Hello XDA-devs ---
I'm just trying to get some kind of visible feedback about whether the new Devvy Awards banner Ad is showing up for you in the ad-rotation on the site here. There is a wide banner version, and a square version. If you've seen one at least once, could you please reply and just let me know -- it'll help a lot!
HERE'S WHY
It would help to give me an indication on where and how to spend money to increase developer awareness of the upcoming VOTING for the first (AND LAST) Devvy Awards for the Windows Mobile touchscreen Platform. These awards pay tribute to the killed-off OS that started this whole multi-billion dollar touchscreen phone & tablet industry way back when XDA-developers.com first started as a website formed to help make the HTC "XDA" a more usable phone on Windows Mobile.
XDA-developers.com has very generously donated the running of these ads for the Devvy Awards, and "we" ("we" is actually just 2 people! ) are very grateful for all the support they've given in so many ways.
Here's what the ads look like:
ADS RUN HERE IN GEOGRAPHICAL TERRITORIES OF THE WORLD
Europe, Asia, Africa, South America may all see these Devvy Awards ads more likely than those of us in the USA, due to the targeting of many ads for USA audience, and the heavy Christmas shopping season where many products are being sold. So the statistical instances of USA viewers seeing the ads is way less -- and that's where I live. So I am hoping for some tangible feedback.
They cost a lot to produce. And the purpose was simply to notify people about the upcoming voting. I intend to run the ads elsewhere, and pay for them to run. So, getting your feedback would also really help me to know if it's a good use of my depleting funds.
Right after Christmas, on Dec 27th, the Nominations Period will begin for the 5 other major Operating Systems: Android, iPhone, webOS, Blackberry, and -- though there is really not enough development to warrant it -- WindowsPhone 7. So I plan to run ads at places where developers on these OSs congregate in forums like these.
I appreciate any and all feedback. Please keep this thread bumped up so others can see it. Everything about this is Recognition for developer dedication and hard work. Thanks!
/quicksite
Thurs Dec 16 2010, 7pm, Pacific time, California USA: no views
So, as of this writing, is this correct? No one on the entire site has seen either the wider banner or square banner?
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Hmm, wonder if this is due to most users here using ad-block software so they see no ads at all. I know that is common...
Still... NO ONE at all? I'm not sure if this is true, or if those who have seen it just don't see this thread.
Topic 1 of 2:
Santa Wrecked the Devvys Site - Damn Him
SANTA MESSED UP HIS GPS USING SAMSUNG GALAXY, *TOTALLY* MISSED THE NORTH POLE, WENT ON A DRUNKEN BINGE, AND WRECKED OUR SITE, and about 150 others on his path....
So Look for Windows Mobile voting on Friday.
$%$^&# Santa! Why can't he leave working things alone? Rudolph and the reindeer have performed flawlessly all these years, but even Santa falls for the hype and gets the Nexus S --- all messed up: http://devvyawards.com
Topic 2 of 2:
THE DEVVY AWARDS BANNER ADS on this site:
So, did anyone at all, in any country, anywhere on XDA, at any time of day, at any point at all, see a Devvy Awards ad? I ask because I spent about $5000 to get them made and they took an enormous amount of time, and the whole purpose is not commercial -- but rather to alert people to the voting for Devvy Awards.
It's hard to complain since, when I inquired about the price a few months ago, XDA offered to donate the ad runs --- which is absolutely wonderful and generous. And yet, at the end of the day, if they didn't end up running at all, then that killled my entire effort, which was enormous, to make it known throughout the site about the awards, which are a day away from voting for Windows Mobile -- and then on December 31st, Nominations begin for all 5 of the major Touchscreen operating systems OTHER than windows mobile:
ANDROID
iOS
webOS
BLACKBERRY
WINDOWS PHONE 7 (though they really do not merit any awards for 2010; not enough development).
*** I am probably going to add SYMBIAN... it's getting new life via NOKIA, and they have largest market penetration of all. Any thoughts?
THOSE NOMINATIONS WILL ALL HAPPEN AT SAME TIME and in much more sophisticated way that WinMo happened here at XDA site earlier this year. They will be web form based, and specific to each touchscreen OS. We have a social media team that is going to work all the major development forums to make sure developers know about the nominations so they nominate their own works/apps. These nominations will run for 5 weeks, thus, all through month om January 2011.
thanks!
/q
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Hi All,
I'm running a special event around mobile and wireless development in London, UK at the start of April (4th-5th).
Its called "Over the Air" and has a tag line of 48 hours of mobile development. So basically its a chance to spend a weekend learning, experimenting and hacking around with mobile and wireless devices.
I'm already expecting lots of iphone, linux, java, symbian and even adrioid hackers to turn up but whats missing is the XDA/WM community. Hence it would be great if any of you can make it and show off some of the simply stunning things your doing with HTC hardware.
