Loving my G-tab with VegaN-beta3. Question for all the more experienced users/devs -- have any of you noticed a significant battery drain while in sleep mode?
From a fully charged g-tab, I put it into airplane mode so no radios are on, and then power the unit into suspend mode. After ONE hour I check the battery by turning the unit on and the meter says 95% now.
My question is this "normal" behavior. This seems kind of high drain for a g-tab in sleep mode. I suppose I can try resetting the battery statistics by booting into CWM recovery.
I don't know this is related at all, but I just installed VegaN B3 last night and with my charger plugged in it didn't charge beyond 95%.
reynwrap582 said:
I don't know this is related at all, but I just installed VegaN B3 last night and with my charger plugged in it didn't charge beyond 95%.
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You might want to reset your battery meter:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9815262&highlight=battery+meter#post9815262
terrypchan said:
Loving my G-tab with VegaN-beta3. Question for all the more experienced users/devs -- have any of you noticed a significant battery drain while in sleep mode?
From a fully charged g-tab, I put it into airplane mode so no radios are on, and then power the unit into suspend mode. After ONE hour I check the battery by turning the unit on and the meter says 95% now.
My question is this "normal" behavior. This seems kind of high drain for a g-tab in sleep mode. I suppose I can try resetting the battery statistics by booting into CWM recovery.
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That seems high to me too. I would say about 1% per hour actual battery usage during sleep mode (with wifi off) seems to be the norm on my G Tablet. Not even sure why it's that high for me, honestly, and when I have some time I've been meaning to experiment with disabling background services before putting it to sleep and seeing if that changes the sleeping battery usage significantly.
Definitely, I'd start out with clearing battery stats and seeing if that helps.
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Is this normal. I did try and do a search in my defence.
Yes. It is like that by design. It stops charging at around 95-98%. Its to prevent you from overcharging the battery.
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This is a known issue. You can try and reset battery stats in cwm when your battery is charged and/or emptied. It works for some and not for others. I haven't noticed my battery lasting any less when my battery doesn't "charge" past 97%
There have been some discussion on this. I get about 97% myself. From what I've read you may get full charge if you let it drain all the way. I don't do that myself. Very happy with battery life as is.
I used to get 100% before I switched to the Vegan rom.
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Is this normal. I did try and do a search in my defence.
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Either let it drain until it shuts off a few times and then charge it all the way up or if that doesn't work, use CWM to delete the battery stats when it's at 95% (full, with a GREEN light - not charging, with a red light) and then let it drain until it shuts off on it's own.
I did this a long time ago (delete the stats) and it's been perfect since. Charges to 100% and does indeed show battery at almost empty before it shuts off.
Good Luck.
Still no go here but it can get tom 96%... lol
I am sitting a 98% with VEGAn.
I am now having an issue where u can use the device, then I turn it off, and
turn it on the next morning and see about 5 to 10% of my battery was drained.
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Confirmed fix for me on Vegan 5.1. Letting battery drain down to zero and shutoff the tablet... reached 100% on next charge. Now the indicator charges to 100% every time.
tried this and still no luck . still get to 95-6% bugger
Vegan here..this is how I fixed it:
1) Drain it till it shuts off, try restarting it a few time to make sure its dead.
2) Once dead, plug it in, boot into clockworkx, and reset battery status (do this quickly)
3) restart, and leave plugged in idling till fully charged
4) use and enjoy a accurate battery level!!
-Red
Mrhorology said:
I am now having an issue where u can use the device, then I turn it off, and
turn it on the next morning and see about 5 to 10% of my battery was drained.
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You have to remember that in order to install some apps out there, you have to give them permission to use the internet and to interact with your device autonomously. I have found a few apps that were pulling my tablet out of sleep mode and turning on the wireless to download ads or other updates, and that (along with the length of time to shut back down) was affecting my battery life.
