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While at the store a Viewsonic showed up and was asking me what I though about the unit, he assured me that Dec 16th would be a turning point for the device and joked that they rushed the unit to the market with the firmware being horrible. In fact he said it was a -2 on a scale 1-100, Lol, I agreed and told him the update was better but still not worth the 379.00, he then told me to root it or wait till Dec 16th that the update will add flash and several other features but will make the unit run optimizing both cores and currently it was only running on 1.
I am getting closer to thinking about buying it, I overall like the unit and I am not disappointed with the display it is decent.
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While at the store a Viewsonic showed up and was asking me what I though about the unit, he assured me that Dec 16th would be a turning point for the device and joked that they rushed the unit to the market with the firmware being horrible. In fact he said it was a -2 on a scale 1-100, Lol, I agreed and told him the update was better but still not worth the 379.00, he then told me to root it or wait till Dec 16th that the update will add flash and several other features but will make the unit run optimizing both cores and currently it was only running on 1.
I am getting closer to thinking about buying it, I overall like the unit and I am not disappointed with the display it is decent.
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It's funny how that's the same day the Nexus S with Gingerbread will be available from Best Buy lol
I doubt this update will be 2.3 though
I hope this is true. I love this tablet, and if viewsonic keeps pace with what Google is developing it could prove to be a good investment.
This is definitely good news. Hopefully whatever software upgrade this thing gets, the screen sensitivity issue is addressed. While flash is great, it means nothing if I can barely type the web address to get to the flash-based site.
Looking forward to December 16- at least it'll be in my 30 day window for a return.
but even with an update from viewsonic the custom roms mean nothing right? ... ok say they release a update that fixes the screen touching issue and optimizes it for both cores unless your running the stock software viewsonic released it with your not going to see any of those benefits right?
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but even with an update from viewsonic the custom roms mean nothing right? ... ok say they release a update that fixes the screen touching issue and optimizes it for both cores unless your running the stock software viewsonic released it with your not going to see any of those benefits right?
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What the hell are you talking about? The point of my post was pointing out that they should worry less about flash and more about making the touchscreen work.
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but even with an update from viewsonic the custom roms mean nothing right? ... ok say they release a update that fixes the screen touching issue and optimizes it for both cores unless your running the stock software viewsonic released it with your not going to see any of those benefits right?
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You can return the device to stock if you wish.
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What the hell are you talking about? The point of my post was pointing out that they should worry less about flash and more about making the touchscreen work.
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actually i wasn't posting in reference to what you said i was asking a genral question im kinda new at this i was wonder if the update was saved in a different partition of the device so that the fixes would work on custom rom i wasnt trying to counteract anyones post!! sorry if you misunderstood stood
what it will mean is that the guys who build the rom will port over the changes to the custom rom So if something addresses speed or touchscreen issues then it will make the custom roms even better
gotcha thank you so much for your replie i was seriously unclear thats all every one is a noob at some point
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actually i wasn't posting in reference to what you said i was asking a genral question im kinda new at this i was wonder if the update was saved in a different partition of the device so that the fixes would work on custom rom i wasnt trying to counteract anyones post!! sorry if you misunderstood stood
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Sorry for the wording of my post- I really didn't know what you were talking about which is why I explained the point of my post since you referenced the touchscreen issue I brought up.
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but even with an update from viewsonic the custom roms mean nothing right? ... ok say they release a update that fixes the screen touching issue and optimizes it for both cores unless your running the stock software viewsonic released it with your not going to see any of those benefits right?
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Not on Day One, that's correct. Day Two will be another story.
Don't worry, I'm all prepped - TnT Lite 3.0.0 one day after the firmware is released. The only issue is don't believe what a SEARS / Staples rep tells you, as they don't know any more than we do. While I'm sure Flash will be in there, we don't know what else will be added.
I hope it's blazing fast with all the major bugs fixed, but we just don't know yet.
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gotcha thank you so much for your replie i was seriously unclear thats all every one is a noob at some point
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Please use some sort of punctuation.
