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why we can't root rogers andoirds?? YES U CAN!!!

Originally Posted by skittleguy View Post
So as a little update, thanks to the hard work of Amon_RA, the Rogers Magic has been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530527
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i spoke to haykuro earlier and asked about the issues keeping us from getting root on rogers devices. he told me that the boot.img tells the bootloader to boot from a specific memory offset. this is in lines 166 - 173
Code:
166 hdr.kernel_addr = 0x10008000;
167 hdr.ramdisk_addr = 0x11000000;
168 if(saddr) {
169 hdr.second_addr = 0x00300000;
170 } else {
171 hdr.second_addr = 0x10F00000;
172 }
173 hdr.tags_addr = 0x10000100;
now the problem is that the radio on the rogers devices (3.22.20.17) changes the offsets and so we need to figure them out so that a boot.img can be created that will work with our radio.
don't forget if you like what he is doing for us to donate some nesquick

donated and subscribed

Won't the Daldroid ROM work?

SpEnTBoY said:
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Ditto ...

here is a gallery of the t-mobile and rogers versions of the htc dream circuit board.
the one with the blue dot is the rogers one.
http://img26.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=1000387n.jpg
i don't know if it has anything to do, but the memory chip (flash/ram) is different.

SpEnTBoY said:
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done, done and done.

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aggtrfrad said:
here is a gallery of the t-mobile and rogers versions of the htc dream circuit board.
the one with the blue dot is the rogers one.
http://img26.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=1000387n.jpg
i don't know if it has anything to do, but the memory chip (flash/ram) is different.
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And here I thought I voided warranties....hehe

HTC Dream Rooting
I also donated and registered here.
I do hope this effort succeeds; it would be my very first cell phone that I can tweak to my heart's content.
My biggest requirement is tethering, but of course there are others. I also hear that tethering might be possible without even rooting, using PDANet from June Fabrics.
I will stay tuned,
G-man

G-man_Man said:
I also donated and registered here.
I do hope this effort succeeds; it would be my very first cell phone that I can tweak to my heart's content.
My biggest requirement is tethering, but of course there are others. I also hear that tethering might be possible without even rooting, using PDANet from June Fabrics.
I will stay tuned,
G-man
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PDANet looks like a decent idea (although I've read people have had state issues and client resets). I just want autonomy over my device if possible AND still have it work on my network lol ... I also don't run Windows anywhere except on one of my 200+ work machines (I'm a Midrange guy) so I need tethering to work on Linux and MacOSX ... plus then I can update My damn Wiki with some different content

aggtrfrad said:
here is a gallery of the t-mobile and rogers versions of the htc dream circuit board.
the one with the blue dot is the rogers one.
http://img26.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=1000387n.jpg
i don't know if it has anything to do, but the memory chip (flash/ram) is different.
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That shouldn't make much of a difference. Is there any other chips that are different? I would be more interested in the chips that control the radio frequencies. I'm starting to believe that these are firmware controlled by a variable frequency generator.
I can imagine that this is possible because it personnally would make no sense to create a different phone for every market. Just use a different firmware to change the phone frequency.
UPDATE - Nevermind. After looking closer the main Qualcomm chip is also different. This probably controls the frequency.

Rebellion_CA said:
That shouldn't make much of a difference. Is there any other chips that are different? I would be more interested in the chips that control the radio frequencies. I'm starting to believe that these are firmware controlled by a variable frequency generator.
I can imagine that this is possible because it personnally would make no sense to create a different phone for every market. Just use a different firmware to change the phone frequency.
UPDATE - Nevermind. After looking closer the main Qualcomm chip is also different. This probably controls the frequency.
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once again it has to do with the amplifiers' frequency.
look at this pic: http://i.cmpnet.com/eetimes/news/online/2008/10/igoogle_2.jpg
then look at my pics and compare the two amplifiers. different model. look up the model numbers, different frequencies. if you take a closer look you will see the antenna switch chip is also for different frequencies, plus there are way too many differences on the radio board (resistors/capacitors)
also take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=525060

