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Hey guys,
I got my g tablet yesterday at sears.
I really interested to get the vegan mod it looks very cool. I'm new on these stuffs.
as you know VS just released a new update and I did update my device.
my questions are:
1-if I flash my g tablet with vegan or TnT 2.2 mods am I able to re flash my g tablet to the stock UI again? for example if VC release new update am I able to go back to the stock mod and update my device with this update?
2- after flashing g tablet with vegan or TnT 2.2 do I need to root the device to be able to access to full system file of it will be already rooted after flash it with any of vegan or TnT 2.2?
Thank you
if you install a new rom:
1. you will not want to go back to stock TapNTap provided by ViewSonic
2. You will not need to root your device, as the custom roms are already rooted
Actually, you can go back to stock Tap N Tap, using nvflash. See this post from Roebeet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861950
However, the updates from Viewsonic will always get torn down by Roebeet, Rothnic and other developers here and will be repackaged as a TNT Lite build within 24 hours of Viewsonic's release, so there's not much of a reason to go back to stock, especially when TNT Lite is basically superior in every way (at least, most of us find it so).
The Ringmaster said:
if you install a new rom:
1. you will not want to go back to stock TapNTap provided by ViewSonic
2. You will not need to root your device, as the custom roms are already rooted
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Thank you for reply. so if I use the custom rom will be able to get VS updates without re flash it to stock?
beepoo83 said:
Thank you for reply. so if I use the custom rom will be able to get VS updates without re flash it to stock?
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No you will not be able to get the VS updates as that is some of the removed sections in the Lite version. The reason was posted. The update manager sends your MAC address to the update servers very frequently in the clear.
However if you do keep the stock ROM you can always re-flash the device if you find the OEM ROM better. I will be shocked if you were to find that as the TNT Lite, and the Vegan are superior in every way to the the STOCK ROM.
beepoo83 said:
Hey guys,
I got my g tablet yesterday at sears.
I really interested to get the vegan mod it looks very cool. I'm new on these stuffs.
as you know VS just released a new update and I did update my device.
my questions are:
1-if I flash my g tablet with vegan or TnT 2.2 mods am I able to re flash my g tablet to the stock UI again? for example if VC release new update am I able to go back to the stock mod and update my device with this update?
2- after flashing g tablet with vegan or TnT 2.2 do I need to root the device to be able to access to full system file of it will be already rooted after flash it with any of vegan or TnT 2.2?
Thank you
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It's fairly easy to go back, if needed. We also post all the latest firmware updates from TnT (even if they don't - still don't know why they don't offer them). See the FAQ in my sig for the vanilla ROM locations, and instructions on how to use them.
I made the decision to pull the over-the-air updater from TnT Lite, with the first release. From a security standpoint, phoning home in the clear with my mac address is a terrible idea. If Apple or MS did this, for example, the tech blogs would eat them alive. We usually grab the firmware updates pretty fast and post them. ie. the latest one is already posted.
Sorry for the newb question, but a search came up empty. Should I choose Vegan over TNT lite, is the install procedure the same? I see the step-by-step install guide for TNT lite, but wonder if Vegan requires different steps.
Thanks in advance!!!
festivus said:
Sorry for the newb question, but a search came up empty. Should I choose Vegan over TNT lite, is the install procedure the same? I see the step-by-step install guide for TNT lite, but wonder if Vegan requires different steps.
Thanks in advance!!!
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If you install clockwork recovery you can easily try all the roms I have been using the vegan b3 release I like it but I use dolphin HD and skyfire browsers I don't like the native browser. Also I have used the tnt roms they are good too but as of lately really like vegan rom also if you back up your rom after you install you can compare stock vs custom. vegan roms download to PC drag to SD card rename update (at least on my vista PC) boot into recovery select apply update.zip and your good to go
What size SD card is required to fash with. I just picked up a GTablet for my wife for Christmas and want it running as flawless as possible before giving it to her.
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Any as long as it can fit the 100MB+ Rom. The micro SD is used incase you screw up an need to reflash to stock. This happened to me, the external memory helped me fix it.
Oh and thank you Roebeet for your hardworking on the roms you and everyone/anyone that helped you make this device incredible!
So the TnT lite rom is 100mb?
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I've been lurking these forums for months for my rooted Droid 1 and have recently been interested in a tab. I placed a order on the GTab (my first Tab) based on the awesome support here at XDA. My question is: Should I let the tab update itself and then flash clockwork/rom on to the device or root immediately? I will obviously do a backup right after she's rooted and before a rom is flashed. One more thing: Doing a wipe will remove all traces of TapNTap right?
You can install clockwork with out rooting. Tnt lite, zpad, and Vegan roms will give you root and gapps. You can install the performance pack on top of the latest Viewsonic update (3389) and will give you root and gapps. The only way to to get rid of TapnTap is to flash another rom. TntLite is based on TapNTap so some traces remain. (browser, settings) But the dashboard is gone.
So i should let it update on it's own before modifying it? I got another one: I've purchased maybe 5 apps on my phone, will i be able to get those on the Gtab for free if i log in under my Gmail account?
If your gonna flash clockword and modify it then don't update. You can always flash the current Viewsonic firmware later if you want. With the exception of a few apps you can download your apps. Sometimes you have to do the market fix a couple times for all the apps to show. Your paid apps are tied to your Gmail so they will be downloadable on your tab
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If your gonna flash clockword and modify it then don't update. You can always flash the current Viewsonic firmware later if you want. With the exception of a few apps you can download your apps. Sometimes you have to do the market fix a couple times for all the apps to show. Your paid apps are tied to your Gmail so they will be downloadable on your tab
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Sweet.. I figured they would be linked to my Gmail but wanted to be sure. Thanks!
Hello all,
Sorry for the silly question but I am trying to find out my stock build level in my G-tab. Have noticed all the warnings about the build level but don't know how to find the stock build.
In my Settings, About Tablet, Tap UI Version only reads my Rom version, TnT Lite v4.2.4.
I like the new look of the TNT Lite 5.0. but need to confirm that I have 3588 before I make any changes.
Thanks in advance.
bevbeng,
Honestly, if you have not reached the point in the learning curve where you can find and understand the "build level" yet, you may want to hold off a while. Somehow you
have gotten to TNT Lite, but.....
I have 5.0.0 on one of my tablets and it is nice, but it was a challenge to install. I wouldn't recommend trying it until you thoroughly understand all aspects of flashing and nvflashing so as to not wind up with a problem you can't solve.
BTW, you are running TNT Lite. That is not stock -- it is a custom ROM. To get back to 3588 you are going to have to find the 3588 stock rom, download and install it. Once you have done that, then you can look at 5.0.0 when you are ready.
Rev
Thanks. However, it still doesn't help me to find the factory build level in my tablet.
Maybe I don't understand, but I thought you were looking for "Build Level" in the context of whether your tablet is ready to flash 5.0.0.
If that's what you mean, you need to have the 3588 update loaded as you noted.
Your tablet is not now compatible because TNT Lite is not "stock" software. It is a custom ROM.
To get to a "stock" machine that meets the prerequisites for 5.0.0 -- you will have to download a copy of the 3588 upgrade. It can be found in these forums with a quick search. Then you will have to do a standard install/flash.
Once the 3588 is installed, it will have removed the TNT Lite you now have -- and the correct rom and recovery files should be there.
Again, I hope this helps.
Rev
P. S. -- I have never heard of "Build Level" as being something you can find in the various screens in the tablet. There is a "Build number" on the "Settings" screen for "About tablet" but I've never seen it say anything except "FRF91" and I'm not even sure what that means!
bevbeng said:
Hello all,
Sorry for the silly question but I am trying to find out my stock build level in my G-tab. Have noticed all the warnings about the build level but don't know how to find the stock build.
In my Settings, About Tablet, Tap UI Version only reads my Rom version, TnT Lite v4.2.4.
I like the new look of the TNT Lite 5.0. but need to confirm that I have 3588 before I make any changes.
Thanks in advance.