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While at the store a Viewsonic showed up and was asking me what I though about the unit, he assured me that Dec 16th would be a turning point for the device ....
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I assume you mean 'Viewsonic Rep'. What store was this, and did he/she give a reason for being there and soliciting feedback?
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I assume you mean 'Viewsonic Rep'. What store was this, and did he/she give a reason for being there and soliciting feedback?
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He was a viewsonic rep had the viewsonic shirt on everything at the american furniture store here in fenton missouri
He was there setting up the current update on all these units so that he could train staff they according to him had not really sold well through out all the stores
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He was a viewsonic rep had the viewsonic shirt on everything at the american furniture store here in fenton missouri
He was there setting up the current update on all these units so that he could train staff they according to him had not really sold well through out all the stores
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Not questioning your info, but am the rep. Why was he at a furniture store if concerned about G sales? Should he not be at Sears, Office Depot or Staples? Maybe I read your note wrong.
I would not expect a furniture store to be a critical channel partner that VS would spend money sending a rep to train staff. If they did, that could explain why the G was launched as it was
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Not questioning your info, but am the rep. Why was he at a furniture store if concerned about G sales? Should he not be at Sears, Office Depot or Staples? Maybe I read your note wrong.
I would not expect a furniture store to be a critical channel partner that VS would spend money sending a rep to train staff. If they did, that could explain why the G was launched as it was
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XDA is no longer worth my time.
I had assumed you meant a SEARS or Staples rep, my bad then.
If this person was a VS rep, then I retract what I had written earlier - they might know more than we do. And that's a good thing.
I wish I had been there, as I would have totally picked this guy's brain. :O
No they sell electronics 2 not just furniture. I picked his brains pretty good but I still couldn't get a whole lot of info from him except he knows that everyone's not impressed with it so far
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I had assumed you meant a SEARS or Staples rep, my bad then.
If this person was a VS rep, then I retract what I had written earlier - they might know more than we do. And that's a good thing.
I wish I had been there, as I would have totally picked this guy's brain. :O
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I doubt a Viewsonic field tech knows more than you do roebeet
Tomorrow is the 19th.
Should we be expecting the big update...
Any idea's on what it will include in addition to flash ?
I have a feeling it's going to come and go. An their will be no updates.
Most likely they are going to wait a few days and then release a state-
ment that they are working on a major update and as soon as it's done
they will push it out.
I would say, second or third week of Jan. of 2011 for the next patch
from Viewsonic.
Looks like a wait and see ...
Today is the day!
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Today is the day!
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I'm waiting ...................
Viewsonic hasn't updated their Twitter in two days, and today is a Sunday. I will be very (happily) shocked if we see something today.
I have my device running stock right now (and FC'ing I might add) as I wait....and wait...and wait....
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Viewsonic hasn't updated their Twitter in two days, and today is a Sunday. I will be very (happily) shocked if we see something today.
I have my device running stock right now (and FC'ing I might add) as I wait....and wait...and wait....
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Poor Roebeet. I kinda feel like we should just buy you another tablet just to get these updates. Because running stock just sucks.
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Poor Roebeet. I kinda feel like we should just buy you another tablet just to get these updates. Because running stock just sucks.
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This awesome community already did. I just need SEARS to be kind enough to offer up an outlet device that I don't have to fly to, to pick up.
I keep hoping that someone offers a scratched up floor model on eBay, for a deep discount. That would be the perfect dev device for me.
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This awesome community already did. I just need SEARS to be kind enough to offer up an outlet device that I don't have to fly to, to pick up.
I keep hoping that someone offers a scratched up floor model on eBay, for a deep discount. That would be the perfect dev device for me.
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Where in PA are you? I can drive to Freehold and get that one and drive it to you if you are close to me.
I just purchased the one from Novi, MI, purchased one a week ago, and they sent it back, so I couldnt purchase it. So this time I called them right after I ordered it and made sure I get the product, and I'll tell them if its actually broken or not...