The event is completely free and will take place at Imperial College in Central London, UK. We have discount hotel places for those who are coming from far and already BBC mobile, BBC Backstage, Momo Monday and Vodafone are onboard. We talking to many different companies about running sessions and sponsorship of free data simcards for the 2 days.
So I hope to see some of you there...
If you need any more information or would like to sponsor the event please contact me off list
is it open to anyone?
I know pretty much all there is to know about the devices, but next to nothing about developing, so is it more aimed at developers, or can the normal guys who love their ppc's come along?
Rory
Over the Air
rorydaredkign said:
is it open to anyone?
I know pretty much all there is to know about the devices, but next to nothing about developing, so is it more aimed at developers, or can the normal guys who love their ppc's come along?
Rory
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Short answer: Yes come along
Long answer: So Over the Air is yes aimed more at the developer community because there is also a developer competition on the last day. But we are really open to people who want to learn or want to learn how to take advantage of their mobile phones or check out the latest in wireless devices. Its 2 days back to back including sleep over or over night hacking. So you may just want to come over for the day tutorials and the competition results on the 2nd day.
Since Microsoft obviously don't understand this site purpose then we should do something that they do understand, namely dollars.
By that I mean. Microsoft shares currently trades at 30 USD/share. We are currently 2000 members of XDA. If we contribuate 1.5 USD each. We could buy 100 Microsoft stock, and continue to this over a couple of months. Then there after send someone representing XDA to the stockholders conference, and give MS some bad publicity. And thusly I am more than sure that MS would get of XDAs back.
What do you guys say to that?
/Fred
Euroman28 said:
Since Microsoft obviously don't understand this site purpose then we should do something that they do understand, namely dollars.
By that I mean. Microsoft shares currently trades at 30 USD/share. We are currently 2000 members of XDA. If we contribuate 1.5 USD each. We could buy 100 Microsoft stock, and continue to this over a couple of months. Then there after send someone representing XDA to the stockholders conference, and give MS some bad publicity. And thusly I am more than sure that MS would get of XDAs back.
What do you guys say to that?
/Fred
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Regarding "Microsoft is on our back";
- They only requested us to remove a leaked and UNPUBLISHED build of WM 6.5. They didn't request us to remove all links to ROMs etc, but onlu to the build that hadn't been released yet..
Regarding the members:
Members: 1,924,422, Active Members (those who have posted last month): 259,365
You probably looked at the number of members currently on-line..
IMHO no need to protest against Microsoft, they leave us be as long as we don't release material that they themselves haven't released yet.
For the rest: they leave us messing around with the ROMs.
From my standpoint we have a real decent relationship with Microsoft, and as long as they condone us, we have nothing to complain.
So if they want us to pull a unreleased build once in a while, so be it.
(a higher build-number doesn't imply it is better )
Regards,
EqX
Okay,
But anyway if it ever goes completely sour, then ...... You know my stand on things.
It is a matter of mutual toleration. we tolerate the fact that the OS could be substantially better and spend our money on it anyway. And they tolerate the fact that we make it better, or at least customize it to our individual liking. Here is Microsoft's official view on XDA,
“Taking action against sites such as XDA-Developers isn’t a matter of concern for Microsoft” says Maarten Sonneveld of Microsoft Netherlands against tweakers.net. “What happens there, the modifying of ROMs, is illegal. The intellectual property however is not with us. The ROMs are intellectual property of the producers of the phone or the mobile phone providers if it concerns branded telephones. We simple only deliver the OS.”
And here is HTC's official stance on XDA
“What happens there isn’t allowed” says HTC Benelux-CEO Mark Moons,
“But XDA-Developers is the biggest and most active community of Windows Mobile-developers. We can’t live with ‘em and we can’t live without ‘em.”
It is not only me but many many others who are still surprised how come a thread is not open for Samsung Wave yet in xda-developers. Whilst it's ancient predecessors like Omia etc are present.
It is again not only me but many other are looking for the right forum for samsung wave but at the moment although there are lots of samsung wave forum can't really any worthwhile problems being handled like how xda-developers would have handled proactively with its talented chefs.
Just as a glimpse at the kind of wave this device is creating around the globe: Have a guess how many it sold in its first month? A million, yes. Now this is quite different. Bada is a new operating system. New operating systems don't sell a million in a month. Android did not sell a million in its first month, not even in its first quarter. The only other new smartphone OS that managed to sell a million in its first month was the iPhone in 2007. Now Bada is the next best new OS launch since the iPhone. But most people didn't hear about it. Many don't even know that Bada exists.
Well, much of that reason is that the Wave is a low cost smartphone and is aimed at Emerging World markets. It sold about 280,000 of those Wave phones in China. But that's more Wave phones in one month, than iPhones sold in the whole of second quarter in China - the second largest country for smartphone sales in the world, behind only the USA.
Therefore going by the above I would say if xda-developers opens up a forum for Wave, then I am sure this forum will attract even more users in line with the above strategy.
Please open a forum as I am also owning the phone.
I agree.