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TnT Lite 4.2.4 is a custom rom modified from a ViewSonic Tap-n-Tap stock rom. You will not find the ViewSonic stock information directly by going to the About Tablet section in Settings. You need to follow the thread to know what has been done. Even though TnT Lite 4.2.4 was modified from the 3588/3589 stock rom from ViewSonic, you need to reflash your Gtab to 3588 stock before you reflash it to TnT Lite 5.0.0. ViewSonic made major changes to the boot.img. If you follow these steps to the letter (refer to the link below), TnT Lite 5.0.0 will install successfully. As a caution, many folks had to nvflash do to issues during the install. Be prepared for that situation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11988658&postcount=3732
Butch1326 said:
TnT Lite 4.2.4 is a custom rom modified from a ViewSonic Tap-n-Tap stock rom. You will not find the ViewSonic stock information directly by going to the About Tablet section in Settings. You need to follow the thread to know what has been done. Even though TnT Lite 4.2.4 was modified from the 3588/3589 stock rom from ViewSonic, you need to reflash your Gtab to 3588 stock before you reflash it to TnT Lite 5.0.0. ViewSonic made major changes to the boot.img. If you follow these steps to the letter (refer to the link below), TnT Lite 5.0.0 will install successfully. As a caution, many folks had to nvflash do to issues during the install. Be prepared for that situation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11988658&postcount=3732
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This is the exact answer I was looking for. Many thanks.
I installed TnT 5.0.1 on my gTablet, and it's running like a charm. However, I would like to install Vegan-Tab 5.1.1 (or some other ones using ClockworkMod 0.8) and try a few things out. One of the caveats that Roebeet put in his TnT post is:
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- Also for 5.x.x users, flipping between mods will be more difficult, since 5.x.x changes the bootloader. To go to VEGAn, gADAM or any of the other mods will require an nvflash back to bekits 1105 image first, at least via the testing I've done.
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I have nvflashed the gTablet before when I accidentally semi-bricked it, so that's not the issue. (In fact, I found a rar somewhere with all required files in it---awesome!) My question is whether there is a way for me to make a full backup of my ROM (so TnT 5.0.1 with all apps and settings), so I can revert back to it should I choose to. Or is the only way for me to reinstall TnT 5.0.x fresh and then reinstall all apps (or restore them from Titanium backups)?
(I'm new to the Android world, so I apologize if there is an easy, obvious answer to this question.)
Thanks!
Ron
dutch_in_seattle,
As an early "nearly-bricker", I have been following 5.0.0 and 5.0.1 almost since the
beginning and have been trying to do all I can to help folks with problems. I also
have been trying to provide roebeet with material to help.
If I understand it well -- what roebeet has been saying is that the "3991"/5.0.0 stuff represents kind of a new generation and setup for the G-Tablet. It is the moving from the older generation to the newer that has caused all the problems.
The problems are that some of the underlying files have changed to newer versions and if you don't go to 3588 "completely stock" before going "up" -- you will have trouble jumping the gap!
I'm going to extrapolate from that -- that you should be careful going down too. If you are at 3991/5.0.x and want to go down, I would reload 3588 to make sure you
get a fully stock system with the older generation files -- and then I would install whatever old-generation rom you wish.
This is the best suggestion I can make based on several times up the system (with a couple of regressions nfflashing down for repairs!).
Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
Rev
EDIT: Thinking about it, I don't see anything wrong with my suggestion. But the quote with roebeet's comment to "nvflash back to bekits stock recovery version" probably
does add another layer of protection to the process. He certainly is more expert than me by far!
I've used nvflash before, so it's not so much that I'm worried I can't go back to Vegan-Tab or a different "older-generation" ROM. What I would like to do before going back is do a full system backup of TnT 5.0.1, with all my settings and apps, so I can easily revert to that Android environment if and when I want to, rather than having to reinstall TnT 5.x and then set up my environment again. I would normally restore using ClockworkMod, but you can't use this for TnT 5.x and I don't believe the new recovery mode has a restore option (but I could be wrong there).
Ron
I'm thinking you should be able to do a backup with the new clockwork recovery required for tnt, nvflash and start over with a new rom, then when you want to go back install tnt and the new clockwork from scratch and do a recovery from that point.
I did one flash...to TNT version 4xx, and I loved it...but I'm finding I'm getting lots of Google Framework errors and generally just kind of want to start from scratch, over again.....go back to the latest version of the official viewsonic roms.
Sadly I didn't use clockwork or anything so I think my original files are history
I know there are lots of threads, and I tried to follow one about snagging a rom and moving it to the Root and all it does is re-install TNT I think I am "not getting something".
Can someone walk me through this....