I would say to go back and review what you've installed, and to also check your screen timeout settings. Just doing that saved me quite a bit of overnight battery loss.
BigJohn
This works in VegaN - YMMV...
Settings -> Wireless settings -> then hit the menu button, and choose "Advanced", then select "WiFi Sleep policy" (It was set to NEVER!)
Spare parts showed (via 'Spare Parts' app) that the WiFi was on 100% of the time - even while sleeping..
I'll give this a try tonight when I go to sleep.
I like to leave it at "never" so that there is no delay upon wake up to connect to wifi. With the table in use (vs. sleeping) the battery life is so long; almost 10 hours, I don't worry about a little battery drain while sleeping. Just connect it to the charger once a day or less.
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I like to leave it at "never" so that there is no delay upon wake up to connect to wifi. With the table in use (vs. sleeping) the battery life is so long; almost 10 hours, I don't worry about a little battery drain while sleeping. Just connect it to the charger once a day or less.
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You get a 'little' battery drain while sleeping? If I leave my gtab unplugged overnight, it loses about 4% per hour.. or about 30% overnight. That's why I'm trying different things. 30% overnight isn't a little to me -- it's way too much.
A tablet like this should all but go into a state of suspended animation while sleeping...
30%, really? That sounds as if there's something else going on rather than just wifi draining.
Edit- Some thoughts. There are some apps that require permission to update or snag some ads from the net and operate on their own.
Go take a look at what you have installed and look at your screen timeout settings.
If you have CWM and can get to recovery, wipe battery settings and then reboot/charge. Some people drain completely then charge to get to 100%. Some threads seem to show this is a Vegan issue. (Mine gets to 97 tops but as long as battery life is not affected, I'm good)
HTH
DudeInMyrtleBeach said:
You get a 'little' battery drain while sleeping? If I leave my gtab unplugged overnight, it loses about 4% per hour.. or about 30% overnight. That's why I'm trying different things. 30% overnight isn't a little to me -- it's way too much.
A tablet like this should all but go into a state of suspended animation while sleeping...
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Just curios, why would you leave it on all night when it will never be used? it only takes a minute to boot in the morning when you turn it on.
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Just curios, why would you leave it on all night when it will never be used? it only takes a minute to boot in the morning when you turn it on.
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I leave it in sleep mode because its my alarm clock. I also now leave it plugged in.
I've tried draining the battery then resetting stats in clockwork. If tried about every variation of doing that I can think of short of waiving a dead chicken over it.
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I've left mine on and unplugged(it went to sleep) for 3 or 4 days and come back with battery still. 30% overnight seems odd.
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30%, really? That sounds as if there's something else going on rather than just wifi draining.
Edit- Some thoughts. There are some apps that require permission to update or snag some ads from the net and operate on their own.
Go take a look at what you have installed and look at your screen timeout settings.
If you have CWM and can get to recovery, wipe battery settings and then reboot/charge. Some people drain completely then charge to get to 100%. Some threads seem to show this is a Vegan issue. (Mine gets to 97 tops but as long as battery life is not affected, I'm good)
HTH
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I think you might be right, because I used Cyanogen Mod for a month and a half and had no issue like this. Now I am using TNT Lite 4.2.4 and I am still having no battery life issue.
Also I have never been not able to charge my Tab to 100%. So I may suggest that you guys try switching to cyanogen mod or tnt lite.
Is anybody seeing heavy battery loss during standby mode?
On average my TF is losing between 3.5 and 5% battery in standby mode. I have done a few tests with and with out airplane mode and it does not change.
I currently have an RMA setup with ASUS but I dont want to have to send it back and wait 14 days, so I wanted to reach out here first.
Thanks in advance,
Brandon
Every device I've ever owned has lost power during standby. That's the tradeoff. Otherwise, you could, you know...turn it off?
Windows has that nice "hibernate" hybrid.
It's totally not worth an RMA...don't let your OCD win.