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Where in PA are you? I can drive to Freehold and get that one and drive it to you if you are close to me.
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There's a Freehold one?? I'm near Trenton. (checks site)
EDIT: Nothing. I've been scanning it on and off all morning. I actually saw a Freehold one about 2 weeks back, but I wasn't looking for an extra one at the time. Too bad, because Freehold is an hour away so definitely do-able.
If there is ANY truth to the Gtablet being pulled by Viewsonic, the CS line will be shut off anytime, within days and they will not bother with the FW release. All of this stuff costs money.
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Viewsonic hasn't updated their Twitter in two days, and today is a Sunday. I will be very (happily) shocked if we see something today.
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I really don't expect them to release an update on a Sunday. So, we will wait and see what happens.
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I have my device running stock right now (and FC'ing I might add) as I wait....and wait...and wait....
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I have never had wireless or FC problems. I guess that is why I was never motivated to install a custom ROM. I just installed all the mods on the original UI.
On a related note. Since this update (supposedly) contains Flash for the g-tablet, should I remove the Flash hack first?
been checking all day.....no update...what a bummer
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been checking all day.....no update...what a bummer
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Not only is there an update, but there's a TnT Lite 3.0.0 cooking right now!
roebeet,
did you see the current post for updated GAPPS for Tegra.
Was wondering if you were considering them in your update.
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roebeet,
did you see the current post for updated GAPPS for Tegra.
Was wondering if you were considering them in your update.
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We already have those files (I did look at it) - I can tell by the HTC stuff and other files in there that it's the same Gapps we've been using for the last month.
Just wondering...what time did it hit? The last time i checked was 8:00 pm last night and was no joy.
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There's a Freehold one?? I'm near Trenton. (checks site)
EDIT: Nothing. I've been scanning it on and off all morning. I actually saw a Freehold one about 2 weeks back, but I wasn't looking for an extra one at the time. Too bad, because Freehold is an hour away so definitely do-able.
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That first Freehold one is the one I am on now, lol! There was a second one a couple of days ago, gone now.
This is a great little tablet, Viewsonic has to know they screwed up the software. The hardware doesn't seem to be the problem in my book.
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This is a great little tablet, Viewsonic has to know they screwed up the software. The hardware doesn't seem to be the problem in my book.
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It's ALWAYS been the stock fw that wasn't any good. When I first got mine, I had this crazy idea of staying stock, but the original fw would always Force Close in the news page, and then the update resulted in the weather app Force Closing on me, so I moved onto custom fw and settled on TnT lite.
I might even go back to trying stock fw if TnT ever get their act together...
Now, I understand from the 3316(IIRC) thread that flash is still not included, but their website is still claiming that flash support would be released yesterday. (Odd day, Sunday, to release a fw update...)
It looks like March 3rd/4th is the next rumored drop date for the TB. BGR is reporting an insider at VZW was at an event held last night with TB launch details etc.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/02/24/htc-thunderbolt-may-launch-on-march-3rd-or-4th-4g-lte/
-Lil'
I saw that in the Android Central forums, it's quite possible. If the date holds I can hold on another week. Of course it'd be nice for Verizon to say something.
I actually beleive this may really be the date, Im kind of relieved..
My local Verizon corp. store took down all their TB signs. They are only flying the iP4 signs now. There for a while the walls were plastered with TB ads and signs.
Which "MARCH MADNESS" are we going to watch the NCAA BASKETBALL or the VERIZON /HTC Thunderbolt madness ???????
It might be even later if they can't get the FW more stable. It looks like they are going to just release the device and then push a couple OTA after release.
I've had the Incredible since May of 2010(one of the lucky ones) and am amazed at the recent rom development for this phone. I am also eligible for an upgrade as I am the primary line account.
That being said, I am excited for the Thunderbolt; but I can wait for the release. Chances are Verizon may lower the price after 30 days or so, depending on how well its received.
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Yeah , having my Inc and a good rom makes the wait easier. Still want the Tbolt soon.
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It might be even later if they can't get the FW more stable.
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I must have missed that info. Has anyone with credibility actually stated that, or is that just another rumor being thrown around? I would assume if they already shipped out plenty of units, the FW would be plenty stable.
Would you please post a link to the source of that concern.
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I must have missed that info. Has anyone with credibility actually stated that, or is that just another rumor being thrown around? I would assume if they already shipped out plenty of units, the FW would be plenty stable.
Would you please post a link to the source of that concern.
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I work for Qualcomm, and the device went gold since January. The Network is being fine tuned to handle the LTE devices, and iPhone traffic, but the firmware is not the reason. There were numerous tentative release dates, but Verizon publically stated 1Q. Iphone 4 was the first priority, but that's my opinion.
http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-says-bootloader-unlock-tool-coming-gps-hard-yall
so, I know I personally am absolutely 100% enraged to read about this, since we still haven't heard anything about an official ota for NS4G.
Google is ****ing up big time, and they may lose a LARGE chunk of nexus users over this. I may be one of them, too, if they can't fix this problem asap!!
Ya, it is a bit disturbing.
Well, the work week just started back up for them, so maybe we will hear something in the next couple days?
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http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-says-bootloader-unlock-tool-coming-gps-hard-yall
so, I know I personally am absolutely 100% enraged to read about this, since we still haven't heard anything about an official ota for NS4G.
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Sprint says we'll be "among the first" to updates, not "the first".
hp420 said:
Google is ****ing up big time, and they may lose a LARGE chunk of nexus users over this. I may be one of them, too, if they can't fix this problem asap!!
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I'd be amazed if this is Google's doing.
Sprint's website says "It runs Android™ 2.3 (Gingerbread) the latest version of Android for smartphones." They're the ones that are clueopenic, not Google.
Don't get me wrong: I'm plenty annoyed at not getting OTA ICS. It's just that I don't actually expect Sprint to live up to their promises, since this is not something they've ever tended to do in the past. Sprint users go through this with every software update for every platform on every phone.
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Sprint says we'll be "among the first" to updates, not "the first".
I'd be amazed if this is Google's doing.
Sprint's website says "It runs Android™ 2.3 (Gingerbread) the latest version of Android for smartphones." They're the ones that are clueopenic, not Google.
Don't get me wrong: I'm plenty annoyed at not getting OTA ICS. It's just that I don't actually expect Sprint to live up to their promises, since this is not something they've ever tended to do in the past. Sprint users go through this with every software update for every platform on every phone.
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The update does come directly from Google. Sprint works with Samsung to create proprietary hardware drivers that contain everything you need to access Sprint's cell phone network. These drivers are then made available in binary only form to Google. Google then adds these drivers to their official build. The final product is then delivered directly from Google to your Nexus S 4G phone.
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this quote came from sprint community forums. http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/380145#380145
Sprint does NOT provide our update...google does. Google is falling behind, and they need to be held accountable for their screw-ups. Just because they didn't say "NS4G will be the first" does not make it acceptable for 3rd parties to get an update before they can even get off their lazy asses just to push a button for their OFFICIAL FIRST-PARTY USERS. Everything we need is on their server for download, and if devs here can get off their asses top compile this rom, google sure as hell can do the same!!!
No. Google is waiting on Sprint, not the other way around.
In addition to providing CDMA drivers, Sprint has to approve the final package that is pushed, and they haven't yet done that.
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No. Google is waiting on Sprint, not the other way around.
In addition to providing CDMA drivers, Sprint has to approve the final package that is pushed, and they haven't yet done that.
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Source or GTFO. And we've already got the drivers, I'm using ICS on my NS4G right now. 4g and everything.
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No. Google is waiting on Sprint, not the other way around.
In addition to providing CDMA drivers, Sprint has to approve the final package that is pushed, and they haven't yet done that.
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lol...is that why every single file needed to build a FULL ics rom is already on the server??