Interestingly, that Qualcomm RTR6285 transceiver looks like it probably CAN do the full range of 3G frequencies, see the datasheet at: http://www.datasheetpro.com/268132_download_RTR6285_datasheet.html
What I have been wondering for a few days is what would happen if someone took the RADIO rom from a Canadian Rogers Dream and used it to flash their T-Mobile G1 - would that unlock the right frequencies in the phone? After having seen the datasheet, and notwithstanding the slight differences in transceiver numbers, I can't see why not.

well i promise to try with my old t-mobile G1, when we get the radio...
I have nothing to do with it anyways

hah2110 said:
Won't the Daldroid ROM work?
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I'm not sure if it can be done with the Dream, but I was able to use Daldroid's Magic rom and his "daldroid-recovery.img" to boot and flash with the native .0009 spl on my Rogers Magic...

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any 1 managed to update rogers yet?
i tried and everytime it froze at thr rogers screen.....

skittleguy said:
I'm not sure if it can be done with the Dream, but I was able to use Daldroid's Magic rom and his "daldroid-recovery.img" to boot and flash with the native .0009 spl on my Rogers Magic...
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Can you post some step-by-step instructions for this? Thanks a bunch!

parrot5 said:
Can you post some step-by-step instructions for this? Thanks a bunch!
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Outlined here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3948652&postcount=220
For this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523680

skittleguy said:
Outlined here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3948652&postcount=220
For this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523680
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Thanks skittleguy. I am playing with it right now. I thought we are not supposed to be able to back the ROM up without root? But my device says "Backup complete!"!!!!! Did you see the same thing and was it a complete backup for you?
EDIT: the backup folder contains boot.img, cache.img, data.img, misc.img, nandroid.md5, recovery.img, system.img
Total about 198MB
If this is a complete backup, I don't see any reason to prevent me from playing with it!

So as a little update, thanks to the hard work of Amon_RA (and Haykuro mostly, please don't kill me), the Rogers Magic has been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530527

G-man_Man said:
I also donated and registered here.
I do hope this effort succeeds; it would be my very first cell phone that I can tweak to my heart's content.
My biggest requirement is tethering, but of course there are others. I also hear that tethering might be possible without even rooting, using PDANet from June Fabrics.
I will stay tuned,
G-man
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i use pdanet on my dream with no errors....apparently you just turn off ur wifi on ur laptop and that is supposed to help in keeping it from disconnecting...i tried that, and it seems to work. the only problem now is that it is saying pdanet is expiring...so i think i need to find a solution for that

[Q] D2G on AT&T.... I'm confused

I'm confused as heck. I have been looking around for an hour and can't find an answer. Will the D2G work with AT&T in the US?

It wont work on any US simcard/carrier other than verizon as carriers use a specific network ID which has been blocked on the droid 2 global (att, tmobile, etc.) However, I've seen people post that theres a workaround to this but there's a price for that and you've also got to send them your phone I believe.
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using XDA App

XtriFe said:
It wont work on any US simcard/carrier other than verizon as carriers use a specific network ID which has been blocked on the droid 2 global (att, tmobile, etc.) However, I've seen people post that theres a workaround to this but there's a price for that and you've also got to send them your phone I believe.
Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using XDA App
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It's a hardware modification if I'm not mistaken which is why you have to send the phone to them.

Asphyx said:
It's a hardware modification if I'm not mistaken which is why you have to send the phone to them.
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It is a software only mod.

It is definitely NOT a hardware modification. The reason we need the phone is because it involves flashing a special file to the radio image.

cellzealot said:
It is definitely NOT a hardware modification. The reason we need the phone is because it involves flashing a special file to the radio image.
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So if that's the case, why can't someone make a downloadable version?

cellzealot said:
It is definitely NOT a hardware modification. The reason we need the phone is because it involves flashing a special file to the radio image.
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we could access this information in a long time or short time?
what you think about it?

The solution is for sale, that is why we haven't released it publicly.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/android-hacks/6180-teamblackhat-droidbandunlock-proposal.html
There is a link to a thread on MDW where this can be discussed without breaking the rules here on XDA, thanks.

Why Does A Lower Spec HTC One S Outclass My SGS3 on Internet?