There are a few processes that run in the background like Android OS, WiFi, keyboard etc. It needs to be reactive to certain signals so it can't be off completely. The iPad has amazing stand-by times but I don't know why. I just saw it when I borrowed one for a day from a friend.
I would NOT RMA my device unless it's a significant drop in battery life (>10%/h); it's just the way it is mate!
But what I realized is after I rooted, installed SetCPU and set the governor to ondemand the battery life has increased significantly. It idles at 216MHz now.
mine doesn't have a great standby time either, pretty bad actually when you compare it to my xoom. however its an issue that should be fixed with a software update and it shouldn't require an rma.
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Check if you have your Wifi on sleep also?? Depending on number of applications that you use for updating it might be using your battery.
There are a number of other threads already discussing the issue of battery life in standby, but here's my conclusion: the TF has an issue with wifi that if you set it to stay on while the TF's screen is off (a setting in the wifi section of system settings), it burns quite a bit of battery while on standby. If you set it to turn off when the screen is off, then it doesn't.
I know this is a bug with the TF because the Xoom does not exhibit this behavior. It burns less than .5%/hour when on standby with wifi set to stay on when the screen is off. The TF gets this same performance (<.5%/hour burn) on standby only if wifi is set to turn off. Otherwise, I'm getting the same as you: around 3.5%/hour burn rate.
I'm assuming that the TF's wifi just doesn't enter whatever low-power state it's supposed to enter while on standby. My second assumption is that this is something that will get fixed in an update.
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I just turn on airplane mode when I know it is going to sit, and it burns about 1% an hour.
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There are a number of other threads already discussing the issue of battery life in standby, but here's my conclusion: the TF has an issue with wifi that if you set it to stay on while the TF's screen is off (a setting in the wifi section of system settings), it burns quite a bit of battery while on standby. If you set it to turn off when the screen is off, then it doesn't.
I know this is a bug with the TF because the Xoom does not exhibit this behavior. It burns less than .5%/hour when on standby with wifi set to stay on when the screen is off. The TF gets this same performance (<.5%/hour burn) on standby only if wifi is set to turn off. Otherwise, I'm getting the same as you: around 3.5%/hour burn rate.
I'm assuming that the TF's wifi just doesn't enter whatever low-power state it's supposed to enter while on standby. My second assumption is that this is something that will get fixed in an update.
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+1 on this. Looking forward to the updates
wynand32 said:
There are a number of other threads already discussing the issue of battery life in standby, but here's my conclusion: the TF has an issue with wifi that if you set it to stay on while the TF's screen is off (a setting in the wifi section of system settings), it burns quite a bit of battery while on standby. If you set it to turn off when the screen is off, then it doesn't.
I know this is a bug with the TF because the Xoom does not exhibit this behavior. It burns less than .5%/hour when on standby with wifi set to stay on when the screen is off. The TF gets this same performance (<.5%/hour burn) on standby only if wifi is set to turn off. Otherwise, I'm getting the same as you: around 3.5%/hour burn rate.
I'm assuming that the TF's wifi just doesn't enter whatever low-power state it's supposed to enter while on standby. My second assumption is that this is something that will get fixed in an update.
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Is there an adjustment for the Wifi and/or app settings. In general the second or third largest power consumer in these devices is the radios. The radio needs to be powered up whenever a connection needs data. This can be for keep alive messages that verify the existence of a wifi connection to an access point, or from an app such as gmail, calendar, etc. checking for new data. In any case there may be settings that allow one to decrease the frequency of these operations.
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I just turn on airplane mode when I know it is going to sit, and it burns about 1% an hour.
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FYI, I did a few tests with airplane mode on and I was still losing around 3.5%-5% battery life.
I did do a few more tests, and my most recent test I found interesting.
I use my TF as usual and had a few applications running, I then turned off the screen and let it sit for an hour and 4% battery life was used.