I'm not saying you're wrong, but in my opinion, it does not look like it's sprint's fault. It looks like Google is either lazy about releasing it, or they are too dumb to build a rom that's working properly so it's stuck in pre-release testing. However, this is just my opinion....but as far as actually building/releasing the OTA, that is 100% on google's end. whether or not the authorization is coming/has to come from sprint is another story entirely....the point is, if that is the case, google isn't doing their jobs and telling them to screw themselves so they don't look like the bad guy in this!! It's not sprint who will have the damaged reputation after this is all said & done.
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Source or GTFO. And we've already got the drivers, I'm using ICS on my NS4G right now. 4g and everything.
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<shrug> it's the way it's always worked.
This worked in our favor earlier when Sprint okayed deployment of Google Wallet on our devices and GSM users were foaming at the mouth to get it. In those cases, too, it wasn't Google (which has excellent reasons for getting Wallet into as many hands as possible) but the carriers which held up release.
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lol...is that why every single file needed to build a FULL ics rom is already on the server??
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No.
What is the connection between having all the files on the server and Sprint's approval of a final release version?
In your earlier quote lifted from another site, the poster was saying the updates are pushed from Google's servers, not Sprints. That's correct. However, they can't just start pushing updates without carrier approval. This is why, for example, T-Mobile got ICS before ATT.
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<shrug> it's the way it's always worked.
This worked in our favor earlier when Sprint okayed deployment of Google Wallet on our devices and GSM users were foaming at the mouth to get it. In those cases, too, it wasn't Google (which has excellent reasons for getting Wallet into as many hands as possible) but the carriers which held up release.
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No.
What is the connection between having all the files on the server and Sprint's approval of a final release version?
In your earlier quote lifted from another site, the poster was saying the updates are pushed from Google's servers, not Sprints. That's correct. However, they can't just start pushing updates without carrier approval. This is why, for example, T-Mobile got ICS before ATT.
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that was a result of carriers' investment in other companies that developed very similar software to google wallet....exactly the same as when the GN was delayed for verizon because google wanted wallet on their official device and verizon had a coronary about it because they had already backed another company's software that does exactly the same thing.
as for carrier approval, google can only wait so long before they just snap and push the update anyway. carriers can not make the rest of the world wait for an update just because they don't want it released to their devices yet. Google needs to just ***** slap sprint, tell them to shut the hell up, and push the update before this damages their reputation any more than it already has. Like I said, it won't be sprint whose rep is damaged from all of this, just like no one looks towards verizon for the GN delay...the world will blame google, and they aren't even standing up for themselves.
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lol...is that why every single file needed to build a FULL ics rom is already on the server??
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Sure, they could build ICS for the NS4G but the 4G radio wouldn't work. Drivers aren't part of AOSP.
Also, didn't Google pulled the ICS update for the (tmobile) Nexus S? If that's still true, they're clearly working out the issues with ICS before releasing it to the NS4G, etc.
It is most likely *not* Googles doing. I don't know where half of you get these crack pot ideas from that Google or any other OEM is in control over how and when they push an update.
- OEM builds ROM
- OEM submits ROM to carriers (i.e. Sprint branded phone would require Sprint to approve the update).
Carriers can be total dicks about updates and providing OTA. I've seen it all first hand from when I had a Motorola Milestone (Motorola telling us the 2.1 has been built and has gone through testing but they are waiting for carriers to approve them on their networks) we had to waiting months for the updates due to some carriers.
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Sure, they could build ICS for the NS4G but the 4G radio wouldn't work. Drivers aren't part of AOSP.
Also, didn't Google pulled the ICS update for the (tmobile) Nexus S? If that's still true, they're clearly working out the issues with ICS before releasing it to the NS4G, etc.
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Driver binaries are on Google's servers for nexus devices. 100% built from source and 4g works just fine.....
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we are waiting for sprint to approve the new radio that will come with the ota. That is what causes the holdup.
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maybe Google is still fixing what does not go to ics now and then....maybe xD we can see ics on all nexus ^^
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that was a result of carriers' investment in other companies that developed very similar software to google wallet...
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Precisely. I'm glad you finally see my point that Google can't just push out an update because they want to, but are hampered by needing carrier approval.
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carriers can not make the rest of the world wait for an update just because they don't want it released to their devices yet.
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When did this start being true?
It's absolutely true that carriers CAN prevent official release of an update for any reason, or for no reason. They've done it many times before and they'll do it again. Sprint has a long track record of doing exactly this.
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Google needs to just ***** slap sprint, tell them to shut the hell up, and push the update
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You have an awfully lot to learn about how contracts work.
If I run a massive business and another massive business violates my contract with them (for example, pushes an unapproved update to what I think of as "my" devices irrespective of the beliefs or desires of my subscribers), many lawyers are going to be fed and I will expect a massive transfer of assets from that other company to mine.
mstevens is dead on. Sprint will not allow the push of an ota until they can be sure this update won't toast peoples phones, and for the people in the world that have a nxs4g and don't do modding, if the update is broken, they can't just fix what Google's update did. My brother has the GSM version, and received the update, and honestly were not missing anything. The user made roms are already becoming superior builds anyway. We will eventually get the update, I for one am glad sprint said no at the moment though, I would hate to waste my time on a broken ota lol
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lol...too many people to quote you all, so I'm gonna do my best to answer everyone
Ok, I understand how contracts work. My point is this: yes, google has a contract with sprint (or any other carrier, for that matter) to provide radios, wimax drivers, what-have-you, and I understand that if sprint won't sign, there's not much the manufacturer can do...I get that. But my biggest concern with all of this is that google is not flexing their muscles. They have made a guarantee to their customers (not explicit, but still implied) that they would provide ALL NEXUS UPDATES in a timely manner. Sprint is now holding google back from seeing this implied promise carried through, and the fact that other manufacturers are already pushing full ota updates now makes google look bad (grounds for a lawsuit).
I understand that if google were to break that contract by circumventing sprint by releasing the update anyway, they could be sued...I get that. However, google could also counter-sue for making customers wait an unreasonable amount of time for an update that is, by all rights, a "god-given right" to all nexus users prior to anyone else getting it.
Now let's talk about how many people use an NS4G to develop software that they get paid top develop. By sprint not releasing an official update, they are now inhibiting developers from doing business, and therefore they are taking money out of people's pockets. Yes, I know this last example is far-fetched a little bit, but honestly, it's really not all that far off. Yeah, people can just compile aosp themselves, and if they are truly developers, they should know how to do that....but let's say they are working on one particular app that is exclusive for sprint users, and they want to make sure it will run properly on sprint's network via an ICS handset....oh, wait...they can't because sprint are a bunch of lazy pieces of **** who won't sign. This is grounds for class-action, IMHO.
I may not be a lawyer, but it's blatantly obvious to me that if sprint holds out long enough, they are absolutely 100% vulnerable to class-action suits...and maybe even a suit from google, as well. Let's face it, no one but sprint & google execs really know the terms of the contract, but for all we know, it IS in the contract to provide timely updates. If this is the case, I hope someone gets sued like a SOB for this delay, because it's unacceptable!!!!!
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Google is ****ing up big time, and they may lose a LARGE chunk of nexus users over this. I may be one of them, too, if they can't fix this problem asap!!
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I suggest that this LARGE chunk of nexus users may be better served by one of the many other smartphone mfrs who provided a pure ICS update (i.e. no BS extra UI layer and no bloat) over the holiday. Which one will you choose? Oh, wait.
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I hope someone gets sued like a SOB for this delay, because it's unacceptable!!!!!
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Really. You want a lawsuit, because a bunch of software developers wouldn't work at your whim over the nation's biggest holiday?
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I suggest that this LARGE chunk of nexus users may be better served by one of the many other smartphone mfrs who provided a pure ICS update (i.e. no BS extra UI layer and no bloat) over the holiday. Which one will you choose? Oh, wait.
Really. You want a lawsuit, because a bunch of software developers wouldn't work at your whim over the nation's biggest holiday?