I ask this here as I've already asked on the Samsung Galaxy S3 forum with no answers. I'm guessing there are more teccy types here! Okay, getting p*issed now. I have a brand new Samsung Galaxy S3 and my friend's HTC One S is FAR faster on the internet than my handset. Both handsets came from 3UK (network locked & branded) on the same plan (The One Plan). The tests were done with the same sim so it's not the sim card-definitely the handset. Also, of course, they were done in the exact same location at the same time.
My previous SGS2 compared like my current handsset with his HTC but I assumed that was because the HTC had more up to date components and getting the all new SGS3 would solve. Obviously not!!!
I have looked at the settings and I can't see anything I can change. Can any of the wizards here shed some light?

how did u use the same sim at the same time?

No1ustad said:
how did u use the same sim at the same time?
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Lol....
Look, dude. Your browser's speed is a combination of three things.
1) Hardware - including processor, memory and radio/modem.
2) ISP - This speaks for itself
3) Software - Poorly written software will load and display a page slowly. Herein lies your answer, I'm guessing.
Root and flash away. That's how you fix that.
I own neither handset, but basic logic leads me to this conclusion. That said, I may be wrong.
Sent from my Glacier using XDA

bigstu23 said:
I ask this here as I've already asked on the Samsung Galaxy S3 forum with no answers. I'm guessing there are more teccy types here! Okay, getting p*issed now. I have a brand new Samsung Galaxy S3 and my friend's HTC One S is FAR faster on the internet than my handset. Both handsets came from 3UK (network locked & branded) on the same plan (The One Plan). The tests were done with the same sim so it's not the sim card-definitely the handset. Also, of course, they were done in the exact same location at the same time.
My previous SGS2 compared like my current handsset with his HTC but I assumed that was because the HTC had more up to date components and getting the all new SGS3 would solve. Obviously not!!!
I have looked at the settings and I can't see anything I can change. Can any of the wizards here shed some light?
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How much faster? Seconds? Minutes?
I would test accessing at same place, same time on the same Wifi and using same browser to get a baseline. Testing on mobile signal is just too unpredictable.
Cheers

palmy999 said:
How much faster? Seconds? Minutes?
I would test accessing at same place, same time on the same Wifi and using same browser to get a baseline. Testing on mobile signal is just too unpredictable.
Cheers
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estallings15 said:
Lol....
Look, dude. Your browser's speed is a combination of three things.
1) Hardware - including processor, memory and radio/modem.
2) ISP - This speaks for itself
3) Software - Poorly written software will load and display a page slowly. Herein lies your answer, I'm guessing.
Root and flash away. That's how you fix that.
I own neither handset, but basic logic leads me to this conclusion. That said, I may be wrong.
Sent from my Glacier using XDA
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Both of these people mention key points about your data speed tests. Testing two different devices that are performing the same task is about all those devices have in common. You need some intersecting properties between the two devices. Yes, their os may be the same but are they even running the same version? They are different makes, HTC vs. Samsung, using different browsers plus more.
You can test over and over to see which comes out on top. But you won't know why until you find out what the differences and similarities are between the two devices to see why you're getting the results you've been getting. Hope this helps.
-Kris
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[Q] How do I port a Modem/ radio?

Hey guys I got a I727 but I live in Brazil.
I am having a lot of issues with the connectivity here.
I tried a lot of combos ( roms / kernels / radios / SIM cards) and it still acting randomly. Sometimes it works for days and it makes me believe that I got it fixed, sometimes for hours on even less than that. I've trying almost everything.
I know we can use radios from t989 and blaze's and note but all I got here in the forum was from Canadian or American devices.
So my next attempt is to try to port a radio optimized for my country from a device that is similar to the i727.
Does anyone have an idea of how to port radios? I want to use one optimized to use my country's frequencies.
Thanks in advance guys.
And please take easy on me, I m just a newbie

No one ever tweaked radio to date but Sammy!!! sad but true lol

mahanddeem said:
No one ever tweaked radio to date but Sammy!!! sad but true lol
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Sorry, but whos Sammy, and also if none tweaked a radio how do we are able to use blazers and t989 and notes? PS: ( Iknow t989 are twin of ours i727, but i believe the modem hardware is a bit different since they dont have LTE) .