Then I powered down my TF fully, then I powered it back up and turned off the screen. (Currently the TF is up and running but no applications have been opened aside from backround apps Syncing).
I put the TF into standby (turned off the screen) at 1:37 am and I had 53% battery life.
I checked on the TF in the morning at 8:51am, and I had 51% battery life.
So in just over 7 hours my TF only used 2% battery life in standby which is a very acceptable range.
Conclusion, what ever apps we are opening and using under normal use are not being fully closed out, and are running in the backround, not the backround services as per the airplane mode test.
I will do a few more tests tommorrow, I hope this helps and I look forward to others feedback!
Brandon
Brandon - Please check out yours with wifi set to turn off when the screen is off. In all of my testing (similar to yours), that made the difference between great standby performance (<.5%/hour) and not-so-great (3.5%/hour or more). Nothing else seemed to matter, including manually turning off just about every app that normally runs in the background and verifying that they stayed off.
Hopefully soon Asus will also fix the battery stats bug so that we can see what apps/system components are actually using power on standby. Or they'll just fix wifi so that it sleeps as it should.
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I have already done the tests with WIFI turned off and also with the TF in Airplane Mode.
So far the only time I have gotten great standby time was when I rebooted my TF and did not open any applications. (WIFI was on FYI)
Brandon
so, the last two night i've gotten great result from stand by mode. The first night i went and killed couple of programs, before putting in AP mode for the night. 12:45 am till 9:00 am from 78% 75%. Last night at 12:00am had 34% this morning at 8:00 it dropdown to 32%.
I took a screenshot of the battery usage after waking up in the morning. Wifi was left on with the sleep policy set to sleep on screen off. It seems to turn back on intermittently but the awake bar seems to happen more often the longer it is in sleep. Is that meant to happen? What does awake signify? That the screen is on?
background data probably running in the background
like weather updates to it to refresh every 4 hours or something
its weird though, towards the right theres like 2 times where the device is awake for long periods of time :S
brandonpaz said:
Is anybody seeing heavy battery loss during standby mode?
On average my TF is losing between 3.5 and 5% battery in standby mode. I have done a few tests with and with out airplane mode and it does not change.
I currently have an RMA setup with ASUS but I dont want to have to send it back and wait 14 days, so I wanted to reach out here first.
Thanks in advance,
Brandon
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Would you try "Task killer" for decreasing battery loss?
My battery seems to be dying alot quicker now I have the dock. Hopefully a new firmware will come out that'll lower the battery consumption of the dock when its in standby.
I just noticed in the past few minutes that my gmail is pushing to my tablet despite the screen being off and my wifi policy set to off when sleeping. I've also found some issues when it would actually cut the wifi off when sleeping, and when it comes back it doesn't want to reconnect to my router.
My other issue is battery life related. Last night I *believe* I turned airplane mode on before going to sleep and when I woke up 9 hours or so later, the battery was at least 10% down, I think more than that but I didn't take note of it at night. Even if wifi was on, it should've been shut as my sleep policy is that way. Looking through other threads people seem to be experiencing 1% or so battery drain in an hour. The other factor is that I have setcpu installed and a screen off profile that maxes at the second lowest frequency. This morning I installed netarchy's kernel and lowered my setcpu profile so it stays at the minimum frequency when the screen is off.
I'm running Prime 1.3 (didn't do the r2) and have manually removed a handful of the Asus apps that I don't use/want, and I have GPS disabled.
What 'concerns' me is that I have a droid incredible for a while now and with it, I get no battery drain overnight with airplane mode on (at least none that registers) and that's a battery with a fraction the capacity of the transformer. Moreover, I have a very few apps on my tablet whereas my phone has quite a few and basically beyond the stock stuff on the tablet the same apps are on my phone. Also, the battery stats window on the transformer doesn't show any info about apps. I've had my phone on since I woke up, on 3g and I'm at 90% with not much use. And I thought that my phone got meh battery life.
ive had some issues with wifi disconnecting and wouldn't stop disconnecting till a reboot. cant find any news on it. ive tried all firmwares now and still have the issue.