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After visiting techblogs of all three of these operating systems I've come to a realization. The majority of them report about 70 percent on their own OS and the remaining 30 percent is dedicated to bashing another OS. Wp7 blogs do it to android, android blogs do it to ios, and ios blogs do it to everyone. While I understand that each OS does things that the other can't, when I go on a tech blog site I like to read news regarding my OS of choice. Earlier surur, the admin of wmpoweruser, posted a blog titled, "Google Korea offices raided due to Android anti-trust concerns." now, what business does this have being on a windows phone site aside from bashing android. I understand that android is an OS many of you love but honestly, when I go to a windows phone site reading about android is not exactly on my to-do list. Its just not for me. This is, of course, the fault of the staff on these blog sites and quite frankly I don't see why they bash for page hits. Every OS can do things others can't, no one is any better than the next for everyone, but unless the site is a mutualistic site like CNET (though they're largely biased) then there's no reason for these types of posts.
Bashing another os? No!?!?!
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Last time I rememer, a mac blog reported about a windows 8 leak. When asked why, one of the guys on IRC replied, "This is because a mac can run windows too". WTF?
Usually, most of the blogs do this to maintain traffic. Probably because a majority of their user fail to generalize between facts or true justification and instead are impartial to their beloved product. They love other products or their rivals being bashed about.
Not that I'm saying that this is the case with everyone, but with most of the people.
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Last time I rememer, a mac blog reported about a windows 8 leak. When asked why, one of the guys on IRC replied, "This is because a mac can run windows too". WTF?
Usually, most of the blogs do this to maintain traffic. Probably because a majority of their user fail to generalize between facts or true justification and instead are impartial to their beloved product. They love other products or their rivals being bashed about.
Not that I'm saying that this is the case with everyone, but with most of the people.
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Agreed, but it comes off as petty. I won't be visiting wmpoweruser anymore because despite their often informative articles, their delving into the dark side of the android world makes them look childish.
This is one of the most stupid thincks in the Internet but also in the real world.
Its not only when it comes to the os but also to brand model and many other products.
People want to be sure that the things they've paid much money are the best and want to persude other people with this opinion.
But it's realy annoying
If you're bashing another os, you can't very well focus on own ks nkw can you?
Don't worry. They are compensating for their lack of something particular, if you catch my drift.
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Try Pocketnow.com. Multi-platform, smartphone site with unbiased reporting.
positive competition is a good thing to customers and users, since it means different OS will develop more new features to attract users to join them.
Hi folks.
We are organising a little Android get together in the UK in March of next year. The event is aimed squarely at Android users, and we 'think' it's the only event of it's kind in the UK. It won't be anywhere near as big and fantastic as the Big Android BBQ state side, but we hope it will at least be as much fun.
We have folk coming from the Three UK media team, Tom Mleko the big cheese from Hyperbees, Tha Phlash the incredible icon designer is coming over from Canada, and HTC have stated they will get involved in some form.
The event will take place on Saturday 9th of March at the MadLab in Manchester running from mid-day to 5-6 O'clock with some snacks and drinks. Although we will be having speakers, and possibly workshop/Q & A sessions, the main focus is getting to know the wider Android community. A large number of Android blogging sites have all given their supprt, as have Clove Technology. With a little luck we will have some goodies to give away on the day as well.
If you are interested you can find out more on the website http://www.marchofthedroids.co.uk/, or comment here and I will try and answer any questions you might have.
Even better is if you can offer support/sponsorship in way as every little help is greatly appreciated.
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Hi folks.
We are organising a little Android get together in the UK in March of next year. The event is aimed squarely at Android users, and we 'think' it's the only event of it's kind in the UK. It won't be anywhere near as big and fantastic as the Big Android BBQ state side, but we hope it will at least be as much fun.
We have folk coming from the Three UK media team, Tom Mleko the big cheese from Hyperbees, Tha Phlash the incredible icon designer is coming over from Canada, and HTC have stated they will get involved in some form.
The event will take place on Saturday 9th of March at the MadLab in Manchester running from mid-day to 5-6 O'clock with some snacks and drinks. Although we will be having speakers, and possibly workshop/Q & A sessions, the main focus is getting to know the wider Android community. A large number of Android blogging sites have all given their supprt, as have Clove Technology. With a little luck we will have some goodies to give away on the day as well.
If you are interested you can find out more on the website http://www.marchofthedroids.co.uk/, or comment here and I will try and answer any questions you might have.
Even better is if you can offer support/sponsorship in way as every little help is greatly appreciated.
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I would possible be interested in running a workshop/talk/Q&A on my projects, and I work for a couple of company's that could be interested in having me show case there software, all open source of cause
Maybe hit me up with a PM if its the kind of thing you are looking for
Nice! I've no doubt it'll be a great success, wish I could be there. Good luck man!
Im interested in going i have looked at the website and it looks good, but i was wondering if you guys will be having an entrance fee ect? and will we need to book in advance?