iphone so no surprise that it works well the os has been out for some time. Honeycomb is a much bigger jump for android and therefore the problems
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HC is new, but overall it is still based on android. Why does it have a lot of bugs?
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From what I have seen so far ... stores are sold out, dont have accesories, (which means it is obviously selling out) and in best buy the tablets are with the computers (not with the tablets!), how are people/consumers supposed to know about it and that it is a tablet that is better than the pad when there is a big ipad2 display while the xoom is over by all the laptops and when you ask for it they take you to the zune stuff?
Oh well, and from what i have seen lately, displays are popping up, I have seen more commercials on tv, and now I hope store start stocking it to show it off.. that is the only way to sell it. I think the xoom will do just fine and as it was mentioned earlier in this thread, xoom will not die because android will not die, just wait and see
XOOM FTW!
Hey All Check this out..
This is what i asked Viewsonic on Facebook.
Hello,
can you please let us know when we will start to see the release of Gingerbread 2.3 more stable version with the correct nvidia drivers. Nvidia is willing to work with viewsonic to get a stable and decent working rom for the gtablet. I know this seems odd but there has been about 4 tablets released after viewsonic gtablet that are currently runing Android honeycomb 3.0 and the Gtab is still running froyo 2.2. It is time for a upgrade guys. Please.
Also can you please release the source code for 1.2 to the devs this way we can get better roms built in the 1.2 boot-loader.
This is the answer that i got back.
1. When will we start to see the release of Gingerbread 2.3 more stable version with the correct nvidia drivers?
Answer: The gTablet is based upon nVidia's Harmony platform. Unfortunately, nVidia has chosen not to provide driver support on Harmony for either Gingerbread or Honeycomb.
2. Approximate release date of the source code for 1.2 to the devs this way we can get better roms built in the 1.2 boot-loader.
Answer: A release date is not yet scheduled.
This is what i replied back to them.
Hello
Thanks you for you response. There are a couple things.. Nvidia is not dropping support as per this Link and Nvidia directly. Please see this link. http://briefmobile.c...ms-drop-support
This is up to Viewsonic to push google to support Gingerbread and Honeycomb. Nvidia is willing to provide any kind of support for their recent and their upcoming products.
Also we are all patiently waiting for the release of a stable version of gingerbread. I know that google is holding off on releasing honeycomb but they are not holding off on gingerbread. It has been out and available to all. I would like to know from you as to an approx date as to when we will see this.
thanks
It Looks like viewsonic is Dancing around and playing games again..
What do u guys think...??
I'm going today to get a Xoom or Iconia A500 which unless they're the best thing ever, will be returned in the next 45 days for an Asus Transformer. Viewsonic's tablet is fine for browsing and reading docs/ebooks, but I find their lack of wanting to take excellent hardware and make it even better with excellent software disturbing.
muqali said:
I'm going today to get a Xoom or Iconia A500 which unless they're the best thing ever, will be returned in the next 45 days for an Asus Transformer. Viewsonic's tablet is fine for browsing and reading docs/ebooks, but I find their lack of wanting to take excellent hardware and make it even better with excellent software disturbing.
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Why would you buy a new tablet to return it less than 2 months later?
muqali said:
I'm going today to get a Xoom or Iconia A500 which unless they're the best thing ever, will be returned in the next 45 days for an Asus Transformer. Viewsonic's tablet is fine for browsing and reading docs/ebooks, but I find their lack of wanting to take excellent hardware and make it even better with excellent software disturbing.
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Yeah Why return? I love the A500.. why get the transformer? It doesn't have a rear camera flash or a USB port directly on it.. ips screen a plus yes, but not that big of a deal.. and the A500 will also have a keyboard dock too
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.. and the A500 will also have a keyboard dock too
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First time hearing this. Interesting...
To bad we cant get Nvidia to work with our devs. They are obviously more productive then Viewsonics.
US Merchants is (and always has) been the support mechanism for G-Tablet.
Apparently, Viewsonic has just thrown us to the wolves by passing the buck on that.
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First time hearing this. Interesting...
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I'm pretty sure he's confusing the A500 with the W500. The W500, as a Windows tablet, has a dock. The A500 doesn't have the latch slots on the bottom like the Transformer and W500 (which has two holes, one on either side of the docking port, like the slots on the Transformer). There's no way for the A500 to stay secure in a keyboard dock.
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Why would you buy a new tablet to return it less than 2 months later?
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A selfish person is prone to selfish, self serving acts
Would you ask a wasp why it stung you, it's in the DNA.
I can't stand this mentallity of I'm not hurting anyone, it's a big corporation.
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I only use my GTab for surfing and catching up with broadcast shows, via XFinity. I've got full blown laptops and desktops for more challenging endeavors.
At some point I'll get something like the specs on the Transformer, but I can wait.
LGCubana said:
A selfish person is prone to selfish, self serving acts
Would you ask a wasp why it stung you, it's in the DNA.
I can't stand this mentallity of I'm not hurting anyone, it's a big corporation.
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I actually agree with this statement. The rest of us have to pay a higher price for everything because there are always people wanting to take advantage of the system. A long time ago when I worked as an LEO, one night I forgot I had a mic attached to my uniform and made a politically incorrect statement. I had just arrested an illegal immigrant for DUI. While I was checking his vehicle for towing, I said to the tow truck guy "it's people like this guy that's making the rest of us pay more for our insurance." Well, that comment came back and bit me in the ass later.
I still stand by that comment, and I don't care how politically incorrect it was. People who use loopholes in the system make the rest of us pay a higher price for everything. Retail store theft each year cost us consumers hundreds of millions of dollars. And people who buy something to just try it out and then return it in a couple of months cause us all to pay a higher price for the said product. They also cause those who genuinely did not intend to use it for free but for one reason or other had to return the product can't return it for full refund.
I love my current profession a lot more. I don't have to be politically correct all the time like before. If I see someone taking advantage of the system at the cost of the rest of us paying for it, I say it.
Anyway, back to the subject. The gtab works wonderfully for my purposes. I currently use froyo, and I can't imagine myself moving on to ginger anytime soon. I like stability and speed a lot more than the latest and greatest.
That said, VS really is alienating us by being so resistant to supporting their own product. Until they get better with their support, I will not buy another VS product.
Gtablet could be good/Viewsonic Bad.......
Tried the a500, bad quality on the hardware so returned (qc dep failed on my unit, screen not seated correctly. Viewsonic had a hit, but have really dropped the ball on follow thru! Locking the bootloader was a strong message of intent. Here comes the heresy, bought a win7 tablet (CTL PC2go). As android will not yet do what I wanted a tablet for (everything from surfing to running programs storing transfering files,remote admin, watching netflix on the go, excel word powerpoint, corporate grade security). The build is excellent hardware quality wise, good horesepower for the buck too. Viewsonic goes in my never again bin (some companies have lost thousands of my dollars by getting into this bin). I am old school(cause I am older), every dollar I spend is an economic vote, and viewsonic is going to learn one day, gain a customer, treat them right, and you will soar as they sell your product for you, and buy from you again and again. Disregard a good customer, and they will tell twice as many to avoid you! Nice gadget, but without support that is all it will ever be!
just to let everyone know up front I am not considering any apple tablets, so please do not suggest them
I've been looking at the HTC Flyer, the Samsung Galaxy tab, but am not sure if there are any other decent tablets out there between 7'' - 12''
budgets is about 200-400 quid
I'm just having a hard time making a decision, I'm not bothered about 1080p playback 720p is fine with me, must have a decent processor/gpu as I like to play alot of games as well, must be android only
at least 5mp camera, preferable with the option of being able to root and ICS
do i get a 3g sim or non 3g? what the heck do i do?
hdmi out is a selling point, dual core is a selling point
I won't be making calls on it but I might want to use 3g+ on it if im out and about
rooting and customisation very important
any one got any decent suggestions,
EDIT:
GOT THE XOOM IN THE END, WHAT A TABLET!! its freaking amazing
I hear the Tab is quite good.
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mox123 said:
just to let everyone know up front I am not considering any apple tablets, so please do not suggest them
I've been looking at the HTC Flyer, the Samsung Galaxy tab, but am not sure if there are any other decent tablets out there between 7'' - 12''
budgets is about 200-400 quid
I'm just having a hard time making a decision, I'm not bothered about 1080p playback 720p is fine with me, must have a decent processor/gpu as I like to play alot of games as well, must be android only
at least 5mp camera, preferable with the option of being able to root and ICS
do i get a 3g sim or non 3g? what the heck do i do?
hdmi out is a selling point, dual core is a selling point
I won't be making calls on it but I might want to use 3g+ on it if im out and about
rooting and customisation very important
any one got any decent suggestions,
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This should help you choose lol
droidfather.com/VideoCategory/Android-Tablets
The Asus transformer series are really nice, I'm looking around to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab myself soon, it looks quiet promising.
I would recommend the Motorola Xoom. The development for the device has been stellar, the devs are awesome and has an unlockable bootloader. Cm9 and other wonderful custom roms like Team EOS nightly builds are solid, fast and will make others envious. The Xoom feels solid and is well built. The screen is not as nice as the ones found on the Asus transformer or Samsung Tab but it isn't bad either. Those other screens also have their cons due to the nature of their technology. There have also been a decent amount of complaints about Asus build quality and Samsung lack of timely updates. The Xoom was the first to get ICS, the first to get a cornerstone build, the first to be officially supported tab for Cm9 and continues to have the latest android enhancements via Team EOS roms. Also the proprietary charger charges the xoom pretty fast and the accessories are cheap now due to it being out for a while. Because it was the first to market, it doesn't mean the it is obsolete. I got a bit of a bad rep in the beginning due to screw ups on Motorola part but all is well now.
I have a 4g Xoom and use it every day. I run the Team EOS nightlys, with the device overlooked to 1.4 (i can get 1.6, but not needed) and undervolted to save juice. Feel free to check out the development thread to verify my claims. Cheers!
what about the xoom 2?
i actually like the look of the xoom 1 but the xoom 2 doesnt look great, whats your thoughts
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what about the xoom 2?
i actually like the look of the xoom 1 but the xoom 2 doesnt look great, whats your thoughts
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Don't get the xoom 2. The bootloader is locked, there isn't nearly as much dev support, no custom roms, no micro sd card slot (deal breaker), more expensive and not all the much of an improvement. It also isn't a Google experience device.
Yea, this I will admit the the screen is better and the writing tech is nice. But you will kick yourself for not going with a better supported device. Before I purchase anything, I checked to see how the community support of the device is and recommend that others do the same. I don't want to solely rely on manufacturers for support.
To be honest I would wait for the Windows 8 tablets if you truly cannot buy an Apple device, as all of the Android tablets still suck(to put it mildly). The iPad is just in a whole another league right now, and ICS didn't make the situation any better. They all lag like crazy, even the 7.7 inch Exynos-equipped Tablet from Samsung. The tablet experience just isn't there yet for android.
What ever you do never get an LG V900 or V909, cant be rooted, or just shortly until you reboot.
Unless you like stock and no root.
Have a look to the Acer Iconia 501.
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To be honest I would wait for the Windows 8 tablets if you truly cannot buy an Apple device, as all of the Android tablets still suck(to put it mildly). The iPad is just in a whole another league right now, and ICS didn't make the situation any better. They all lag like crazy, even the 7.7 inch Exynos-equipped Tablet from Samsung. The tablet experience just isn't there yet for android.
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Wow really? What tablets running ICS have you owned? My Xoom running Team EOS ICS 4.0.3 is smooth an rarely lags.
The ipad hardware is in another league but the software is still Crap. What good is having all of that power and design but only being able to do 1/4 of what an android tablet can do? Also you are limited to whatever apps Apple deems fit in their one appstore. The other other alternative is to jailbreak and uses cydia. Don't even get me started on having to rely on a pc or mac to back up apps and settings usin itunes. On android I just use titanium backup and clockwork recovery to make a full back up to my micro sd card. I have been through that Crap an will never go back. Have you?
I also like how people are assuming windows 8 is going to be the answer for everyone. It can't run your normal desktop apps, I will be more expensive, it will be locked down, possibly more vulnerable due to it being based of windows and missing so awesome features due to limited api access or something similar. Keep in mind the Android was never intended to take on desktop OSs and the ios doesn't come any closer to accomplishing that. ios is worst. I don't care if here are 200,000+ apps, how many fart emulators and angry birds clones do you need? I how many apps do people on average even bother downloading from the appstore? I can tell you it is not 200,000 or even 50.
I will admit that the stock rom may have its issues, the custom roms usually fixes and enhances the user experience. I have only used the Motorola Xoom and Asus Transformer. Both have Cm9 and Team EOS ICS 4.0.3 nightlys available for them that run like butter. I never use stock rom.
ICS is there in tablet experience and will be getting better with release of 4.0.5 and 4.0.4. I wish people wih limited hands on experience would stop making blanket general statements. Not having the opportunity to tinker wih various hardware and software is one thing, but being unsatisfied wih the out of he box experience is another. This is XDA, experiment, create and discover.
ASUS Transformer Series are good and popular
@runhopskipjump: Way to go turning this into an Apple vs Android thread. Read any reputable review site that actually have an objective viewpoint on the matter and you'll come to realize exactly what everyone else has(except for some die-hard android fans): the android experience does not translate well onto tablets yet.
I love android, and have been waiting on an android tablet that would match the iPad, like the SGS did with the iPhone, but alas no tablet has done so yet and with the new iPad, apple leapfrogged the android manufacturers by a year, again.
The only tablet I would even remotely consider is the updated Transformer Prime TF700, but that won't be out until June.
Windows 8 is going to bridge the gap between the PC and Tablet space, allowing tablets to run desktop apps and vice versa. I hate having to have two devices, when one should be enough. The battery life of the current crop of Windows 7 tablets just isn't quite there yet and is the only obstacle keeping me from buying one, and I am hoping that the arm version of Windows 8 is going to remedy that.
thats the problem alot of the hardware does suck, however with the tegra 3 having only 1 gpu core compared to a5x's 4 gpus,
i think apple did the right thing here but I can't support a company like apple
the transformer prime sucks and they have made a new model of the same prime tablet due to issues with the back aluminum and some slight enhancements,
so in a way there is a flaw with those tablets right there and to overcome those you need to purchase the even new model of the prime,
I don't want to be running around, I just want something that will work hardware wise, and the software I can work around with custom roms,
tab
i would chose the samsung galaxy tab
I really recommend you TAB from Samsung Galaxy family
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I'm very satisfied with my galaxy tab 10.1
Covers all my needs, has great ROMs - I've only tried overcome, but there are others - and is overclockable.
Now that I've found the switchme app - me, my wife and child all have our separate accounts on it.
Whatever you get, make sure you have enough internal space for such an app.
It's very convenient for more than one user to be able to have their own google account on a tablet, since they often are shared my more than one user.
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its such a hard choice as they are all good but only one is going to be bought,
I wish I could make up my damn mind
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its such a hard choice as they are all good but only one is going to be bought,
I wish I could make up my damn mind
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If money is no object, you have two choices. Either you want a tablet can double down as a netbook and you go for the upcoming ASUS Transformer tablet (skip the Prime, I've heard from several people that it has connectivity issues), or you're more into consuming media, in which case Samsung Galaxy Tab is really good.
At this point it slowly starts to become a matter of taste. The top competitors are pretty close to each other. I'm curious about the upcoming Google-branded tablet too - I kicked the HTC Sense to the curb after a mere 2 weeks and replaced it with AOSP, so I don't put great trust in third party shells.