I been having the same issue. Last night I reflashed the 8.2.3.13-20110511 build, to see it it will help. Mine is stock not rooted.
I have the dock and use the pad with most of the time, both are loosing battery life even after I do a complete shutdown. To me it seems it has gotten worse after the 8.2.3.13-20110511 build update. The WiFi is loosing connection when the dock goes dead so I have to reboot the pad to get it to reconnect.
I also have contacted Asus tech. On another thought I really wish in Android you could disable startup apps without rooting.
-M
Was hoping for more replies but my naturally long-winded posts probably scared everyone off...
I wiped my device and installed Modaco's ROM. I didn't touch the stock apps and only things I've installed are Titanium & Tasker. I put together a Tasker profile to kick airplane mode on when the system is put to sleep, and turn it off when unlocked (unless airplane mode was enabled when put to sleep). I also installed Setcpu and setup a profile to keep the CPU frequency to the minimum when screen is off.
I charged to 100% and let it sit overnight. When I woke up I was at 98%, when I got home a little while ago it was at 96%. Note that I hadn't used the tablet other than for a brief minute or two to check the battery stats. As of now I'm showing 15hrs 51mins on battery with a 4% drop. I've had it in airplane mode the whole time. Oppositely, I had my droid incredible at 100% and played Drop7 (great game btw) for at least 20 minutes before going to bed last night, and it was still 100% when I woke up (it was in airplane mode overnight). I find it weird that my droid incredible, with a 1/4 of the battery capacity doesn't drop at all overnight even with a game being played, and the transformer drops 2% in that time idling.
Has anyone wiped battery stats via CWM?
When I setup AutoStart, I noticed the power state event for screen on/off is off by default. I tried turning back on, seems to improve battery on sleep.
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Hi XDA,
I'm having some problem with my Huawei Mate P7,
Recently when the phone is in standby, it can drain the whole battery from 100% in a night of standby(while sleeping).
I've reset to factory hoping that would fix this, same problem. I updated to latest Lolipop thinking that would help, same problem...
When the phone is in Smart Power mode and I'm using it while on, the battery hardly drains. It's only in standby it seems to happen. Even not installing any apps except FB it dies.
It seems to be in the stats, 80% power usage is wifi/3g modules.
Any idea what could be going on here? Am I forgetting a setting? Is the battery a problem?
Thanks
Are WiFi settings are those?
ronnie72 said:
Are WiFi settings are those?
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Yip settings the same as the screenshot Except mine is "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep - Only when plugged in"
So I charged it to 100% yesterday and left it switched off, plugged it back in and it had lost 40%, sitting at 60% remaining...with it switched off from 100% battery.
Starting to think the battery is dying Attached pics of usage..brand new software, reset, no apps installed, running on Smart Optimization
same battery drain. Updated to 6.0 and the problem is gone.
4.4 was fine. But all 5.1 had the same battery drain issue
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Yip settings the same as the screenshot Except mine is "Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep - Only when plugged in"
So I charged it to 100% yesterday and left it switched off, plugged it back in and it had lost 40%, sitting at 60% remaining...with it switched off from 100% battery.
Starting to think the battery is dying Attached pics of usage..brand new software, reset, no apps installed, running on Smart Optimization
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Go to Google settings and turn off location reporting.
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Thanks for all the assistance all, I think the battery is just going bad, it takes forever to charge, leave it charging all night sometimes and its still not full tried multiple chargers too
Can't get more than 6 hours out of it it seems tried all suggestions including upgrading to 6.0(made a difference with speed much quicker now though)
Anyone got any other suggestions??
How good is your mobile signal?
If it's trying to use 4G and searching for better signal it could chew the battery. It's much easier on battery running on 3G.