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actually, since the drivers, kernel, etc. was all pushed to google's update servers WELL over a week before christmas, they wouldn't have been working during the holiday at all to get it pushed to NS4g...they just had to click a few buttons....something I've done a few hundred thousand times in the last 5 minutes.
BTW, no need to be a smartass about it. if I want to switch from nexus to get a pure android ui, I can always just root and modify the ota to have a stock theme. So now what do you have to say about that, smartass??? Oh wait...
tool.
hp420 said:
actually, since the drivers, kernel, etc. was all pushed to google's update servers WELL over a week before christmas, they wouldn't have been working during the holiday at all to get it pushed to NS4g...they just had to click a few buttons....something I've done a few hundred thousand times in the last 5 minutes.
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You're making multiple assumptions. You assume that by the existence of particular source files on a particular server, you know what Google's stance as to the public release candidacy of a compiled package is. Please explain why you believe this. There are only two ways we could know such a thing:
1) Google publicly declares it (i.e. this compiled package IS ready for public use... or vice versa)
2) Google actually pushes the compiled package (in the absence of such an action, the logical assumption to make is that they are not ready to do such a thing yet, for their own reasons... i.e. there is still something else they need to do. NOT that they are "too lazy/stupid to push a few buttons")
hp420 said:
BTW, no need to be a smartass about it. if I want to switch from nexus to get a pure android ui, I can always just root and modify the ota to have a stock theme. So now what do you have to say about that, smartass??? Oh wait...
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You're right, the sarcasm is 100% optional. It's an option that I quite enjoy though. I won't, however, stoop to personal attacks.
How about this. Sarcasm removed for you, I will ask the question that was clearly evident in my last post. If you decide to "leave Google" because of your discontent, which handset vendor will you turn to? Who do you believe is a better option? Who will give you a pure Android update in a shorter timespan? I am genuinely (no sarcasm) interested!
I have located a cg2900 driver that may have already been seen and may or may not be useful. My cursory knowledge of kernel source tells me it might provide insight or even provide a complete swap of the current driver (with its bluetooth issues).
If it has been looked at before and/or is useless...I apologize. Just tossing it out there on an off chance.
http://code.google.com/p/ast-linux-...e6394ac1716735f510df24873fbbf2#staging/cg2900
*Bump*
Does anyone have the knowledge to know if this will solve our bluetooth issues?
Nope won't really be much help. There is a reason the driver is in "staging". Its never been finalized and accepted, and on top of that, Samsung used a version that was submitted to the kernel mailing list, and vehemently rejected before this version in staging. They are no where near alike so making comparisons between the two is a nightmare. I've even tried switching in the driver from the snowball, the ref board that sti made with the cg2900. It uses the bluez stack so i had high hopes. To no avail. Have never been able to get farther than where it is without completely hosing GPS.
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How can we be more like you, LinuxBozo?
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How can we be more like you, LinuxBozo?
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Go to school, study hard, work hard, hold high moral standards, and be open/willing to appreciate/acknowledge others ideas. You know, be human.
I respect you, LinuxBozo.
Anyway, mods please close, we don't want to turn this thread into hellfire.
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Nope won't really be much help. There is a reason the driver is in "staging". Its never been finalized and accepted, and on top of that, Samsung used a version that was submitted to the kernel mailing list, and vehemently rejected before this version in staging. They are no where near alike so making comparisons between the two is a nightmare. I've even tried switching in the driver from the snowball, the ref board that sti made with the cg2900. It uses the bluez stack so i had high hopes. To no avail. Have never been able to get farther than where it is without completely hosing GPS.
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Good to see you, havent seen a post of yours in months lol. Too bad, they had to make the infuse as cheap as possible, did not think about the problems thy would have later upgrading to gb and for open source. Then again, idk if they even cared about thag in the first place.
Also, one look at the TODO should give you an idea of how much of a pain it is to work with this driver and chipset:
http://code.google.com/p/ast-linux-...sh&r=95aad7083ae6394ac1716735f510df24873fbbf2
Just sayin..