Sammy = Samsung.... Its a common nickname
Some SR users USE blaze or T989 radios as is (so they can use their phones on T mobile) ... Those are never tweaked radios and nobody can

mahanddeem said:
Sammy = Samsung.... Its a common nickname
Some SR users USE blaze or T989 radios as is (so they can use their phones on T mobile) ... Those are never tweaked radios and nobody can
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I use bell I757m skyrocket HD

tjsooley said:
I use bell I757m skyrocket HD
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How did you know that this modem was compatible with your device? Just try and error?
Is it possible to brick my device if I give a try in other devices modems?

filipeangelo said:
How did you know that this modem was compatible with your device? Just try and error?
Is it possible to brick my device if I give a try in other devices modems?
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Never mess up with things like radio...you might easily end up bricking your phone or messing the IMEI number which is at least a pain in the ass to fix...you can just use (flash) things that are commonly known to work with your skyrocket (learn here)..And talking about t989 radio in a skyrocket , never think it works right..expect ton of problems in connectivity.. But at least you can run t mobile on SR (even though very buggy) !

filipeangelo said:
How did you know that this modem was compatible with your device? Just try and error?
Is it possible to brick my device if I give a try in other devices modems?
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Looked up the radio chipset and found it to be the same
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

tjsooley said:
Looked up the radio chipset and found it to be the same
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
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The chipset isn't the mainboard "brain"? If I do an analogy with PC, main boards controls everything and a modem is just a PCI card controlled by the motherboard. If so, that does not mean that my radio is actually the same but that the brain is. Maybe the way that the modem communicate with the motherboard is standard?
If so I will look up to some Sam modem for a phone from here that got the Qualcomm MSM8260 Snapdragon chipset, and then I will try to flash it.
Im aware that Sony got some models here, but I not as much crazy to flash their modems

The modem/radio chipset not soc chipset
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

tjsooley said:
The modem/radio chipset not soc chipset
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
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Where do I find this info?For the i727 and other devices.
Thx

mahanddeem said:
OK it looks like you're an as*ho** who doesn't like to listen... Good luck bricking (q&a section people don't like these days topics like: flashed LG stuffs and now my SR never turns on)...
Some people you waist time helping them !!!
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Im aware of the risks of bricking it. If it bricks it doesnt matter to me, thats already a useless device, since I cant receive calls or send message properly and Im not a fan of cell games.
I have flashed radios/roms/kernels/boots thousand of times for the SR and many other devices.
About the Q&A dont worry i wont post nothing like that.
I am just looking for info from ppl that had the same idea that i did ( flash other devices radios) to minimize my bricking risk. Again I dont care abou brick it!!!

filipeangelo said:
Im aware of the risks of bricking it. If it bricks it doesnt matter to me, thats already a useless device, since I cant receive calls or send message properly and Im not a fan of cell games.
I have flashed radios/roms/kernels/boots thousand of times for the SR and many other devices.
About the Q&A dont worry i wont post nothing like that.
I am just looking for info from ppl that had the same idea that i did ( flash other devices radios) to minimize my bricking risk. Again I dont care abou brick it!!!
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You did nothing wrong. The other guy was just rude, and I have already reported him for the rude and hurtful post.
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filipeangelo said:
Where do I find this info?For the i727 and other devices.
Thx
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Alot of searching on google and this forum. I would not recommend anyone to try what i did. I also have ~15 years experience as a IT Professional with computers, linux, Security & Mobile devices. It was also in part a educated guess. The imei issues the other guy was talking about can happen if your not carefull and I also had to see if the cwm files had ril or not (They dont). Others are testing this modem/radio so Just wate.

tjsooley said:
You did nothing wrong. The other guy was just rude, and I have already reported him for the rude and hurtful post.
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Alot of searching on google and this forum. I would not recommend anyone to try what i did. I also have ~15 years experience as a IT Professional with computers, linux, Security & Mobile devices. It was also in part a educated guess. The imei issues the other guy was talking about can happen if your not carefull and I also had to see if the cwm files had ril or not (They dont). Others are testing this modem/radio so Just wate.
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Thx for your kind answer man. I guess i got no lucky to find technical info regard the modems chipset here.
Ill have to dig deeper on google.
Thx anyway

You do realize that every single thing done on this entire website incurs a risk of bricking, right? It's his own responsibility to know that, not your responsibility to shove it up his butt. He's trying to figure something out to make his device better for him, which it sounds like he knows the risks of, and which is also the whole point of this website. If you have no useful advice to offer, don't talk.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

T-mobile HD Audio Codec [SOLVED]

Hello all!
As you may know. T-mobile is the first carrier offering support for HD audio and I'm stoked. :laugh: Only within certain high end phones though.
Question is can we get HD audio on the skyrocket since it can run on T-mobile 4G and only a codec is necessary? Any other limitations?
***Also seems an audio codec AMR-WB is necessary. anyway to get around that codec? could a software update do it? an awesome XDA app maybe?
Here's my source (http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/04/how-hd-voice-works-to-make-your-calls-clearer/)
amongst many other articles on the web.
Thanks in advance! All well thought input is appreciated and expected
EDIT! [POTENTIAL SOLUTION]
I've learned that the app "Pimp My ROM" allows you to enable or disable AMR-WB! To confirm this working I need someone to test it, post your results!. Here's what you have to do::
1. Be unlocked and rooted (of course)
2. Insert a working tmobile Sim.
3. NETWORK REQUIREMENT Have to have service above **edge/2G!! you could try anyway lol
** Means you need 3G service or faster.
4. Install, Pimp My ROM and enable AMR-WB.
4. Make a call to someone who you know has a phone which is HD audio capable, they must meet the same network requirements.
For reference this is what HD audio sounds like http://www.dialogic.com/en/solutions/mobile-vas/hd-voice.aspx
One is regular the other is HD sound.
Hit Thanks if this works or at least helps!
EDIT #2
I have concluded from reviewing skyrocket spec sheets and reading up on audio codecs that the skyrocket does not have the proper audio codec built in which I learned is a requirement.
So disregard this very very hopeful thread lol I will consider this solved :/

Bump, anyone! lol

drago10029 said:
Bump, anyone! lol
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Unlikely unless it's done fully in software and cm adds it. I would keep a eye on the SGH-T989 forum as that's our T-Mobile sister phone.

lart2150 said:
Unlikely unless it's done fully in software and cm adds it. I would keep a eye on the SGH-T989 forum as that's our T-Mobile sister phone.
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Good point thanks!

I poked around a little more btw what you want is AMR-WB. I've seen a few posts that it can be enabled on the S2 kindof sortof by adding ro.ril.enable.amr.wideband=1 in the build.prop. This might be a case where you'll need to play with radio's and ril binary files. it also sounds like there's not a good way to tell if wideband is in use :/.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2193922
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371123

lart2150 said:
I poked around a little more btw what you want is AMR-WB. I've seen a few posts that it can be enabled on the S2 kindof sortof by adding ro.ril.enable.amr.wideband=1 in the build.prop. This might be a case where you'll need to play with radio's and ril binary files. it also sounds like there's not a good way to tell if wideband is in use :/.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2193922
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371123
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Thanks a lot man! and also for not flaming. I think I'm bad at this forum thing :/ I could have easily searched but it never occurred to me that others might be working on this...smh.

Also found this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575708
Not our phone but it talks about trying different radios and ril binaries like you said. The link above mentions AMR-WR being enabled and/or allowing the setting to be changed by certain ROMs/Radios.
I'm gonna get a little funky and mess with different combos of our Skyrocket stuff and the Hercules Stuff. This enigma will be no more! Will report back in days/weeks/months however long until I solved.

drago10029 said:
Also found this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575708
Not our phone but it talks about trying different radios and ril binaries like you said. The link above mentions AMR-WR being enabled and/or allowing the setting to be changed by certain ROMs/Radios.
I'm gonna get a little funky and mess with different combos of our Skyrocket stuff and the Hercules Stuff. This enigma will be no more! Will report back in days/weeks/months however long until I solved.
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Please do :good: